Thank you, Joshua...

Although it's not too surprising.. Whenever I mention that there are a couple Weigantians who are reasonable and rational about the Right/Left issues, you are always foremost in my mind...

But it's nice to see it in print, every now and again.. :D

Thanx...

Michale

[re: 17] take a deep breath and pause michale, because i'm going to write a few words you won't see very often from me. you're absolutely right about this. on domestic surveillance, drone use, and a host of other civil liberties violations, the obama administration has been even more bush-like than bush was, and have largely gotten away with it among a substantial cross-section of lefties, people who ought to know better and be making noise about it.

JL

I thought I had stopped it in time, but apparently not..

My bust..

Michale

Obama held hostage: How Iran’s using the nuke deal as license to go wild
http://nypost.com/2015/11/07/obama-held-hostage-how-irans-using-the-nuke-deal-as-license-to-go-wild/

Who could have POSSIBLY thought that the religious fanatics of Iran would use America's tacit endorsement and approval of Iran's activities to go hog wild..

Oh.... wait.....

Michale

So I guess you're a 1% kind of guy on this one.

Actually, the facts clearly show that the majority of Americans are in favor of the Keystone Pipeline...

It's only the environmental whack-jobs who are against it..

So, in reality, it's YOU who is the 1% on this issue..

Once again, Obama's policies are opposed by the majority of Americans..

Amazing how that's always the case, eh? :D

Michale

But, I guess THAT only happens when the POTUS has a '-R' after his name, eh?? :^/

Yep.. No hypocrisy there..... :^D

Michale

is this what you had in mind?

http://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2014/01/28/angry-birds-nsa-edition

I disagree...

Look at it from the perspective of an employer hiring a promising employee, which is EXACTLY what it is...

If Monsters Inc hires James P Sullivan for his potential and Sully doesn't live up to that potential then James P Sullivan is a failure because he didn't deliver what he promised..

Obama didn't deliver what he promised..

NO ONE can deny that...

Ergo, Obama is a failure...

That's my take, anyways...

Michale

Obama sold out the middle class in favor of lobbyists, special interests and environmental whack-jobs..

It's that simple..

Michale

So I guess you're a !% kind of guy on this one.

Yea... Good for him.... Bad for Americans...

Michale

A reference to Cuba Gooding's last decent movie?? :D

Michale

...and the electorate is a murder of Angry Birds.

I imagine James Lipton might say it's an outrage of Angry Birds.

(sorry, couldn't resist... though, perhaps it's a "gnashing of Angry Birds", hmm)

His promise....

i understand the sentiment, but ultimately we need to judge people based on what they have done, not what we expected of them. is obama guilty of raising our expectations? unequivocally yes.

as of this day, Obama has delivered mezzo-mezzo results, firmly in the realm of a Taft, a Hayes, or perhaps a Van Buren. Sure we're entitled to be disappointed, perhaps even angry that we've come so far from his initial promise and our initial expectation. but results alone are the standard by which a presidency should be judged. once we get over our disappointment, we must accept that we got an okay presidency - not great, just average. in my view, that's what the poll numbers reflect.

JL

Michale

What was expected of him...

What he himself said would be delivered...

"the rise of the oceans would slow and the planet would begin to heal."

"to heal race relations"

etc etc etc..

THAT is what we should compare his poll numbers to...

His promise....

Michale

compared to what?

Himself? His best percentages were immediately after his election (low 60s), steady decline over the next year to flatish numbers for most of his tenure, mostly in the 40s.

Compared to other presidents in the era of scientific polls, his popularity high water mark seems to be lowest of any, but his lowest popularity (low 40s) is higher than that of LBJ, Nixon,Ford, Carter, HW Bush, GW Bush, and virtually the same as Clinton's.

Maybe we should compare his popularity to other branches of government? Like Congress, with an approval of about 13%. Or the Supreme Court, currently at about 45%. The latest poll I can find puts the Republican Party at 32%, Democratic Party at 48%.

Maybe the best way to evaluate Obama is to note that government is not popular at present, and Obama holds a position in government. Republicans are Elephants, Democrats are Donkeys, and the electorate is a murder of Angry Birds.

Why, thank you.. :D

Michale

They are well and truly dismal...

Utterly and unequivocally dismal...

Michale