Eerie....

Michale

But you don't correct the record when other people call him a racist..

But you WOULD correct the record when people (me for example) say things that you think are false..

You can understand why I might be confused.. :D

Michale

Impressive.. I am truly impressed..

"And I don't impress easily... WOW!!!! A BLUE CAR!!!!!"
-Homer Simpson

:D

Michale

Strange coincidence: Drew Henley (the actor who played Red Leader) died today...

yes or no...

I have yet to see that Trump is a racist. So, yes.

That's exactly my point.. There is VIDEO of Trump supporters being assaulted..

There is VIDEO of Professor Click asking for muscle to physically assault a reporter..

BUT YOU DON'T CONDEMN THAT...

And the silence is deafening...

Michale

Fair enough.

NEITHER statement stands..

Trump is not a racist..

You concede that??

yes or no...

1000 quatloos says NO... Or, more accurately, massive equivocation... :D

Michale

Third hand...

But you prove my point perfectly...

Republicans are not afforded that...

Bullshit. I say both or neither statement stands. How is that biased? I would say the reverse is true, you want the statement that helps your bias but refuse to consider one that doesn't...

Trump is also a rabble rouser.

Fine....

But he's NOT a racist...

So, if the Left Wingery is going to BLATANTLY lie about Trump being a racist, then EVERYTHING they say about Trump is suspect...

Michale...

Clinton was quoted VERBATIM and never denied making the statement...

But you prove my point perfectly...

Democrats get equivocation and mitigation..

Republicans are not afforded that...

Michale

Yet this evidence is used as rock solid, whereas over 150 years of peer reviewed science explaining climate change is suspect.

The 'feelies' are running amok. Trump is currently feelie #1.

Time for some reality karma.

What was the context? Was he actually advocating violence or was it used metaphorically?

But ya'all ignore, equivocate or mitigate BLATANT racist statements from Bill Clinton...

If you continue to use this then the racist statement allegedly by Trump must also stand as both are too far removed from the moment to verify.

The carry the bags comment comes third hand. A friend/associate was told by a reporter who is now dead that he over heard Kennedy and Obama talking...

Trump is also a rabble rouser.

Seldom do these two go together without violence lurking nearby.

Trump, and his apologists, aren't fooling anybody. Including many of his own supporters who are attracted to rallies in the hope of a little argy-bargy.

Time for the feelies to grow up - Donald isn't the solution, he is just another hit of Meth.

I've lived in Africa where there is real poverty, and you know what, those people get on with their lives.

As the wounded British soldier Chris Herbert said:

"Get a grip of your lives, hug your family, and get back to work".

A lot of Trump supporters could do with some lessons in reality.

"When they bring a knife to a fight, we'll bring a gun.."
-Barack Obama

after the fact, trump claimed the protester tried to throw a punch, but there's no evidence of any kind that the statement was accurate.

There's no evidence that the statement WASN'T accurate...

there trump is on camera, both lying and directly advocating violence, and not only can't you accept it, you're doubling down on denial while at the same time claiming equivalent violence on the part of folks who weren't at all.

That's exactly my point.. There is VIDEO of Trump supporters being assaulted..

There is VIDEO of Professor Click asking for muscle to physically assault a reporter..

BUT YOU DON'T CONDEMN THAT...

You ONLY condemn the "alleged" violence from Trump..

It's TRUMP IS A RACIST all over again..

You condemn "racist" statements from Trump that aren't racist..

But ya'all ignore, equivocate or mitigate BLATANT racist statements from Bill Clinton...

Condemn the violence if you wish.. I'll help..

But condemn ALL the violence.. Not just the alleged violence from the Right...

That's all I am saying...

Says the woman who's husband had his popsicle serviced while in the Oval Office..

Yea... THAT's not an embarrassment...

CLINTON MEMORIAL
http://paulgolding.us/clinton.jpg

Michale

JL

"RULE NO. 38

Unit Rule

No delegate or alternate delegate shall be bound by any attempt of any state or Congressional district to impose the unit rule. A “unit rule” prohibited by this section means a rule or law under which a delegation at the national convention casts its
entire vote as a unit as determined by a majority vote of the delegation."

At face value, it would appear delegates are free to vote their conscience. Of course, voting your conscience can carry certain consequences, which might just explain Don Trump's not so veiled riot remarks. By the way Don Trump said, "warned" of riots, not signs. If I don't get elected on the first ballot, there be signs!!! Not very menacing, don't ya think?

Everyone makes the claim but no one can provide any actual FACTS to support the claim...

Michale

You mean, like when George Soros and MoveOn organizes a bunch of thugs in Chicago, prints them up their signs and then sends them into a rally SOLELY to disrupt the rally??

Like that???

Yea, I agree..

Less good... Less fine..

Michale

As I may have mentioned previously, the wife and I are binge-watching Big Bang Theory.. We started a couple weeks ago and we're mid way thru Season 5 right now..

A day or so ago, there was an episode where they were taking a trip to San Jose for a seminar or something. Sheldon, Leonard, Amy and Penny were in the lead car and Raj, Bridget and Howard were in the follow car...

Sheldon wanted to check in with the follow car so he got on a portable radio and said, "RED LEADER TO RED 5..." :D Star Wars fans get it..

So, anyways, we're driving to work this morning. Me and my son were in a truck hauling a bunch of TVs and parts and my lovely wife and her sister were in the follow car to make sure I didn't drop a nice 60" LED Samsung or something..

So, we're tooling along and I tell my son to TXT to his mother, "RED LEADER TO RED 5"... We're laughing our asses off..

My wife TXTed back with, "GO RED LEADER"... We started laughing even harder...

At the next light, I texted to my wife, "I HAVE NEVER LOVED YOU MORE THAN I DO AT THIS EXACT MOMENT"... :D

Anyways, I thought it was funny enough to share... :D

Michale

With that, Donald Trump becomes Don Trump.

As opposed to George Soros and MoveOn saying, "Nice rally you organized... Shame if a riot should happen to it.."

And proceeded to make EXACTLY that happen...

THAT's the point ya'all simply refuse to acknowledge..

The violence and the intimidation is coming from the LEFT Wingery...

Yet ya'all completely ignore it or, even worse, blame TRUMP for it...

Ya'all condone the violence from the Left Wingery...

It's that simple...

Michale

that sounds all good and fine when it's used metaphorically, but when it's done literally that means insult people and beat people up, which is substantially less good and less fine.

JL

That's what I am here for.. :D

Michale

With that, Donald Trump becomes Don Trump.

And it doesn't bother you that Hillary will do that??? Take a position SOLELY because it's beneficial to her campaign??

With respect to the TPP, what's worse, what Hillary is doing or what Trump is doing?

Well, Hillary is hardly anti-establishment so, I think you know my answer. I guess, in that case, we will find out what a Republican president will do.

I'll assume that means you agree that, as of right now, this is an Establishment vs Anti-Establishment election and, if that holds, then Hillary will lose...

ey, have you read the Friedman piece yet? Trust me, you'll love it!!!

yea, it's cute.. Reminds me of some of JFC posts... Long on sarcasm, short on reality... :D

Michale

With respect to the TPP, what's worse, what Hillary is doing or what Trump is doing?

Are you sure that that is what the numbers predict right now?

I didn't ask what the numbers predict.. As we have seen number predictions mean very little...

I am simply trying to meet you half way..

We are agreed that as of right now, this election is an insurgent election, an anti-establishment election...

And, as such, Hillary cannot win..

Now, I will grant you that American voters are a fickle lot. Their attitudes on the establishment CAN change..

If they do change wholesale and en-masse, then it's likely that Hillary would win... I concede that..

Can YOU concede that, if the attitude DOESN'T change... If the American voter is going to vote wholesale and en-masse for the anti-establishment candidate, then it's likely that Hillary will lose...

Michale

What is so bad about it, from Trump's perspective? Do we know. Has he told us what is so bad about it?

He knows that it's bad.. Just like every other Democrat that doesn't have an Obama-centric agenda...

Michale

Are you sure that that is what the numbers predict right now?

That's not a problem with my position. That's a problem with Secretary Clinton's distinct position.

Stranger things have already happened.

OK... I'll meet you halfway...

IF the American people change their minds about the Establishment, I will grant you that Hillary would win..

Now, can you concede the opposite??

Can you concede that if the attitude of the American people stay the way it is vis a vis The Establishment.... Can YOU concede that Hillary would lose??

:D

Michale

It's about what Trans-Pacific trade deal President Trump would negotiate for and ... of course, win!

One problem with your position...

Hillary Clinton HATES the TPP now...

Of course, she had to "evolve" into that position.. More accurately, she held up her finger to divine which way the political/focus group winds were blowing..

Yea, a POTUS of integrity and conviction.. That's yer Hillary..

Take heart.. It will be HALF right pretty soon...

Hillary WILL be a candidate of conviction...

Or, more accurately... A CONVICTED candidate.. :D

Michale

You can play the ostrich all you like, but the simple fact is, the general election will be Insurgent vs Establishment.. And the Establishment candidate will lose and lose BIG...

Well, there is still a way to go before the general and don't you think it's possible that the voters will start thinking that the establishment isn't so bad, relatively speaking?

Stranger things have already happened.

Donald Trump has - thus far, at least - not given the slightest indication that he knows anything about the TPP or JCPOA.

Shirley you jest..

There are upwards of 20% or more Democrats who can't stomach Hillary and are crossing the aisle to vote for Trump...

You can play the ostrich all you like, but the simple fact is, the general election will be Insurgent vs Establishment.. And the Establishment candidate will lose and lose BIG...

Even *IF* she is not indicted by the DOJ or the CPO.... Which she surely will be....

Put another way... *I* have a better chance of being POTUS than Hillary does...

Also, keep in mind.. Ya'all have been wrong about EVERY Trump prediction to date..

What makes ya think ya'all are right with this prediction??

Michale

Michale, you will especially like it, I am sure.

It's about what Trans-Pacific trade deal President Trump would negotiate for and ... of course, win!

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/opinion/let-trump-make-our-trans-pacific-trade-deal.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region&_r=0

"Get used to saying PRESIDENT TRUMP, people.. :D"

Actually Michale, I think YOU should get used to saying PRESIDENT CLINTON. :-D A lot of people may dislike Hillary, but a lot more people hate Donald, and can't stomach the idea of him, including most of the current Republican establishment, whereas Hillary has no such problem on her side.

Yea.. The Biden Rule... Except back when Biden made the rule it was a GOP President and a Democrat majority in the Senate... :D

Pretty short-sighted to make the rule then, as proven by the circumstances of the here and now..

And so it goes and so it goes.... :D

Michale

They don't have to consent to the appointment of any particular nominee. "Consent" that's mandatory is no consent at all.

But they do have to advise. They have to either substantively consider an individual nominee (and either confirm or report their reasons for rejecting), or provide substantive criteria that a potential nominee would have to meet in order to be considered. Anything less does not fulfill their constitutional duty to provide "advice".

At the same time, the Constitution clearly gives each house of Congress the authority to make its own rules. The Senate can have a 60-vote threshold for confirmation. It just has to do it in a way that allows it to do what the Constitution requires it to do.

I currently think the Senate should adopt some version of "talking filibuster" for nominations. That could simply be the one-track filibuster, where a senator who wants to block a confirmation process can do so only by blocking all Senate business. Or it could be the basic talking filibuster, where a senator must be present on the floor and speaking in order to halt the process of evaluating a nominee. Or it could include a requirement that the speech be germane.

Clinton had a good night,

and

Trump had a good enough night.

The above is pledged delegate driven thinking, but Kasich signals some stomach for a Cleveland floor fight over the soul of the GOP. Possibly a double secret putsch (don't rule this out, 'cause the rules are murky), or failing that, a serious 3rd party effort by Conservative Republicans. Trump could be on his way to winning a hollowed out GOP shell. Seriously people, does anybody actually know who or what owns the Republican trademark, and Stampy the mascot Elephant. Magombo!*

The prediction markets show both Clinton and Trump climbing in terms of winning party nomination (both overwhelming favorites at 90% and 60%, respectively) and winning the presidency (Clinton at a record 70%, Trump 22%, gaining back some lost ground). The generic Democrat: Republican race that hovered for so many months at 60:40 odds has moved into 75:25 territory, Democrat advantage (nice consistency that). As I interpret this, the Markets see Trump as a relatively weak candidate in the General Election even as he claws his way to winning the Republican nomination. Trump does great in the Red Bastions, but he's doubtful in the Purple Belt.

I tend to agree with the markets, but I also think the polls will be increasingly reliable moving forward. Polls have trouble with big fields.

* Stampy's safe word, obscure Simpson's references

But, the GOP will follow The Biden Rule and let the next POTUS pick the nominee..

What could be more bi-partisan than that!??

The GOP following the recommendation of the Democrat VP... :D

Michale

As opposed to the Left Wingery who assault and destroy property of people for exercising their 1st Amendment rights..

Of the two, it's obvious which you prefer.. :D

Michale

HOPE AND CHANGE was a dismal failure..

It's been supplanted by KICK ASS AND TAKE NAMES...

:D

Michale

Michale

I had a sneaky hope for Trump V Sanders because that would have made the General a fun election...

But Trump V Clinton is also going to be fun..

Clinton playing by Queensberry rules and Trump chair slamming her over the back of the head.. :D

Even without the FBI recommendation of indictment, I think Trump can take Hillary.. As I have said ad nasuem, this is an insurgency election and Clinton is the Establishment Candidate..

But the Clinton indictment, either by the DOJ or the CPO, will eliminate Clinton as a viable candidate and insure that the White House will flip to the GOP..

Get used to saying PRESIDENT TRUMP, people.. :D

Michale

OK, that's it. I'm going to bed. 2-for-5 on the Dem side, 4-for-5 on the GOP. I've had better nights...

-CW

May the wind be always at your back,
May the road rise up to meet you,
May your soul be in Heaven
A half-hour before the Devil knows you're dead...

Sláinte!

:-)

-CW

:-(

-CW

Only if it's Jameson's... heh. I mean, that Canuck stuff might be OK in a pinch, but Jameson's goes down smoother...

Heh. Just getting ready for Paddy's Day!

-CW

sigh...

-CW

I wouldn't be able to do it ... and I'm A LOT younger than most of them. Ahem.

Particularly with respect to his stance on the Wall Street bailout. You, hone it now during the primaries so it'll be all polished up for the general.

Hillary and Bernie had townhalls two nights in a row -- after flying all over and speaking multiple times a day -- they have to be exhausted.

I've heard both Hillary and Bernie sound hoarse. Grueling.

:-)

Campaigning's harder than it looks. Bernie's been a little rough-voiced at times throughout the contest, too.

-CW

Got Berned in Ohio, so to speak.

Heh.

Hey, I've been overly Clinton-optimistic for the past two go-rounds, so I thought I'd lean Bernie this time just to see what happened. A lot of my predictions come more from the gut than the polling....

:-)

-CW

Feeling the Bern, were you? :)

Which is why Kasich is going all the way to Cleveland. He's hoping for a surprise or two or more along the way ...

GOP side, doing pretty well, 4-for-4. Cruz is down only 3K votes in MO, with almost a million votes cast, so I still might pull that last one out.

Not as good on the Dem side, got overly Bernie-optimistic. 2-for-3 so far. Bernie up in MO, but not by a lot, and down in IL by a substantial amount. Over 80% of vote counted in both states, no winners called yet.

I'm going to claim bragging rights for calling MO the closest race of the night, however!

:-)

-CW

You're right -- Trump is going to prove more of a chameleon than anyone expects, that's my guess.

He's actually gotten better as a candidate as time has gone on -- not so much on the stump (that's already working for him just fine), but in interviews over the past 3 months or so.

The general could see a whole different Trump, that's for sure.

-CW

I think his entire life is an act.

Of course, that assumes that his gig so far has been an act.

Yeah, but I like to think I'm polite enough not to say it to their faces!

Heh.

:-)

-CW

He also trolled them into thinking he'd answer questions again, but then didn't.

Well, I have to admit that I rather enjoyed that bit, too. :)

I believe you and I have found the media to be pretty darn disgusting, at times, too ... no?

He was talking about his big PGA golf tournament and he was taking part in the trophy ceremony and the television cut to a commercial and he was telling everybody "Don't watch, don't watch the TV ... look at the beautiful golf greens here, look how beautiful they are!

And, then it was back to the tournament closing ceremonies but then another break for a commercial and yeah, you guessed it, more negative Trump ads with Trump trying to distract everyone from watching them.

It was pretty funny.

I missed that bit, but saw the "disgusting" media riff. Not so funny...

He also trolled them into thinking he'd answer questions again, but then didn't.

Race is razor-thin in MO for Trump. Bernie up, but not by a whole lot. Clinton still has big lead in IL, but slowly shrinking.

-CW

lol

Yeah, I've got him yapping on in the background, too...

-CW

I was watching MSLSD earlier this evening and Steve Kornacki was giving exit polling numbers on that. I'm struggling with this time change and I fell asleep. I don't remember the numbers, but they were substantial.

TheStig: I wonder too.

TheStig used the Ohio Open Primary Option to vote Kasich. My first vote for the K. man, and almost certainly my last.

Divide and conquer is a two edged sword Monsieur Trump!

I wonder how many other Ohio Dems used this micro nuclear option...and whether reliable estimates can be teased out by pollsters?

The only way Kasich wins is at the convention. He needs 110% of all remaining delegates to get a majority, so that ain't gonna happen...

-CW