Comments on: Paul Ryan's Dream Crushed http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/ Reality-based political commentary Sat, 23 May 2026 06:14:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-79056 nypoet22 Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:32:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-79056 From the kushner article: <b>the worst that his detractors can fairly say about him is that he has been careless...</b> EXTREMELY careless? [snark] oh wait, some people have actually gotten hurt (on-camera) as a direct result. that makes it negligence. also, the types of insults and direct incitement against ethnic minorities are not even remotely typical of politics (at least not the politics of this country in this century), which makes it gross negligence. [/snark] kushner's non-apology for the gross negligence of his father in law is weak sauce. but there was one worthy tidbit in the article: <b>The best lesson I have learned from watching this election from the front row is that we are all better off when we challenge what we believe to be truths and seek the people who disagree with us to try and understand their point of view.</b> JL p.s. has anyone read the article to which kushner was responding? http://observer.com/2016/07/an-open-letter-to-jared-kushner-from-one-of-your-jewish-employees/ From the kushner article:

the worst that his detractors can fairly say about him is that he has been careless...

EXTREMELY careless?

[snark]

oh wait, some people have actually gotten hurt (on-camera) as a direct result. that makes it negligence. also, the types of insults and direct incitement against ethnic minorities are not even remotely typical of politics (at least not the politics of this country in this century), which makes it gross negligence.

[/snark]

kushner's non-apology for the gross negligence of his father in law is weak sauce. but there was one worthy tidbit in the article:

The best lesson I have learned from watching this election from the front row is that we are all better off when we challenge what we believe to be truths and seek the people who disagree with us to try and understand their point of view.

JL

p.s. has anyone read the article to which kushner was responding?

http://observer.com/2016/07/an-open-letter-to-jared-kushner-from-one-of-your-jewish-employees/

]]> By: Friday Talking Points [399] — Stop All The Madness « Democrats for Progress http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78993 Friday Talking Points [399] — Stop All The Madness « Democrats for Progress Sat, 09 Jul 2016 08:54:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78993 [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...] [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...]

]]> By: Friday Talking Points — Stop All The Madness – Irascible Musings http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78953 Friday Talking Points — Stop All The Madness – Irascible Musings Sat, 09 Jul 2016 03:58:49 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78953 [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...] [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...]

]]> By: Friday Talking Points — Stop All The Madness | KJOZ 880 AM CALL IN TOLL FREE 1-844-880-5569 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78932 Friday Talking Points — Stop All The Madness | KJOZ 880 AM CALL IN TOLL FREE 1-844-880-5569 Sat, 09 Jul 2016 01:33:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78932 [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...] [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...]

]]> By: Friday Talking Points - Stop All The Madness - Democratsnewz http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78931 Friday Talking Points - Stop All The Madness - Democratsnewz Sat, 09 Jul 2016 00:48:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78931 [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...] [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...]

]]> By: Friday Talking Points — Stop All The Madness – Silver-Legacy http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78926 Friday Talking Points — Stop All The Madness – Silver-Legacy Sat, 09 Jul 2016 00:35:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78926 [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...] [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same “herding cats” problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan [...]

]]> By: ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points [399] -- Stop All The Madness http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78925 ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points [399] -- Stop All The Madness Sat, 09 Jul 2016 00:18:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78925 [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same "herding cats" problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan can't get his own [...] [...] of the House Republicans, Paul Ryan seems to be having exactly the same "herding cats" problem that so frustrated John Boehner. Ryan can't get his own [...]

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78845 Michale Fri, 08 Jul 2016 10:48:47 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78845 <I>This has got to be a new one... you're trolling yourself now? Heh.</I> Yea, that's one way of putting it. :) Another way is, it's a lesson on how one can gracefully admit when one is wrong.. This has got to be a new one... you're trolling yourself now?

Heh.

Yea, that's one way of putting it. :)

Another way is, it's a lesson on how one can gracefully admit when one is wrong..

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78835 Chris Weigant Fri, 08 Jul 2016 07:02:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78835 ListenWhenYouHear [9] - Sadly, SNL is on their summer break... won't be back until almost the end of election season... Michale [14] - This has got to be a new one... you're trolling <em>yourself</em> now? Heh. Couldn't resist. [16] - OK, now that was funny! Heh. TheStig [18] - My original title was longer, you're right, but I hadn't considered that one, I have to admit! I did ponder deeply whether it should have been "Ryan's Dream" or "Ryan's Dreams," but went with the singular in the end. Oh, the things wordsmiths waste time and energy on, eh? :-) -CW ListenWhenYouHear [9] -

Sadly, SNL is on their summer break... won't be back until almost the end of election season...

Michale [14] -

This has got to be a new one... you're trolling yourself now?

Heh.

Couldn't resist.

[16] -

OK, now that was funny!

Heh.

TheStig [18] -

My original title was longer, you're right, but I hadn't considered that one, I have to admit!

I did ponder deeply whether it should have been "Ryan's Dream" or "Ryan's Dreams," but went with the singular in the end. Oh, the things wordsmiths waste time and energy on, eh?

:-)

-CW

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78770 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:35:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78770 TS, Good thing for you that GODWIN *HAS* been repealed... Else, you wouldn't have anything to comment.. :D Michale TS,

Good thing for you that GODWIN *HAS* been repealed...

Else, you wouldn't have anything to comment.. :D

Michale

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78768 TheStig Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:30:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78768 It took about 5 seconds to snare this on Find A Meme AKA Google Images. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/img/charles/2015/12/08/LGF1935.jpg When der Donald says we is de master race We heil heil right in der Donald's face Not to love der Donald is a great disgrace So we heil heil right in der Donalds face Don't think it can't happen here. It took about 5 seconds to snare this on Find A Meme AKA Google Images.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/img/charles/2015/12/08/LGF1935.jpg

When der Donald says we is de master race
We heil heil right in der Donald's face
Not to love der Donald is a great disgrace
So we heil heil right in der Donalds face

Don't think it can't happen here.

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78767 TheStig Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:15:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78767 By the way, excellent summary CW. Were you tempted to go with the headline "Paul Ryan's Dream Raped and Strangled?" By the way, excellent summary CW. Were you tempted to go with the headline "Paul Ryan's Dream Raped and Strangled?"

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78763 TheStig Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:04:51 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78763 Paula 6 Unhinged doesn't do justice to that performance. The door was blown into the next county. Attention: audience members in the first four rows will get wet! Godwin's Law has been repealed. Trump is a teppic fresser. Paula 6

Unhinged doesn't do justice to that performance. The door was blown into the next county.

Attention: audience members in the first four rows will get wet!

Godwin's Law has been repealed. Trump is a teppic fresser.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78753 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:29:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78753 <I>Michale Michale...</I> <B>Pizza Pizza</B> -Little Ceaser's :D Michale Michale

Michale...

Pizza
Pizza
-Little Ceaser's

:D

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78751 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 11:04:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78751 <I>Boo hoo. Poor Paul. At least he'll be able to go on Trump TV and preach to all of his neo-nazi fans. Trump is too racist for some Republicans (not many), but not the speaker.</I> Of course, that's the hysterical bigotry of JFC and other Clinton sycophants and fanatics..... <B>Jared Kushner: The Donald Trump I Know</B> http://observer.com/2016/07/jared-kushner-the-donald-trump-i-know/ And then there are the FACTS and reality... Every time ya'all let JFC get away with such utter BS and actually ENCOURAGE it, you prove to all beyond ANY doubt that facts REALLY don't matter.... Which is kinda ironic, considering where ya'all are... :D Michale Michale... Boo hoo. Poor Paul. At least he'll be able to go on Trump TV and preach to all of his neo-nazi fans. Trump is too racist for some Republicans (not many), but not the speaker.

Of course, that's the hysterical bigotry of JFC and other Clinton sycophants and fanatics.....

Jared Kushner: The Donald Trump I Know
http://observer.com/2016/07/jared-kushner-the-donald-trump-i-know/

And then there are the FACTS and reality...

Every time ya'all let JFC get away with such utter BS and actually ENCOURAGE it, you prove to all beyond ANY doubt that facts REALLY don't matter....

Which is kinda ironic, considering where ya'all are... :D

Michale

Michale...

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78746 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:21:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78746 <I>Democrats will be decimated this election. It's going to be 2014 all over again...</I> Says the guy who stated unequivocally that Director Comey would recommend indictment of Hillary Clinton and/or senior staff.... :D Don'tcha'all just HATE it when I steal ya'all's thunder... :D Michale Democrats will be decimated this election. It's going to be 2014 all over again...

Says the guy who stated unequivocally that Director Comey would recommend indictment of Hillary Clinton and/or senior staff.... :D

Don'tcha'all just HATE it when I steal ya'all's thunder... :D

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78741 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:52:28 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78741 And it's thoroughly disgusting and contemptible that Democrats would block KATE'S LAW... Once again, Democrats prove that they are on the side of criminals and murderers and rapists and NOT on the side of Americans... Democrats will be decimated this election. It's going to be 2014 all over again... Michale And it's thoroughly disgusting and contemptible that Democrats would block KATE'S LAW...

Once again, Democrats prove that they are on the side of criminals and murderers and rapists and NOT on the side of Americans...

Democrats will be decimated this election. It's going to be 2014 all over again...

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78740 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:50:31 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78740 Well, I guess ya'all needed a ra-ra GOP IS SATAN, DEMS ARE AS PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW salve after ya'all's candidate just got ripped up one side and down the other... Who am I to stop ya'all from licking your wounds... :D Michale Well, I guess ya'all needed a ra-ra GOP IS SATAN, DEMS ARE AS PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW salve after ya'all's candidate just got ripped up one side and down the other...

Who am I to stop ya'all from licking your wounds... :D

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78738 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:44:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78738 <I>Donald, please stay true to yourself! Keep on being you, in all your narcissistic, unhinged glory!</I> Yaaaawwwwnnnnnn Another <B>TRUMP IS TOAST</B> prediction.. This is wha??? 14th?? 15th?? :D Michale Donald, please stay true to yourself! Keep on being you, in all your narcissistic, unhinged glory!

Yaaaawwwwnnnnnn Another TRUMP IS TOAST prediction..

This is wha??? 14th?? 15th?? :D

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78737 Michale Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:42:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78737 <I>Murphy and the Senate Democrats wanted votes on two bills -- one to mandate universal background checks and one to prevent those on the No-Fly List from buying guns. Republicans countered with their own bills which would have achieved very little,</I> Just like the Democrat bills would ALSO have achieved very little.. They are nothing but WOULDN'T IT BE NICE laws.. Michale Murphy and the Senate Democrats wanted votes on two bills -- one to mandate universal background checks and one to prevent those on the No-Fly List from buying guns. Republicans countered with their own bills which would have achieved very little,

Just like the Democrat bills would ALSO have achieved very little..

They are nothing but WOULDN'T IT BE NICE laws..

Michale

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78725 ListenWhenYouHear Thu, 07 Jul 2016 02:47:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78725 TheStig [5] Bravo! I have a feeling we will see that as an ad on SNL very soon! TheStig [5]

Bravo! I have a feeling we will see that as an ad on SNL very soon!

]]> By: ListenWhenYouHear http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78724 ListenWhenYouHear Thu, 07 Jul 2016 02:46:35 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78724 Paula [6 & 7] A little from column A, a little from column B! Paula [6 & 7]

A little from column A, a little from column B!

]]> By: Paula http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78723 Paula Thu, 07 Jul 2016 02:43:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78723 Or is it dementia? Or is it dementia?

]]> By: Paula http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78722 Paula Thu, 07 Jul 2016 02:36:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78722 And meanwhile, I'm reading Trump really, really lost it today in Cincinnati and CNN and MSNBC just kept the cameras rolling. A KOS diary, titled "Dear God Make it Stop" described it running on and on in the Atlanta airport where he was trapped. All the TV's were on CNN showing it. Apparently he just rambled and rambled and blew off his prepared remarks and the reporters are describing him as "unhinged". Donald, please stay true to yourself! Keep on being you, in all your narcissistic, unhinged glory! And meanwhile, I'm reading Trump really, really lost it today in Cincinnati and CNN and MSNBC just kept the cameras rolling. A KOS diary, titled "Dear God Make it Stop" described it running on and on in the Atlanta airport where he was trapped. All the TV's were on CNN showing it. Apparently he just rambled and rambled and blew off his prepared remarks and the reporters are describing him as "unhinged".

Donald, please stay true to yourself! Keep on being you, in all your narcissistic, unhinged glory!

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78721 TheStig Thu, 07 Jul 2016 02:22:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78721 Gretchen Carlson Pepper Spray. It's good for what Ailes you....Rodger that! Gretchen Carlson Pepper Spray. It's good for what Ailes you....Rodger that!

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78718 John From Censornati Thu, 07 Jul 2016 01:33:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78718 <i>The sad irony in all this (for Ryan) is that he may be in an even worse position after the election.</i> Boo hoo. Poor Paul. At least he'll be able to go on Trump TV and preach to all of his neo-nazi fans. Trump is <i>too</i> racist for some Republicans (not many), but not the speaker. BTW - I think that Gretchen Carlson has played her hand very badly. Trump will never hire her now that she's played the woman card. Outfoxed! The sad irony in all this (for Ryan) is that he may be in an even worse position after the election.

Boo hoo. Poor Paul. At least he'll be able to go on Trump TV and preach to all of his neo-nazi fans. Trump is too racist for some Republicans (not many), but not the speaker.

BTW - I think that Gretchen Carlson has played her hand very badly. Trump will never hire her now that she's played the woman card. Outfoxed!

]]> By: Paula http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78715 Paula Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:29:14 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78715 [1]Elizabeth: yep! [1]Elizabeth: yep!

]]> By: Speak2 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78712 Speak2 Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:17:23 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78712 Given that Trump was leading in the polls when Boehner quit, I wonder whether that played a significant factor in his decision. I didn't consider it at the time (thinking, like most, that Trump wouldn't last) but perhaps Boehner had a viewpoint that matched CWs. Perhaps he even read CW coming around to believing Trump could win and that had an affect (effect?). The Freedom Caucus won't even accept an NRA-endorsed bill. That's sadly funny. Given that Trump was leading in the polls when Boehner quit, I wonder whether that played a significant factor in his decision. I didn't consider it at the time (thinking, like most, that Trump wouldn't last) but perhaps Boehner had a viewpoint that matched CWs. Perhaps he even read CW coming around to believing Trump could win and that had an affect (effect?).

The Freedom Caucus won't even accept an NRA-endorsed bill. That's sadly funny.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/07/06/paul-ryans-dream-crushed/#comment-78710 Elizabeth Miller Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:07:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=12459#comment-78710 <I>Paul Ryan's dream of proving to the country that Republicans have a positive agenda for the future is slowly being crushed between Tea Party intransigence and Donald Trump's Twitter account.</I> Well, that notion that Republicans have a positive agenda that will move America forward was always a pipe dream, anyway, right? I mean, congressional Republican intransigence coupled with Trumpism aren't responsible for destroying Ryan's dream so much as exposing the substance of it as the nonsense it always was. Paul Ryan's dream of proving to the country that Republicans have a positive agenda for the future is slowly being crushed between Tea Party intransigence and Donald Trump's Twitter account.

Well, that notion that Republicans have a positive agenda that will move America forward was always a pipe dream, anyway, right?

I mean, congressional Republican intransigence coupled with Trumpism aren't responsible for destroying Ryan's dream so much as exposing the substance of it as the nonsense it always was.

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