Yep.. Make E-Verify mandatory... Stiff penalties for employers who hire illegals and bypass checks..

This SHOULD have bi-partisan support.. Every Weigantian SHOULD support these measures...

Meanwhile, global terrorism has surged under Obama. Of the past 16 years, the worst year for terrorism was 2014, with 93 countries experiencing an attack and 32,765 people killed. 2015 was the second worst, with 29,376 deaths. Last year, four radical Islamic groups were responsible for 74 per cent of all deaths from terrorism: ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda.9 In this context, the President’s claims to be succeeding against what he euphemistically calls “violent extremism” are absurd. Much opprobrium has been heaped on Donald Trump in the course of the past year. But there was much that was true in his underreported August 15 foreign policy speech on the subject of Islamic extremism and the failure of the Obama Administration to defeat it.
http://www.the-american-interest.com/2016/11/21/donald-trumps-new-world-order/

The whole article is a fascinating read from the mind of Dr Henry Kissinger...

When a University cop kills a scumbag to save his life, Campus Cops are denigrated as "glorified security guards" and "cop wannabees"....

When a University cop kills a scumbag to save other lives, Campus Cops are hailed as heroes...

Sometimes I just hate the hypocrites.. :^/

I find the insistence of many liberals now that Clinton won the popular vote to be annoying. Yeah, she did, and maybe the Electoral College needs scrapping, I dunno. The much more important point is that Hillary Clinton, the very embodiment of Establishment Washington, lost the presidency to Donald Trump. Donald Trump! That’s a message that shakes both the Democratic Party and the establishment of the Republican Party to their cores. Whether you like Trump or not, you have to admit that his was a breathtaking achievement.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/if-trump-were-a-democrat-hed-be-a-hero/

Yep.. yep....

Man....Cop.. A distinction without a difference...

It could have easily been a carrying civilian..

The point is, a man with a gun prevented more loss of life...

Q: How many kids have been killed this year by firearms?

A: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/child-injured-killed

How many have been killed by cars??

BAN CARS!!!!

Notice that the refugee scumbag didn't have a gun.. Yet he was able to inflict a whole lot of misery and pain and was STOPPED by a man with a gun..

Guns simply are not the problem.... People who want to kill WILL kill...

Open carry states have some of the lowest violent crime and gun crimes in the country..

Areas that have the STRICTEST gun laws are a shithole of gun violence...

These are the facts that no one on the Left will concede...

Guns are NOT the problem...

The world..

Iran is being a bully..

Appeasing bullies and turning the other cheek simply invites more bullying and an escalation in bullying..

Stopping it now actually is the better choice to de-escalate the situation...

It's the difference between living in the REAL world and living in a fantasy utopia where everyone is reasonable and rational...

By a cop with a gun.

Q: How many kids have been killed this year by firearms?

A: http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/child-injured-killed

No amount of lipstick will make this pig look good..

Democrats need to change their message or they will be the minority Party in perpetuity....

Who's laughing?

They are trying to make us out to be savages. The Revolutionary Guard, prompted by the Iranian hardliners want to create a situation where we are attacking them and they can claim self defense. They can easily build bomb proof bunkers and develop their nuclear program there, but if they do it without provocation then they risk renewed sanctions from Europe, Russia, China, etc.

Nobody is laughing at us, they know we have the strongest military in the world and a few PT boats aren't going to inflict any meaningful damage to us. They are watching to see how smart we are.

This is the adult world that seems to be beyond Trump and the diminutive chest thumpers he is surrounding himself with.

How was this latest scumbag stopped??

By a man with a gun....

So.... Yea....

Yep.... Just as I predicted...

There is nothing wrong with our message.. The American people LOVE our message.. It's just our messaging that's the problem..
-The Democratic Party

Well, I tried to help...

The Dems just guaranteed a GOP majority and POTUS for the remainder of my life....

And, since I plan to live forever... :D

Maybe you have heard of it...

Which is second. NUMERO UNO is first. So your guns are more important than somebody's kids lives?

Basically, Iran is bullying the US and the world is laughing...

Which will cease after 20 Jan 2017.. Because President Trump's and SecDef Mattis' military simply won't stand for it...

Weapons lock demonstrates clear intent...

We are doing EXACTLY what they want us to do...

Stand by impotently and take it, thereby showing the world that the US can be pushed around and threatened and absolutely NOTHING will happen..

Basically, Iran is bullying the US and the world is laughing...

Bloody the bully's nose (IE sink a couple) and the threats and pushing around stops...

How can anyone reconcile this NUMERO UNO priority with allowing anybody to buy a high powered armaments and have no checks on sanity or intent?

2nd Amendment...

Maybe you have heard of it...

Why do you think they are provoking us Michale? What do you think they want us to do?

How can anyone reconcile this NUMERO UNO priority with allowing anybody to buy a high powered armaments and have no checks on sanity or intent?

Sink the first couple.. Word will spread...

How can anyone reconcile this NUMERO UNO priority with allowing refugees, refugees that are a PROVEN threat to Americans, entry into this country?

Who cares about the Vanity Vote???

It won't change anything..

Sure, Trump can mouth off about it all he wants.. That doesn't cost anything or waste any time...

Why won't Democrats support a recount in the North Carolina Governor race??

They are trying to shut down the recount there...

I disagree.. That's EXACTLY the reason to suspend entry of refugees.. Until such time as they can be determined to be not a threat to Americans..

In fact, I would argue that it is a good time to talk about the US letting in far more refugees than it has thus far from the Middle East and North Africa.

Yea, like I said.. What could go wrong??

Oh, besides dead Americans, I mean.. :^/

We can ask the families of those attacked how THEY feel about it, eh??

These are isolated incidents and not a reason to suspend the entry of refugees.

In fact, I would argue that it is a good time to talk about the US letting in far more refugees than it has thus far from the Middle East and North Africa.

Yea... Let's bring in all the refugees that we possibly can..

What could POSSIBLY go wrong?? :^/

Michale -

Why isn't he demanding recounts if he really believes there was massive voter fraud?

For the same reason that Camp Clinton wouldn't have called for a recount if THEY had won.. :D

You're assuming facts not in evidence, Michale. Stop with the fantasizing and stick to the known facts.

FACT: Trump claimed he would have won the popular vote if it hadn't been stolen from him by "millions of people who voted illegally."

FACT: He is not demanding a recount to prove he's right.

FACT: He is not supporting Stein's recount

Why is he not demanding a recount and supporting the partial recount by Stein if he honestly believes he is right?

What I mean by that is that the first mention of "Alt Right" to denote "irredeemable deplorables" here in Weigantia came from Camp Clinton.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Right

But as far as Weigantia is concerned, it started with Camp Clinton...

Yea, I know.. I had to raise my watch cuz my BS was getting to high.. :D

That would be a little more convincing if he wasn't running his mouth off about how he won except for the imaginary illegal votes :)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Right

THAT says it all about the election of Trump.. :D

Facts show the numbers of switch voters...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/live-updates/general-election/real-time-updates-on-the-2016-election-voting-and-race-results/map-the-obama-voters-who-helped-trump-win/

What nonsense?? I just love to point out how the Left just loves their marketing and focus groups.. :D

Probably because Trump feels that getting on with the business of the country is more important than figuring out who won the Vanity Vote...

I happen to agree with that sentiment..

Cite??

Because the first time we have heard it, it came from Camp Clinton...

As has been well-established, there was no racism..

There was bigotry towards ILLEGAL immigrants, but that is a bigotry that is readily understandable and a bigotry I share...

The "alt-right" was a self selected name, as "white supremacists" or "racists" was deemed unpalatable for some reason. Don't start the whole "climate change" vs. "global warming" nonsense again with the "alt-right".

https://www.skepticalscience.com/climate-change-global-warming.htm

This is not holding up to scrutiny. The racism was directed at Latinos, not blacks. Also the numbers of switch voters is not proven, simply and assumption by the Trump campaign.

Can we agree that Trump is not responsible for the actions and statements of the "alt right" scumbags any more than Hillary would be responsible for the actions and statements of the (O)BLM scumbags...

It's the contradiction in what Trump is saying ...

On the one hand, he is criticizing the recount efforts and, on the other hand, he is saying that there was massive fraud.

If he thinks there is massive fraud, then he should welcome a recount that will, presumably, prove that he won the popular vote.

Am I right or am I right ... to be confused?

If Hillary had won and (O)BLM fanatics held rallies and celebrated her win by beating up white people....

Would the Left have held Hillary responsible??

Nope, they wouldn't...

Trump has resoundingly denounced the "alt right" (funny how the Left has to make up new names for the same old bigoted shit) as deplorable...

What more does the Left want??

Which just feeds the Left Wingery nonsense that it was the "racist" vote that gave Trump the White House..

It's funny because those "racist" voters went for Obama in 2008 and 2012... :D

No doubt :D

Why isn't he demanding recounts if he really believes there was massive voter fraud?

Oh that's easy...

For the same reason that Camp Clinton wouldn't have called for a recount if THEY had won.. :D

It seems the word "asinine" is becoming increasingly useful across the political spectrum.

They have adjusted their model to accept higher racist voting patterns from the "seamier, populist corners of the Internet."

I'm a little confused about something and you are the perfect one to help me understand ...

President-elect Trump is criticizing the Stein camp for requesting recounts of the vote in three states. But, he also said that he would have won the popular vote if millions of people hadn't voted illegally.

Why isn't he demanding recounts if he really believes there was massive voter fraud?

Oh, wait ...

For the Republicans in Congress??

Probably...

For me?? Because it's Trump!! :D

Where is the money going to come from? When Obama proposed an infrastructure bill the Republicans blocked it because they claimed it was unfunded. What is the difference now? A -R after the name in the White House?

That compares to gross domestic product growth of 1.5 percent this year, according to the OECD.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-election-points-us-growth-boost-oecd-105313461.html

Not even in office and Trump is already making America great again!! :D heh

Agreed... :D

Yup.

No, just like those with a -R after their name aren't all minor deities ;)

All politicians make a career out of being offended...

But it's the Left Wingery who has elevated being offended to an art form..

Microaggressions??? Safe Spaces??

Ring any bells?? :D

Yes, no one is perfect... :D

Yet, those with a '-D' after their names get a pass.. :D

Me: All cop killings should be treated equally.
Michale: No, special circumstances for targeted killings
NAPO: Make any murder of police office federal crime

Put your detective hat on and see if you can spot the difference.

Ahhh.. I see..

I was talking about the "federal crime".. I am still working on getting Trump to make ambushing a cop automatic death penalty...

Me: All cop killings should be treated equally.
Michale: No, special circumstances for targeted killings
NAPO: Make any murder of police office federal crime

Put your detective hat on and see if you can spot the difference.

Your memory might not be perfect, remember "Troopergate", which was before she was picked as VP and saw her ratings drop dramatically?

This isn’t a column about politics, but during the recent “Hamilton” kerfuffle, Vice President-elect Mike Pence provided a pitch-perfect demonstration of how not to take offense. He didn’t bristle or fume when he was booed by audience members and pointedly addressed by the cast during the curtain call. “I wasn’t offended,” he said afterward. He praised the “great, great show” and the “incredibly talented” cast, and made clear that actor Brandon Dixon’s impassioned statement from the stage didn’t trouble him.

“I nudged my kids,” Pence told Fox News, “and reminded them, ‘That’s what freedom sounds like.’?”

:D

And that is inconsistent with comment #199 exactly how??

Crickets.

If I could figure out how to GOOGLE by date, showing you would be easy..

I had read many articles in 2008 about how Palin was the nation's top governor in approval ratings, how she was applauded by Democrats for taking on entrenched Republican corruption..

But all of that came to an end, once Palin was nominated for GOP VP....

Just as we never heard anything bad about Trump (beyond the tabloids) until Trump ran for President.. Then all of the bad things came out of the woodwork... Only to disappear again once Trump won the election..

That's why it's hard to take any accusations from the Left seriously..

Cause the facts clearly show that they are based on a partisan agenda...

As such, I believe it warrants the Special Circumstances designation that would make an automatic death penalty warranted...

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/11/18/ftp416/#comment-88956

Mike Pence not Being Offended by P#$$y Grabbing:
“As a husband and father, I was offended by the words and actions described by Donald Trump in the eleven-year-old video released yesterday. I do not condone his remarks and cannot defend them,” Pence said in a statement.

Mike Pence not being offended by claims of voter suppression:
“That’s offensive to me, that kind of language. It’s not our operation,” Pence denied.

Mike Pence not being offended by LGBT Community:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_Freedom_Restoration_Act_(Indiana)

Fish. Barrel. Shotgun.

You really need to be consistent.

Not sure what you mean??

Ah well.. All good things must come to an end... :D

Michale, you specifically said, when I urged this exact point, that I was missing the special circumstances of targeting.

You really need to be consistent.

Yeah, not so much. Please list quotes from senior politicians "lauding" Palin.

Crickets.

Trump must demand a recount! If the Democratic criminal element are allowed to get away with this then who knows what they will do in future elections. Trump owes it to himself and his voters to demand a thorough investigation of every vote cast.

Trump's claim of illegal voters, while credible*, is as assinine as Hillary's & Stein's demand for a recount...

*'credible' defined as 'wouldn't surprise me'...

"There can be no offense where none is taken."
-Sarek Of Vulcan

Now THAT is what I would like to see....

Same thing about the George Zimmerman accusations..

Same thing about the accusations against Trump for sexual harassment and assault etc etc..

We only hear about all the alleged bad stuff AFTER something happens that the Left doesn't like..

You notice ALL the "victims" of Trump assaults have completely disappeared...

There's no real facts to any of it..

It's all nothing but a partisan agenda at work...

ANd yet, he has still been so successful...

And funny thing about "almost everybody" saying that...

It only comes out *AFTER* Trump runs for President...

Just like Palin. Palin was THE best governor in the entire country, lauded by Republicans and Democrats alike..

Right up until she was selected as GOP VP...

THEN she became the spawn of Lucifer..

Funny how that ALWAYS is that way, eh? :D

That's why I don't put too much stock in those claims. Because it's obvious that they are nothing but partisan motivated..

Betcha they will... :D

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601491/the-all-american-iphone/

This man has real problems. He just can't take not getting everything his way. Sad!

In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/802972944532209664

Trump must demand a recount! If the Democratic criminal element are allowed to get away with this then who knows what they will do in future elections. Trump owes it to himself and his voters to demand a thorough investigation of every vote cast.

I don't. I think he is a child man. Almost everybody who has dealt with him over decades has said the same thing.

Yes. But is this the policy of the Democratic leadership - Pelosi/Schumer? Do they intend to block every piece of legislation, regardless of it's value to the U.S.?

Something VERY similar to saying, "our intent is to make the president a one-term president", don'tcha think??? :D

:D

Probably not.. But I am willing to bet that Trump has a thicker skin then most people think....

I personally believe that Trump's thin-skin'ed persona is just that. A persona cultivated to accomplish a specific mission...

It is probably just the start of a series of attacks against him. His unwillingness to separate his business from official duties will open him up to a lot more.

Plus he seems determined to piss the press off. That isn't going to help.

He is an easy and very unsympathetic target. This isn't likely to be a fun time for him.

Now I just GOTTA see this!!! :D

use tinyurl.com to shorten the URL... 9 times out of 10, that bypasses the NNL filter...

Asinine.

CONSPIRACY THEORY:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/11/the_democrats_real_strategy_in_launching_recounts.html

Comments??? :D

Suffice to say they would have destroyed all your arguments and you would have rushed to WI to help Hillary in the recount ;)

Any URLs???

Unless you are letting Michale program it again ;)

heh

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/414808/conservative-alternative-obamacare

Basically it is the same as the Ryan plan you posted earlier. It is the only one I've seen. The key provisions are:

1. Eliminate state boundaries - this is unlikely to have any impact on costs, but why not, it can't hurt in any way I can determine, unless it allows large "confusopolies" to develop, such as we have with cable companies.

2. Tax breaks for everybody - this only applies to the small subset of people who pay enough Federal taxes and who don't get their healthcare through their job for this to have an impact. It will also need to be funded, or will increase the National Debt - needless to say there is nothing in the plan explaining how this will be offset. Little or no impact for 90%+ of people.

3. Small business pools - why not just add this to Obamacare? It might have some impact, but as usual the impact isn't detailed, so who knows.

4. Transparency - we already have transparency - all you have to do is look at your insurance claims, or even better, use the insurance companies tools that allow you to compare costs between hospitals and doctors. But there are a few problems that make this sound a lot better than it is:

i/ If you are in an emergency situation, you don't have time to pick your doctor or hospital
ii/ Understanding costs up front are devilishly difficult. A hospital visit for even a simple procedure will result in charges from the hospital, the doctors (often many), incidentals, different levels of co-payment, in or out of plan, etc. I just went through this with one of my kids who was assigned an anaesthesiologist who was out of plan even though the hospital and the primary doctors were in the plan. It was a royal pain to get the cost covered.
iii/ Doctors and hospitals don't make it easy to see the costs up front, for obvious reasons. The first question they ask is who your insurance company is, because they have different contracts with each, sometimes different prices for different plans with the same company.

5. HSAs - these are bandied about as some sort of miracle cure. I've had one for years and it is great for saving on taxes, but that it about it. If you can't adequately fund your pension, you probably can't adequately fund an HSA.

I confidently predict a repeal of Obamacare will increase costs and decrease the number of people covered. It will also cost the government more as the people thrown off of their plans will not get preventative care (a $5 to $1 savings) and will resort to ER where hospitals really rack up the profits at the government's expense. Insurance companies will get to drop unprofitable patients unless they are forced to (they are businesses after all).

Insurance companies hate Obamacare - why do you think they feed disinformation into the right wing bubble?

Here is a rule of thumb that has help up for decades: if insurance companies are feeding obvious nonsense into the Fox News bubble, it probably means their feet are being help to the fire. If they are on board with a plan it probably stinks for the poor and those with pre-existing conditions.

:-)

Ya'all would HAVE to be, considering ya have been dealing with me for over a decade.. :D

In other words, no different than TrainWreckCare.. :D

Frankly, if it increases the number of people covered, keeps costs down and forces insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions, I'm for it.

As far as I can see, the government is on the hook for pre-existing conditions, so this looks like the insurance companies get to cover the profitable citizens and the government is on the hook for the expensive ones. Also, it assumes that everybody can afford to pay the premiums (tax breaks only work if you pay Federal income tax, which 45% of people (the poor and the very rich like Trump) don't pay.

This looks like it will either be a boondoggle for the insurance companies, or result in a lot of people losing their coverage, from what we can make out from the details provided.

:-)

Actually, the claim was both...

I have already debunked the "GOP HAS NO PLAN" claim..

I read that Trump favors one of the plans I listed in the Google link..

Once I find that article, I'll point out the plan...

Now THAT was funny... :D

Trump surprised you about winning the GOP Nomination...

Trump surely surprised you about actually BECOMING President..

So, precedent IS well established that Trump COULD surprise you about being a better President than Obama..

Granted, that's a very low bar, but.... :D

Santa: Be reasonable Neil

Me: OK, I want Trump to be as good a President as Obama.

Santa: What color of rocket ship?