T-Shirt wager??? :D

Michale

JL

I presume the superhero genetics are from your side... ;)

There are no Hero-Complex genes anywhere in my family..

I have them all... :D

Michale

Carter Jacob Worley has made his appearance, weighing in at 10lbs, 7oz..

CJ tried to come out Superman-style (IE Hands First) which necessitated an emergency c-section...

Mother and Superbaby are doing fine... :D

Now we have 5 grandsons... Just enough for a basketball team! :D

Michale

Hillary loses to EVERY possible GOP candidate... :D

Michale

At THIS point in time...

I am also constrained to point out that the Democrat Party Primary wasn't all smooth sailing during 2008...

Ya'all seem to forget that in your haste to attack the GOP with anything and everything...

I do agree with you, though, that the GOP race is feeling a lot like the flavour-of-the-month that characterized the game in 2012. This time around, one might be excused for hoping for something more enlightening with the stakes for the GOP and for the rest of us being as high as they are.

Of course, you could look to the Democrat Party Primary for sanity and enlightenment...

Oh... wait..... :^/

Michale

I do agree with you, though, that the GOP race is feeling a lot like the flavour-of-the-month that characterized the game in 2012. This time around, one might be excused for hoping for something more enlightening with the stakes for the GOP and for the rest of us being as high as they are.

The one key point that challenges that potential pattern is whether there is a base support that Mr. Trump won't fall below, a floor if you will for his support (maybe 20%?). If that's the case, Trump will stay at the top until the field consolidates enough for someone to rise above his floor of support.

Still, I sense a general dynamic in these very early months where leading polls tends to follow momentum -- kinda like sports teams where the fans start paying more attention to their team when its winning.

Reminds me a bit of watching young children playing soccer -- the bumblebee swarm around the ball wherever it goes. Whoever's rising in the poll tends to attract even more momentum just because they're rising for now.

That's not to say that the same dynamic doesn't exist on the Democratic side. I'm sure it's there too, just not as obvious or pronounced (couldn't see in 2012 because, as the incumbent, Pres. Obama was the presumed nominee throughout).

Today it's Ms. Fiorina (R) and perhaps Mr. Sanders (D).
Tomorrow?

All meaningless until the first primaries in February. But fun to watch, like playing fantasy sports or the prediction markets.

(Indeed, much of American national politics is like sports fandom with everyone wearing their blue or red jerseys and treating the opposing team as some kind of evil rival. The news stories read either like play-by-play sports announcers or obviously biased cheerleaders.)

But it really is pointless to do so, so early in the race...

Having said that I have already mentioned my picks... If one ignores Party dogma, each candidate has qualities to admire and qualities of leadership that would serve them well as POTUS...

Michale

Why don't you be the first, Michale ... you are the objective agnostic around here and so it would be fitting for you to be the judge of the candidates' leadership ability and vision for the future and, based on that, evaluate the winners and losers, so far, in this always consequential presidential race.

No I cannot.. But just because I can't name them doesn't mean they don't exist...

Michale

Michale

I would be happy to be proven wrong about this.

Can you enlighten me as to who has measured this presidential race in terms of what really matters by measuring the candidates' leadership ability and vision for the future? Who are winners and losers in those terms?

John Boehner Will Resign From Congress
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/us/john-boehner-to-resign-from-congress.html

Lucky you...

I am sitting at home with the grand-babies awaiting the arrival of a NEW grand-baby...

Michale

Bush, still number 1 but trending slightly down
Rubio, a solid second trending up
Fiorina, stalled, but stalled in third place
Trump, Stuka dive to 4th
Carson, what the hell happened 5th, wobbling

Da Dems:

Clinton, first, trending level
Biden, zoom climb
Sanders, opposite of zoom climb

I expect the pollsters will start to show a similar pattern in a week to 10 days.

TheStig is disconnecting for a few days to battle fish on a big lake....don't know if anything much is biting, but the weather looks dee-lightful.

Michale

Don't forget to "ignore" me again, JFC. :D

A million quatloos says you can't.. :D

Michale

The problem is that NO ONE seems to be measuring it in any way that counts. :(

Let's be accurate Liz..

No one seems to be measuring it in a way that YOU believe it counts...

Let's keep our facts and our opinions straight, eh? :D

Michale

JFC goes on an on about money & Fiorina even though I have proven his claims are utter bullshit...

Yet he completely ignores the greedy money hungry Hillary Clinton who made millions selling favors as SecState...

As far as JFC's BS claims about Fiorina lying about the horror videos??

In the video in question, a technician is talking about harvesting the brain of an alive, fully formed fetus. While she tells her story, there is footage of another baby of roughly the same gestational age as the one whose brain she harvested. This baby is seen still kicking and its heart still beating.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/18/whos-really-lying-about-the-planned-parenthood-videos-carly-fiorina-or-the-factcheckers/

It's funny how JFC attacks Fiorina for hyperbole, yet doesn't say word one in condemnation of the horrible practice of harvesting baby body parts for fun and profit..

For someone who CHOOSES to ignore these horrible disgusting videos in favor of TRYING to score cheap political points??

Reprehensible... Completely and utterly reprehensible...

Michale

Trump says they're all losers and, at this point anyway, he seems to be right on the mark. None of them are out-polling the reality TV game show host.

The bar is set so low, JFC, that there is no bar. The biggest winner depends on one measures it, too.

The problem is that NO ONE seems to be measuring it in any way that counts. :(

Well, the bar is set pretty low, isn't it?

She has a very angry and hostile demeanor that is appealing to angry, hostile baggers, too. She trolled Hillary the Email Anti-christ incessantly in the first pity debate and she lied passionately about a non-existent fetus video in the second debate. Mission accomplished!

Getting a 40 million dollar golden parachute for firing 30,000 people and tanking a company won't wear well. She looks worse than Rmoney. Good luck to her.

You sound like a Fiorina fan, Liz... :D

Michale

Various portents are telling me to walk a little further out on my limb:

I think Trump's poll numbers are going to fade even more over the next week to 10 days, as new polls report in, and old polls are chucked out of the running averages. Ditto Carson. Fiorina's poll numbers looked very good this week, but I think it's likely she's peaked, and I wouldn't be surprised if she starts to fall back a bit...maybe more than a bit. All the talk about the Republican contest will focus on Rubio, who's polling and rank in the polls will rocket up. There will be serious concern (polite term for near panic) in the Bush camp.

Over at THE DEMS, I see Biden trending up, Sanders trending down, Clinton retains top ranking.

It should be a fun week to 10 days if I'm right!

Was it the veracity of her assessments? Perhaps, it was the depth of her policy prescriptions. Or, was it something else?