perpetually.

"Yes. That IS what they say."
-Dr Daniel Jackson, STARGATE SG1-Continuum

:D

And yet, I nearly ALWAYS seem to have the facts on my side.. :D

Michale

Quantum Of The Seas??
Algoma Equinox???
Hawk??

Yes, you are wrong....I am not OK with it now and I won't be OK with it ever,

I'll remind you of that when the Democrat Party does it.. :D

But it's funny... Several times, Democrats sued President Bush....

Didn't hear a peep from the Left Wingery over that.. Granted you weren't here at the time.. But would you have opposed it like you oppose the GOP??

I kinda doubt it.. :D

So why is different from Scalia?

Because Scalia never attacked a denigrated a Presidential Candidate during an election..

NO SCOTUS Justice has ever done that...

RGB has realized this and she walked back her comments. But it's too late..

I am looking for Mighty Ships Season 9 Ep 3...

I'll see what I can do..

Michale

perpetually.

Human beings have neither the aural nor the psychological capacity to withstand the awesome power of God's true voice. Were you to hear it, your mind would cave in and your heart would explode within your chest. We went through five Adams before we figured that one out.
~dogma

I have perused the seamy underbelly of the interwebs...but what the hey.

I am looking for Mighty Ships Season 9 Ep 3...

Am I wrong???

Yes, you are wrong....I am not OK with it now and I won't be OK with it ever, since it signals the walking turdbags called congresscritters have again failed to do the job they were elected to do and will be relying on judicial activism to do it for them.

Because she has compromised herself and proved she can't be objective.. Even DEMOCRATs are saying she stepped over a line that shouldn't be crossed by a SCOTUS Justice...

So why is different from Scalia? or is your whole argument that it's ok to go hunting with the vice president and then sit in judgement on a case directly involving him , but, if you say something negative about your anointed POTUS choice it is not. Either way they both are subject to compromise...

If that was relevant to anything, I would respond..

But it's not, so I won't...

Cheney v. United States District Court, 542 U.S. 367

Michale

No, it's EXACTLY the same..

The ONLY difference is that, when the DEMCORATS do it, ya'all will be PERFECTLY OK with it.. :D

Am I wrong???

"Yer not wrong."
-God

:D

Why exactly?

Because she has compromised herself and proved she can't be objective.. Even DEMOCRATs are saying she stepped over a line that shouldn't be crossed by a SCOTUS Justice...

Scalia never recused himself from any cases involving his duck hunting buddy Cheney...

If that was relevant to anything, I would respond..

But it's not, so I won't...

Michale

Scalia never recused himself from any cases involving his duck hunting buddy Cheney...

Thank god the GOP started us down that road...don't worry I Gotcha, wink wink. I know it's different.

And RBG will have to recuse herself from all those cases...

Why exactly? Scalia never recused himself from any cases involving his duck hunting buddy Cheney...

Agreed..

And, I guess you think that Justice Ginsburg, regardless of her contrition, should recuse herself and ultimately resign if Trump is elected?

Well, that was half in jest.. The SCOTUS hears many cases that have nothing to do with the President or the Executive Branch...

But based on her statements, she cannot hear any case that would involve the President because she has already prejudiced herself against President Trump...

On the other hand, you just have to know that the Democrat Party is going to go apeshit and use the courts to challenge when President Trump takes pee...

And RBG will have to recuse herself from all those cases...

So, yea.. Maybe retirement is her best choice...

Michale

I guess what you're saying is that any case that the Supreme Court agrees to take up will, by definition, involve US Solicitor General who represents the United States government headed by the president of the United States.

And, I guess you think that Justice Ginsburg, regardless of her contrition, should recuse herself and ultimately resign if Trump is elected?

She might as well retire now....

Michale

Hope for the best? What else can we do?

Have ya'all really considered that Trump COULD win...

Especially when one considers how many possible events that could occur and favor Trump, increase TRUMP's numbers...

I mean, look at it..

A terrorist attack??? Favors Trump...

Attack on police officers. Favors Trump...

Illegal immigrant crimes, rapes, murders, etc etc.... Favors Trump...

All of these things are likely to occur between now and November and ALL of them will increase Trump's popularity....

I would be hard pressed to think of an event that is likely to occur and would favor Crooked Hillary...

So, I am left to wonder..

Have ya'all really thought about what ya'all will do when Trump wins???

Michale

Don't have the details yet....

White House Watch
White House Watch: Trump 44%, Clinton 37%

This is the third week in a row that Trump has held the lead, although last week he was ahead by a statistically insignificant 42% to 40%. This week’s findings represent Trump’s highest level of support in surveys since last October and show Clinton continuing to lose ground.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

I am beginning to come around to ya'all's way of thinking...

Polls are awesome!!!! Polls are the living end!!! :D

Michale

As long as the moratorium is universal and doesn't just apply to me. :D

Michale

SHOCK POLL: TRUMP 44% CLINTON 37%

Don't have the details yet....

As I said above, the momentum is with Trump... Clinton is on her way down, in no small part to Director Comey's scathing indictment of Clinton's competence and integrity... Or, in Clinton's case, lack thereof..

It's going to be hard for ya'all to see how low Hillary sinks..

If ya'all want to declare a moratorium on POTUS Election polls, I'll be happy to oblige ya.. :D

Michale

FACT:(as it pertains to this thread) no one mentioned a poll prior to you.

My apologies, GT..

(BLUE MOON!!!)
Hooray, beer!
http://gaia.adage.com/images/bin/image/rightrail/BlueMoonOld.jpg?1447789717

In THIS commentary, I did mention a poll first...

My bust...

Michale

A church might be able to help ya out with that.. :D

Michale

If you could give me the name, I might be able to locate it..

Michale

If I was part of "Ya'all" you would have a point...but...I'm not, so you don't.

You have never quoted or mentioned a poll???

Com'on.. I was born at night, but not LAST night... :D

FACT:(as it pertains to this thread) no one mentioned a poll prior to you.

Really???

"It is worthless to discuss polls in this short silly season between the clinch and the convention. Arguably there will be polls that show whatever we want them to...
-GT

"good trickle [47] you might have missed my Ode to the Polls in last Friday's comments section. I'm quite proud of it."
-Balthasar

Ya might want to get yer FACTS checked, thar pardner.. Looks like she's about to throw a shoe.. :D

Michale

You are quite useful... All though I might come back to this if none of my Vanco folks come through...

I could if I knew what you were talking about.

I'm useless. :(

Yes....Heh? Eh?

Can I ask a more personal favor? I worked on a project last year that was made into a show on Discovery Canada...They are about three years behind down below...I would love to see the final product before I let it loose here.

I am looking for a cable login for Bell or Shaw could you help ?

Would it be OK if I sent CW my email and he could pass along?

It was a really cool project and yes Canadians were involved...Thank God.

If it helps I do have A SIN...

Heh.

I still haven't figured out who he's talking about ...

If I was part of "Ya'all" you would have a point...but...I'm not, so you don't.

And I will keep mentioning polls that say what ya'all DON'T want to hear, to show ya'all the futility of mentioning on polls...

And I will keep mentioning polls that say what I perceive as what ya'all DON'T want to hear, on my own volition, to show ya'all the futility of mentioning on polls... There I fixed it for you.

FACT:(as it pertains to this thread) no one mentioned a poll prior to you. B-sar (gives it a little p-funk in the trunk feel) mentioned rebuttal polls. I made my comment... you rebutted.

No matter how you slice it out of the four remaining contestants in #sackofdicks2016 only one has named a VP. Jill Stein is (judging from her web site) is running the classic global Green party campaign , which to some extent works when running for local or state office but when running for the highest office in the land does not, Libertarian Johnson has named Bill Weld and is garnering serious media attention (albeit albeit at a glacial pace like Sanders, could be too little too late) and could land on the debate stage. That leaves us with the Clintonator or the Trumpistator. Depending on who they pick who we arrive at the following:

For the purposes of this exercise... unless Stein nominates someone who motivates the greens are DOA...and unless Johnson gets the required 15% to be on the big stage for debates. JMHO.

Curtain 1: Just ONE of them picks the right person to motivate the electorate beyond the base and entices independents to move one way or the other thus leading to some real need for discussion and campaigning by the other..

Curtain 2: BOTH pick candidates that engage both bases AND energizes outside of the base causing the independents to split thus causing a crap shoot on election day considering neither of the lamestream candidates truly motivate younger voters to come out and vote.

Curtain 3: BOTH pick uninspiring candidates that fail to motivate beyond the base and to some extent turn off the base, thus making the election about who can get the base vote out the best on election day. Independents will not matter... again a crap shoot.

AFTER everyone has picked their nuts, err..I mean VP mates (reminds me of an old joke punchline " man it's crazy down here you live in between two nuts and an asshole...with a dick upstairs.) then that is when we will see who is voting for whom. Thus being OK to mention polls.

SOO that brings us back to where we started, my initial comment being spot on... you of course are free to do what you want...to intimate otherwise would be in violation of your rights.

Does it matter what state Don lives in?
Do you know what state he lives in?
Since I'm also not voting for Trump, is that a vote for HilRod?

It is worthless to discuss polls in this short silly season between the clinch and the convention. Arguably there will be polls that show whatever we want them to...

But polls will still be mentioned...

Ya'all will keep mentioning polls that say what ya'all want to hear...

And I will keep mentioning polls that say what ya'all DON'T want to hear, to show ya'all the futility of mentioning on polls...

"and so it goes and so it goes....."
-Billy Joel

:D

Michale

It is worthless to discuss polls in this short silly season between the clinch and the convention. Arguably there will be polls that show whatever we want them to...

But polls will still be mentioned...

Ya'all will keep mentioning polls that say what ya'all want to hear...

And I will keep mentioning polls that say what ya'all DON'T want to hear, to show ya'all the futility of mentioning on polls...

"and so it goes and so it goes....."
-Billy Joel

:D

Michale

I completely agree!!! :D

Michale

My diabolical plan is set into motion...

MMMMWWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:D

Michale

It is worthless to discuss polls in this short silly season between the clinch and the convention. Arguably there will be polls that show whatever we want them to...

Polls will only begin to become sort of useful after BOTH convention bumps and VP selections have been made. BOTH Lamestream candidates can really hand the election over to the other if the wrong VP choice is made.

A vote for Stein or Johnson is a de-facto vote for Trump... :D

Awesome, JFC!! Yer gonna propel Trump into the White House!!! :D

Whatta mensch... :D

Michale

But if you REALLY want to play with polls...

White House Watch: Trump 42%, Clinton 40%
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

But, if course, you won't LIKE *that* poll, so you just ignore it..

:D

Michale....

Some Americans think FAMILY is important..

MOST Americans will like how Trump is a family man and involves his family in this kind of decision...

I know, I know.... FAMILY, in the traditional sense, is an alien concept to the vast majority of the Left Wingery...

That much is obvious....

Michale

Oh, fun, we get to play polls again. Here are the latest General Election Match-ups:

So, we're back to polls, eh?? :D

OK, here's the story you DON'T want told..

Those +3 and +5 that Hillary is up??

That USED to be +33 and +25 just a little while ago..

Hillary is losing ground and losing ground at an accelerated clip....

So, yes.. Hillary is SLIGHTLY ahead right now.. But where will she be tomorrow, give the trajectory of her numbers..

And the day after that... and the day after that.....

:D

Michale

This is hysterical. I wonder if the interviews are being conducted in a boardroom, with dramatic lighting and video cameras running?

McClatchy/Marist: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein = Clinton 40, Trump 35, Johnson 10, Stein 5 - Clinton +5

Economist/YouGov: Trump vs. Clinton vs. Johnson vs. Stein = Clinton 40, Trump 37, Johnson 5, Stein 2 - Clinton +3

Thank you for playing.

what happens if unicorns poop rainbows? maybe if we send guy fawkes' kids to private school, people who never voted before will suddenly start. it's a wonderful thought but it ain't gonna happen anytime this century, because most people who don't vote are either ignorant or apathetic to begin with, and that's not likely to change. johnny manziel will be MVP before the greens and libertarians get those kinds of numbers.

JL

The movement-building phase of this race is over, dude. Go vote for Jull Stein if you want - your monumental mistake has been anticipated and accounted for by both campaigns.

Even if those Bernie supporters don't vote Trump, they WILL vote 3rd Party... in droves...

It's a shame.. In Bernie, the Demcorat Party had a real shot in defeating Trump...

But they opted for the Queen of the Establishment in an ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT election..

"GOOD CALL!!!"
-Jim Carrey, LIAR LIAR

Michale

The email controversy is taking a toll on Clinton

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article89191922.html#storylink=cpy

Worried yet?? :D

Michale

Just my opinion based on observation and facts.

It's not something the Leftist MSM would ever poll...

But why do you think Putin is being so aggressive in it's contacts with the US??

He never would have done that to this scale under Bush..

But Obama's a pussy and Putin knows he can push Obama around......

Just my opinion...

Michale

do you have foreign polling data to back up this assertion, or is it just your opinion?

http://gaia.adage.com/images/bin/image/rightrail/BlueMoonOld.jpg?1447789717

Hehehe :D

Oh,I get it!! It's a drinking game!!

Everytime I make a mistake, I am wrong and/or I apologize, every one guzzles a can/bottle/mug of beer!

Sheet, we'll hardly EVER get to drink!! :D

How about we guzzle every time I am right.. We'll be trashed by day's end!! :D

Michale

Mistakes that have costs people their lives..

Mistakes that have ruined countries...

That's like saying the captain of the Titanic (not first mate I.P. Freely) made a mistake....

libya was a mess after the fact, but getting rid of qaddafi was still a good thing.

But no one had a plan for the aftermath..

Isn't that what ya'all castigate and demonize the GOP for???

iran sanctions? chinese dissidents freed? the US reputation abroad was restored from all-time lows prior to clinton's tenure to now almost 70% positive. that's not coincidence, it's statecraft.

The US reputation is not "restored" in the accepted meaning of the term..

The US was feared and hated... Under Clinton and Obama, the US is hated and ridiculed..

That's not "restored" by any stretch of the definition..

AND clinton has shown that she learns from her mistakes,

Despite ALL the facts to the contrary....

Michale

Hooray, beer!

http://gaia.adage.com/images/bin/image/rightrail/BlueMoonOld.jpg?1447789717

yes. donald has never run a government at any level, and the steep learning curve would make all but certain a disastrous first term. perhaps by the second term he'd get his bearings, but that's far from certain.

However, what is NOT open for debate is the gross and incompetent mismanagement and lack of judgement that Hillary Clinton has exhibited time and time again..

not up for debate? says who? although she'd been a senator and first lady, state was hillary's first experience as a leader, and along with some successes she also made some mistakes.

libya was a mess after the fact, but getting rid of qaddafi was still a good thing. syria was headed toward rebellion regardless of what our diplomats might or might not have done, and russia got in the way of our doing more. in spite of the setbacks, clinton's time at state was mostly successful. bin laden? iran sanctions? chinese dissidents freed? the US reputation abroad was restored from all-time lows prior to clinton's tenure to now almost 70% positive. that's not coincidence, it's statecraft.

AND clinton has shown that she learns from her mistakes, so now she is even better prepared to be president than she was in 2008. she'll make a good president on day 1, not halfway through her second term.

JL

You're right.. I misspoke..

I apologize... (BLUE MOON!!!!!)

There IS a difference...

However, there are enough similarities to show that Trump WOULD be a successful POTUS if past performance indicates future performance...

I am sure you will disagree..

However, what is NOT open for debate is the gross and incompetent mismanagement and lack of judgement that Hillary Clinton has exhibited time and time again..

Libya is a shithole and THAT is a direct result of Clinton's actions..

Syria is a hellhole and THAT is a direct result of Clinton's actions...

About the ONLY action that Hillary can brag about is when she dodged sniper fire in Bosnia.... Oh... wait.....

Michale

that is wrong. running a government and running a business are extremely different.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntharvey/2012/10/05/government-vs-business/#4bbfe2702685

Michale

Thank you.... :D

Michale

Usually political Partys tack to the center at about this time of a General Election..

But the Demcorat Party is clearly moving further and further Left...

Which means it's all but a certainty that Trump will be our next President..

The big test for the Democrat Party is how they respond to (O)BLM... Will the go with representing the vast majority of Americans??

Or will the side with a racist hate group??

Michale

That's right.. I don't argue.. I debate...

And, more often than not, events prove me right...

Who was wrong about Trump and who was right?? Who was wrong about the 2014 mid-terms and who was right?? Who was wrong about Sanford and Ferguson and Baltimore and who was right??

Yea, every once in a while, I get it wrong...

Hillary indictment for one... Just can't seem to win with the SCOTUS either...

But that's the difference between myself and ya'all...

I have absolutely NO PROBLEM admitting I am wrong when the facts clearly show I am...

No one here, with a couple exceptions, can make that same claim...

So, yer right. I don't argue... I debate...

And, one way or another, I usually win... Mostly by forfeit, but a win is a win... :D

But enough about me.... :D

Michale

Being President is no different than running a business..

Trump has been successful at that.

Everything Hillary has touched has been a disaster..

"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."

~my 2 brain cells

Ahhhh, but would you want someone in there BESIDES Hillary??

obama and bush II both figured out how to be president in their second terms. in bush's case the course correction was too late to rescue his reputation. in obama's case it was just barely soon enough. but in both cases incredible amounts of first-term goodwill and faith were wasted for the sake of learning on the job.

Agreed..

Michale

doing the job of president requires someone who knows how to do the job of president. nixon, johnson, reagan, bush I and clinton all did. carter didn't. obama and bush II both didn't until it was too late. trump doesn't. hillary does.
~my 2 brain cells

Nice - nice is good. Nice is polite. Polite is good. Sometimes I don't feel like being either. I don't claim to be superhuman or saintly. I can only try. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail. Then I try some more.

And it's OK not to be nice to the enemy, right??? :D

Michale

"Hussein Odumbo" is sophomoric,

Of course you would say that.. Because you are ruled by your ideology..

For someone who HAS no ideology, such as myself, the are BOTH childish and sophomoric..

But since childish and sophomoric seems to be the rule rather than the exception......

When in Rome.... :^D

as well as being based on falsehoods.

Which "falsehoods" are those???

Hussein IS Odumbo's name..

And his ears ARE reminiscent of Dumbo.... Plus he REALLY is a moron... ISIS is the JV... ISIS is contained... STOOPID... Utterly stoopid

So, I am simply being factually accurate...

But I get it. FACTS stop at yer ideological line... :D

Michale

NO ONE with more than 2 brain cells to rub together could EVER be "PRO" Clinton...

Even JFC is not PRO Clinton...

Apparently, he has THREE brain cells.... :D

Michale

"Hussein Odumbo" is sophomoric, as well as being based on falsehoods.

Neither is nice, I'll give you that.

Why would wRong Paul's groupies vote for Stein rather than Johnson?

Yea...

And *I* get dinged for Hussein Odumbo...

No one has ANY moral foundation to ding me when they allow crap like that....

Double standard... Hypocrisy....

That's what it's all about....

Michale

Hatchets buried, fences being mended, diehards pouting in the corners. They will either join up or not; there's a point past which asking them is a waste of time. A chunk of Bernie's supporters were Ron Paulites and that means they're nucking futs anyway. They'll vote for Jill Stein. Polls looking more and more like those defections just won't matter.

[1] John: "day-glo orange lie generator" : priceless!

"I whole-heartedly support and endorse the system!!!"
-Bernie Sanders

Ya'all just HAVE to know how much I am laughing my ass off, right?? :D

Michale

Sanders is especially needed if down-ballot has a chance (House, States (Dems have a devilish Gov map)). Historically, he has ignored that perspective.

Let's hope Sanders can go from a tepid endorsement (see how she echoes my positions {whine like a teenager}, anti-Trump {but not quite pro-Clinton {whine with teenage angst}} to full-throated Trump=Bad.