In other words, a vanity candidate...

I see the Bernie campaign as a cautionary tale to the Left..

"Be careful what you wish for..."

Thank you for answering the question honestly...

Michale

I don't know. Maybe.

He can't possibly rev up the Republican base any more than Hillary does, and he has much more potential to mobilize Democratic votes. He's been in Congress for a reasonable length of time, so he must know his way around inside-the-beltway politics.

If we're going to lose either way, I would rather lose with Bernie than with Hillary. If we're going to win either way, I don't know. I would rather have a president with Bernie's views, if he were equally competent and could work equally well with the far-right (on economic issues) establishment.

However, my guess is that Bernie Sanders is prepared neither to actually run for president, nor to serve as president. I'm guessing he just threw his hat in the ring in order to affect the conversation. That's not the kind of candidate I want.

Hillary's problem is not that she is a liar...

Hillary's problem is that she is a BAD liar...

Michale

Does anyone here HONESTLY want Bernie to be the Dem Candidate for POTUS??

Anyone at all??? :D

Michale

It already IS a campaign theme...

Hillary's disdain and contempt for the media..

It's not only a campaign theme, it's a HILLARY theme..

And Hillary is going to pay the price.. Because you KNOW that the GOP has a whole litany of scandals just waiting in the wings...

It will be the media that will make the determination as to whether or not the scandals get air time...

Hillary should be bending over backwards to get the media on her side...

Michale

Yeah, I saw that Vox piece. A lot of truth to it...

Paula [2] -

I'd like to see her do some Bernie's in some interviews: get the gotcha question and refuse to accept the frame.

Yeah, me too. I love it when politicians directly attack the "conventional wisdom" nonsense from the press, by attacking the very frame of the question itself.

John From Censornati [4] -

Breathe, man, you've got to breathe! Ignore the spin! Take deep breaths!

Heh.

[5] -

Heh. Because bullwhips would provide a less provacative photo, of course...

dsws [7] -

Now there's an idea -- they should have been confined to a float, being pulled along at a steady velocity. I mean, how close do you need to get for a photo of "Hillary walks in a parade"?

Michale [10] -

Holy coincidence, Batman, do we agree on this one? A fake "scandal" ginned up by the media?

I also agree the optics were terrible, but this has the feeling of a "one-day" story, not a campaign theme or anything.

TheStig [11] -

Yeah, a few Republicans were dinged by the media for "slowing down the parade" (including Christie, I believe) which is why I was so confident that the media would have spun the Hillary story so differently if they had indeed been given full access to stop the parade whenever they wanted.

Michale [13] -

Oh, you just know LizM is going to like that one!

:-)

LizM [14] -

Well, there you go!

:-)

-CW

I doubt it. They'll come up with something even worse next time.

Touche'.. You got me on that one. :D

Michale

"One is honored to be of service.."
-Robin Williams, BICENTENNIAL MAN

:D

Michale

I doubt it. They'll come up with something even worse next time.

Here's one just for you....

Despite all that hardship, there is a permanent sunniness about the man {Biden} that wins over even those who don’t share his politics. In a recent interview with the Huffington Post, Republican Sen. Lindsay Graham of South Carolina said of Biden, “He’s the nicest person I think I’ve ever met in politics. He is as good a man as God has ever created.”
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/biden-670860-former-joe.html

:D

Michale

A Jem'Hadar force field gets my vote.. One touch and the reporter is vaporized.. :D

Yes, I have been binge-watching ST:DS9 :D

Michale

Note to Christie Campaign: Use a steam roller. On message, and the candidate is no longer the heaviest object in the parade.

Seriously, nice digging on this one CW!

I agree....

Yea, it's really much ado about nothing. Nothing more than a case of press whinings...

And...

Yea.. It looks really REALLY bad for the Clinton Campaign.. For those who are inclined to be objective anyways...

Michale

Good point, dsws...

There are SOOO many ways the Hillary campaign could have handled it that would be much less damaging in the optics department...

But the campaign chose the WORST possible option, the option that gave the WORST possible optics...

Which leaves us with one of two possibilities..

That TPTB in the Hillary Campaign are playing Quad Tri Dimensional Chess with Machiavellian abandon...

OR

TPTB in the Hillary Campaign are completely tone deaf and have no clue what Middle Class Americans are all about.. That, once they go off script and out into the real world, they fall apart...

I am guessing the latter because Hillary and her Clintonistas just ain't smart enough for the former...

Michale

The problem with all ya'alls claims about Hillary as the victim are very easy to refute...

One only has to put forth the scenario of putting a '-R' after Hillary's name instead of a '-D' and it would be YA'ALL that would be leading the pack holding the torches and pitchforks..

I am also constrained to point out that if ya'all's ONLY defense of Hillary is, "Well, there's no smoking gun!!"......

That's a pretty sad state of affairs....

Michale

I'd like to see her do some Bernie's in some interviews: get the gotcha question and refuse to accept the frame. But Bernie has the luxury of losing, in a way. From my point of view it's got to be Hillary OR Bernie OR who? But not, not, not any one of those republicans. Way too much is riding on this election. I expect she's playing it safe because the stakes for her and the rest of us are so high.

Jonathan Allen has a great piece over on Vox you might enjoy about how we shouldn't really be surprised given the rules that the media has for Hillary.

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/6/8900143/hillary-clinton-reporting-rules

I found this Googling the story as I really hadn't heard it. Stupid writer cave!

-David