Which brings up another point.

Our Revolution needs to have a theme song ...

And, it needs to have the support of a good portion of the artistic community.

[79] perfect!

Neilm: Sentir la Brûlure!

A more inclusive term is needed that does not reference party affiliation, I think ... the idea is to get all kinds of Americans on board with this.

And it kinda misses the whole 'anti-elite' vibe that propelled Bernie into the big game. The website gets to that eventually, but they might actually do better with a more radical tone:

"To restore financial Equality to America"

It's growing on me, too ...

People of the Word, Unite!

*supporting a new generation of progressive leaders

*empowering millions to fight for progressive change

*elevating the political consciousness

Support.Empowerment.Consciousness Raising. It's liberal, all right.

In the end, it's a progressive PAC with a ground game, or some sort of mobilization plan, like Obama's "Organizing for Action" (formerly, Organizing for America) aspires to be.

OFA's website describes their goal as "finding and training the next generation of great progressive organizers", so perhaps those organizers can then help Our Revolution to actually mobilize people, rather than just cash, to elect progressives. Or something.

Concerned Revolutionaries and Branders Renaming VV for America!

the Future

a better America

Struggle

Vision

Possibilities

Revolution

Democracy that works for everyone

Justice - Economic, Social

Reform - Campaign Finance

Equality

Renewal

Constitution

Seriously, when searching for the right name for an organization, you should start from the basics ...

What was the Sanderson revolution all about? What were the objectives. What were the methods. What were the top 10 key words? Making a list of the key words and phrases will help in the formation of the perfect name.

"Okay then, YOU do it." You get my point.

If you want to sponsor a revolution, you want your followers to be 1) inspired, and 2)willing to march into danger. "You do it" won't exactly win you recruits. Some alternative suggestions:

"All Together Now"
"Make America NICE again!"
"From each, according to their ability,
to each according to their need"
"Feel the Bern!"
"Catch Fire"
"Fire it up!"
"Bern it up!"
"Throwing bricks at Wall Street since 1968"
"Occupy America"
"Not your Father's Revolution"
"The Cat Herd Revolution"
"Bernie's Amazing Idea"
"The Everyone Project"

I could go on...

You're welcome to "You do it". I didn't promise it to them or trademark or anything. You could be the DIY Revolution.

He has a bit of the Paul Manafort stink on him...considering he was one of Manaforts leutenants...

So how about the 'Clover Revolution?' I like the sound of that.

And, It's Our Revolution would be IOR ... :)

Also enjoyed the article you linked to at [50]. Seems fairly dead-on. It tells me that Trump has 'softened' his way into trouble with his base, who are naturally suspicious of a fellow who, one day, out of the blue, says: 'my policy will be no different than Barack Obama's'.

There are some things you can't take back, and that's one of them.

Don't worry, Michale, I'm not predicting Trump's demise on this one issue, but, all in all, it's just another brick in the wall.

Some people say that Black Lives Matter made an error by not tacking Too on the end of their name. I think maybe it should be: It's Your Revolution.

Their slogan could be: You do it.

Otherwise, it could just be (We're Going To Sell Out) Our Revolution or Your Revolution (Is Dead).

You make a good point ... no, you make a very good point. :)

Your Revolution (YR)? Doesn't do a thing for me ...

I think we need a three-letter acronym.

"Specifically, “where Trump’s supporters see conspiracies, Clinton’s do not; where the Trumpenvolk fear immigrants, Clinton voters embrace them. And where Trump’s supporters express apprehension about their financial future, Clinton voters tend toward optimism.” "

https://psmag.com/a-clearer-portrait-emerges-of-trump-supporters-7929ba8992a5#.m8xtidoac

A good read.

I'm gonna go ahead and put a nix on that one.

If I never hear or see Pokémon again, it will be too soon.

From reading the NYT, it appears that the resigning complainers disagreed with his campaign tactics like running TV ads and it kind of sounds like he wasn't as much fun as a boss as they'd like.

I have to agree. Bernie clearly trusts JW.

This is the point that finally finished off GOPLifer (Chris Ladd). He watched as Ryan, McConnell, etc. admonished Trump's positions but then endorsed him.

Will they still play to Trump's audience once Trump is gone? I think they will, but will revert to the dog whistles that allow the Republicans Trump has repulsed back into the fold without feeling like bigots.

Thus I expect the Republican Party to fade slowly via demographics rather than quickly with a split. I'd be very surprised if any Republican candidate in the next 12 years gets over 15% of the African American vote or over 30% of the Latino vote for a long time, and they may have permanently lost their majority of educated white women. Add in a youth crisis for them and it is difficult to see how Ragin' Ted Cruz's All Conservative Crusade will win in 2020 unless Hillary really pratfalls. I mean really pratfalls, not just a dozen new conspiracies from the Alex Jones brigade.

Jeff Weaver for most disappointing.

Shouldn't Senator Sanders also get one of those or is Jeff Weaver acting solo on the set up of this new group?

BTW, do you know why Jeff Weaver is so despised by so many? And, wouldn't any of those reasons also be why they should equally despise Sanders himself?

I mean, how much time and thought goes into something as important as the name of such an entity? Am I the only one who thinks the name is intimately wound up with the prospective effectiveness of a group like this?

VV and OR ... good luck with those!

Yup. The Know-Nothings are back - this time causing havoc over the issue of immigration (rather than slavery and immigration).

Question is, when this is all over, will the Republican know-somethings of today have the cojones that their forefathers did: to split the party rather than accept a philosophy that they can't abide?

1. Every four years the ratio of women to men increases
2. Educated people are turned off by Trump's message

Educated is not equivalent to high income, but of course there is a strong correlation. It seems from a few of the more granular polls that the stat-heads pull apart that show less drop off for wealth than for education levels among whites.

However, my great friend who is an evangelical pastor (we couldn't be further apart in just about every political axis) told me that he and his wife were going to only vote for down ticket Republicans this year. This is a man who hosts fundraisers in his home with Jonah Goldberg etc. (I sometimes get verbal invites as a joke at lunchtime), and he can't stand Trump - he sees him as a fake Republican.

I think many, or even most, real Republicans, the ones who put time, money and effort into the Republican Party can't stand what Trump is doing to their party.

But that is the problem, it isn't the party of the people who invest in it - it is the party of Limbaugh, Hannity, Breitbart and Infowars now.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-may-become-the-first-republican-in-60-years-to-lose-white-college-graduates/

If you count just whites, females reached parity in college degrees only in 2014.

And blacks and hispanics have much lower percentages finishing four years of college than whites. In 2015, 32% of white males finished four years of college, while just 22% of black males and 14% of Hispanics finished 4 years of college.

Asians, by comparison, are the most highly educated segment of the population, with rates of four year college completion of 56.8% for males and 51.5% of females completing four year degrees.

Source: http://www.census.gov/hhes/socdemo/education/data/cps/historical/index.html

In the last twenty years, asians have dramatically shifted to democrats: in 1992, just 30% of asians voted democratic, but by 2012, that number had risen to 73%.

Source: http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/09/16/439574726/how-asian-american-voters-went-from-republican-to-democratic

But as David Wasserman at fivethirtyeight.com points out, "Even if Latino and Asian/other turnout were to plummet to zero, Democrats would still win the Electoral College 283 to 255 — despite losing the popular vote by 2.1 percentage points. That’s because Latino and Asian voters are heavily concentrated in non-competitive states like California, New York and Texas."

But even if Trump is able to gain an absolute super-majority of white male votes, it may not help him. As Wasserman points out: "In 1980, Ronald Reagan won 56 percent of all white voters and won election in a 44-state landslide. In 2012, GOP nominee Mitt Romney carried 59 percent of all white voters yet lost decisively."

Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-demographics-will-shape-the-2016-election/

That's a very interesting link.

But, it looks like what I heard turns out to be mostly true ...

I heard that Democrats have never won the white, college-educated vote and the stats in your link pretty much agree.

For instance, in 2008 and 2012, Obama won the college-educated vote but lost the white vote by similar margins. Not sure how you sort that out but it would appear to be a wash.

And, Kerry lost the college vote by 4% AND lost the white vote by 12%! Can't say that he won the white, college-educated vote.

Clinton is really the only one who you could say "won" both the white and college-educated vote but both were within the margin of error so not really a win but a draw.

It looks to me like what I heard one of the analysts on CNN say about the Democrats never winning the white, college-educated vote in a presidential election is correct.

And, so, I ask again ... why is that!!!?

No, Elizabeth, it isn't true, and I'm glad you brought it up, because it's a persistent lie that keeps coming up.

In 2008 and 2012, Obama won the College Educated vote by about 10%, and those with Postgraduate degrees by 30%.

Kerry lost the College grads by 4%, but carried the Postgrads by 6%.

Gore lost College grads by 5%, Nader took 3%. Gore carried Postgrads by 10%, Nader to 4% of those.

Bill Clinton took the College grads by 2% in 1992 and 1996. Perot took 8% of College grads in 1996, and a whopping 17% of College grads in 1992.

Draw your own conclusions. The Chart I've just referenced can be found at:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/139880/election-polls-presidential-vote-groups.aspx

PS. Looking at these numbers, it seems the most reliably predictive group are those with some college, who seem to have gone with the winner each time, but whether that's a 'bandwagon' effect, I don't know.

You mean, like Hillary did on gay marriage?? NAFTA??? Crime Legislation?? TPP?? DOMA?? College Tuition?? "Super Predators"???

Funny how when Trump does it, it's called "flip flop"...

When Crooked Hillary does it, it's called "evolving"...

:D

Michale

Or, more accurately, Clinton can't talk herself up.. She can't crow about her accomplishments or her competence because she has neither..

So the ONLY option Clinton has is to attack Trump to try and obfuscate the FACT that she is the most incompetent, the most ethically challenged candidate in the history of US Elections...

Michale

CW, admin note.. Ya might have missed it before, but the system has a problem with national and review .com when it's all together..

And above, JFC found that 'basino' (with a 'c') trips the NNL filters...

Just FYI...

Michale

Donald Trump says that the same experts and pollsters who incorrectly predicted that British voters would vote to stay in the European Union are now dismissing his chances to win the White House. That’s mostly true. Before the Brexit vote, PredictWise, a website that aggregates data on the likelihood of events, found that there was a 21 percent chance of its being approved. Early on the night of June 23, when Britons voted, it pinned the chances of Brexit’s passing at only 12 percent. Over the last month, PredictWise has placed Trump’s chances of winning at between 19 percent and 30 percent. Other American prediction outlets give Trump only a 15 to 25 percent chance of victory.
http://tinyurl.com/zul3cvo

Michale

Donald Trump says that the same experts and pollsters who incorrectly predicted that British voters would vote to stay in the European Union are now dismissing his chances to win the White House. That’s mostly true. Before the Brexit vote, PredictWise, a website that aggregates data on the likelihood of events, found that there was a 21 percent chance of its being approved. Early on the night of June 23, when Britons voted, it pinned the chances of Brexit’s passing at only 12 percent. Over the last month, PredictWise has placed Trump’s chances of winning at between 19 percent and 30 percent. Other American prediction outlets give Trump only a 15 to 25 percent chance of victory.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439382/donald-trump-predictions-experts-wrong-brexit-might-be-wrong-trump

Michale

Tanks.... And planes!!! :D

Heh, that never gets old... :D

Michale

Democrats clearly haven’t served blacks well, and more of the same isn’t going to help. If blacks are willing to listen to Trump, his logical arguments may have a real chance of winning them over.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/25/sorry-hillary-trumps-policies-are-clearly-better-for-blacks/

Michale

A successful businessman who has shown COMPETENCE..

As opposed to Hillary Clinton who can't name a SINGLE worthwhile accomplishment and who has created shitstorms and hellholes where ever she has tried to "help"...

Syria, Russia, Libya, Benghazi, etc etc etc...

Monuments to Hillary's utter incompetence in the area of foreign policy...

Michale

Yea, I guess the "VAST RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY" fear mongering just wasn't working anymore...

So Hillary needed to create a new bogey man to fear-monger with.. :D

Michale

Does that mean ya'all are going to get serious and talk about issues rather than just go with childish personal attacks and immature name-calling???

Now that the Orange One has pivoted to being in favor of amnesty, I guess the media can stop pretending that he's not a politician. Politics is really the only explanation for his strategy of lying to his thugchumps to get through the primaries and then go full Rmoney RINO after he's nominated.

Apparently not.... :^/

Michale

I know I'm a news junkie, but are there really people out there who don't know the Trump highlights (imitating the disabled reporter, Judge Curiel, insulting the Gold Star parents, etc.)?

I went to see Liverpool FC play in one of their warm up games in San Jose. The row behind was populated by 6-7 late 20's to early 30's guys from Fresno (Central Valley, typically the more conservative part of California). One of them repeatedly shouted "Sit Down" and "Go back to Univision" at opposing players or the referee if he disagreed with the call. It took me a couple of times to catch the reference (the Trump/Ramos news conference was over a year ago now - can you believe that?). One year on and this meme was still going strong. These guys were no problem, and we were bantering away about the game with them, but they didn't seem the news junkie types.

Source: https://goplifer.com/2015/09/17/blueprint-for-republican-reform-new-voters/

The whole article is worth a read - it looks like Trump or one of his trusted insiders read it also and he is trying to emulate the "make white voters think the black community don't think we are racist" technique (as CW points out in the article). Of course, this was far easier for Rauner because he has no history of making racist statements, and is generally a good guy even if you don't like his policies.

GOPLifer (well, not any more, Trump is making him vote for Hillary!) worked as a Republican precinct committeeman and had an insiders view of the Rauner campaign (Rauner is the governor of Illinois - quite a win for Republicans).

Am I the only one who finds Trump's TelePrompTer performances wholly surreal?

BTW, did you know that Tim Geithner is a big proponent of the Estate Tax.

It's just one think a lot of people don't know about him ...

Kaseeno nation.

BTW - I believe that The One Who Watches Words does not like the one that I've misspelled.

I just heard that Democrats have never won the white, college-educated vote in a presidential election.

Is that correct? And, if so, why??

That conjures an image of one of those orange clown fishes out of water, but do fish get dangerously obese like Trump? They probably don't recognize KFC & McD's as food.

Looking forward to the debates -- and yeah, Al Frankin would be an excellent sparring partner, both because he's quick-witted and because he probably could give her advice about HOW to handle surprises after he delivers them.