Candidate #1: Donald Trump

Candidate #2: Hillary Clinton

Most Truthful (69.62% truthful): Jeb Bush

Biggest Liar: (14.81% truthful): Ben Carson

JL

But he's a musical genius!! :D

Michale

NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michale

... [8] from August 31st!!!

Is that what you call holding a grudge? :)

Non-serious was precisely the word I had in mind. I use it a lot. It's a word that I have happily appropriated from one of my favourite political analysts to describe comments (not people, mind you) that I find to be lacking in seriousness. Just ask Michale. Heh.

My wicked sense of humour was showing when I mentioned that I couldn't resist, I'm not that strong. You know, just trying to keep things light.

Speaking of which, I hope you don't avoid responding to my comments since I will not be showing the same restraint toward yours. And, you can be sure that goes especially with regard to any more unwarranted accusations against the vice president. Consider yourself forewarned!

It's actually very funny how people who constantly complain about ad hominem attacks are the ones who actually engage in that sort of behavior. That may warrant some reflection.

You should take your own advice given that this is yet another of your snide little put-downs together with:

[141]
That's just another one of your typical tirades that can only be described as non-serious.

I'm sure you had a word other than "non-serious" in mind but chose the mundane option in order to couch your put-down in the guise of "being polite".

When it comes to anything I say, you go instantly on the offense. You can't seem to help it -- and you even once said something to that effect:

Comment [8] Monday, August 31st, 2015 at 21:14 PDT
Sorry, I couldn't resist ... I'm not that strong.

That of course followed another of your little digs at me.

I get it. You dislike me. I'm not exactly enamored of you either, especially not of your obvious disdain.

While ironically I share many of your viewpoints, I'm happy to agree to avoid responding to any of your comments from now on. In addition I agree to refrain saying anything negative about Vice President Joe Biden in consideration of your feelings.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/9/obama-carbon-emissions-rule-halted-supreme-court/

Obama just can't catch a break.... :D

Michale

Man Throws Live Gator Into Drive-Thru Window
http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Man-Throws-Live-Gator-into-Drive-Thru-Window-368163271.html

How does one throw an almost 4 foot alligator thru a small drive thru window??

Practice... :D

Michale

Killjoy.. :D

Michale

599 is DIC; 59 is LIX. as i recall, there was a miami herald hunt clue that directed you to go to a place on the map where Publix was and "take half off the entire store." the answer to the clue was 59.

http://www.vwtech.com/tropichunt/year_detail.asp?huntyear=2006

Can't wait for the 599th Super Bowl

SUPER BOWL LIC heh

Michale

I thought it was 'L'...

Which makes it sound like an MIB agent... :D

Michale

Apparently, I am posting comments too quickly and I need to slow down. :)

Anyone know why the NFL switched from Roman Numerals to Alpha-Numeric Numerals for Super Bowl 50???

Michale

Indeed. But, it's not. That's not what I'm talking about, Michale.

I disagree, but there is time for that debate...

The debate now is which Dem candidate would be a better POTUS...

Hillary or Bernie....

The answer is clearly Bernie...

Michale

Depends on what kind of diplomacy we are talking about..

If it's DIPLOMACY AT ANY COST, then that is not a strength..

It's a weakness...

Michale

Foreign policy goes way beyond just military matters - or, at least, it should.

In other words, diplomacy is not a sign of weakness but rather a sign of strength.

I would just reiterate that it is also important that a candidate has his or her own strong underpinnings on the issues.

Sanders does, I think whereas, Trump does not.

For Hillary Clinton, it’s Deja Crazy Vu.
http://ramblingmanblog.com/for-hillary-clinton-its-deja-crazy-vu/

The problem is Clinton herself.. No one trusts her..

Michale

I would give the same advice to Bernie as I did to Trump..

Towhit, surround himself with people who make up for his deficits... Choose a VP or a SecDef who is military or knows how to lead soldiers...

Michale

All partisan aside, I think it's too late for Hillary.. Hillary has been Hillary for almost a half a century..

Even if she WERE to have a sincere epiphany and move to the Left of Bernie, no one will buy it.. They'll just think it's pandering...

Hillary has made her bed....

Michale

I think people are attracted to Sanders's message because it speaks to what has been the real problem with American politics for a very, very long time - the dominance of big money in the process.

Time has finally come where people who are concerned about the impact that big money has on the political process and how that influence inhibits real progress on any number of issues that people care about have simply had enough of the establishment and incremental progress.

I think the feeling is that there isn't the luxury any longer of waiting for change to happen in an environment in which real change can't happen. So, it's time to begin to change the environment.

Sanders understands this very well. Hillary, not so much, it seems. But, there is plenty of time for her to get on board and, if she does, then I think there will be no stopping her!

Young voters may be providing the thrust for the Sanders campaign engines but, I'm guessing that most Democrat voters feel the Bern, too. Which is why I think Hillary needs to stop talking about making slow progress and start challenging people across America to think big. She could be the ultimate "up-wing" candidate and leader if she takes that path.

Sounds reasonable..

Michale

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-young-democrats-love-bernie-sanders/

Mopshell,

That's just another one of your typical tirades that can only be described as non-serious.

How so, Mopshell?

It's actually very funny how people who constantly complain about ad hominem attacks are the ones who actually engage in that sort of behavior. That may warrant some reflection.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/08/feminists_sold_their_souls_in_the_90s

But he is dead on ballz accurate here...

The minute feminists looked they other way with Bill Clinton's serial sexual abusing and rapes, that's when they lost ALL credibility...

This is simply undeniable..

Michale

Michale

It boggles the mind...

Michale

Two high profile feminist Clinton supporters, former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and women’s rights activist Gloria Steinem, have made headlines with recent comments about female Sanders supporters.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/women-who-support-bernie-sanders-respond-to-234239662.html

That's who you are arguing with....

Michale

You seem to want to play semantic games...

Steinem said that young girls are going where the boys are and that's why they support Bernie..

*I* am not the only one who knows that this is what Steinem said..

If you want to argue semantics, argue with the young women who were deeply offended..

If you believe that Steinem "is absolutely right about young women; they aren't all that interested in feminist issues." then you must also agree with Steinem when she said that those young ladies are only supporting Bernie because that's where the boys are...

And by saying that, THAT is de-facto support for Hillary Clinton..

Don't take MY word for it..

You're one of my heroes, Gloria, and to hear that you quite plainly stated "the boys are with Bernie" in response to why young women are voting for Bernie Sanders was not only a sexist statement, but extremely disheartening. Young women and women such as yourself are in this struggle together, and while I appreciate the apology, this statement doesn't really confront the problem, nor how much damage your statement did. You chalked up an entire generation of women as brainless who vote for a man's approval. That's not why we earned the right to vote.
-Chelsea McCallum Donaldson

Neither am I, Chelsea. Gloria Steinem ruined her credibility as a feminist with her blatantly sexist, demeaning comment (which was obviously an attempt to bring women over to Hillary through shaming them), and her apology was more of a defensive PR statement than anything else. I am mightily disappointed in you, Gloria. You were my hero.
Tamlyn Jordan

How could that have been misunderstood? You did exactly the opposite of your goal which was to lean us towards Hillary! Between you and Madeline Albright you're driving us right into Bernie's arms! I vote with my brain and my integrity not my vagina!!! #bernitdown
-Mandy Carson-Kimura

It was not 'misinterpreted' you said young women choose their political candidates based on what boys want. That was sexist and ridiculous. This is a non-apology. Apologize outright for what you said, but don't make it our fault for 'misinterpreting' you. This was YOUR misstep, not OURS. Own up Gloria Steinem.
-Allison Oaks

Thank you for the clarification. As a feminist who was a women studies major at a woman's college, I was disheartened to think a woman I looked up to thought so little of me and my fellow women's ability to think and make decisions for ourselves that we could be swayed to vote for a candidate because of superficial issues like gender or bc that's where the boys might be. I first donated to Bernie's campaign one week after he declared and still wonder what took me a week. This election is a make or break moment for the direction our country is going and I want Bernie as my president.
-Kira Elise

Read all the women who were insulted by Steinem.. Take THEIR word for it.. Play the Semantic Game with THEM...

Michale

JM, my bust... You are correct and I do apologize..

THREE Weigantians will accept the FBI findings if Hillary is dirty...

Michale

This is what you wrote in [57] about what Gloria Steinem said:

Gloria Steinman says that millennial females are only for Bernie to chase boys...

One and a half lines. That's it. That's all. Apparently you think I'm a mind-reader and from those one and a half lines I was supposed to figure out that you thought Gloria Steinem was was speaking in support of HRC and that she was referring to young women being less interested in feminist issues than older women.

Without referring to anything except the one and a half lines you wrote in comment [57], without dragging in other stuff you never mentioned until much much later, explain precisely how I was supposed to know all that?

I did tell you I had not read anything about what Steinem said. It was obvious from my comments that I didn't know she'd been interviewed on a comedy show and that I had no idea of the context of her remarks.

So now, it seems, you are calling me a liar. You're now trying to make out I knew about the Steinem interview when I didn't. I can't imagine why you think I'd lie about such a thing.

Your comments tend to the very nasty, Mopshell.

So do yours.

She's absolutely right about young women; they aren't all that interested in feminist issues. Those of us in the feminist movement have known this for years; it is what it is. The issues just don't impact their lives 'til later.

Michale - you totally misunderstood every single word I wrote and made up your own version when, again, you put words in my mouth:

So, in other words, you agree with Steinem that young female voters are only supporting Bernie to get boys...

I never said that nor anything remotely like that. I never mentioned Sen Sanders. I never said anything about getting boys. This is a very nasty habit you have, Michale. It's dishonest and offensive.

She wasn't there to promote HRC. She was promoting her book about her life on the road. She was answering the questions that Bill Maher asked her, and of course, he was interrupting and joking because he's a comic. He asked her why she thinks young women support Bernie and she gave them credit for rationally looking out for their economic interests. If she endorsed Hillary on that show, I missed it.

That makes far more sense. Thank you, John.

FYI, Mopshell, I am talking about your comments, in general but, your outrageous accusations against the vice president, in particular, are especially inexcusable.

You're the one who sided with Maureen O'Dowd when I was siding with the Vice President. You're the one who maintained that Joe Biden contacted Ms O'Dowd and gave her the story. You're the one who dismissed paternal grief as not sufficient reason to stop VP Biden deciding to run for president. The accusations are all your outrageous accusations; they come directly from you.

Make that two of us.

Fair enough.. TWO Weigantians who said they will accept the FBI recommendation..."

Actually that makes THREE of us, since I had already said in my previous post that I would also, which you failed to mention.

Something about a pot and a kettle come to mind..

Gee what was that??

Michale

Won't nobody but me defend the Bern??!!?? :D

Michale

Make that two of us.

Fair enough.. TWO Weigantians who said they will accept the FBI recommendation...

Michale

Make that two of us.

All is not rosy in Clinton-Land...

It's gonna be Bernie!! :D

Michale

When it comes to anything and everything except '-D'/'-R' issues, I would agree...

:D

But there seems to be a blind-spot here when it comes to malfeasance committed by anyone with a '-D' after their name..

Which the lack of response to this comment....

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2016/02/04/gop-tickets-out-of-new-hampshire/#comment-69680

... aptly proves.

If someone of Comey's reputation and integrity says that the issues warrant prosecution, there is simply NO DENYING that the issues warrant prosecution...

At least, they would if the subject has a '-R' after their name...

Having said all that, ONE Weigantian has gone on record as saying he will accept Comey's recommendation...

Anyone else want to go on the record?? :D

Michale

I am betting not a single person... :D

That's because you know that we are all very reasonable people.

Yes Michale, actually I can. Will you still stand by your statement that you will accept the results if a full investigation leads to a finding of no wrong doing and no prosecution?

Abso-frakin'-loutly..

If Director Comey says that no prosecution in this case is warranted, then I will accept that..

But who here will agree to the opposite??

Who here will admit that, if the director of the FBI puts forth a recommendation of prosecution, who here will concede that this WASN'T a faux scandal after all??

Who here will concede that Hillary IS dirty??? That the allegations against Hillary ARE valid..

I am betting not a single person... :D

Michale

The mark of a petulant child and a sore loser...

Michale

But Cam didn't even put up a fight.. While I didn't see it, the second Miller fumble, Cam just turned away...

It's obvious that Cam knows how to win..

The mark of a good leader is knowing how to lose..

Michale

http://tinyurl.com/hjpd38w

Bill Clinton complaining about sexist abused is like Captain Kirk complaining that Spock gets all the women...

:^/

Michale

Bernie came back from a 30-point deficit to effectively tie Clinton in national polling...

Go Bernie!!! :D

Michale

Not a big fan of Lady Gaga by ANY stretch of the imagination. When I heard she was singing the National Anthem, I had to roll my eyes..

But she was good. No.. She was great.. Not quite as great as Whitney Houston (THAT was perfection personified) but Gaga did really great...

Michale

https://www.facebook.com/GloriaSteinem/posts/10153237059092854

It's pretty clear that my assumption about Steinem's HRC support by way of her comment with Bill Maher is dead on ballz accurate, MS's and JFC's responses notwithstanding...

Michale

"Having said that, I fully support a full investigation and prosecution if the facts warrant it..

Can you say the same thing about Hillary Clinton??

Of course not..."

Yes Michale, actually I can. Will you still stand by your statement that you will accept the results if a full investigation leads to a finding of no wrong doing and no prosecution?

FYI: I am not an HRC supporter. My views would be closer to those of Sanders but I disagree vehemently with his single payer plan. I'm also not a supporter of Joe Biden since it's widely believed that he lied about contacting and talking to Maureen O'Dowd, thereby exploiting his son's death for political purposes. From a personal viewpoint, I find that unforgivable.

Because Democrats aren't the slightest bit interested in any race except the presidency, they will lose races down-ticket and serves them right. That means there will be a majority Republican congress again and that's bad news for the American economy.

I stand corrected..

So, you agree with me that Sanders is a MUCH better candidate, a MUCH better person than Hillary...

Would that be a fair assessment, a fair comprehension :D of your words??

Michale

It's long, but a good read...

One thing is clear.. Bernie won the popular vote in Iowa..

Michale

Cam Newton now must face a sickening reality
http://nypost.com/2016/02/07/cam-newton-now-must-face-a-sickening-reality/

And the reality is... He ain't all that....

Michale

It's very telling that Hillary does not want to release the transcripts of her Wall Street speeches...

http://nypost.com/2016/02/07/hillary-cant-dodge-goldman-sachs-questions-forever/

What is she hiding???

Don't the American people have a right to know what Clinton said to Wall Street??

Don't the American people have the right to take that secrecy and guile into account at the ballot box??

Michale

So much for the claim that voters don't care about Benghazi and emails...

Michale

Apparently, I am not the only one who can see that Steinem comments were in support of Clinton..

CONCORD, N.H. — On the eve of the New Hampshire primary, Hillary Clinton’s quest to become the country’s first female president has encountered an unexpected problem: she is having trouble persuading women, young and old, to rally behind her cause.

The survey followed unintentionally problematic comments over the weekend by Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem, older trailblazers who were trying to encourage younger women to support Clinton.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/02/07/8c73740c-c50a-11e5-a4aa-f25866ba0dc6_story.html

Gotcha... :D

Michale

Michale

:D

Michale

So, in other words, you agree with Steinem that young female voters are only supporting Bernie to get boys...

How is this not sexist??

Michale

"I do find her support of HRC to be unexpected though."

She wasn't there to promote HRC. She was promoting her book about her life on the road. She was answering the questions that Bill Maher asked her, and of course, he was interrupting and joking because he's a comic. He asked her why she thinks young women support Bernie and she gave them credit for rationally looking out for their economic interests. If she endorsed Hillary on that show, I missed it.

"Gloria Steinem's full statement"

Thank you very much for that. I didn't realize it had been an interview on Bill Maher's show.

She's absolutely right about young women; they aren't all that interested in feminist issues. Those of us in the feminist movement have known this for years; it is what it is. The issues just don't impact their lives 'til later.

The same is true about politics for most young people, male and female. They have more immediate concerns: education, personal finances, relationships, getting into the workforce, where they're going to live and starting a family. These are not small concerns; they're major issues for them.

Of course it isn't true for all young people but it's a sound generalization.

Activists are more likely to be older women. You see this in the memberships of women's organizations like Zonta International, Soroptimist International and Equality Now.

Of course Gloria Steinem would be well aware of this. She's been a part of the feminist movement all her adult life.

If she wants to make a joke about young women, I'm not going to judge her. She's a better person than me. I do find her support of HRC to be unexpected though.

You have a very severe comprehension problem, Michale. Your hatred for HRC has evidently distorted your judgement so that you are incapable of understanding plain English.

This is what you wrote:

Gloria Steinman says that millennial females are only for Bernie to chase boys...

Exactly where in that statement did you say that Steinem was speaking in support of HRC?

Where in that statement did you say she was referring to young women being less interested in feminist issues than older women?

You've developed a very nasty habit of putting words into other people's mouths. I notice you did the same to neilm earlier. I resent you twisting what I say into lies. I resent your assumptions about who I do or don't support.

FYI: I am not an HRC supporter. My views would be closer to those of Sanders but I disagree vehemently with his single payer plan. I'm also not a supporter of Joe Biden since it's widely believed that he lied about contacting and talking to Maureen O'Dowd, thereby exploiting his son's death for political purposes. From a personal viewpoint, I find that unforgivable.

Neither Democrats nor Republicans have a halfway decent candidate for president. Whoever gets the job is not likely to have a cooperative congress so won't be able to get anything done anyway, except Ted Cruz who seems hellbent on turning the republic into a theocracy.

Because Democrats aren't the slightest bit interested in any race except the presidency, they will lose races down-ticket and serves them right. That means there will be a majority Republican congress again and that's bad news for the American economy.

The rest of the world will just have to put up with another recession.

Newton looks totally demoralized and beat... The last sack on the last play of the half really beat him down...

Michale

Newtown is WAY out of his element..

Broncos has this...

Michale

Anyone watching the Super Bowl???

Since we don't have any kind of cable or network TV, we're going to be streaming it.. This year, CBS is putting ALL the Super Bowl commercials in the line up..

Gonna be fun..... :D

Michale

Oh my gods, the entirety of the Left Wingery went batshit hysterical crazy..

According to intelligence professionals, Hillary has outed boo koo covert operatives and NOC officers....

The response from the Left Wingery??

zzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Like I said.. Ya'all don't even BOTHER to hide the blatant hypocrisy anymore..

Michale

Just FYI....

That's the commission of several felonies on the part of Sullivan AND Clinton.. Very serious...

At least, serious when the perps have '-R's after their names...

Michale

No, I am saying that it is inconceivable that ANY decision of any consequence was not part of an email chain at some point..

Never used all the systems in place to deal with classified information?

There is no evidence that she did.. There IS evidence that her staff did. We have Hillary's email (thru her private insecure bathroom closet email server) instructing Jake Sullivan to extract TS information FROM the classified network, remove classification markings and then send it in the clear..

Funny how ya'all continue to ignore that.. :D

In four years only dealt with top secret information 22 times and only when not marked as top secret?

Actually, the 22 times are the times that the STATE DEPARTMENT is acknowledging..

There have been identified by the intelligence organizations, yunno.. the ones that actually GENERATE the classified data. over 2000 times..

Or maybe in your hysteria you are just making things up? Why don't you apply occam's razor to that..

I will...

Whenever you have any actual FACTS to support ANY of the claims you are making..

I also have to ask..

Would you be this nit-picky if the SecState had a -R after their name..

Don't bother answering... We both know the answer to that one... :D

If there was nothing there, why is Obama's FBI putting so much effort, time, money and man-power into the investigation??

Another question you ignore because you don't have an answer..

Michale