I wear several hats.. One of them being the plucky comic sidekick

"I'm just a glorified extra, Fred."
"Maybe you are the plucky comic sidekick??"
"Plucky?? "
- Galaxy Quest

:D

Michale

What I really meant to say was that's your real purpose here, isn't it? Keeping it light. Heh.

:-)

I'll be here all year.. Be sure and tip your waitresses... :D

Michale

Okay, now THAT was funny ... practically fell off my chair.

It's all about judgement..

And, as is universally agreed by myself, Paula and even President Obama......

Hillary showed bad judgement...

If this was a one-off, then SOMETHING might be salvageable..

But Hillary's entire career is one bad call after another..

Russia, Libya, Benghazi, Black Lives Matter..... The list is endless...

Michale

Let me amend that to say Because no matter HOW you reasonably define it, I betcha 10,000 quatloos that I can prove you wrong.. :D

:D

Michale

Why is it not relevant, you ask??

I am glad you asked..

1. Colin Powell used a private email OCCASIONALLY.. He PREDOMINANTLY used his .gov email, except when there were issues, then he used his private one. Not the best choice, but you have to remember that it was a long time ago when email was not nearly as reliable as it is today and GOVERNMENT email even less so..

2. Colin Powell is not running for POTUS... We hold our POTUS candidates to a MUCH higher standard than we would a SecState from 20 years ago....

Michale

Well, finally. That is, at least, an admission of sorts. Indeed, it was a gutter from which she and her husband emerged 25 years ago.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/24/charles-hurt-hillary-clinton-fights-to-overcome-a-/

WOW.. Charles Hurt shouldn't beat around the bush. He should tell us how he REALLY feels about Hillary.. :D

Michale

I am also constrained to point out that the point of the polls is not what each individual poll says but rather what the totality of polls say about the momentum of the candidates..

8 months ago, Hillary was beating Trump 70-30... NOW the polls are mostly dead heats with some polls show Trump ahead of Hillary..

To a political agnostic (such as myself) that indicates that Hillary is sinking fast and Trump is rising fast..

If this momentum continues (which there are MANY reasons to expect it will) then Hillary simply can't win...

Michale

To Bernie supporters... yes..

This far out, ANY polling is pretty much meaningless when it come to who is going to win the General Election in November.

I know.. That's what I was saying when ya'all crowed about Hillary KILLING Trump in polls 6-12 months ago.. :D

But NOW it's relevant, right?? :D

National polling AVERAGES only begin to accurately reflect who will win the Presidential November election only 2 to 3 months before the election.

Funny how THAT is now the official word on polls... When HILLARY starts losing them... :D

I find that knee-slappin' hysterically funny... :D

Michale

Define "recently"... Because no matter HOW you define it, I betcha 10,000 quatloos that I can prove you wrong.. :D

granted it's a low bar to set, but that's what we seem to be reduced to.

Complete agreement...

Michale

I don't read KOS if I can help it.. Just like I don't read Limbaugh if I can help it..

Colin Powell will be interviewed a few times.

Assumes facts not in evidence...

Michale

First [50]: My apologies Elizabeth. I'm still figuring out the tags.

I pardon you. :)

"In the here and now, Clinton is not ideologically acceptable to Bernie supporters.. Trump is closer to Bernie than Clinton can ever hope to be.."

Trump is more ideologically closer to that "socialist" Bernie Sanders? And if the reliable right wing voters like the Tea Party etc. who would rather have had Ted Cruz find this out, will they hold their nose and vote for Trump, stay home, or vote for the Libertarian Presidential Candidate? Perhaps in the same or even greater numbers thane the Bernie supporters who will vote for Trump. Sounds like a WASH to me at best.

"Add to the fact that all the polls are starting to show that Hillary LOSES against Trump.... :D"

This far out, ANY polling is pretty much meaningless when it come to who is going to win the General Election in November. Especially national polling, since everything is pretty much a state by state contest due to the Electoral College. For example, Barack Obama and John McCain were tied in national polls a year before the 2008 election. But in November, Obama went on to win by over 7 percentage points. National polling AVERAGES only begin to accurately reflect who will win the Presidential November election only 2 to 3 months before the election.

now that is a very strange turn of phrase. at the very least, hillary can probably tell the difference between a verbal "punch" and an actual physical assault. she's the only remaining candidate whose supporters haven't physically assaulted anyone recently. granted it's a low bar to set, but that's what we seem to be reduced to.

JL

Next: Mike, you apparently didn't read the whole KOS article before dismissing it. Nothing's going to come of this. Nuthin. Limbaugh can rant all he wants, it won't muss a hair on Hillary's head. Hillary is glad that the State IG has wagged his or her finger now rather than later, and that's about it. Colin Powell will be interviewed a few times.

If Democrats aren't sweating, then they're in denial....

Michale

OK... I'll see your Daily KOS and raise you a Rush Limbaugh... :D

Michale

The report was critical of all the recent SOS's -- appears the whole system/process needs to be figured out so that SOS's can reasonably comply. Because all of them (the worst being Colin Powell) breached the rules in different ways. AND: THIS IS STILL NOT YOUR HOPED-FOR SMOKING GUN!

Got work to do. No more this afternoon from me.

Apparently, someone forgot to tell the State Department IG.. :D

You HAVE read his report, right??? :D

Michale

Those who say that Bern'ers won't swing wide for Trump are just engaging in wishcasting....

Michale

That plan hasn’t been limited to simply grinding the gears of Congress to a complete halt. As we’ve seen with both President Clinton and Obama, it has also meant an attempt to tie the administration up in an endless array of scandal investigations. We’re witnessing some of those fevered conspiracy theories from the Clinton administration re-surface now that Hillary is running for president. But it all started during the 1992 campaign and took various turns from the moment they entered the White House with tales about travel-gate, file-gate, whitewater-gate, etc. The naming of these conspiracy theories indicates that Republicans never got over the impeachment of President Nixon that began with the break-in at Watergate. The search was to find something that could take down a president the way Nixon’s behavior led to his resignation. With Clinton, that never materialized until Republicans felt like they’d found their load star in an affair he had with a White House intern and lied about. That was the best they could do. But they put the entire country through an excruciating process that will go down as one of the ugliest moments in our history.

Michale and his ilk will insist all the fake scandals were real, but they weren't. They were part of an extended and extremely expensive fishing operation, the big payoff of which was Monica Lewinsky. But, as Michale so constantly illustrates, when repubs do something rotten, somehow, somewhere, there must be a Dem who did something bad too, because repubs have to have the last word and can't be in the wrong. And certainly can't be responsible. If the devil didn't make them do it, some liberal did. They, themselves, are mere robots who respond to the nefariousness of others -- they never take action on their own. But they deserve to lead the world doncha know...

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2016_05/the_most_important_legacy_of_b060642.php

When you can rationally and logically address comments #70, #71 and #73, then you might have a case...

But don't tell me, let me guess.. I obviously don't want to have a serious conversation about this...

Am I close?? :D

Michale

I think you are misinformed, Michale.

And, your evidence to support this statement is... What exactly???

It's well documented how Hillary treated Bill's sexual assault victims...

And, since it's Hillary herself who said that all sexual assault victims should be believed......

well, there ya god...

Paula,

He won't be able to tell you anything real about why he hates Hillary, he will just shoot out junk slurs. Make my words.

I already have posted one of the reasons why I hate Hillary...

Until Madam President is sworn in

Ain't gonna happen.. You mark my words...

"Consider them marked..."
-Leftenant Norrington, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN

:D

Michale

Root and branch. He has swallowed everything with the characteristic Michale thoroughness -- he's not merely wrong on facts he is deeply, intensely wrong. He will gleefully replay every old record from the 1990's -- the records that launched the careers of so many media whores, liars and professional haters.

He won't be able to tell you anything real about why he hates Hillary, he will just shoot out junk slurs. Make my words.

Until Madam President is sworn in he will peddle debunked nonsense -- only after she starts her first term will his material change -- it will be whatever new fake scandal the righties can come up with. He'll enjoy that. By then even he will be tired of the retreads.

After one of the 2011 hack attempts Mrs. Clinton’s tech staffer shut the server down for a few minutes, hoping that would solve the situation, but quickly warned top aides not to send Mrs. Clinton “anything sensitive” after the attempted breach, according to the report, which was obtained by The Washington Times.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/25/hillary-clinton-failed-report-several-hacking-atte/

Neil, wasn't it you who told me the joke about the mechanical engineer, the electrical engineer and the software programmer all riding in a car???

Apparently, that software engineer works for Hillary Clinton.. :D heh

Michale

Our country is really divided, says the Univision anchor who gave a commencement speech partially in spanish, thereby dividing the crowd into spanish-speaking and non-spanish-speaking people..

The hypocrisy is so blatant and ingrained, these morons don't even know they are doing it! :^/

Michale

So much for Hillary's claim that she is willing to talk to anyone to put this matter behind her..

Of course, the obvious conclusion is that she doesn't want to get caught telling different stories... One story to the State IG and a different story to the FBI....

Michale

“Therefore, Secretary Clinton should have preserved any Federal records she created and received on her personal account by printing and filing those records with the related files in the Office of the Secretary,” the report states. “At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department business before leaving government service and, because she did not do so, she did not comply with the Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-inspector-general-report-223553#ixzz49g2k6DRI

"Rules are for thee and not for me..."
-Hillary Clinton

Michale

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/building-robot-mcdonalds-staff-cheaper-8044106

That's what the result is going to be..

Michale

Also keep in mind that, in 2008, the election DID turn on "something new" rather than the status quo....

Playing Mark Pellegrino's advocate here, THAT didn't end very well, so.......

Michale

Hay now!!! Let's not be sayin' things we can't take back!!! :D

Seriously though.. Which Balthasar???

The commenter or the angel??? :D

"Honey, before we go, if you like I can remove that stick that's in your ass?? No?? OK, we'll leave it in place then.."
-Balthasar, SUPERNATURAL, My Heart Will Go On

:D

Michale

Oh, of course she didn't SAY it..

But she DID do it..

And, isn't that the important part??

How can you support someone who moved to DESTROY sexual assault victims???

Michale

For example.....?????

Michale

Heh.

Comment #10 was, ultimately, expressing a very optimistic sentiment.

But, I'll try to calm down, anyway. :)

I seriously doubt that Hillary said what you went so far as to quote her as saying.

You're as bad as Balthasar!

Well, I'd caution restraint. It'll all hinge on what Bernie says after he loses on 6/7.

IF he loses on 6/7... :D

If he wins, then it's all going to hinge on what Hillary says or does after HER loss...

If you need confirmation, I can look up my endorsement of Edwards, 8 years ago, but I have to admit it came too late to do any good for his campaign....

No need.. I only mention it because I have tried ta tie ya down on many occasions.. :D

I can picture her being a gracious winner a lot easier than I can picutre her being a gracious loser, that's for sure...

Word.....

Much as I hate to admit it, you've put your finger on it: this election might turn on "something new" versus "status quo" -- one guess as to who is "status quo" in that makeup....

I get one right now and again.. :D

To everyone: Hey this all is fun but I'm going to the Democratic National Convention!!! Woo hoo! Should be a guaranteed interesting time for all...

WOOT!!!!! Pics or it didn't happen...

"Pics or it didn't happen?? If you can't score at a reproductive rights convention, you simply can't score!"
-Charlie Bradbury, SUPERNATURAL

:D

Michale

It's not clear that HilRod will have to do anything to the Orange Thing. He was unable to accuse Bill of rape without gratuitously insulting the women in question.

Funny how you don't condemn the violence of Hillary supporters..

Why is that??

Michale

(with apologies to Gil Scott-Heron, of course): The revolution will not be blogged.

neilm [5] -

What I should have said was: "Pull the wool over your OWN eyes." Heh. Just a shout-out for all the Sub-Geniuses™ out there....

Speak2 [8, 9] -

Well, I'd caution restraint. It'll all hinge on what Bernie says after he loses on 6/7.

LizM [10] -

In the language of your fellow Canadians: "Calme-toi." Things will work out OK. It'll all be OK in the end, at least that's what I have to believe at this point....

Michale [19] -

Perhaps way too late, I have now stated my intentions to vote for Bernie in our primary (which is 2 weeks away, still). So I've belatedly put my own marker down -- much as I did for John Edwards in 2008, after he had any chance of winning.

Michale [19] -

Oh, yeah, there were indeed comments about 1968 back in 2008. Look them up, they're there.

And call me timid, but I did sort-of-kind-of endorse John Edwards back in 2008, in the same fashion I am sliding into a half-assed endorsement of Bernie Sanders this year. I like to keep my objectivity at maximum throughout the primary season, but at some point I have to admit in print how I am personally going to vote. That point has now arrived. I will be happily voting for Bernie, but having said that, I fully expect the Dem nominee to be Hillary Clinton. And I'll vote for her in November, although less happily, I fully admit.

If you need confirmation, I can look up my endorsement of Edwards, 8 years ago, but I have to admit it came too late to do any good for his campaign....

Michale [20] -

I can picture her being a gracious winner a lot easier than I can picutre her being a gracious loser, that's for sure...

Heh.

Don Harris [21] -

Leaving the Jill Stein option out of this article wasn't so much an oversight as a simplification. Didn't want to introduce the option, and got (rightfully) slammed about the lack of the option both here and over on HuffPost.

Mea culpa. Should've mentioned it....

Michale [24] -

Much as I hate to admit it, you've put your finger on it: this election might turn on "something new" versus "status quo" -- one guess as to who is "status quo" in that makeup....

Don Harris [27] -

That may indeed be the formula which proves correct! Well done!

:-)

Michale [31] -

This is actually a good point -- how far will Hillary go to court Bernie voters? That, right now, is an open question...

Paula [46] -

I belive it is "Krakken"... but then, what do I know?

Heh.

:-)

To everyone: Hey this all is fun but I'm going to the Democratic National Convention!!! Woo hoo! Should be a guaranteed interesting time for all...

:-)

-CW

The blatant hypocrisy that allows this rhymes-with-witch to say, "All sexual assault victims should be believed.. Well, except for the victims of my husband. THOSE victims should be destroyed"

What *I* don't get is how ANY sane intelligent person can support someone like Hillary...

Hillary epitomizes everything the Left Wingery is against...

She is to the RIGHT of Trump on war mongering, fer chreest's sake!

Michale

Not to rain on your parade (well, not MUCH anyways :D ) But the Destroy Donald effort commenced the day that Trump announced his candidacy..

And not only is Trump still standing, he is way WAY stronger...

The Left's only hope was that Trump would show he wasn't POTUS material and had to fight the Right as much as the Left..

That just ain't happening..

Hillary is going to face a UNITED GOP being led by a guy who knows no bounds of decency towards his opponent when it comes to campaigning..

There is NOTHING that Trump won't drudge up.. There is NOTHING that will be out of bounds...

And Hillary has already stated for the record that she won't go there..

Hillary doesn't stand a chance..

Michale

Actually, what Trump said is that McCain wasn't a "hero" because he was captured..

Funny thing is, if one actually THINKS about it, rather than hysterically attacking, it's a true and factual statement...

{{cough}} {cough} Berghdal {cough}

Michale

Enjoy it.. Because it's the ONLY time you are going to hear it. :D

Michale

That's all it takes to throw Hillary into the gutter where she belongs...

Where does that kind of hatred come from?

The blatant hypocrisy that allows this rhymes-with-witch to say, "All sexual assault victims should be believed.. Well, except for the victims of my husband. THOSE victims should be destroyed"

Is that specific enough?? :D Because, if not, I have plenty more...

Michale

Elizabeth Miller did not write that.

Michale,

Where does that kind of hatred come from?

You know where. It's from a dark place, and it's fed by the Media, by computer-aided gerrymandering, by campaign consultants, by leaders like Trump and Sanders who fail to step in and stop their own followers from acting like mobs. When 'intensity' is determined to be the difference between winning and losing, we lose, because the most intense emotions are love, fear and hate, and nobody loves anybody 'round here these days, except Bernie, who lately seems to love himself most of all...

That's all it takes to throw Hillary into the gutter where she belongs...

Where does that kind of hatred come from?

And while you and the rest of the righties will try to re-litigate all the old scandals, we'll be enjoying all the new Donald scandals. On the Hillary/Bill side, there's never any there there. On the Donald side, there's plenty.

Unleash the Krakon! Kraken?

Madame President...I love the sound.

Bill Clinton's Sexual Assault Victims..

Michale

And ya'all have already discarded him..

Michale

Michale

Except for the fact that Hillary stated that she is not going to respond to Trump at all... :D

Won't release his tax returns.

And Hillary won't release the speech transcripts...

What's yer point???

Who would believe a word out of this guys mouth?

Apparently, 40% of Democrats..

Ya'all are starting to sweat... I see it... :D

Michale

Won't release his tax returns.

Forbes (a very right wing rag) puts his net worth at less than half Trump boasts about.

"Self-funded" his campaign with loans that he can claim back if he can get other money

Lied about how much he raised for Veterans.

Sucking up to the Rep. big money guys.

Who would believe a word out of this guys mouth?

HOPE being the operative word there..

We know how well Obama's HOPE worked out for Democrats...

Do you honestly believe their are going to be fooled again???

Michale

And Bernie supporters will want their asses MAJORLY kissed to support Hillary...

If Hillary won't do that, then guess what...

Michale

The ruling comes in a lawsuit filed by voting rights attorney Marc Elias -- who is also the general counsel of the Hillary Clinton campaign -- on behalf of The Ohio Organizing Collaborative and individual voters in the state.

Last year I remember reading the Clinton Campaign or folks connected to it had started working on voter suppression efforts in different states and I was thrilled to hear it. It has just paid off in Ohio.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/ohio-voting-golden-week-ruling

Yep. Self-funded "billionaire" Sockpuppet Trump is just a puppet.

Touche' :D

Michale

There wasn't much ideological difference between Clinton and Obama so, for Clinton supporters once they got over the initial hatred, there was a "fit"....

There is not going to be that "fit" between Clinton and Bernie supporters....

The ONLY way Bernie supporters are going to go Clinton is if Clinton charms them...

And we saw how "charming" Clinton was in Nevada and elsewhere...

Clinton is going to have to kiss some MAJOR ass to swing Bern'ers over to her side..

The question is.... Is Hillary willing to kiss major ass???

Michale

:D

Michale

But what does the public find more shameful? Is it the businessman who looks after his own interests, using government to smooth his real-estate business and casino interests? Or the government official, who prostitutes the public offices she uses, not only for personal gain, but sometimes in ways that work to legitimize human-rights abusers in Africa, or enrich shady Middle Eastern business concerns, or give Russian companies greater access to weapons material?

Assumes facts not in evidence... :D

Michale

Yea?? Which corporate interest block is backing Trump?? Or Sanders for that matter??

While trump has done a good job of marketing himself as anti status quo the reality is vastly different. The advisers he has named so far are GOP standard bearers for that interest block, the beginning of his big money fundraising parties and don't forget about the endorsements from some of the mega donor camp should all be giving cause for one to think about what they will be getting with trump.

The difference being is that NONE of those corporate interests backed Trump until very recently..

Trump got to where he is NOT BEHOLDEN to those interests..

Clinton can't say the same thing..

Michale

Yea... Hillary is a winner.... NOT...

Michale

None of the CST trio are Anti-Establishment they simply are being backed by different corporate interest blocks. When it comes to anti status quo I think Saunders is the clear winner there.

While trump has done a good job of marketing himself as anti status quo the reality is vastly different. The advisers he has named so far are GOP standard bearers for that interest block, the beginning of his big money fundraising parties and don't forget about the endorsements from some of the mega donor camp should all be giving cause for one to think about what they will be getting with trump.

And Trumpster rhymes with Dumpster :D

Michale

Bernie is closer to Trump in the only way that matters in the 2016 Presidential Election..

Clinton represents the status quo... The Establishment.. The same ol same ol way of doing things..

Bernie and Trump are the Anti-Status Quo.. The Anti-Establishment.. The Anti-Same Ol Same Ol

That is going to appeal to a LARGE percentage of Bernie supporters...

If they can't have The Bernster, they will go with the Trumpster...

Michale

That's an excellent point..

In 2008, Obama was ideologically acceptable to Clinton supports.. Besides, if Clinton supporters can't WOW their friends with the fact that they voted for a WOMAN, they can WOW their friends with the fact that they voted for a black guy....

In the here and now, Clinton is not ideologically acceptable to Bernie supporters.. Trump is closer to Bernie than Clinton can ever hope to be..

Michale

That entire premise is based on one thing and one thing alone..

Hillary being a gracious winner..

I just can't see that happening...

Michale

Perish the thought.. :D

The convention, they all confidently predicted, would be contentious and possibly even violent. The spectre of 1968 was trotted out.

See, I don't remember that. And I DO read a lot of the comments sections, as ya might imagine..

I honestly don't remember anyone of any import (certainly not a Senior California Senator) invoking 1968...

Things are way worse now then back then.. Even the racism accusations of 2008 are comparable to the sexist accusations in the here and now...

But how many of them will still feel that way in November? That is really the more important question than how many Bernie supporters feel that way now. Time is a great healer of wounds, and Donald Trump is not exactly John McCain.

Yea... Trump is actually EXCITING... Trump is the TRUEST definition of a Maverick....

Three things are really going to have to happen, if the BOB movement is to be defused. The first is that Hillary Clinton is going to have to be as magnanimous in victory as Barack Obama was, back in 2008.

Exactly!!!! EXACT-A-MUNDO!!!!

GRACIOUSNESS....

Hillary needs to reach deep down inside and find something that she has NEVER displayed before..

Grace...

Not this Kick-Em-In-The-Balls-While-Their-Down-And-Take-No-Prisoners attitude she has had to date...

I say this as a person who will be casting his vote for Bernie in California two weeks from now, I should mention.

Color me surprised.. And impressed.. Not that you are feeling the Bern but that you actually went on record..

Not to put too fine a point on it, I do believe this is a first, CW.. :D

If Clinton is seen as giving Bernie due deference at the convention,

And THAT is a big 'IF'.. A YUUGE Alaska-sized IF...

Michale

Hillary better reach way deep down inside her to find some grace or Philly will Bern....

"Listen, will you just take a minute and dig deep for a bigger set of balls, 'cause you're gonna need 'em before we're through!"
"Wow.. I know that tone, it's just weird hearing it from someone with.... hair"
-LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD

:D

Michale

Ya'all are on record as stating that Bernie policies are more closely aligned with ya'all's beliefs...

All the polls show that Bernie can beat Trump, whereas Hillary is losing in more and more of the polls...

So, WHY support Hillary over Bernie??

The ONLY possibility that makes any kind of sense is that ya'all feel it's "her turn"....

Pardon me for saying so, but that seems to be a piss poor reason to vote for a POTUS...

Michale

Once again, this begs the question..

Why Hillary over Bernie???

Why is everyone voting with their vaginas?? Even those who don't HAVE them???

Michale

As CW didn't, but should have said: "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose".

Sounds like wishful thinking more than anything else.. :D

Can't wait to see what's gonna happen when Comey's recommendation to indict is thrown into the mix.. :D

It's going to be EPIC...

Michale

yes.. A cynical and in-the-bag-for-Hillary observer might say that..

But would it be factually accurate??

It's funny...

Bernie was the cat's meow around here. He was the savior of the Democrat Party..

RIGHT up to the point that he was actually doing damage to Hillary..

Now he is worse than Trump.....

Ya just gotta laugh at the blatantness of it all.. :D

Michale

Salon gets it...

Michale

But that's what you don't get..

The BOBs will WANT Trump in the White House...

ANYONE but Hillary is their mantra...

If Hillary could find it in her to be a little more gracious, she MIGHT be able to pull the BOBs to her side..

But Hillary being gracious is like Bubba keeping his hands off the women.

Just ain't gonna happen..

Michale

What an example for the rest of the world to aspire to and to emulate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/opinion/moving-on-in-vietnam-but-remembering-its-lessons.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-right-region&region=opinion-c-col-right-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region

And, neither candidate, nor their supporters, seem able to understand what that means. There should be a sense of urgency here to get both trains on track toward their ultimate destinations and avoid a national disaster. But, alas, Hillary and Bernie can't see the forest for the trees.

Still, a national disaster could yet be avoided but it may require an inordinate amount of heavy lifting by all Democrats and progressives in the post-convention period. And, who knows, maybe Team Democrat will be all the stronger for it, in the long run.

He writes
A cynical observer might say that Sanders isn’t angry with the lack of democracy as much as he’s angry at losing. In any case, it’s more than a bad look for his effort—it’s ugly.

The full article is worth reading.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/bernie_sanders_scorched_earth_run_against_hillary_clinton_is_a_mistake.html

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/5/23/1529938/-11-reasons-why-Bernie-Sanders-lost-this-thing-fair-and-square

Great read, though, and really well done.

Yep.

The main difference between PUMAs and BOBs are that Hillary was invested in the Dem Party and Bernie isn't. I don't think they share the same motivations. Hopefully, and most likely, that won't matter. We'll soon see.

Yep! Sigh.

And in November when somebody says "BOB" you will be asked "Bob who?".

As CW didn't, but should have said: "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose".

We will then be subject to desperate "Five ISIS October Surprises for Hillary?", etc. as they flog the dead horse to the final day.

Yep! Sigh.

I expect there to be a lot of "How Donald Can Win the White House", "Hillary in Trouble", "Is Bill Going to Lose Hillary the Election?" headlines between now and late October. Then Nate Silver will sober everybody up when the weight of real polling tells us what is going to happen.

We will then be subject to desperate "Five ISIS October Surprises for Hillary?", etc. as they flog the dead horse to the final day.

I just wanted to say that the violence and vitriol we are seeing now seems way WAY beyond what we saw in 2008....

Michale