Comments on: Friday Talking Points [406] -- Deportation Clarification

By: Michale

Michale — Thu, 15 Sep 2016 08:20:59 +0000

Another one bites the dust... And another one gone and another one gone... Another one bites the dust...
-Queen

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:05:51 +0000

So apologies if there was any offense, but in my defense of ignorance:

Neil was ignorant of the fact that jigging is a slur...

Ergo, Neil admits that it's a slur...

Sure, it could be other things, depending on the region...

But it's ALSO a slur...

And you can't admit that...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:04:24 +0000

Where does he say that "jigging" is a slur? So apologies if there was any offense, but in my defense of ignorance: The comment was directed to Neil as he was afraid that some might take offense to the use of "jigging". Yes, he was afraid that some might think it's a slur.. You chose to jump in and call me out for being wrong. I wasn't. Of course you were wrong.. You just can't admit it... Michale

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:43:27 +0000

Yes, my mistake.. My sincerest apologies.. Admitting/apologizing for being wrong, it's all the same to me. I apologize that you did not know that is how I see it. You continue to ignore one salient point.. Neil apologized for the racial slur... Really? Let's review what was said: So my wife read my comment and tells me that "Jigging" is not an American term. That, as usual, I've put my foot in it. Like the time, in complete innocence, when my 4-year-old son's YMCA kids soccer team was given black T-Shirts and I named them the Black Panthers. Oops. So apologies if there was any offense, but in my defense of ignorance: Where does he say that "jigging" is a slur? "Black Panthers" isn't a slur. It might have some racial and political connotations to it in this country, but it isn't a slur. I apologize for not accepting the fact that your claiming a word is used as a racial slur as being evidence. The comment was directed to Neil as he was afraid that some might take offense to the use of "jigging". You chose to jump in and call me out for being wrong. I wasn't. I admit it.

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 10:05:06 +0000

The fact that you have saved the dates of those rare occasions when you do apologize is also very telling.

Actually, I don't "save the dates"... I simply did a very basic GOOGLE search to locate the facts..

So, you were wrong. AGAIN...

Will you concede it??

Of course you won't..

Michale...

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 10:03:57 +0000

You have apologized in the past to other people. That does not negate my comments by any means, as I did not state that you had NEVER apologized, only that I shouldn't expect one. Actually, you stated I don't expect you to admit when you are wrong. History has taught me me that isn't likely to happen with you. which has absolutely NOTHING to do with apology.... You accused me of not admitting when I was wrong. I proved that it's YOU who are wrong. And, since you won't admit it, it's obvious that it is YOU who can never admit when they are wrong... Historically, you've been proven wrong time after time without you ever admitting it. For example....?????? Kinda like when you posted one link to an article that was critical of the GOP, and then spent the next few days telling the rest of us how you were the only one here that is truly independent and unbiased in your criticism. Actually, I have posted MANY links and comments that were critical of the GOP.. So much so that my NPA status was acknowledged by the ULTIMATE authority of Weigantia... So, you are wrong again. Not that I expect you to admit it.. Because you never do... I cannot prove a word is not used as a slur. I know, that's what I have been saying all along... Like I said, you can argue what the definition of "IS" is until the cows come home.. But the simple fact is, I have two pieces of factual evidence that it's a slur... By your own admission, you have none... "These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed." -Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN :D Michale

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Sun, 11 Sep 2016 23:54:52 +0000

Michale, You have apologized in the past to other people. That does not negate my comments by any means, as I did not state that you had NEVER apologized, only that I shouldn't expect one. Historically, you've been proven wrong time after time without you ever admitting it. The fact that you have saved the dates of those rare occasions when you do apologize is also very telling. Kinda like when you posted one link to an article that was critical of the GOP, and then spent the next few days telling the rest of us how you were the only one here that is truly independent and unbiased in your criticism. Michale, you apologizing that you posted the wrong link isn't really the same as admitting that you were wrong on a position you were defending; but hey, you knew that already. I cannot prove a word is not used as a slur. There is no way to do that. You, still, have yet to provide any proof that I was wrong. You provided a link to called racial slurs.org or .com that did not have the word "jigging" in its database. You chose to call me out for saying "jigging" is not a racial slur, and you have yet to prove that it has ever been used as a slur. I have attempted to explain basic principles of grammar that make using the word as a slur impossible, but again, you maintain that I was incorrect.

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:23:03 +0000

I guess I chalk that up as another win.... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:05:53 +0000

Yooooo Hooooooooo???

Listen??? You still out there???

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:47:49 +0000

I believe the phrase you are searching for is "HOISTED BY YER OWN PICARD"... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:47:00 +0000

You're right.. I misspoke.. -Michale, chrisweigant.com/2016/07/12/unified-mostly/#comment-79382 Yes, my mistake.. My sincerest apologies.. -Michale, chrisweigant.com/2016/06/17/ftp396/#comment-77447 And yes, I know I was wrong about the Clinton emails vis a vis the FBI... Michale, chrisweigant.com/2016/08/24/clinton-emails/#comment-82978 And there was that time I posted about the viability of the Clinton Foundation only to retract it w few minutes later when I discovered the facts didn't support the claim... So, you see.. *I* have absolutely NO PROBLEM admitting when I am wrong.. Apparently when you were talking about someone who has a history of NOT admitting when they are wrong..... You were actually talking about yourself.. :D You were wrong about me never admitting I am wrong.. I don't expect you to admit when you are wrong. History has taught me me that isn't likely to happen with you. :D Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Sat, 10 Sep 2016 08:08:33 +0000

How, exactly, does one obtain the etymological evidence needed to prove that a word is NOT now, nor has it ever been used as a slur? I can cite sources all night long where jigging is NOT used as a racial slur.

Apparently, you can't...

Don't tell me, let me guess.. You have a lot of support in email... :D

I don't expect you to admit when you are wrong. History has taught me me that isn't likely to happen with you.

Talk about revisionist history...

I am the ONLY one here who CAN admit when they are wrong... You NEVER have.. The only other two that have before is NYpoet (2) and Stig (1)...

NO ONE else, sans yours truly, has admitted when they were wrong..

You continue to ignore one salient point..

Neil apologized for the racial slur...

You are the *ONLY* one who doesn't think it's a slur...

I don't expect you to admit when you are wrong. History has taught me me that isn't likely to happen with you. :D

Michale

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Fri, 09 Sep 2016 12:54:10 +0000

Michale, How, exactly, does one obtain the etymological evidence needed to prove that a word is NOT now, nor has it ever been used as a slur? I can cite sources all night long where jigging is NOT used as a racial slur. You are correct that I offer no evidence to prove that it isn't a slur, but that is only because I can only cite references where it was used as a slur in the past to prove it IS a slur. So, once again, you are wrong. Talk about a losing streak! You decided to prove me wrong for a comment that I made that was not directed at you, probably because you couldn't do so with the topic that we were discussing. I get it. You were grasping at straws to save face. You challenged me -- therefore it is your job to provide the evidence that verifies YOUR argument. You failed to do so. I am well aware that "jig" has been used as a slur, but the word we were discussing was "jigging". Slurs are not verbs, which should have been your first clue that you were not correct. I don't expect you to admit when you are wrong. History has taught me me that isn't likely to happen with you. .

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:18:43 +0000

It is long established here that you're an incurable victim. You can't have anything "established" without ANY facts to back it up.. :D I'm from Missouri... show me. Where did I blame the "Republican Party" for everything? You blame the Republican Party... This is documented... Michale

By: Kick

Kick — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:16:42 +0000

It's funny how *I* get accused of ignoring facts and issues and points yet YOU post drivel like this.. :D It is long established here that you're an incurable victim... poor you... boo hoo. "Drivel" is not a surprising choice of words on your part. I suggest strapping on the drool cup... or you could just continue wiping the floor of your gushing spittle. And yet, you did when you claimed you don't hold a single Party responsible, yet you are on record as blaming the Republican Party.. I'm from Missouri... show me. Where did I blame the "Republican Party" for everything? What WOULD you have if you didn't have your straw man arguments? Oh, right... your prattling victimhood and your prolific drooling. I can multi-task.. You need not boast about your abilities in that regard, what with all that incessant blaming, whining, salivating, and wiping. You, sir, are an inveterate multitasker. :)

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 12:39:44 +0000

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/breaking-julian-assange-wikileaks-may-start-releasing-hillary-clinton-emails-teasers-next-week-video/

Ya'all just have to know that Hillary is peeing in her Depends...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 11:35:51 +0000

https://www.rexsl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Funny-Minion-Quotes-1-38.png

It's funny cuz it's true"
-Homer Simpson

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:36:37 +0000

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

Looks like Hillary is in REAL trouble.. :D

I guess Trump is NOT toast and his campaign is NOT imploding, eh chums??? :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:35:33 +0000

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/09/06/irish-cafe-owner-sparks-social-media-firestorm-after-saying-gluten-free-diners/

Now THAT's funny...

Ya gotta love the Irish.... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:18:26 +0000

Listen,

You can hem and haw all you want..

But the fact is, I thought it was racist and provided documented proof..

NEIL thought it was racist and he apologized for it.

YOU are the *ONLY* one who thinks it wasn't racist and provide NO FACTS to support your claim...

I have NO DOUBT that there are examples of "jigging" in the connotation of "dancing a jig"...

But that doesn't change the fact that there is documented etymology that shows the word is racist..

All you have to do is pretend that Donald Trump or anyone with an -R after their name said it.

THEN you would be in complete agreement with me that it is racist...

Everything you say and do and think is totally and 1000% based on Party ideology and dogma...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:12:50 +0000

Oh, sure... you betcha. I probably would think that too if it wasn't for Obama's magic time machine and how I keep hearing how everything is Odumbo's fault. SIMPLE FACTS! It's funny how *I* get accused of ignoring facts and issues and points yet YOU post drivel like this.. :D I will never lie to you. And yet, you did when you claimed you don't hold a single Party responsible, yet you are on record as blaming the Republican Party.. But the discussion was about the current POTUS and your spinning of an actual fact into BS on your part. There are many discussions going on here right now.. I can multi-task.. Apparently, you can't.. :D Michale

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 05:15:48 +0000

Michale [217] No matter HOW you try and spin it.. It's STILL a racist slur... Neil has admitted it.. I have proven it.. You have absolutely NO MORAL OR RATIONAL argument to stand on... Give it up... You.... are.... wrong.... I.... am..... correct..... Your link goes to a website called the Racial Slur Database. There are no citations to provide any historical references of "jigging" being a racial slur. What's most pathetic is that the site is a joke! The button to submit a slur is labeled, "SPREAD HATE"! This is what you offer as a source to defend your argument??? By your logic, anyone who uses the word "lesson" is being homophobic since it contains the slur "les". Your assessment of the whole thing is sorely lacking. (Oh, if you think I was calling you an "ass" since it is in the word "assessment".... Well, I won't try to convince you otherwise!)

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Wed, 07 Sep 2016 04:52:15 +0000

Kick,

So stop drooling.

That made me laugh.

By: Kick

Kick — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 23:22:14 +0000

Yet, you have absolutely NO PROBLEM blaming the REPUBLICAN PARTY for everything.. Didn't you mean to say "ya'll" instead of "you" and shouldn't you have capitalized the word "EVERYTHING"? Oh, sure... you betcha. I probably would think that too if it wasn't for Obama's magic time machine and how I keep hearing how everything is Odumbo's fault. SIMPLE FACTS! And YOU got caught in a lie... :D I will never lie to you. I will never tell you something I do not believe. It is for ya'all when the POTUS has a '-R' after his name.. :D But the discussion was about the current POTUS and your spinning of an actual fact into BS on your part. So basically, you get your jollies online by making up straw man arguments for posters but usually the group as a whole? Rather than having a rational discussion based on actual facts, you prefer to live in an alternate reality, drooling in your own little corner, making up your own set of facts for people you really know nothing about? Sad. And the floor-wiping continues!! :D So stop drooling.

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 18:45:33 +0000

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/05/politics/obama-putin-duterte-xi-erdogan-g20-reception/index.html

Proof positive on how bad Odumbo's foreign policy has been...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 17:49:59 +0000

It's funny..

Everyone always claims I have no facts..

And yet, when I *PROVE* that I have NOTHING BUT facts, everyone runs away..... :D

Funny, iddn't it.. :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 14:39:42 +0000

Thyroid problems linked to sudden cardiac death...
http://www.everydayhealth.com/atrial-fibrillation/living-with/how-much-thyroid-hormone-affects-your-heart/

Someone want to tell me again that Hillary is in "perfect health"...

I seem to have forgotten, what with all the *FACTS* to the contrary....

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 12:59:21 +0000

Interesting thing about that video in #221...

Hillary goes into a coughing fit and asks for water, even though she is holding a bottle of water in her hand..

Dementia?? Early onset of Alzheimers??

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 12:40:51 +0000

10 PROMINENT DOCTORS QUESTION HILLARY'S HEALTH 'I can look at the video. You can look.' To not have questions is 'reckless' wnd.com/2016/08/10-prominent-doctors-question-hillarys-health/ Hacking Hillary: A complete timeline of 2016 coughing fits theamericanmirror.com/hacking-hillary-complete-timeline-2016-coughing-fits/ To claim that there is nothing to Hillary's health concerns is to deny reality... Remember, ya'all believed Bill Clinton when he said he did not have sex with that woman.. Ya'all believed Hussein Odumbo when he said if you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan... I'm just sayin'.... :D Hillary is NOT in "perfect health" despite all ya'all's claims to the contrary... Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 12:28:03 +0000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apuA5CACTfs

Yea... Hillary is in PERFECT health.. NO medical issues whatsoever..

Do ya'all REALLY believe that???

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 11:50:21 +0000

Looks like Trump is going to release his complete medical records...

Of course, ya'all being the un-biased and completely objective people ya'all claim to be, you will demand that Hillary reciprocate and release her full medical records..

Right?? :D

"In a pigs eye!!"
-Dr Leonard McCoy, STAR TREK, Amok Time..

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 09:25:00 +0000

Even the propaganda arm of the Demcorat Party is starting to report Hillary's health issues..

Hillary Clinton Fights Back Coughing Attack
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-struggles-fight-back-coughing-attack-n643026

Ya'all just HAVE to know it's bad for Hillary when her standard water-carriers start reporting on the fact of her ill health... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 09:21:04 +0000

Tomorrow, Trump is apparently planning the same sort of minority outreach to African-Americans. That should be interesting, to put it mildly.

So....????

WAS it interesting???

Or was it stupendously awesome for Trump!!!

It was indeed, very awesome for Trump. In fact, it was so frabjously awesome for Trump that the Leftist MSM had to shut down the video feed for fear that Americans would see an entire room full of black Americans rallying around Trump..

THAT is how awesome it was for Trump...

And it's only going to get better and better for Trump and worse and worse for Clinton...

I sense T-SHIRT bets in Weigantia's future.. :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 09:04:26 +0000

Listen,

The word being discussed was "jigging"

Race: Native Americans

In Canada, they do a dance called a jig or jigging.
http://www.rsdb.org/slur/jig

No matter HOW you try and spin it.. It's STILL a racist slur...

Neil has admitted it..

I have proven it..

You have absolutely NO MORAL OR RATIONAL argument to stand on....

Give it up...

You.... are.... wrong.... I.... am..... correct.....

It's that simple...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 08:59:17 +0000

Liz Kreutz ? @ABCLiz Clinton made statements about her new book & Russia/hacking, and then took 7 questions from reporters before excusing herself bc of a cough. That's two coughing fits in one day... And ya'all STILL claim that Hillary has absolutely "NO HEALTH ISSUES" and is in... how did ya'all put it?? "PERFECT HEALTH"... I can see it now.. The very first debate, when Trump is wiping the floor with Hillary (much as I do here with ya'all.. :D) there is going to be a huge coughing fit from Hillary and she will have to cancel the debate... :D That will do WONDERS for Hillary's numbers, eh? :D Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 08:48:38 +0000

I'd like to understand things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. :)

Despite ALL the facts to the contrary... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 08:47:49 +0000

So your "fact" I labeled (1) assumes that all the 81% that do not like the direction in which the country is going is simply because of the president? It is for ya'all when the POTUS has a '-R' after his name.. :D And the floor-wiping continues!! :D Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 08:42:56 +0000

Oh sure, I could blame one person or one party, but that would be shallow and obtuse and what I consider to be intellectual laziness. Why blame one party for the action or inaction of a government made up of many representatives from different parties elected by the many diverse groups of people of the United States? The Constitution divides our government into three branches, etc., cut to the chase... checks and balances.

Yet, you have absolutely NO PROBLEM blaming the REPUBLICAN PARTY for everything..

And YOU got caught in a lie... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 08:41:14 +0000

Listen,

The word being discussed was "jigging"

You can debate what the definition of "IS" is till the cows come home..

But the simple fact is, I thought it was racist, NEIL thought it was racist and I provided documentation and usage that it's racist...

You were wrong... I would have hoped you, like neil, would have had the integrity to admit you were wrong..

But I am not surprised..

Michale

By: Kick

Kick — Tue, 06 Sep 2016 05:07:52 +0000

Michale, You questioned the source of my fact.. I gave you the source. So you claimed as "fact": (1) "And upwards of 80% of the American people **DON'T WANT** an ESTABLISHMENT President... Based on: (2) At last count, 81% of Americans don't like the direction this country is heading. So your "fact" I labeled (1) assumes that all the 81% that do not like the direction in which the country is going is simply because of the president? I can certainly see why you like Trump since you seem equally uninterested in facts versus making up BS to fit your narrative depending on who is in your audience. And yet you are going to vote for the person who is going to continue that direction you CLAIM you don't like.. Where is the logic in that?? Oh sure, I could blame one person or one party, but that would be shallow and obtuse and what I consider to be intellectual laziness. Why blame one party for the action or inaction of a government made up of many representatives from different parties elected by the many diverse groups of people of the United States? The Constitution divides our government into three branches, etc., cut to the chase... checks and balances. I'd like to understand things from your point of view, but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass. :)

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 23:32:18 +0000

Michale [184] The word being discussed was "jigging", NOT "jig". I was talking about the action verb. How does one "jigaboo"? Once again, you try to claim you have proven something that you haven't. All this does is further demonstrate why you are so drawn to Trump: truth means nothing to your arguments!

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:37:51 +0000

chazz: ;}

By: chaszzzbrown

chaszzzbrown — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:20:21 +0000

[206]

You forgot:

"Make Mexico Great Again Also"

Hats available for a limited time.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 22:03:22 +0000

RE [206] -

first line: "buy"

sixth paragraph: strengthen Local government.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:56:45 +0000

But wait..there's more! If you by into Trump's BS in the next 65 days, Donald Trump promises to:

Weaken the NATO Alliance.

Deport up to 4 million immigrants "immediately".

Build a 2,000 mi. long wall. Est. Cost: $25,000,000,000.00 dollars.

Demand that Mexico be made to pay for the wall, either by direct payment, by trade sanctions, by tariffs, or by other tax or fine against Mexican Government interests. Good thing we're friends!

Shut down 'sanctuary cities', and strengthen government.

Start a trade war with China, while simultaneously attempting to re-negotiate, with China and a number of other pacific countries, a version of the TPP that would be weighted more heavily toward US interests than the current version.

Ban all Muslims from a number of countries from entering the United States. How to tell that they are Muslim if they don't declare it isn't spelled out. This used to be 'all Muslims from every country', but has changed for unspecific reasons.

Make sure that Russia doesn't invade Ukraine.

Get the BEST negotiators.

Reduce Taxes on the rich. Repeal Estate taxes altogether.

Invest in the largest re-build of infrastructure in American history.

Make American Great Again. I mean, it's a great country already, with all the barbecues and the hamstrung IRS and SEC, and lower taxes on stocks, and loopholes for friggin' everything, and commercial eminent domain, and now the whole friggin political machine is for sale! Can you f_

*ahem*

So, Don't Wait! Buy into it Now!

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:43:12 +0000

OK OK I'll give ya'all a break and give you time to collect your torn and sundered egos... :D

It's movie night with the lovely wife.... :D

See ya'all in the morning...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:36:58 +0000

I think I deserve another beer!! :D

It is so ordered..

So say we all..
-Battlestar Galactica

Cheers... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:33:31 +0000

Gods I am ON FIRE!!!!!! :D

I think I deserve another beer!! :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:33:02 +0000

Well, to be honest, not all Democrats are interested in the etymology of words or phrases. But it's nice of you to assume that!

No, but all Demcorats are Politically Correct up the wazzooo and see racism where absolutely NO RACISM exists...

Michale

By: chaszzzbrown

chaszzzbrown — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:30:43 +0000

For a while, I wondered whether "calling a spade a spade" had a derogatory history. Of course you did.. You are a Demcorat [sic] after all.. Well, to be honest, not all Democrats are interested in the etymology of words or phrases. But it's nice of you to assume that!

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:23:24 +0000

Jeezus, there's like a half dozen of ya'all and I am wiping the floor with ya'all!!! :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:22:49 +0000

Sure. By "bombing the hell out of them" and "getting the hell out of there". That's a plan. A helluva lot better than Odumbo's "LEAD FROM BEHIND AKA THE COWARD OF THE COUNTRY" plan... Remember Odumbo's "plan" predicated that The Daesch was "the JV"... Odumbo's plan "contained" The Daesch.... Odumbo's plan is shit.... You just can't admit that because you are enslaved by Party dogma. PARTY UBER ALLES Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:20:47 +0000

I noticed something interesting today..

Trump has absolutely NO PROBLEM going to Clinton constituencies and talking to them...

Hillary doesn't have the ...ahem... testicular fortitude to go to areas that are Pro-Trump...

Hillary only goes to areas where she knows she is welcome...

That is why Hillary is going to lose... :D

Michale

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:19:56 +0000

I am not worried at all because I know once Trump is elected, he will turn around the utter downslide that Odumbo has started... Sure. By "bombing the hell out of them" and "getting the hell out of there". That's a plan.

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:13:24 +0000

For a while, I wondered whether "calling a spade a spade" had a derogatory history Of course you did.. You are a Demcorat after all.. To anyone NOT ensnared or enslaved by Party ideology, there is NOTHING racially derogatory about "calling a spade a spade.." I have provided the FACTS along with examples of usage.. Ya'all just CAN'T admit that I am correct about this... It's OK.. I am used to it... :D Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:11:13 +0000

Is Netanyahu giving Obama the finger worrisome? Naw, he's been doing that for years. Helps him politically back home. Privately, he takes our money and exchange programs, allows his military and intelligence services to work closely with ours, and has restrained his own military from finishing off Assad, which it most certainly would love to do (and could, if unleashed), probably at our request. So no, if you know the region as well as you say, you realize that there isn't much to worry about there at all.

Did I say there is anything to worry about???

No...

I merely point it out to show how BADLY Obama and the Demcorats have frak'ed up the region since I was there...

I am not worried at all because I know once Trump is elected, he will turn around the utter downslide that Odumbo has started...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +0000

I never said I was staying home. I said I may opt out of voting for the top of the ballot while performing my civic duties that will matter by voting down ballot...

Semantics.. You are "staying home" insofar as the Presidential Election is concerned...

Now if I was in one of the swing or battle ground states I would have a different take on my position and would have to vote for the top of the ticket as my vote would have an impact.

So, we're back to you being in the sack with Hillary...

I have paid to high a price and continue to work making sure we can defend our rights of which voting is one of (or if you are going to be your usual Cartman like self it is a duty). I exercise the rights and duties I have earned and will not tolerate someone indicating otherwise.

In other words, you get offended when someone calls a spade a spade...

Gotcha {wink} {wink}

Michale

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:06:20 +0000

Michale [180]:

hmm. The right likes Netanyahu, right?

and the right likes Putin, obviously. Strong guy.

So what are you alarmed about? Do you think that WE (democrats?) should be alarmed? Don't be silly. The Israelis trust the Russians about as much as they trust Saudi sand snakes, given that they bankrolled a number of attacks against them. It would take a lot more than cash to change that.

Moreover, Netanyahu's hard-line constituency back home includes a lot of former Russians, Jews who fled from bigoted and inhospitable communities. He'll be constrained from going too far toward the Russians by that alone.

Then, there's the opinion of the US, where there are more Jews than in all of Israel. That is not insignificant.

By: chaszzzbrown

chaszzzbrown — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:05:42 +0000

Interestingly, 'jigaboo' appears to trace back to tshikabo, a Bantu word meaning 'servile' (in a derogatory way).

Jig, jiggle, jigsaw etc. appear to derive from the romance language's variants of 'gigue', a kind of fiddle, and the associated dancing.

All this was further muddled by Will Smith's 1990's hit 'Gettin' jiggy wit it." See:

http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/02/what-jiggy-means-where-that-word-really.html

Cross over word usages are often confusing without some context. For a while, I wondered whether "calling a spade a spade" had a derogatory history (nope! totally garden-tool related).

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:58:09 +0000

https://youtu.be/H133cTro1NQ

This woman can't get thru 30 seconds of a speech before she is coughing up a lung..

And she expects to LEAD this country!??? :^/

Michale

By: goode trickle

goode trickle — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:55:22 +0000

Or they will follow GT's example and just stay home...

If you are going to use something I said to try and support a point get it frigging right... GOT IT????

I never said I was staying home. I said I may opt out of voting for the top of the ballot while performing my civic duties that will matter by voting down ballot...

Again you are missing the point I was making ...In terms of my vote having an impact on the national scale, mine does not due to where I live and the fact that no matter how I vote for POTUS, the EV will go reliably to one party. Arguably, I have the luxury of taking the current position I have because of where I live.

Now if I was in one of the swing or battle ground states I would have a different take on my position and would have to vote for the top of the ticket as my vote would have an impact.

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:50:28 +0000

Here's an idea, Listen...

Pretend it was Trump who said "Jigging".....

There ya go..... NOW you see it as a racial slur... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:47:56 +0000

Not as if any more proof is needed...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqyfM6xcXnI

Feel free to apologize at any time, Listen.. :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:45:50 +0000

Hillary is going to be a RIOT at the debate!!

Equal odds that she has to be carried out on a stretcher... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:44:27 +0000

Hillary Clinton Starts Speech With Massive Coughing Fit: "Every Time I Think About Trump I Get Allergic"

Hillary Clinton had a massive coughing fit as she began a Labor Day campaign rally in Cleveland, Ohio. She had trouble speaking and thanking local elected officials and had to stop multiple times to cough and clear her throat.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/09/05/hillary_clinton_starts_speech_with_massive_coughing_fit_every_time_i_think_about_trump_i_get_allergic.html

Yea... Crooked Hillary is in "PERFECT" health??

Riiigggghhhhtttttt....

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:42:24 +0000

You can concede the point at any time..

But I know you won't....

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:41:36 +0000

You have your opinion, Listen..

Race: Blacks
Short for Jigaboo.
http://www.rsdb.org/slur/jig

And I have the facts...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:40:20 +0000

NO, it really isn't. Jigging refers to a lively dance, usually performed in triple time. Jigging is also a popular form of fishing back home, but it isn't a racial slur.

That's your opinion and I respect that.

But both neil and I recognize it as a racial slur... Hence, my pointing it out and his apology...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:39:19 +0000

The Lion And The Pussycat
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/cKp6Do6cvz1xIbtJQm.i3w--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9MTE3NTtoPTg3Ng--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/54cbc8f7391b42a2aa6045930f389098.jpg

That says it all....

Michale

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:14:05 +0000

Michale [125] "jigging" is a connotation of the racial slur "jigaboo".. NO, it really isn't. Jigging refers to a lively dance, usually performed in triple time. Jigging is also a popular form of fishing back home, but it isn't a racial slur.

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:03:42 +0000

Oh please! As long as we pump the more than $3 billion of aid money into their economy every year, they aren't going anywhere! Unless they can get $4 BILLION from the Russians.. The simple fact that Netanyahu is smoozing with Putin and giving Obama the finger IS worrisome to those who can look beyond Party ideology (that lets out ya'all) and actually have experience and expertise in the region (ditto)... Michale

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:00:18 +0000

Balthasar [169],

Beautifully stated! (Standing ovation).

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 19:49:25 +0000

Liz,

So I guess you acknowledge the validity of my conclusion that the entire opposition to Trump's immigration plans is SOLELY based on the fact that Trump has a '-R' after his name....

A win by forfeit is still a win.. :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 19:48:16 +0000

This is why I just skip over all Michale's comments -

And yet, you caught the comment of mine that pointed out your racist comment..

Caught in a lie, eh neil?? :D But, of course, lies don't matter one bit when they are told by those with a '-D' after their name... :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 19:45:57 +0000

Kick, I belong to no party, and I'm voting for Hillary, nothing to do with partisan ideology whatsoever. Suuuureeee it doesn't.. :D You keep saying that is a "fact" over and over and over ad nauseam, and so I asked where you pulled it from. Then you spew out polling statistics and claim I disagree with them. You're making an argument I never made, Scarecrow, and your straw men are getting tiresome and lame. Are you mentally deficient?? You questioned the source of my fact.. I gave you the source. You can't handle the fact.. I happen to be one of the Americans who doesn't like the direction the country is heading. And yet you are going to vote for the person who is going to continue that direction you CLAIM you don't like.. Where is the logic in that?? Answer: There is none. It's ALL partisan ideology and Party enslavement.... Michale

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 19:13:13 +0000

The original one. Just watched the movie the other night.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 19:04:51 +0000

Elizabeth [172]: Nice. Thank you. That wasn't my point. I wasn't referring to presidential campaign tactics and strategies. Nor was I. I was talking about the discourse about the campaign EVERYWHERE, including here. I think most folks here dream of being able to write and analyze events as well as CW, and a few come close. Others don't try at all, but are as inevitable as weather. There's no sense letting it upset you, otherwise you will remain perpetually upset. And, by the way, I've been meaning to ask, which version of the Cabaret score have you been listening to?

By: apophis

apophis — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:04:50 +0000

Hillary Clinton gets a new plane for final stretch of campaigning. She will be taking her press corp with her on the trail. The campaign has begun...

By: Elizabeth Miller

Elizabeth Miller — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:51:38 +0000

Balthasar[169]

Nice.

So to your point: yes, this year it's ugly and childish and definitely not a Brookings Institution seminar.

That wasn't my point. I wasn't referring to presidential campaign tactics and strategies. Which are par for the course in any year.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:38:42 +0000

Neilm: why do you think that is? I have my own opinion, but I've already been long-winded this morning. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:31:15 +0000

neilm [164]: very interesting!

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:26:06 +0000

Well, I got some news for you and you'll soon find out it's true ... the debating skills on exhibit around here - not to mention the tedious nonsense that passes for discussion, most of the time - are nothing to write home about. Goodness. You ARE having a moment. Well, here's the thing: the GOP base decided long ago that, if they ran a traditional campaign this year that they'd be beat like a toy drum. But then along came Trump - who is the perfect opposite of Barack Obama in nearly every detail (honestly, the only similarity the two men have is that they both wear suits) - and decided to support his run as an 'insurgent' candidacy, designed to harass and annoy, rather than beat, the democrats. Much to their own great surprise, much of the GOP rank and file has gotten behind this effort, echoing, perhaps subconsciously, Trump's own appeal to those he perceives as dispossessed: "what have you got to lose?" Dignity is not, apparently, on the list. To once more echo Norman Lear's brilliant assessment: "Donald Trump is the raised middle finger of the American Right". To discount that is to miss the whole point of this. Hence, Bannon. Hence, Bossie. Hence, Ailes. These are political terrorists, whose goal is to make us uncomfortable, to make us afraid, to make us turn on each other, to make the whole political structure of our country shudder and break. More fun than losing an election, right? So how do you push back at an insurgency? The more you push, the faster it grows. It's designed that way. But there is a strategy, or set of strategies that are usually effective - So you do what Hillary has done: 1. Keep doing business as usual. Don't let them disrupt the process; that's one of their main goals. 2. Chart a moderate, inclusive course that leaves the door open for defections from the other side. That will frustrate your own base, which would rather hang them by their toenails, but will pay off long-term by giving those that they've alienated on their side a place to go. 3. Stay consistent. The enemy of insurgency is stability; even they say so. So let everyone see that you won't be budged by their antics. Let everyone know that you're the adult in the room. 4. Play the long game. Building a sturdy coalition is a slow, stay-in-the-trenches enterprise. It's about your ground operation, and requires the sort of support that has to be grown from below, rather than imposed from above. 5. Stay positive. Insurgencies feed on discontent. Proposing positive solutions, such as higher wages, safer streets and better schools, and then describing how you'd make that happen can undermine the arguments of the other side. 6. Raise the bar. Ever notice that insurgencies 'get away with' stuff that establishments could never do? You have to get folks to imagine the shoe being on the other foot, and to consider what sort of world the insurgents are actually proposing to create. So to your point: yes, this year it's ugly and childish and definitely not a Brookings Institution seminar. But keep in mind (and everybody knows this): this post will not be remembered as well as a one-line 'zinger' would have been. You know that's true. It's a sad fact of life, but also the playing field we're on. We have to play THIS game, right now.

By: neilm

neilm — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 15:33:43 +0000

Balthasar [164]

A longer timeframe on the question about satisfaction with the direction of the U.S. can be seen here:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/1669/general-mood-country.aspx

It shows that Reagan and Clinton 1 both managed to get the country moving in the right direction from a satisfaction perspective. Bush 2 was a disaster, and Obama has not moved the dial.

By: neilm

neilm — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 15:22:29 +0000

You keep saying that is a "fact" over and over and over ad nauseam, and so I asked where you pulled it from. Then you spew out polling statistics and claim I disagree with them. You're making an argument I never made, Scarecrow, and your straw men are getting tiresome and lame. This is why I just skip over all Michale's comments - there are no references or sources, consistency or coherence, just a steady stream of more and more and more nonsense. Trust me, this is a great site when you only read 40% of the comments.

By: Kick

Kick — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:40:16 +0000

Which is why Hillary's support is based on NOTHING but Partisan Ideology.... Trump's support is based on so much more with very little ideology in play... Thank you Kick for proving so perfectly what I have been saying.... :D Are you mentally deficient? Are you trying to be humorous or are you really that stupid? I belong to no party, and I'm voting for Hillary, nothing to do with partisan ideology whatsoever. My mother-in-law who is a Republican who has never voted for a Democrat in her life is voting for Hillary because she has lady parts, nothing to do with partisan ideology. At last count, 81% of Americans don't like the direction this country is heading.. Okay. So? Must I spoon feed you? That's a fallacy of composition. Do you actually believe that every single one of those 81% of Americans believe the country is headed in the wrong direction because the POTUS is a member of "the establishment"? If per chance the answer is "yes," then I ask again: Are you trying to be humorous or are you really that stupid? But I understand. You question facts that you don't like SOLELY because you don't like them.. :D I questioned your statement "And upwards of 80% of the American people **DON'T WANT** an ESTABLISHMENT President... You keep saying that is a "fact" over and over and over ad nauseam, and so I asked where you pulled it from. Then you spew out polling statistics and claim I disagree with them. You're making an argument I never made, Scarecrow, and your straw men are getting tiresome and lame. I happen to be one of the Americans who doesn't like the direction the country is heading. Hint: It's not because I don't want an "establishment" POTUS.

By: ListenWhenYouHear

ListenWhenYouHear — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:26:50 +0000

Looks like our most staunchest ally in the Middle East may not be so "staunch" in the future...

Oh please! As long as we pump the more than $3 billion of aid money into their economy every year, they aren't going anywhere! And it only keeps getting better: a new ten year plan just announced would give them more than $40 billion over the next decade! Gee, all this money just to keep them safe...is it any surprise that peace is NOT an option Netanyahu would ever consider??? Their economy would be destroyed if we no longer needed to buy them new toys to protect themselves with every year.

By: Balthasar

Balthasar — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:15:42 +0000

That Gallup poll number doesn't change very much:

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/0br84xfig0g1hxkjrmv28g.png

Thing is, it includes folks who blame the GOP for everything going wrong in politics, too.

A far better tracking number is the President's approval numbers, which have been rising steadily all year.

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:06:49 +0000

In other news..

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is considering an offer by Russian President Vladimir Putin to host talks in Moscow between the Israeli leader and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, Netanyahu's office said on Monday.

It said in a statement Netanyahu, at a meeting with Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov, "presented Israel's position whereby he is always ready to meet (Abbas) without preconditions and is therefore considering the Russian president's proposal and the timing for a possible meeting".

With his eye on shifting big-power influence in the Middle East, Netanyahu has visited Russia for talks with Putin three times in the last year, and the two also speak on occasion by phone to discuss regional issues.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-considering-talks-palestinian-president-moscow-israeli-statement-104552813.html

Looks like our most staunchest ally in the Middle East may not be so "staunch" in the future...

Chalk that one up to Hillary's and Obama's "competence"....

No wonder Obama gave Putin the stink-eye at the G20....

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 14:04:25 +0000

Apologies, Kick...

I shouldn't cap on you so much. You DID agree with me on a salient and important point..

So, forgive me for comment #161... That was unworthy...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:36:06 +0000

This is the point where you try to debate what the definition of "IS" is.... :D

Or you could man up and just concede the validity of my point...

......

....... NAAAWWWWWW :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:08:28 +0000

Where did you pull this 80% figure from? I have a guess. LOL

GALLUP POLL Aug 3-7 2016

"In general, are you satisfied or dissatisfied with the way things are going in the United States at this time?"

SATISFIED 17%
DISSASITIFIED 82%
UNSURE 2%

"I guessed wrong."
-Austin Powers

:D heh

Don't you EVER get tired of getting slapped down?? :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 13:00:15 +0000

I agree. Unfortunately for Trump, he is seen as an "outsider" by his own party, EXACTLY!!!!!!! Which is why Hillary's support is based on NOTHING but Partisan Ideology.... Trump's support is based on so much more with very little ideology in play... Thank you Kick for proving so perfectly what I have been saying.... :D I am sure it was unintentional, but I thank you anyway.. :D "Thank you, COB" "Than....??? Fuck you! Get it straight Mr Hunter, I'm not on your side. Now you could be wrong! But wrong or right, the Captain can't just replace you at will. That was completely improper! And that's why I did what I did. By the book." I thank you anyway.. -CRIMSON TIDE :D If this BS were actually true, It is actually true.. At last count, 81% of Americans don't like the direction this country is heading.. But I understand. You question facts that you don't like SOLELY because you don't like them.. :D Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:47:26 +0000

So, to sum up...

Clinton ceding the playing field to Trump will give Trump a rope that he can climb all the way into the Oval Office...

Democrats LOVED aggressive operations to severely attack the illegal immigrant problem when it was a Democrat who was ordering it..

Now that a person with an '-R' after his name is proposing similar actions..

NOW... ALL OF THE SUDDEN, Demcorats hate that idea...

The ONLY logical conclusion???

It's ALL about partisan ideology...

No other possibility fits the facts...

Michale

By: Kick

Kick — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:45:51 +0000

In this election, Trump is seen as the outsider candidate... I agree. Unfortunately for Trump, he is seen as an "outsider" by his own party, and by many across all parties he is viewed as more like an unqualified interloper. The fact is, Trump is the ultimate insider who is merely posing as an outsider. I see Trump very much like a modern day Wendell Willkie, and I think this election parallels in many ways the election of 1940. And upwards of 80% of the American people **DON'T WANT** an ESTABLISHMENT President... If this BS were actually true, then Trump's poll numbers wouldn't be stuck in the 36% to 43% range, would they? Perhaps you are confusing 80% of Republicans with 80% of the "American people"? Perhaps you think that typing BS out over and over will somehow magically make it come true? Where did you pull this 80% figure from? I have a guess. LOL

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:44:46 +0000

"I can do this all day."
-Captain America

Interesting side note on this quote..

Chris Evans uses this line in every Captain America movie.. :D

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:42:08 +0000

This is a story about a forgotten time when a Democratic president sold out our ideals for the sake of...well...something.

I haven't seen any evidence that Senator Clinton is running away from this record. In fact, at least with reference to immigration she's moving even more to the right.

At campaign stops Senator Clinton has stated that immigrants who commit crimes should be put on a plane and sent back to where they came from immediately with no legal process.

Those positions have destroyed numerous lives and are not in any way positions of a Democrat.

In fact they are a betrayal of what we hold dear as a party.

If Senator Clinton wants to run on the record of the 1990's then she needs to own it all, good and bad.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/3/449127/-

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:39:22 +0000

“We have to send a clear message. Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn’t mean the child gets to stay.”
-Hillary Clinton, 2014

No Friend of Immigrants

Democratic presidents have been responsible for some of the most punitive immigration policies in modern history.

Over the past few decades, Democratic presidents have implemented some of the most punitive immigration policies and the most draconian enforcement in modern history, as part of a broader push to restructure the US economy and the state’s role in it.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/immigration-democrats-hillary-clinton-barack-obama/

"I can do this all day."
-Captain America

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:34:42 +0000

Operation Gatekeeper was a Clinton-era measure implemented by the U.S. Border Patrol, then a part of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, aimed at halting illegal immigration at the United States–Mexico border near San Diego, California.[1] According to the Immigration and Naturalization Service, the goal of Gatekeeper was "to restore integrity and safety to the nation's busiest border."

Operation Gatekeeper was announced in Los Angeles on September 17, 1994, by U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, and was launched two weeks later on October 1.

The United States Congress allocated additional funds to the United States Border Patrol and other agencies. By 1997, the budget of the Immigration and Naturalization Service had doubled to 800 million dollars, the number of Border Patrol agents had nearly doubled, the amount of fencing or other barriers more than doubled, and the number of underground sensors nearly tripled.

Academic Noam Chomsky has said that Operation Gatekeeper was a "militarization of the U.S.-Mexican border" and alleges it was because NAFTA would have increased illegal immigration into the United States; therefore, Gatekeeper was a precaution to stop future illegal immigration.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gatekeeper

Apparently, ya'all ONLY have a problem with aggressive border operations designed to curb illegal immigration when it's a person with an '-R' after their name proposes it..

The facts are clear, the conclusion unequivocal...

It's ALL about the ideology...

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:28:06 +0000

"Let me be very clear about this: We are still a nation of immigrants; we should be proud of it. We should honor every legal immigrant here, working hard to become a new citizen. But we are also a nation of laws."
-Bill Clinton, 1996

Everyone remembers that in 1986, President Ronald Reagan passed an "amnesty" law. But what most people don't know is that in 1996 — fresh off the heels of signing welfare reform, and two years after signing the "crime bill" — President Bill Clinton signed a bill that overhauled immigration enforcement in the US and laid the groundwork for the massive deportation machine that exists today.

Both welfare reform and the crime bills Clinton signed have been relitigated during a contentious Democratic primary, but the 1996 immigration bill — the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act — hasn't.
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11515132/iirira-clinton-immigration

"We must not tolerate illegal immigration. Since 1992, we have increased our Border Patrol by over 35%; deployed underground sensors, infrared night scopes and encrypted radios; built miles of new fences; and installed massive amounts of new lighting. We have moved forcefully to protect American jobs by calling on Congress to enact increased civil and criminal sanctions against employers who hire illegal workers. Since 1993, we have removed 30,000 illegal workers from jobs across the country."
-Bill Clinton, 1996

You want more???

Michale

By: Michale

Michale — Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:24:07 +0000

Yes, please go on ...

OK, but remember.. YOU asked for it.. :D

Michale