Yea, I know I know.. I need to get out more.. :D

Michale

ESPECIALLY when there are Americans amongst the wounded.. An American soldier and his entire family were wounded in the attacks..

How does it look that our President is laughing it up with a communist dictator and twerking on the dance floor with a hot Argentinian woman...

It's looks HORRID, that's what it looks like...

Michale

Like I said.. A moron on Gun Control.. But seems to grasp the PR aspect of terrorism just fine..

You DON'T laugh, dance and drink the night away when a very important ally has just experienced their own 9/11....

You just don't do it...

Michale

Not at all.. I just feel if someone is going to bitch and moan at a person with a -R after their name, that they should bitch and moan at a person with a -D after their name for the exact same thing..

Michale

And, of course, it wouldn't matter what Obama did or didn't do you would damn him because that's what you do.

Re: Flint, actually, not Detroit -- but we both know what I was talking about -- a report was just released that spreads the blame around quite a bit, but the key blame went to Snyder and his Emergency Managers. The state EPA gets its share of blame too, for acquiescing too much to the Snyder admin.

The Flint debacle brings into sharp relief a number of issues surrounding governing, how it should be done, how the public should be served, what priorities should be, etc.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/23/us/document-Flint.html?_r=0

This is a new topic, and I don't expect you to read the report, I don't suppose you're particularly interested. However it will be illuminating to see what you say in future if Snyder is either forced out and/or faces criminal charges. Especially given your tendency to place total blame, whenever possible, on the President or Hillary Clinton for anything that goes on anywhere that is problematic, it's noticeable how, in the case of Flint, you're perfectly comfortable with the idea that there might be multiple factors involved.

Well, judging from the batshit hysterical crazy coming out of the Left Wingery every time Bush took a vacation, I would have to say that the LEFT doesn't believe that a President can deal with things from more than one place on earth...

Eh?? :D

Michale

It's all about the optics..

Ya'all savaged Bush because he stayed a few minutes after he was told about the first plane hitting the WTC.... There was absolutely NO difference if Bush had jumped out of his seat and ran out of the room right then and there..

But the OPTICS looked bad....

To see a cross screen of, on the left, the death and carnage and blood in Brussels and, on the right, Obama dancing and laughing??

Well, that's just horrendous optics..

And, if you could look at things thru the eyes of a political agnostic, you would agree with me...

I'm curious about your views re: Detroit Lead Poisoning? (Or, that is to say, the rightwing view of the Detroit Lead Poisoning which you will have absorbed.) Do you agree Gov. Snyder should step down? (Or even be your favorite word: INDICTED?)

Sure... As long as Obama's EPA is equally held accountable..

But you don't want that, do you?? NOTHING matters as long as you can pin it on the GOP... The Obama Administration's culpability is ignored...

Michale

I often wonder how you think things actually work. Is it conceivable to you that the President can deal with more than one thing at a time? Or that he can deal with things from more than one place on earth? That he doesn't have to rush back to the White House every time something happens somewhere that needs attention?

Also, do you realize Brussels is it's own country? It has its own people/authorities/experts right there? Also, do you realize the U.S. has probably already has OUR experts involved? That the President doesn't personally manage every-single-thing on earth?

I'm curious about your views re: Detroit Lead Poisoning? (Or, that is to say, the rightwing view of the Detroit Lead Poisoning which you will have absorbed.) Do you agree Gov. Snyder should step down? (Or even be your favorite word: INDICTED?)

Brussels bombing tragedy???

Obama dances while Brussels burns: President and Michelle take to the floor to TANGO during glitzy state dinner in Buenos Aires as he ignores calls to come home in wake of terror attacks
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3507001/Maybe-advice-Barack-Obama-ignores-calls-come-home-wake-Brussels-attack-President-Michelle-attend-glitzy-state-dinner-Buenos-Aires.html#ixzz43p6Vwyn5

WHAT Brussels bombing tragedy???

Sure glad our fearless leader didn't let terrorism interrupt his tango..

"Harry! Don't have time to tango. Ditch the bitch."
-Tom Arnold, TRUE LIES

Michale

And other commenters called YOU out on your bullshit that I am a chatbot..

Does that stop you from spewing your bullshit???

It works both ways, son...

Michale

:D

Michale

I am curious... Do you have debates with your furniture?? Maybe a good heart to heart with your couch?? Ask your table what it wants for dinner??

You see, my dear John, you set the stage.. By calling me nothing but a program, every time you respond to me, you are showing all of Weigantia what a fool you are...

Considering your inane comments, THAT particular die has already been cast.. But the fact you continue to TRY and win debates with a, what YOU claim is a non-sentient thing.... Well, you prove every time how utterly clueless you are.. :D

By all means, if you want to get spanked even more, continue.. :D

I love slapping down the intellectually inferior.. And considering I have already conceded that I am just a knuckle dragging ground pounder, the fact that I am your intellectual superior???

Well, that's just gotta hurt!! :D

Keep dancing, Puppet.. :D

Michale

Another lie. I'm shocked.

A recap:

You made up a false quote and attributed it to Hillary Clinton.

Other commenters called you out on your bullshit.

Rather than take personal responsibility for your egregious transgression, you deflected by indulging in an ad hom attack on me, a previously uninvolved person.

The entire episode has demonstrated that you’re a liar, a hack, and a troll.

You claim that's winning!

I’m happy for you.

Indeed. Now you're laughing because I just posted more accurate RW quotes.

Well, I am glad you finally conceded that your quotes before were bullshit quotes.. :D

"Pull the string and you'll wink at me, your my puppet
You'll do funny things if I want you to, your my puppet"
James & Bobby Purify

It's not worthy of me to have so much fun at your expense, John.. :D

But sometimes it's just too damn irresistible... :D

You can go back to ignoring me now.. You have been spanked enough.. :D

Michale

Wow... Bigotry much... :D

Michale

Dance my little puppet, dance!! :D

heh

Michale

Then it's, like... "Oh.. Never mind!!"

Here we go again, making things up then getting worked up about them.

Let's live in reality (a challenge for feelies, but you'll get there).

Democrats would take a 'popular vote' election in a heartbeat - without the gerrymandering (e.g. North Carolina where 52% voted democratic but the congress seats were 9 R to 4 D) democrats would win most elections easily.

So not only is your premise wrong, but the reaction from the right if a pure nationwide democracy was proposed for Presidential elections would be massive - all sorts of reasons would be brought up why it is unAmerican, etc. etc.

Try it - go to a nut case RW web site (try NRO) and put it in as a comment and see the reaction.

I'm unsurprised by your goalpost-moving. Clasic troll move.

You're a liar. Your gaslighting won't disguise that.

No... I am laughing because I *FORCED* you to post more accurate RW quotes..

I just watched the new STAR WARS 7 movie.. Apparently, I have something of the Force within in me...

"You are going to undue my restraints and leave the room, leaving the door open..... AND DROP YOUR WEAPON!!"
-Rey, STAR WARS 7-The Force Awakens

:D

Michale

Bbwwwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Indeed. Now you're laughing because I just posted more accurate RW quotes. You know, the thing that you've been bitching and lying about like a whiny baby.

"JFC makes some of the most ridiculous quotes imaginable, ostensibly from the Right Wingery" - the chatbot

I'm enjoying it as my quotes are validated and your lies and fake quotes are exposed. Yuk it up, gaslighter.

Yea... Let's welcome ALL refugees no matter what..

What could POSSIBLY go wrong!??? :^/

Michale

"The political parties choose their nominees, not the general public, contrary to popular belief" - Curly Haugland

BBbwwwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :D

Dance, little puppet.. Dance!!! :D

Michale

Right up to the point that the GOP candidate wins the popular vote..

Then it's, like... "Oh.. Never mind!!"

:D

That's why I love not being enslaved/beholden to any political Party..

I get to laugh at all of them!! :D

Michale

The way I see it, the LDS motivation was more a vote for a stalemate going into the convention than a vote for Cruz. Somebody less crazy than Trump. Romney reboot maybe? That's said tongue in cheek, mostly.

If I set the rules there would be:

1. Pure proportional representation and no superdelegates
2. 6 'Super Tuesdays' in a row, each with roughly an equal share of delegates available each week
3. Randomization of the order that states vote - none of this Iowa/NH nonsense, to give all states a chance to be 'important'.

Plus I'd do away with the electoral college and just make it one person one vote nationwide in the general election.

Two words..

SuperDelegates...

That seems to negate the entire CONCEPT of "democracy"....

Less Byzantine my left arse cheek!! :D

But I can understand why you would want to ignore that in favor of simply trashing the GOP.. :D

Michale

"The political parties choose their nominees, not the general public, contrary to popular belief" - Curly Haugland

The Democratic primary process seems less Byzantine - the states allocate delegates proportionally - there are no cut-offs, winner take alls, etc. (at least to the best of my knowledge).

I understand that the Republican primary rules were put in place to favor a nationwide candidate a la Romney over a more regional candidate (e.g. Cruz), but Trump came along and has a nationwide level of support just high enough to have the accelerators kick in in his favor. Good luck to him, the rules should at least be applied consistently. I would imagine that there will be a nominating committee in the future and all candidates that want to be official Republican candidates will have to be pre-approved (i.e. The Donald Rule), but it is too late this time.

The convention rules are up to the party and are determined just before the convention. It is the 112 person rules committee that Donald is talking to when he brings up riots ("dat's a nice convention rules committee you got there, shame if somebody broke all 224 legs on it, if ya know what I'm sayin'?").

I get that you don't like the GOP Convention rules..

How do you feel about the Democrat Party Convention rules??

:D

Michale

He also says that the delegates are unbound - but most people's interpretation of the rules indicate that delegates are bound for the first vote, but then free thereafter.

He also talks about eliminating rule 40(b), which I understand to already have happened. Rule 40(b) was brought in for the 2012 convention to eliminate Ron Paul. The warning here is that the RNC might replace it with another rule (e.g. All nominees much have normal sized hands) to target somebody else they don't like.

And rule 40(b) also reminds us that the 112 member rule committee will be meeting right before the convention.

Here are a few suggested rules:

1. No gingers
2. All nominees must have displayed decorum fit for the role of Republican Nominee - e.g. no dick references
3. No nominee can be banned from entry to any NATO country (giving our allies a deciding vote in the process) - can you imagine how fast Britain is going to pass a rule banning Trump if they know it will eliminate him?
4. No nominee can be regarded as a complete clown by the 2012 candidate

A couple of potential sensible ones:
1. All nominees must issue their full tax statements for the past 10 years
2. All nominees must have held elected office as at the state or federal level within the last 10 years

Voting you can believe in.... :^/

Michale

Yea... No Derangement Syndrome here.. :^/

heh

Michale

Neil?? Fact check?? :D

Michale

Cruz seems likely to top 50 in UT, even though they haven't even called the state yet. But less than 20% counted.

I'm going to bed, see you all tomorrow...

-CW

Are the delegates "establishment" RINOs?

-CW

That whole prediction might be a scratch -- there's something weird about their delegates. I don't think any of them are "bound" for some reason. Interesting, the bit about LDS. Might help Cruz, since he seems to be doing well in UT so far.

-CW

-CW

So American Samoa is 15% LDS. 538.com estimates that 25% of Republican primary voters are LDS. Take is - bad for Trump.

-CW

PS. What is up with vote-counting in ID? It's been 2 hours, no results yet...

Mea culpa, everyone.

-CW

I'm trying to dig out McCain's numbers, but haven't found a live-update site yet...

-CW

-CW

A good reminder that political wonks are definitely not normal. Most people pay very little attention to this stuff, in fact. When I started blogging, I started watching the late night comics, because a frightening portion of the American public gets their ONLY news this way -- so it's important for me to hear what they're saying.

TheStig -

You might have been right yesterday, but Cruz's comments today RE: Muslim neighborhoods are not likely to go down well with Mormons. They're pretty sensitive about religious persecution, given their history. I still bet Kasich draws enough to deny him. Mostly because I want to see the wrath he'll bring down from fellow GOPers afterwards, I suppose.

-CW

I think you may be partly wrong on your Utah prediction. By many accounts, Trump is deeply unpopular with the LDS, I think this factor will take Cruz into the winner take all circle. I'm betting Kasich is an Ohio thing.

He immediately looked apologetic and said he knew nothing at all about the current election season. He said years ago he'd worked in the court system for a year and he was so turned off and disenchanted he's made it a point of avoiding all politics ever since. He said he was sorry, "I know that's not what you want to hear." I said not at all, what I want to hear is what people think -- he smiled and we moved on.