But, take heart..

I think they make a pill for that.. :D

Michale

Once again, thank you for your concession.. :D

You can't win, Biga... :D

Every time you make an immature and childish personal attack to avoid the facts and reality, you put your impotence on display for all to see.. :D

Michale

Perfect example of trollery.
Changing the subject to avoid addressing the content.
Are you blissfully unaware how often you prove my points?

Of course, the whole claiming victory bit without engaging is simple projection, and a sad personal fault, but also not uncommon among trolls though not considered trollery in and of itself... not to mention bizarrely off topic to the portion of the comment you chose to quote.

But, you are a wingnut troll, so the description is accurate. I understand your need to attempt to portray accurate descriptions about you as inaccurate, but that is just more wimpiness on display for all to see.

Owning up to what you are, and the tactics you use would be the honest and ballsy move.

You don't have to be LGB or T to come out of the closet.

Several commenters came up with an awesome idea that I think Trump should follow...

At the opening, Trump says:

" I want everyone in the audience to stand and say 'DONALD TRUMP IS A RACIST!!'

LIVE FROM NEW YORK, IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT!!"

Wouldn't that be a hoot, eh?? :D

Michale

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTDmJXxUsAAYmZm.png

His parents must be SO proud... :^/

Michale

"Thank you for your concession that you have absolutely NO logical or rational rebuttal and must, therefore, resort to childish name-calling and immature personal attacks.

Your concession of my superiority is appreciated, albeit irrelevant."

Have a nice day and, hay.... Thanx for playing. :D

Michale

As usual, you are just like all the wingnuts who think Wall Street coddling corporatist warmongers qualify as "Left" simply because they have a "D" after their name and because you are even further to the right.

So, you didn't "fix" anything, just piled another lie on top of your previous lie.

Funny how your efforts amount to a defense of the establishment status quo though... or are you unaware that is the role you are playing by lying about the true nature of such Dem politicians?

And, again, no, you are wrong about trollery too.
It is a well defined tactic which you engage in constantly.
The content has nothing whatsoever to do with it... except, of course, that facts, logic and common sense do not support the content of the ideology you spew, leaving you no recourse except dishonest trollery.

A wingnut troll such as yourself lives in a bubble of denial about their dishonesty though, so I don't expect you to admit it.

In case you've forgotten, my comments aren't for your benefit though.

Michale

But that's the problem..

Those that are illegals AREN'T melting..

They are demanding that ALL the melting comes from the American side of the equation...

The illegals are NOT assimilating.. They are FORCING Americans to assimilate to THEIR culture..

In other words, they are no different than the Borg..

Michale

"Immigration without assimilation is invasion"

Michale

... of ILLEGAL immigrants...

Michale

And, has been well established "any other network" IS a liberal bastion..

So yea.. I guess yer right... :D

Telemundo gave up ANY semblance of neutrality when they lashed out at Trump for what was a perfectly reasonable, logical and PROVABLE assessment...

Michale

That's simply not the case. Telemundo and Univision provide programming that is relevant to spanish speakers of all types, from natural-born second gen citizens to legal immigrants to non-hispanics who love soccer (such as myself). latin culture is a vital part of american culture, just like german and italian food has become "american" food, just like black and jewish cultures have driven popular entertainment tastes, spanish language communication has become a normal part of american culture. the melting pot melts both ways, and telemundo is no more a liberal bastion than any other network.

JL

In other words...

"That's different"

Amazing how it always is, eh? :D

i'm not sure what you think i was saying, but your latest comment disproves your earlier one, that "the viewers of [telemundo] won't vote GOP anyways..."

Not at all..

LEGAL immigrants assimilate.. They come to the melting pot to melt in...

LEGAL immigrants don't watch Telemudo any more than LEGAL immigrants support La Raza....

Michale

i was saying that it wasn't such a good idea to snub telemundo, because it removes the opportunity to reach spanish-speaking latinos (both legal immigrants and natural born citizens), who may be receptive to a conservative message. i'm not sure what you think i was saying, but your latest comment disproves your earlier one, that "the viewers of [telemundo] won't vote GOP anyways..."

i understand the analogy between dems snubbing the fox debate and pubs snubbing the telemundo debate, but as you've firmly established in your last comment, the two scenarios are not parallel.

JL

You will find that most LEGAL immigrants feel the same way...

Michale

Donald Trump could win over Hispanics who fear job competition from illegals
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/3/donald-trump-could-win-over-hispanics-who-fear-job/

You were saying??

You see, that's the entire problem with the Left's argument..

They always try to make the issue about IMMIGRANTS..

But the issue is not, nor has ever been about immigrants..

It's ALWAYS been about ILLEGAL immigrants..

Criminals..

Even the LEGAL hispanics see that...

That is why Trump is a lot more popular with minorities than ya'all give him credit for..

Michale

See!! You agree with me!!

Winning!! :D

heh

Michale

Once again, your love for Hillary blossoms thru..

You complain about Carly playing the gender card, but you don't ever mention how Hillary is JUST a gender card...

:D

Michale

Marco should probably pass, but Carly the Zombie Gender Card Troll should jump on that talking point since she has decided not to sign the GOP Diva Eruption Letter. She's well positioned to tell the boys to get out of the kitchen if they can take 68 degree heat.

Yer just being pissy because ya'all have such a piss-poor candidate representing you for POTUS..

Don't get bitchy with me..

YA'ALL picked her!! :D

I mean, ya'all could have had a Biden.. Someone with MORE than a shred of decency, honor and integrity..

But, instead, ya'all went with Hillary... A candidate who has NONE of those qualities.. A candidate who is the ANTI- of those qualities..

"Oh Johnny, Johnny, did you back the wrong horse..."
-Dr Peter Venkmen, GHOSTBUSTERS II

:D

Michale

Exactly..

That's what ya'all are saying when you point to the GOP side of things..

"Look!! Over there!!"

Trying to distract everyone from the exact same thing going on over on the Left Wingery side of things... :D

You got it exactly... :D

But, don't worry.. :D

I'll always be around to point out that there is no difference between the Right Wingery and the Left Wingery...

"Your good and your evil use the same methods to achieve the same goals.."
-Yarnek, STAR TREK, The Savage Curtain

Michale

Must be, considering all the demands that Diva Hillary always makes when she speaks..

On the stage: lemon wedges, room temperature water, a carafe of warm/hot water, coffee cup and saucer

“Prestaged” group photos so that Clinton doesn’t have to wait “for these folks to get their act together.” The former secretary of state “doesn’t like to stand around waiting for people.”

I mean, seriously...

If ya'all want to complain about "Diva", you need look no further than your soon-to-be coronated queen "bimbo"..

After all, she is the best that Democrats have to offer... :D

Michale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VLyO8FP5Ys&feature=youtu.be

The problem is, you define "trollery" as "everything and anything you disagree with"...

Ergo, it's not very relevant.. :D

Michale

There....

Fixed it for you... :D

Michale

"The ONLY people who praised Hillary are the Left Wingers who are all about Hillary to begin with.."

There you go lying again.

The Left supports Bernie... (and the far left none of the above).
And Bernie supporters weren't praising the Hill.
Not even debatable.

You're stuck in a rut with that shtick.

A

Actually, trollery is most certainly the wimpy way to "win" a debate.

Of course, some people think that Lance Armstrong and Barry Bonds deserved their praise.

I'm not one of those people.

A

So, Democrats gave up outreach to all those Americans (Fox IS the #1 channel for news) because of a lame joke?? :D

Seems pretty silly to me..

But, regardless, the Left's animosity towards Fox is well-known.. And it's similar to the Rights animosity towards NBC in the here and now..

but 20% are republicans.

And that 20% is with the GOP on illegal immigrants and doesn't watch Telemudo...

Telemudo is the hispanic version of MSNBC...

No big loss to the GOP....

Michale

not necessarily the case. it's true that about 60% of hispanics are democrats, but 20% are republicans. that may be a significant disadvantage, but there's plenty of room for movement. plus, hispanics although economically liberal, tend to be socially conservative. there's definitely a receptive audience on some issues.

JL

no, the 2007 cancellation of the fox democratic debate was a response to comments by roger ailes, chairman of fox news, who joked about obama's name by asking why bush and the afghani authorities hadn't caught him yet. there certainly was anti-fox sentiment on the left prior to that, but until ailes' comment the debate was due to go on as scheduled.

JL

The majority of those legal latinos are as against illegal immigrants as the GOP is...

THEY paid their dues and did things the legal way...

however, the republicans giving up a platform to share conservative ideas with many new, perfectly legal voters just doesn't seem like such a good idea.

It is if the viewers of the particular network won't vote GOP anyways..

If I recall correctly, THAT was the exact reasoning that the Left Wing used during the 2008 Elections when Democrats wouldn't go on Fox News..

No??

Michale

JM was referring to republican outreach to latinos, most of whom are legal. by census figures there are 54 million latinos in the US, about 17% of the population. the illegals are estimated at ten million, many of whom aren't even counted on the census figures. that leaves a whole lot of citizens who are already legal potential voters and another fairly large chunk of soon to be naturalized potential voters. if you want to beef over telemundo's contractual obligations, go right ahead. i'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to dispute your assertion. however, the republicans giving up a platform to share conservative ideas with many new, perfectly legal voters just doesn't seem like such a good idea.

JL

No, but Predestination just became available on Amazon Prime this month, so I'll give it a view - the reviews were pretty good.

I deliberately held off watching Ex Mach until Halloween...tradition being a bunch of my reprobate friends get together and watch a really good sci fi/scary movie after the trick or treaters go home....aka "Bobbing for Beers Film Festival."

Ex Mach was recognized at this years Festival for "best butt ever" on a robotic character.

You watch PREDESTINATION? I love Time Travel movies that gives one nose-bleeds.. :D

Michale

Yea, that was a really good movie.. The wife and I loved it..

Michale

Sad news to report. The Donald Trumpkin Jack O' Lantern gracing my front gate was savagely mauled by rogue squirrels last night. A short life, his candle burned out long before the legend ever did.

Sci Fi update. Ex Machina. Instant rise to my top ten best sci-fi movie of all time. Low budget, beautifully executed, incredibly creepy.

Oh Moose Poop!!! The ONLY people who praised Hillary are the Left Wingers who are all about Hillary to begin with..

NEUTRAL observers commented on how many lies she told, how she gave one story to Libyans and her daughter and how she gave c COMPLETELY DIFFERENT story to the American people..

Ya'all can put all the lipstick you want on this pig, but it will still be a pig.

Hillary is a liar.. She is dishonest.. She is untrustworthy..

So says over 60% of the American people....

Michale

hmmmmmmmm??? :D

To be fair, these kinds of comments were all over the Right Wingery at the time.....

So I guess ya'all are in ... er.... "good" company... :D

Michale

hmmmmmmmm??? :D

Michale

As far as dropping Telemundo, as a network, they have proven that they can't be trusted to honor contracts.. In other words, their word is not worth a peso...

So, I see no problem with dropping them from the debates...

Your Joe and Jane Sixpack would not either..

The only people who DO care are those who wouldn't vote for a GOP candidate anyways..

So, I fail to understand the problem...

Michale

you think only illegals watch telemundo? if so, you'd best start the deportation hearings on yours truly.

JL

Why, thank you! :D

Also, going against the RNC's post Romney loss autopsy report, apparently Republicans have decide to piss off Latinos even further, by dropping Telemundo from holding a debate. So much for Republican outreach I guess huh?

The problem is, that "outreach" you speak of is complete and utter amnesty and instant citizenship for all illegal criminals..

That simply will not happen and no amount of half measures or baby-steps will mollify the Left Wing Hispanic community.

So, why bother??

And in YET OTHER political news :-D Larry Lessig became the latest Democrat to drop out of the race. So now there are THREE. Clinton, Sanders and O'Malley.

Whose Larry Lessig???

:D

Michale

"And if Hillary IS the nominee, she has so much baggage and so many skeletons, *I* could wipe the floor with her in a debate...."

Too bad YOU aren't one of the candidates RUNNING Michale. :-D Unlike ALL of the current Republican candidates, with the possible exception of Trump, one thing you are NOT is a Wimp.

Also, going against the RNC's post Romney loss autopsy report, apparently Republicans have decide to piss off Latinos even further, by dropping Telemundo from holding a debate. So much for Republican outreach I guess huh?

And in YET OTHER political news :-D Larry Lessig became the latest Democrat to drop out of the race. So now there are THREE. Clinton, Sanders and O'Malley.

Of course, it's all wrong.. :D

Let's take stock..

The Republican candidates don't like the debate process.. So they are banding together and actually DOING something about it..

The Democrat candidates don't like the debate process.. They meekly say "Yes ma'am" and toddle about their way...

Hmmmmmmmm

Seems like all the "wimpyness" is on the Democrat Party side of the equation...

Your same accusation of the GOP candidate being "unprepared" certainly applies to the Democrat candidate as well for the exact same reasons you state...

And if Hillary IS the nominee, she has so much baggage and so many skeletons, *I* could wipe the floor with her in a debate....

Michale