Like it's OK for a Republican to be president??

Yea... There's a word for that kind of attitude..

It's the same word as the one you are talking about...

Bi_ot... :D

Michale

Like whether it's ok for a black guy to be president. Yeh. There's a word for that kind of attitude.

or

#MakeWhiteHouseWhiteAgain

With all of the choices in the field at the current time it is kind of like reaching into a sack of ,well, dicks....there are big ones and small ones, flacid ones, and ones no one wants. No matter what you pull out it is guaranteed to make you less than happy and feeling slightly shlonged to use the term of one of them.

So reach in and grab one...theres the Smirkin Golden Mirken, Its Yuuuggge. There is the TrusTed Torpedo, must be used according to instructions choice not allowed. I hear you can get the Manos Pequenos Rubio and the Kasich Govenator at bargain basement prices, better hurry they may be out of the stores soon. If those don't fit your style try the the Chromium Clintonator guaranteed to stop working for you once you get it home (unless you are a wall street banker) and try the Sanders Socilaizer I hear the box looks great and the design is great but the use of "congress" batteries guarantees it will never work as planned.

So what are you waiting for all of the popular kids are doing it reach in and grab yours before it is too late.

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Irregardless of that, the simple fact is that 80% of Americans do NOT want an Obama 3rd Term...

That does not bode well for Hillary who is running on that exact platform...

Michale

The polls for congress are quite clear and support your point. But is the President facing the same disgust? CW's weekly Obama watch indicates that Obama's approval ratings are about 50-50.

Your point about the accuracy of names polls at this time is spot on - the 538 give very little credence to the November timeframe polls in March.

It's not CW, it's the Wordpress AI... She's a fickle biatch... :D

The big challenge for Trump is that his message resonates with the 16% working class white voters, but he alienates too many of the other 84%.

In the here and now, General Election polls don't mean too much..

Polls that tally the mood of the electorate w/o any references to candidates or elections...

THOSE are the polls you want to pay attention to...

Michale

Here is a breakdown of the voting population that was in my redacted post (c'mon CW it was completely tame :).

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bloomberg-might-have-produced-president-trump/

The big challenge for Trump is that his message resonates with the 16% working class white voters, but he alienates too many of the other 84%.

No need.. You stated the case perfectly...

The thing that the Left Wingery doesn't get is that BOTH sides use demonizing and fear mongering to try and appeal to voters...

Trump has the edge over Hillary (and to a lesser extent, Sanders) because Trump truly is an outsider completely and unequivocally untainted by the Political Establishment...

Michale

DSWS [16]:

I don't agree that this is stereotyping poor white people as bigots. I think the point is that the attitudes that were common 25 years ago regarding gay marriage and other social issues have progressed quickly and a lot of the people who don't agree with the progression are also the people who have been on the wrong side of the economic changes as well.

Remember Obama only 'evolved' recently on gay marriage, and 43% of the population still believe abortion should be illegal most or all of the time (Pew Research, March 1, 2016).

These are also the people who feel the Republicans and Democrats have taken their votes but ignored them the rest of the time. Trump is talking to these people in the language they use to talk to each other. Michale - help me out here.

I don't see the bigotry in this - but I'm pretty insensitive.

This is culled from the 538 ( http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bloomberg-might-have-produced-president-trump/ ):

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African-Americans (12 percent of voting population): extremely Democratic-leaning.

Hispanic, Asian, “other” and mixed races (14 percent): Also strongly Democratic leaning, especially in recent elections.

White evangelicals (23 percent): Strongly Republican.

White cosmopolitans (20 percent): These are white, non-evangelical voters who favor both gay marriage and a pathway to citizenship for immigrants who entered the country illegally. They’re a highly Democratic-leaning group, mostly concentrated in urban areas and college towns.

White “picket fence” voters (15 percent): These are whites who are neither evangelicals nor cosmopolitans, but have high socioeconomic status as indicated by income, education levels, home ownership and other factors. This is a largely suburban, center-right group who went for Mitt Romney over Barack Obama about 2 to 1 in the previous election.

White working-class voters (16 percent): Whites who are neither evangelicals nor cosmopolitans, and have lower socioeconomic status. Once a good group for Democrats, they now vote Republican about 2 to 1.

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The main target for Trump are the 16% white working class voters, and if they swing from 2-1 (62% voted for Romney) to 3-1 (75% vote for Trump) Trump will win in a near landslide. The problem is holding on to the other voting groups at the same time. A swing of just a few percentage points in the rest of the white vote (Cosmopolitans and Picket Fencers) eliminates this advantage.

Interesting times.

Anyway, I read a few paragraphs of the Mauldin link, just stereotyping poor white people as nothing but worthless you-know-whats who are now throwing a snit because the elites (other than Trump) aren't pandering hard enough to their you-know-whatry. I'm not interested in reading a bunch ugly stereotyping of poor white people, any more than of any other group. If it has a point to make, it should have done so sooner.

Just as Hillary's and Bernie's message is ALSO one of Hate...

The only difference between Trump and Hillary/Bernie is the object of their Hate platform..

Hillary and Bernie are targeting fellow Americans who are doing absolutely NOTHING illegal..

Trump is targeting foreign criminals..

You can bet that Independents and NPAs are with Trump in that regard...

He will pivot, probably starting a week today if he wins 2 of Illinois, Ohio and Florida, but it might be too late, and he might start to lose his passionate base if he starts to sound like another bland politician.

That's the beauty of Trumps campaign to date..

He doesn't HAVE to "pivot"... He has been running a General Election campaign the whole time..

Why do you think that 20% (and growing) of Democrats are going Trump??

You are correct in that Trump has pissed off many conservatives with his Pro Planned-Parenthood stance, etc etc.. But he will make that up and tons more with Democrats...

Trump has been running a General Election campaign since Day One... Which is EXACTLY with the Republican Party is going bat shit hysterical crazy...

Michale

I thought you'd like the article.

The problem for Trump is that there may be enough voters in the demographic described to allow him to squeeze past the 1237 mark (which I now think he will, comfortably), but he is alienating a lot of his own party, and obviously some large voting blocks in the rest of the electorate.

The lesson I took from this article is that a segment of society that has been loyal to the Republican Party but fed crumbs in return is protesting via Trump, who, almost uniquely, is reaching out to them. This large minority (35%) of the Republican Party are so happy that they have a champion that they are the most enthusiastic voting group in this election and have taken over the mantle of passion that Obama rode in 2008.

Trump's challenge is to expand this passion to the rest of the country - but his message isn't "Hope", but "Hate". He will pivot, probably starting a week today if he wins 2 of Illinois, Ohio and Florida, but it might be too late, and he might start to lose his passionate base if he starts to sound like another bland politician.

It IS an interesting read...

It explains how the Democrat Party ignored the middle class who were not "acceptable" to the Democrat Party.. The Dem Party chose to ignore that part of the middle class because they were not vote-laden like other demographics were... That group could not be "bought" with shiny beads and shallow flattery... That group didn't care to be part of the FREE STUFF Party, the FREE RIDE Party...

Trump speaks to that group of Americans...

But then a funny thing happened.. Those that WERE of the FREE RIDE Party heard things from Trump and his supporters and thought to themselves.. "Hay.. That sounds great!! I don't HAVE to be a slave to Party ideology!! Here's a guy who is going to show me how to live life and be PROUD of what I do rather than having to meekly go hat in one hand, my other hand out for a government dole... I LIKE this feeling!!"

As I have said....

This is an election between an Establishment Status Quo candidate and a candidate who has actually BUILT something...

Almost 80% of Americans do NOT want the status quo.. Do NOT want a third Obama term...

And THAT is why Hillary Clinton will lose...

Michale

I don't have a good track record on invites..

Maybe it's my breath.. :D

Michale

#ArbeitMachtFrei

Too much? Heh.

-CW

Interesting read: http://www.mauldineconomics.com/this-week-in-geopolitics

#FlipFlopNeverTrump

or

#NeverTrumpFipFlop

It all depends on the overall flipity floppityness of the existing pool of candidates.

No matter what if Trump does pull the rabbit out of the hat, it will be interesting and make for some good theater to watch the ring kissing that Cruz and Rubio will have to do.

i think you hit the right note, so let me just shorten your idea a little... you still get the quatloos if it wins though...

#WhateverTrump

JL

Or just

#Trumped

#NeverTrump
#NeverTrump
#NeverTrump
#NeverMind

I don't read it that way. The context was "at a contested convention". So he's saying that if no candidate gets a majority of delegates, he'll push for Cruz or Rubio instead of putting himself forward as an alternative.

However, I basically agree with the overall thesis. As I think I've said before in these pages, I expect that some "establishment" Republicans will sit the election out if Trump is nominated, but they won't switch parties or run a Republican spoiler candidate as an independent.