"It doesn't matter *WHY* Odumbo created the list..

The only relevant point is that President Trump is working from the list created by Odumbo.."

SO, if I made a list: flour, water, sugar, and used it to bake a cake...

It would NOT matter if you then came along and used the same list I had created: flour, water, sugar to try to use as a fuel in the gas tank of your car???

REALLY? That's AMAZING!!!

SO, starting from DIFFERENT premises for DIFFERENT purposes makes NO difference as long as the list is the same.

And the fact that you call Hillary Clinton a "competent professional" shows how far off the reservation you have gone..

Name ONE relevant accomplishment that Hillary EVER had that would qualify her as a "competent professional"??

Because I could point to a PLETHORA of failures that TOTALLY negates the claim that Hillary is a "competent professional"...

And I would be willing to wager that there are at least FIVE Weigantians here who would agree with me.. :D

And, apparently, so were tens of millions of Odumbo voters..

You see, that's just one FACT that totally decimates your ENTIRE argument...

This narrative is dishonest. The Obama administration did not single out those seven countries because they were the greatest sources of terrorist danger in the world.

It doesn't matter *WHY* Odumbo created the list..

The only relevant point is that President Trump is working from the list created by Odumbo..

And, your source for this is HuffPoop!!???

Would you accept a source from BRIETBART as "proof" of anything??

Of course you wouldn't... So, why do you expect me to accept HuffPoop???

Yea.. And President Odumbo was born in Kenya... :D

Oh...

"WELCOME TO THE PARTY, PAL!!!"
-John McClane, DIE HARD

:D

:-)

Actually, see 18 months ago for reference..

President Trump's position on the pause had "evolved"...

What?? Aren't people with '-R's after their names allowed to "evolve"?? :D

And, apparently, there is no one like that around here because these deplorable attacks against Trump supporters are not condemned..

Because I want more from my POTUS than just this one issue...

. Created from FORMER President Obama's muslim ban list..


This narrative is dishonest. The Obama administration did not single out those seven countries because they were the greatest sources of terrorist danger in the world. Rather, it selected those nations because they were the most dangerous nations in the visa waiver program. The Obama order simply removed those nations from the visa waiver program, a program that gives preferential entry treatment to fewer than 40 countries across the globe, thus placing those seven nations on equal footing with most of the rest of the world.

After all, it was Saudi Arabia that gave us Osama bin Laden and fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers. The other four 9/11 hijackers, by the way, all came from three other countries not included in Trump’s ban, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Lebanon. And the man that the 9/11 Commission identified as “the principal architect of the 9/11 attacks,” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, is from Pakistan, another country omitted from the Trump executive order. Funny, isn’t it, that Trump’s executive order, which repeatedly invokes avoiding another 9/11 as its goal, would not have stopped any of the people who actually planned and executed the 9/11 attack.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-dishonesty-of-trumps-travel-ban_us_5891285de4b0522c7d3dfa54?t9dlnt24asj2botj4i&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

It isn't fair - the media are undercutting 45 by using this terrible word.

Just to make sure you understand 45's ban (dammit! sorry Sean) on their word "ban", we have it clearly laid out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpDDtyu-RzM

Sorry to burst your bubble sunshine, but Bryan Dean Wright is a DINO, thrown up whenever the right needs a 'concerned Democrat' to make its wingnut policies sound more palatable to the masses. He writes and comments for such liberal sites as Fox, RealClearPolitics, and WorldNetDaily.

I mean, who is more dangerous to America - DeVos and her plan to destroy American Public Education or a kid who needs it?

Gotta write today's column, but had to answer one thing. "Muslim ban" is what Trump called it, when he introduced the idea. I'm just following his lead. See: the entire presidential campaign, for reference.

:-)

-CW

Love trumps hate only when thoughtful and well-informed citizens of goodwill make it so.

So Hillary was going to continue Obama's policies. 45 insulted everybody for 18 months. Why would you choose a serial liar and obnoxious human over a competent professional if they are just doing the same thing?

In short, we’re taking a new look at an old question: What kind of immigrants does America want?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/31/im-democrat-but-theres-something-great-about-trumps-travel-ban.html

Democrats who actually THINK about things and don't kneejerk hysterically react....

Amazing.. The DO exist.. :D

Yea, you would think so...

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Trump+supporters+attacked..&tbm=nws

And yet, the facts say otherwise...

And Carter and Reagan and Roosevelt (Teddy and Frankie) and Buchanan....

Glad to see you finally admit that...

Then why are you so gung-ho on 45 but down on Obama - hypocrisy?

I was never down on Odumbo when he actually had the best interests of the country at heart..

Like when he was kicking ass on terrorists with drones and banning refugees from terrorist countries like Iraq....

So, yea... I cheered Obama on those points..

The funny thing was, ya'all did too...

But you condemn President Trump for the same actions that Odumbo did..

THAT is hypocrisy...

Are you ready to concede it??

No, of course not.. Ya'all are *NEVER* wrong.... :^/

He is also not a Muslim.

There is a silver lining here ... an opportunity for all of us to show our care and support for and solidarity with the Muslim community and stand against islamophobia.

Love trumps hate.

So 45 isn't doing anything new - he is just replicating Obama?

Then why are you so gung-ho on 45 but down on Obama - hypocrisy?

"How is what happened at a mosque in Quebec related to Trump's Muslim travel ban

It shows the danger of what CAN happen with unfettered and un-vetted refugees from terrorist dominated countries..."

EXCEPT: Authorities in Canada have charged Alexandre Bissonnette, a French-Canadian university student known for his far-right views, over a shooting rampage on a Quebec City mosque that killed six people.

SO, he was NOT an immigrant but a home grown Canadian citizen. Just like the American terrorists have been.

Oh that ship has sailed.. :D

Why wait for anyone else to learn a valuable lesson?

Apparently, I just DID learn it..

Now, we'll see if anyone else follows suit..

For example, conceding the hypocrisy of condemning President Trump for actions that President Obama had done....

We'll see....

Why wait for anyone else to learn a valuable lesson?

Let this be a lesson ...

I'll learn it if everyone else does.. :D

Fine.

But, an objective observer and critical consumer of the news would not have made that mistake.

Let this be a lesson ...

My apologies if I offended anyways...

President Trump’s “extreme vetting” proposals were thoroughly and exhaustively debated in the election, an election which he won handily. Moreover, his proposals were roundly smeared in the most negative terms as some kind of “Muslim ban” even before the election.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/30/people-need-to-get-over-the-so-called-muslim-ban/

Let me lay this out again so there can be NO DOUBT...

President Trump’s “extreme vetting” proposals were thoroughly and exhaustively debated in the election, an election which he won handily.

Basically, the Left Wingery is in major melt-down hysterics because President Trump actually kept a campaign promise!!

"Oh my fucking god, what a nightmare!!!"
-Marissa Tomeii, MY COUSIN VINNY

This is a nothing-burger people.. Not even any smoke, let alone a fire...

You have 8 years of President Trump....

Pace yerselves... Yer gonna vapor-lock..

Prove it..

The best bit - it was a journalist from the Washington Post that did the research.

Ahh.. Fake news....

WaPoop... 'nuff said...

This is solely, completely and utterly about one thing and one thing only..

Attacking President Trump in an attempt to de-legitimize him..

The FACTS support no other logical or rational conclusion...

So, exactly what "hot seat" are you referring to???

Yup - 45 thought so too. Turns out if you put a rank amateur on the NSC there is an obscure law that the clown requires Senate confirmation.

The best bit - it was a journalist from the Washington Post that did the research.

President Trump's actions are fully in keeping with MANY president's actions before him, including Odumbos... FACT

President Trump's actions are BASED on a country list from President Odumbo's administration... FACT

Ya'all have been played... And played BIG TIME!!! :D

This is a nothing-burger... :D

No, I just get you two confused.. You seem to parrot each other....

It's YOUR opinion that President Trump "capriciously" upended anything....

It's a total and complete Left Winger opinion unsupported by facts..

. As I pointed out at [62], the vetting process was working just fine.

Obama officials disagree... SecState John Kerry said that the Obama administration had planned to update to "SUPER VETTING an extroadinary level of vetting"

Hmmmm Sounds like EXACTLY what President Trump is doing..

So, you are wrong again.. Not that I expect you will admit it...

You're asking me? You must be afraid of Neil. :)

I don't blame you.

Try: President Trump capriciously upending established immigration protocols to appease his rabid racist base just to score cheap political points is against the country's best interests. As I pointed out at [62], the vetting process was working just fine. Only Bannon and other deplorables thought differently, because it (gasp!) allowed a few Muslims into the country, none of whom apparently pose any terrorist threat at all.

Neilm [71]: it will be interesting indeed to see Bannon in the hotseat.

You DO realize that Bannon doesn't have to be confirmed, right???

So, exactly what "hot seat" are you referring to???

I don't need to stand on that leg. I was all in favor of using ordnance to do what Americans would have otherwise certainly been killed trying to do.

OK.. So you fully support Odumbo killing all those hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands of innocent people???

OK, I am glad I got that on record...

What a real leader doesn't do is act against the country's interests unnecessarily, as is the case in the present instance.

So, Odumbo creating millions and millions of fresh new terrorists IS "in the country's best interests", but President Trump pausing immigration to make sure we have FULL vetting processes is AGAINST the country's best interest..

I have to say.. That's pretty... whacked thinking there, buddy... :D

As usual, you try and mis-direct to avoid responsibility..

I never objected to Odumbo's actions.. I whole-heartedly supported the drone strikes..

The point has ALWAYS been and ALWAYS will be ya'all hypocrisy in ONLY holding those with a '-R' after their names accountable...

Okay. When the facts don't support my claims (whatever), I will be happy to concede the point.

Until then, I'll just keep pointing out instances where the facts don't support your claims.

That's fair.

THAT IS A FACT.

Yes, you are correct Liz.. I did not have the updated information so I was wrong..

About Quebec City being an islamic terrorist attack...

But the overall point is still valid and has tons of supporting evidence in the form of Berlin, Orlando, San Bernardino, Nice, Charlie Hedbo, and Brussels...

But I was in error about Quebec City..

Balthasar, you see?? THAT's how it's done.. When the facts don't support your claim, you concede the point and admit you were wrong..

But, it's becoming readily apparent that there are very few here who can do the same... Admit when they are wrong...

I don't need to stand on that leg. I was all in favor of using ordnance to do what Americans would have otherwise certainly been killed trying to do. My father was an artillery officer after all, and understood the value of striking at the enemy from a distance.

Or as CIA director John Brennan put it:

“[He and Obama] have similar views. One of them is that sometimes you have to take a life to save even more lives. We have a similar view of just-war theory. The president requires near-certainty of no collateral damage. But if he believes it is necessary to act, he doesn’t hesitate.”

That's what a real decisive leader does: act when necessary.

What a real leader doesn't do is act against the country's interests unnecessarily, as is the case in the present instance.

All you have is "boo hoo, Obama did it too". Most of the time this is only in your own head. But since you object to Obama, why aren't you objecting to 45?

Bannon has few friends, but a LOT of enemies in the Senate, on both sides. The 'R's will probably roll over but we can expect some fun during the hearings.

And one that was IGNORED amongst ya'all...

So, as I said, you have NO MORAL leg to stand on...

Just as Odumbo and HIS family was..

But, you never said anything THEN, did you??

Of course not.. Because Odumbo has a -D after his name...

Did YOU say anything against it???

No, you did not.. So, you don't have a leg to stand on..

Trump has only been in office for a few days. Give him a minute, and, sadly, he'll have plenty of blood on his hands.

But he hasn't...

Odumbo has killed HUNDREDS/THOUSANDS/TENS OF THOUSANDS more innocent civilians that President Trump has..

Do you condemn Odumbo??

No, you don't..

And Why??? Because Odumbo has a '-D' after his name..

So, please.. Spare me yer tears about creating terrorists..

By YOUR standards, Odumbo has created MILLIONS of more terrorists than President Trump has...

These are the facts.... At least according to you...

Yes - and 45 and his family are protected and not in the line of fire.

If the boys were in the military and on the front line I'd give the coward some credit - but it isn't him or his: it is us; and my friends' kid who is just graduated from West Point; and my sons' friends in the Marines and the Army.

ISIS are playing 45 like a puppet on a string - he is delivering the U.S. into their hands by showing them that the U.S. will go completely overboard. They can trigger the war of civilizations they want if they can bloody his nose - a Paris style attack in Dallas, a car bomb at his hotels, etc.

ISIS have been very clear from the start what they want - they want a battle predicted in their perverted interpretation of their holy books that will usher in the second coming of their messiah who will sweep away their enemies "Raiders of the Lost Ark" style. You can read about it here:

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/76735/isis-fighting-end-days-battle-dabiq-bring-muslim-messiah/#i8hwUM1C2hS9PuqV.97

45 is just the fool they needed - Obama was too smart to play their rules.

I'll accept that as informed capitulation.

The fact is NONE of you said ANYTHING then about appeasing terrorists and giving in to terrorist demands and not fighting back..

I'm sure you meant something else entirely and just mixed up your syntax. I can't make heads or tails of it.

If "fighting back" against terrorists simply makes MORE terrorists, then HOW MANY terrorists has YOUR messiah, Odumbo, created?

Good question, one that I'm sure was much discussed in the White House prior to action.

The difference is that Obama's actions were carefully considered, and discussed in the highest offices of the Defense and State departments before being implemented. Trump's action, by comparison, completely blind-sided his own people; it still seems less of a policy decision and more like an overnight impulse-control problem.

Give me a break. They made a whole MOVIE about it. The professional left can't stop talking about it: ask Al if the left had nothing to say about drone strikes.

Trump has only been in office for a few days. Give him a minute, and, sadly, he'll have plenty of blood on his hands.

The exact number is irrelevant, as you well know..

The fact is NONE of you said ANYTHING then about appeasing terrorists and giving in to terrorist demands and not fighting back..

If "fighting back" against terrorists simply makes MORE terrorists, then HOW MANY terrorists has YOUR messiah, Odumbo, created???

You see how blatant your hypocrisy is???

To you, it's only when a REPUBLICAN President fights back that it creates new terrorists..

A President with a '-D' after his name can fight back and kill hundreds/thousands/tens of thousands innocent people and won't create a SINGLE terrorist!!!

Do you SMELL the utter bullshit you are shoveling???

THAT IS A FACT.

DEAL WITH IT!

And, leave me alone ...

Different circumstances, different goals, different methods, different reaction. Different.

The result, by the way, was a strengthening of the 'vetting' process, which made us safer, and allowed the temporary ban of Iraqi refugees to be lifted. To this date, despite numerous warnings to the contrary by GOP lawmakers, no Iraqi refugee has committed a terrorist act in the US. Digest that.

And, then report back here.

I have... And did... It's not my job to make your arguments for you...

If you have anything to counter, be my guest..

Until such time, my position stands..

Your "proof" is a Left Wingery rag website???

Which basically is parroting the Odumbo's Party line..

But, hay.. Let's go with your numbers...

How many innocent civilians has President Trump killed??

NONE....

Face the facts.. You have no moral leg to stand on..

NONE... ZERO... ZILCH... NADA....

And by the way, where was the GOP cheering section while Obama was picking off terrorists leaders? Oh, that's right, that doesn't count because he has a "D" after his name...

If we were talking about the GOP, you would have a point..

But we're not, so you don't..

We're talking about YOUR blatant hypocrisy allowing Odumbo to kill "hundreds" of innocent civilians and YOU not saying A SINGLE DAMN THING ABOUT IT...

Ya'all's credibility is completely shot on this issue..

COMPLETELY... UTTERLY.... UNEQUIVOCALLY...

The LEAST you could do is have the decency to admit yer hypocrisy...

But, of course, no one here will EVER do that... :^/

Look them up yourself.

And, then report back here.

Um, make that hundreds.

And by the way, where was the GOP cheering section while Obama was picking off terrorists leaders? Oh, that's right, that doesn't count because he has a "D" after his name...

Facts???

Except the tens of thousands of innocents that Odumbo killed..

But they don't count because it was a Democrat who killed them...

DO you HEAR yourself???

There's a distinct difference between appeasing terrorists, and inciting terrorists, which is what Trump seems determined to do,

Of course, you didn't say this when Odumbo was banning people from Iraq..

Why is that??

Oh that's right.. Because Odumbo has a -D after his name, so it's perfectly acceptable...

Like I said.. Do you even HEAR yerself??

Complete and utter nonsense. That is not what either of us are saying. We've had a perfectly sane and workable anti-terrorism policy that doesn't impinge on anyone's rights, and has managed to prevent all but a few lone-wolf attacks (none of which, I'll needlessly add, were by refugees from countries on Trump's Banned Muslims list).

There's a distinct difference between appeasing terrorists, and inciting terrorists, which is what Trump seems determined to do, perhaps in the hope that, when the expected backlash comes, he can play the role of Great Savior. Great for him, awful for the rest of us.

What happened in Quebec has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism ... at least, not in the way you are claiming. Do you know who the shooter at the Quebec mosque is?

What do you know of David Frum? Do you think of him as a reliable source?

It's islamic terrorism..

As such, it has EVERYTHING to do with what I am warning about...

Speaking of warnings, stay tuned for a very important link ...

I really don't like to read links.. :D heh

Ya'all SAID NOTHING...

Huh?? Where were ya'all then??

Odumbo was launching daily drone strikes, killing TENS of THOUSANDS of innocent people in his quest to attack terrorists..

WHY didn't ya'all open yer mouths THEN and oppose fighting back!??

I'll tell you why..

Because Odumbo has a '-D' after his name and that is the ***ONLY*** thing that matters here..

You don't care about the refugees, you don't care about pacifism, you don't care about ANYTHING except that all powerful '-D'...

So please.. Spare me the crocodile tears about the poor refugees and the poor innocents that are going to be "crushed under President Trump's boot"...

Ya'all had your chance to stand up for them and you chose Party uber alles..

Ya'all made your choice.. Now you have to live with it...

None of ya'all have a moral leg to stand on here..

It's THAT simple...

How can it be a warning sign if it has NOTHING to do what you are warning about? Do you know who the Quebec shooter is?

Speaking of warnings, stay tuned for a very important link ...

I am saying that it is a warning sign of what COULD happen with the influx of thousands and thousands of unfettered and un-vetted refugees...

And, refugees who enter Canada or the US are the most vetted group of individuals on the planet, bar none. So, stop with the "unvetted" nonsense.

Not according to Obama officials.. They have stated for the record that the vetting process under Obama was haphazard, incomplete and virtually useless...

The Left's insistence that this is something abhorrent and unprecedented is completely and utterly refuted by FACTS...

Ya'all don't HAVE any facts.. Ya'all just have hysterical fanaticism..

And they can't seem to imagine what life would be like if the shoe were on the other foot: what if Obama had come into office and immediately nationalized the banks and the healthcare system, as many, including Sanders, were urging him to do in the wake of the 2008 financial disaster? Would Republicans be saying, "well, that's what we expected him to do anyway"? Sure they would.

And if President Trump had done anything like that, you would have a point..

But he hasn't, so you don;t...

No, the alternative to war is not 'peace at any cost'.

YOUR alternative to war is 'peace at any cost'...

THAT's your problem...

You and neil are saying 'don't fight back'.. Appease the terrorists..

Yet, where was your newfound pacifism when yer Messiah, Odumbo was bombing the shit out of countries and killing tens of thousands of innocent people??

Ya'all SAID NOTHING...

So, once again, you have NO MORAL FOUNDATION here whatsoever...

No, the alternative to war is not 'peace at any cost'. You've apparently been asleep for the last seventy years or so, while dozens of alternatives to war have been developed. Though the right hates it, internationalism, and international cooperation, have made the world a safer place. Treaty organizations like NATO and the UN have actually rendered whole swathes of the world safer for humanity.

But that apparently doesn't fit into the plans of the Trump-Putin Axis, wherein the chaos sown by their aggressive policies make the world safe, not for humanity, but for oligarchs and opportunists.

Then you would agree that the attack in Quebec should not be conflated with your views on refugees.

And, refugees who enter Canada or the US are the most vetted group of individuals on the planet, bar none. So, stop with the "unvetted" nonsense.

Just as CW has written in his column above. The right's insistence that all this is normal presidential behavior is laughable at best, hopelessly and dangerously naïve at worst.

And they can't seem to imagine what life would be like if the shoe were on the other foot: what if Obama had come into office and immediately nationalized the banks and the healthcare system, as many, including Sanders, were urging him to do in the wake of the 2008 financial disaster? Would Republicans be saying, "well, that's what we expected him to do anyway"? Sure they would.

Yep....

Until such time as there is cause NOT to believe it, yer damn skippy..

It's how good leaders keep their citizens safe...

Congratulations, you've just alienated the few middle easterners most likely to join the fight against extremism.

No.. because if they are likely to join the fight, then they understand the concept of security such as that...

Nationalism, fascism, and religious extremism are all in that basket of deplorable ideologies that only lead to war and mass death. It's a shame that so many have forgotten the lessons of the past.

Peace at any cost, eh???

You DO realize that "peace at any cost" is nothing more than a euphemism for slavery right??

It's EXACTLY that "Peace At Any Cost" attitude that caused patriotic Americans to overwhelmingly tell the Democrat Party to take a hike....

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded sense of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing is worth war is much worse. The man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing more important than his own personal safety is a miserable creature who will never be free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

That's today's Democrat Party...

It's why their ideology has been TOTALLY and COMPLETELY rejected by patriotic Americans...

To be clear, I am not saying that the Quebec City terrorist attack was caused by the influx of refugees..

I simply point out, using facts and logic, that such attacks are MORE likely when there is a huge influx of un-vetted refugees as opposed to when there is NO huge influx of un-vetted refugees..

If you have ANY facts or logic to dispute this, by all means..

Until such time as that, it stands as factual...

Sounds like an excuse to treat all refugees AS terrorists. Congratulations, you've just alienated the few middle easterners most likely to join the fight against extremism.

But then again, you're not fighting extremism, are you? You're embracing it, certainly in this country, and in Europe as well. What the Republicans, and definitely those around Trump, seem to want is an all-out clash of civilizations, just as the jihadists do.

Nationalism, fascism, and religious extremism are all in that basket of deplorable ideologies that only lead to war and mass death. It's a shame that so many have forgotten the lessons of the past.

For example???

TRANSLATION: I know you are right but don't have the facts to 'prove' you wrong, so I am not even going to bother to try.. :D

's OK... Winning all the time is getting boring.. :D

But lately I get the feeling that Trump’s critics have evolved from expecting Trump to be Hitler to preferring it. Obviously they don’t prefer it in a conscious way. But the alternative to Trump becoming Hitler is that they have to live out the rest of their lives as confirmed morons. No one wants to be a confirmed moron. And certainly not after announcing their Trump opinions in public and demonstrating in the streets. It would be a total embarrassment for the anti-Trumpers to learn that Trump is just trying to do a good job for America. It’s a threat to their egos. A big one.
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/156540315831/be-careful-what-you-wish-for-especially-if-it-is

Emphasis mine..

You see the dangerous trap ya'all are falling into...

The Left Wingery *WANT* President Trump to do unspeakable and horrible things so you can stand and proclaim, SEE!!! WE WERE RIGHT!!! TRUMP IS DOING UNSPEAKABLE AND HORRIBLE THINGS!!!

Ya'all have to admit. That's a pretty sad and pathetic thing to want...

We saw a little bit of that with Don and Bashi hoping Trump holdings and Twitter go belly up... Thousands, TENS of thousands of Americans out of work and THAT is viewed as a *GOOD* thing!???

W.T.F. people!??

But THAT is what happens when hysterical Party fanatics put Party before country...

They become the very monsters that they claim the other side is..

"One must guard, when fighting monsters, not to BECOME the monster."
-Nietzsche

The entirety of the Left Wingery are well on their way to becoming the monsters that they claim the Right is.. Many on the Left have completed that journey...

In other words, we need to move on from that with a laser beam focus on the here and now and what the resistance needs to do to move forward.

Don't bother trying - he is still on a high because one black swan event allowed his bigot-in-chief to thread a major popular vote loss and create a EV victory. Even though the Republicans lost ground in the popular vote, the Senate and the House, the Right Wing things they won a 'landslide'. It is as much as landslide as 160,000 people at last week's inauguration is the "biggest ever. Period.".

Sad.

Hell, Canada isn't even blocking 5-year-olds from predominantly Christian countries with a history of terrorism - like Russia and the U.S.A.

I don't have time to explain to you what happened in Quebec ... it's a stressful day today for me and I have a lot of reading to catch up with. :)

So the Republicans plan to just ignore all of the folks marching in the streets. Let's see how that works out for y'all.

Yes it does.. Just like Nice and Brussels and Charlie Hedbo and Orlando and San Bernardino and all the other terrorist attacks...

No one is claiming that ALL refugees are terrorists..

But if there is just one single terrorist in the fold, then the price of letting refugees in is simply to great...

Wrong answer. It shows no such thing.

Oh, that's a pretty safe bet, Michale.

I know you believe that..

But recent history would seem to prove otherwise..

I'm just sayin'.... :D

It's EXACTLY what is happening and you don't have ANY facts to dispute that..

45 is doing something that Hillary couldn't: galvanizing the Democratic base.

Which says a LOT for Hillary Clinton and the Party that chose her...

Willing to concede that Hillary was a HUGE mistake yet?? :D

You can expect to face a fiercer, more determined Democratic party when we face off at the polls again, my friend.

Yea, that's what ya'all said when you said you would oppose President Trump's nominees..

I'll ask again.. Howz that workin out for ya'all?? :D

How is what happened at a mosque in Quebec related to Trump's Muslim travel ban

It shows the danger of what CAN happen with unfettered and un-vetted refugees from terrorist dominated countries...

why should PM Trudeau regret his stance on welcoming Syrian refugees and all those who flee persecution, conflict and war?

Because it's glaringly obvious that terrorist groups are infiltrating terrorists amongst the refugees...

That should concern EVERY leader who cares more about their people than they do about being politically correct...

If wishing were all that we were doing, you'd have a point, but that isn't what's happening. 45 is doing something that Hillary couldn't: galvanizing the Democratic base. You can expect to face a fiercer, more determined Democratic party when we face off at the polls again, my friend.

Well, let's see: despite minorities in both houses of Congress, we've managed to delay votes on Tillerson, Sessions, DeVos, and a few others.

Sessions and Tillerson in particular will probably be called back for more questioning in the wake of Trump's ban on Muslims from countries without Trump properties..

Senate democrats caved initially (a perennial problem), but their spines are stiffening some following the mass protests, particularly in the wake of the Muslim Ban. Stay tuned...

Bet the farm on it.

And the fact that ya'all have been WRONG on EVERY point to date is meaningless???

Let's face reality.. Ya'all's claims amount to nothing more than wishful thinking..

Ya'all figure if you wish hard enough, it will come true...

If yer wishing didn't stop President Trump from becoming a reality, what makes ya'all think that ANY of ya'all's wishes will be granted??

How is what happened at a mosque in Quebec related to Trump's Muslim travel ban and why should PM Trudeau regret his stance on welcoming Syrian refugees and all those who flee persecution, conflict and war?

How's that STOPPING ALL PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NOMINEES plan werkin out for ya'all?? :D

Hell, even SENATOR FAUXCHOHANTAS is singing the praises of Trump's nominees!!! :D

It doesn't get any better than that.. :D

Which in fact, it was and which in fact, it did.. :D

Whoop. He apparently didn't read CW's article. The odds that Trump will make any 'adjustments' to appeal to "an increasingly multiracial and multiethnic America" are slim to none, and diminishing quickly.

And your evidence of that is....????

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Yea.. That's what I thought..

I have news for Mr Hanson: the election of Trump was the "Black Swan event", and the multiethnic Democratic party is alive and well and planning to wrest the government back from the Republicans, who have now demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can't be trusted with power.

TRUMP IS TOAST prediction #932

You keep believing that... That will make the Democrat Party a permenant minority Party.. :D

Bet the farm on it.

In fact, as the protests we've seen this last week amply demonstrate, support for the Democratic agenda is far broader and deeper than this National Review writer is willing to admit. The millions to took to the street the day after the inauguration in hand-made knit caps were in many ways the antithesis of the 'elites' that this writer would have us believe comprise the Democratic base.

And he says this as Trump fills his cabinet with billionaire dilettantes. Amazing.

My favorite part of this article was when he dismisses California as an "outlier", and suggests that attempts to 'get out the vote' in the black community would backfire:

"The very efforts to ensure that 95 percent of blacks will vote for other Democratic nominees might only polarize other groups in an increasingly multiracial and multiethnic America. Trump, of course, knows all this and will make the necessary adjustments."

Whoop. He apparently didn't read CW's article. The odds that Trump will make any 'adjustments' to appeal to "an increasingly multiracial and multiethnic America" are slim to none, and diminishing quickly.

I have news for Mr Hanson: the election of Trump was the "Black Swan event", and the multiethnic Democratic party is alive and well and planning to wrest the government back from the Republicans, who have now demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can't be trusted with power.