Not all intelligent political analysts were embarrassed by the Schwarzenegger governorship, nor should they have been.

I'm not sure why you would continue to think of his reign as a joke??

If you think that Trump is a politician, I could say the same thing.. :D

Trump is a businessman.. NOT a politician...

Michale

Actually, from the way the story was originally reported, I think Clinton herself owns the rights. She specifies in the contract that nobody can record the speech, and also that the venue provide a stenographer to transcribe the speech -- and that the transcript be given to her for her own purposes.

If this is true, there is nothing legal stopping her -- she owns all the rights.

-CW

I don't want ANY politician..

And, to date... Trump fits the bill... :D

Michale

Do you think there are ANY politicians who don't flip flop (Rubio & immigration reform, Cruz and "I didn't shut down the government", Trump and just about anything that he blurts out)?

So, do you want a smart politician or a stupid one?

If you think you can get an honest one I've got to remember CW's 'Evian' mnemonic again ;)

He probably knew he had little or no chance of getting the nod, and was just being used as a political pawn to embarrass Republican Senators.

The nominee will need to get a verbal from both Hillary and Bernie that they will not be withdrawn before they agree to stand - can you see Sandoval doing that?

Also, I don't see any chance that a President Trump or Rubio would get any nominations thru on their watch without a Republican majority in the Senate - "let the people decide in 2020!" ;)

Ok, thanks. Then you're probably right that they're not especially helpful to her candidacy. I'm not going to leap to a conclusion that they're dramatically damaging, but they're probably at least not politically convenient for her.

Of course, she could just wait until it's her versus Mr. Trump and say, "I'll release the transcripts when you release your tax returns."

So, in other words, she will say one thing now and then completely flip flop and say the exact opposite later...

And ya'all are OK with that???

She is a smart politician.

You realize that, for Joe and Jane Sixpack and other average Americans, that's an insult, right?? :D

Michale

I live in an very left wing area - the sort of area where people check that their Birkenstocks are made by vegan artisans and everybody is shocked by how sensitive and civilized they are in comparison to the great unwashed, so I can confirm that there is ample opportunity to get nauseated by the smug horrorshow that abounds.

However there are some simple facts that it seems the Republican Party can't accept that make them even less desirable than voting with the Birkenstock brigade.

Here is how one Republican blogger describes four of them in the Houston Chronicle:

http://blog.chron.com/goplifer/2014/11/four-inescapable-realities/

Sandoval just told Obama to stuff it! :D

Michale

Mostly correct and accurate, but completely insufferable.. :D

Michale

Somebody who was at one of these events basically said that Hillary played to her audience - probably telling them that they were the financial engineers of the future, and that a few bad apples in 2008 shouldn't define a great industry, etc. etc.

In other words she told them what they wanted to hear so they would pay her stupid money to give the same speech next year.

I've worked on Wall St. and the City of London and seen many of these types of speeches (I shared a green room at the NYSE with Alan Greenspan for 45 memorable minutes once - name drop alert).

They follow the same self-congratulatory format that you see at the Oscars when they do that bit about how Hollywood brings everybody's dreams to life - you've seen it 100 times before.

The problem for Hillary is that she can't praise Wall St AND cast herself as some sort of Warren-Sanders crusader at the same time, so she will wait until Sanders has bit the dust then release the transcripts while everybody is still focused on Trump and Rubio. She is a smart politician.

Granted, I tend to pick on the Left Wingery more...

The reason for that is two-fold..

1. Ample opportunity..

B. Picking on the Right Wingery would be incredibly redundant around here.. :D

Just think of me as the Sheldon of Weigantia... :D

Michale

You LOOK for things to get angry about for your 'Left Wingery' granfalloon. You engineer positions that justify your division. You ignore the same nonsense from your 'tribe', thinking that there are any real differences.

Time to look into your own brain and try to understand its weaknesses (those are the same as the rest of us, unless you have some sort of brain damage, but I'm not going there).

Examples include the confirmation bias, anchoring, availability heuristic, the Barnum effect, etc.

Here is a good list. Master avoiding these and you will be a better person than me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

Hillary's contracts with the companies that she speaks at have been widely released..

One of the provisions of her contract is that the company will hire a transcriptionist to transcribe the speeches. And those transcripts are the sole property of Hillary Clinton and she is free to do with them what she wishes..

Hillary CAN release the transcripts if she wants to..

If they would help her candidacy, then you KNOW she would release them in a stone cold minute..

The mere fact that she DOESN'T release them is sufficient evidence that they contain damaging information..

A logical conclusion, logically arrived at...

Michale

I don't know at all that this might be the case, but it occurred to me that if they paid her to speak to them at a private gathering, that she might be obligated to keep the content private. For instance, when I hire a consultant to provide me advice or a programmer to write code, it's a "work-for-hire" situation that normally means that the buyer retains the right to the intellectual property and it cannot be distributed publicly.

Now I don't much (anything) about paid public speaking so I have no idea if any such IP policies exist in general or occurred in this case specifically, just that it occurred to me that there may be legal constraints not readily visible to us. Still it seems odd that they would enforce it or that she would have signed such a thing given her ambitions, but maybe it's a legal issue that is complicating any release (not that she especially wants to anyway).

Why can't we screen all Americans to weed out the 'bad ones'?

There you go again.... Changing the argument.. :D

We can't "screen out" Americans BECAUSE they are Americans...

I am talking controlling our borders and PREVENTING those who want to murder innocent people from entering and doing just that..

And you want to ARGUE with me against doing that??

WHY???

Michale

I KNOW that it's real because I see it happening..

When that scumbag shot up the Planned Parenthood, the Left Wingery came out of the woodwork condemning the "terrorism" and demonizing the "terrorist"...

When 2 muslims shot up San Bernardino and killed all those people and when a group of muslims shot up Paris and killed dozens MORE people, it was all about not "rushing to judgement" from the Left Wingery...

If you want to call it a caricature, fine...

But you simply CANNOT deny the ACCURACY of the caricature...

Michale

Why won't Hillary release the transcript of her Wall Street speeches??

What is she hiding???

Michale

Michale: you have a caricature of 'Left Wingery' that you make up and then assign obvious partisan nonsense to (where do you get it? Fox News?). You truly believe that this caricature is real, and that you can lump 100's of millions of people into it and rail against them. This is not a valid grasp of reality, no matter how much it feeds your needs.

Why can't we screen all Christians and weed out the ones who want to murder doctors who conduct constitutionally legal procedures?

Why can't we screen all Mormon marriage license requests to make sure they only have one 'wife'?

Why can't we screen all Americans to weed out the 'bad ones'?

See where this is going?

Exactly - You got a problem, do something about it. I'm fine with BLM in their goal to raise transparency when cops cross the line from policing into murder, but when they get up in arms over a Bill Maher speech, or want an insult free world, they are just as bad as the Trumpeters.

Somebody wants a cake for their wedding from your bakery - f'ing bake it.

Somebody want to be an @sshole about baking you a cake - laugh at them and take your money elsewhere, and let Yelp know exactly who and what they are.

Somebody has a job issuing marriage licenses, but only to people they decide they approve of - get a new f'ing job and quit whining.

Somebody wants to take illegally squat in a wildlife refuge because they don't get to use other people's property for free - laugh at them, then lock them up.

There are way too many people willing to whine but do nothing in this country. But the loudest at the moment are pathetic Trump supporters wanting their make-believe leave-it-to-beaver 'country' back.

They all make me vomit.

Now - are you willing to call the Trumpters what they really are? A pathetic bunch of over privileged whiners who need to "Get a grip of their lives, hug their family and get back to work."

Or is Trumpian anger right, but everybody else's isn't?

Yet, the Left Wingery gets all indignant and hysterical when Americans are angry about muslims who enter this country with impunity and gun down innocent Americans.

The illogic of this is glaring and inexplicable..

Michale

AND like blaming ALL cops for the actions of a few, VERY few, bad apples..

Yet the Left Wingery wallows in that on a daily basis...

So yea.. That British soldier has a valid point.. The Left Wingery should do some serious soul searching on that valid point..

But no one is suggesting that anyone HATE all muslims..

But lets screen ALL muslims to weed out the terrorists..

WHY is that such a problem???

Michale

Put another way... I feel about the Trump supporters and their valid anger exactly how you feel about the BLM racists and their "valid" anger and the snowflakes in college who need "safe spaces"... :D

That clear it up for ya? :D

Michale

Your only bored with touchy feelie RIGHT Wingers...

You support the touchy feelie LEFT Wingers to the hilt..

:D

Michale

I'm bored with the touchy feelies getting angry about everything.

They are whining about this, that and the next thing. Thinking they are so important that their 'anger' is valid, when most of it is just pathetic self pity.

Here is how a disabled British soldier addressed the whole 'touch-feely-whiny' Trump supporters:

"Get a grip of your lives, hug your family and get back to work."

Read his short story then tell me Trump supporters have valid 'anger':

http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-35054442

It's just weird to me though. It's like it's just pure misdirected anger.

Why is it "misdirected"...

Who SHOULD people be angry at if not Democrats *AND* Republicans???

Michale

Either way, both gave me a chuckle ;)

heh

Actually I meant the latter, but the former IS a cheap shot.. Although funny as hell.. :D

Michale

It's not what the liberals do so much as what they DON'T do...

Where is the condemnation for all the college PC crap?? Professors calling for "muscle" to remove students who are simply there exercising THEIR freedom of speech??

Where is the condemnation for the fake "hate crime" reports from BLM members??

Where is the condemnation when DEMOCRATs running for Congress are viciously assaulted by BLM thugs..

Where is the condemnation of muslim terrorists who gun down innocent people.. The Left Wingery was ALL over the guy who shot people at a planned parenthood.. But they were cautioning a "rush to judgement" when 2 muslims gunned down innocent people in San Bernardino...

People are mad as hell and they ain't going to take it anymore..

Their government has been ignoring the middle class for 7 years, catering to the 1% and every foreigner and Left Wing interest group in the country....

And you really wonder why Trump's message is resonating?? :D

The reason is as clear as every headline you read...

Michale

Do you mean Chris Christie is the equivalent of 6 voters (i.e. cheap fat joke) or that his base is 6 voters (cheap impact joke)?

Either way, both gave me a chuckle ;)

That's 6 more voters for Trump! heh

Michale

I get this to some extent, Michale.

It's just weird to me though. It's like it's just pure misdirected anger.

I guess I feel this way because I didn't do anything to you (or other Trump supporters for that matter). I don't think any of the "liberals" I know did either.

I think this is where most of us are confused.

-David

Then I'll wait until the convention so see if they'll steal the nomination from Trump.

Plus I'll wait to see if Trump can get survive the attacks on him and his family - You killed Dumbo! You b@stards! ;)

Then I'll wait to see what happens when Trump's history of lawsuits, etc. are aired in full public.

Then I'll wait for November.

Then I'll wait for 2020.

Then I'll wait for 2024 ;)

I am fine with that..

But when Trump sweeps SEC Tuesday, then what will be your "wait til" moment??

:D

Michale

Not until the next day anyways.. :D

Michale

Trump has 40% of 29% = 12% support at the moment. I'm not giving up on the basic decency of Americans yet.

Trump got his first taste of a coordinated attack last night, and it was from people who are trying to win over his support.

Let's wait until after Super Tuesday and see what happens:

1. Trump sweeps, and the Democratic attacks start
2. The continued attacks from Rubio et al start to make a mark.

I don't think Trump is as teflon as you think, and, to remind you of your own analogy, teflon does not fare well in gasoline fires ;)

I will see if I can get a cameraman. And I remember the rules ... I can't say I lost a bet!

You can point out what the definition of "is" is till the cows come home..

Do you think that Trump supporters CARE!???

They are EMPOWERED by Trump..

The more people like you attack Trump, the stronger Trump gets and the MORE voters Trump gets...

You are pouring gallons and gallons and gallons of gasoline on a fire and you are confused as hell as to why the fire keeps getting bigger... :D

Michale

Oh man ... I'm gonna get killed. Ok, you won fair and square though.

hehehehehehehe

How 'bout this one?

http://skreened.com/republicantshirts/i-heart-american-flag-donald-trump

Love it!!!!

You sir, are an honorable man and I salute you... :D

If at all possible, get pics of your friends' reaction to it! :D heh

Michale

Michale

How 'bout this one?

http://skreened.com/republicantshirts/i-heart-american-flag-donald-trump

Should read:

If he took charge of all $200M he could be worth $13.2B, more than double what he is worth today.

Even more than his wild claims about his wealth ($10B)

S&P500 Growth since Jan 1972: 6639%

$100M in 1970 invested in S&P500 and left alone -> $6.6B today

Trump's real net worth (according to Forbes): $4.4B

So basically Trump, even if he took over only 50% of his father's holdings, lost $2.2B

If he took charge of all $200M he could be worth $8.8B, double what he is worth today.

What did he blow all the money on - 'good deals' - har har.

Looks like we agree - the "poorly educated" (Trump's term) who have suffered most from globalization like Trump, but did they miss the part where Trump said “Our taxes are too high. Our wages are too high. We have to compete with other countries.”

From the article you reference:

"My belief is for every one of those blue-collar white working-class workers that he gets to vote for him, we will get two suburban Republican moderates," he said.

"Williams predicted that Democrats are waiting for Trump to capture the nomination to unleash an assault on Trump's business record designed to undermine his standing with blue-collar white voters and union employees. "I guarantee you that is coming the minute Trump becomes the nominee," he said. "They’re going to go through every lawsuit that they have, all the creditors who he screwed and ruined their lives."

(hint: four letters, begins with d)

As Massachusetts goes, so goes the country.... :D

Michale

But yer right. That last paragraph makes up for all the rest... :D

Michale