That's our POTUS.. A petulant and immature child...

I guess the concept of being the bigger man is lost on our President.. :^/

Michale

Rahm Emanuel Needs Republican Help
http://www.nationaljournal.com/against-the-grain/rahm-emanuel-needs-republican-help-20150317

Looks like the quintessential Democrats needs Republicans to keep his job... :)

I have to admit, I am torn...

As much as I would love to see Rahmbo go down in a humiliating defeat, the revenge MIGHT be sweeter if I am able to remind myself every day of his life that it's REPUBLICANS Rahmbo has to thank for saving his (political) life...

Like I have always said, there isn't any difference between a Democrat Politician and a Republican Politician...

NONE... ZERO.... ZILCH.... NADA.....

Michale

Stick it in your ear, Obama!!!

:D

Michale

TV exit polls show Netanyahu set to retain premiership
Likud ahead or level with Zionist Union in all 3 exit polls, better placed to build coalition; Netanyahu’s efforts in final days drew him level with Herzog; delight in Likud, dismay in Zionist Union; Jewish Home slips

http://www.timesofisrael.com/ballot-stations-open-as-israelis-choose-new-leadership/

Looking good for Israel...

Michale

You watching the Live Updates out of Israel??

Michale

And it would not be overly hyperbolic to say that the survival of Israel is at stake..

If the Left Wing junta is elected, it will all be about appeasement... How much of Israel's soul can they give away in exchange for a few scant moments of peace before the slaughter..

If the goal of the terrorists is to destroy Israel, no amount of appeasement will stay the desire for that goal..

I do have to comment on one funny aspect of the Left Wing's campaign...

Their entire campaign is based on Hope and Change...

Israeli's have a front row seat to the debacle that a "HOPE AND CHANGE" candidate can wrought..

Here's a fervent wish that the Israeli's learn from our.... from MY.... mistake...

Michale

Haven't heard much about the alleged "corruption" case of Senator Bob Menendez...

Apparently, there really isn't any "case"...

It's just King Barack The First letting Menendez know that Menendez opposes the decrees of the King at his own peril...

Obama's idol, apparently, is Richard Nixon... :^/

Michale

"I created my own email server so I wouldn't have to carry 2 devices. It was just a matter of convenience.."
-Hillary Clinton

"Hillary created the private email server so Congress couldn't rifle thru her emails."
-James Carville

And Hillary Clinton is the best candidate the Democrat Party can field!???

Doesn't say much for the Dem Party now does it??

Michale

NOW Al Gore is calling for those scientists who pursue science that disputes the Global Warming religion to be "punished"...

Nothing encourages open science more than PUNISHING those that don't toe the orthodoxy line, eh??

That was sarcasm, in case it was too subtle...

Why stop with punishment!!??

Why not bring back the Witch Trials and the Inquisition???

And you people call this "science"!!???

I have to be honest, I am gabberflasted....

Michale

Exasperating.... iddn't it? :D Ok, sorry.. I am having too much fun at your expense...

But seriously, it all boils down to one simple question..

Could you be wrong about Human Caused Global Warming?? If you can't answer "YES" to that, then you don't have science...

You have faith...

And faith is diametrically opposed to science...

That's what it really all boils down to...

Exasperating.... iddn't it? :D

Ok, sorry.. I am having too much fun at your expense...

But seriously, it all boils down to one simple question..

Could you be wrong about Human Caused Global Warming??

If you can't answer "YES" to that, then you don't have science...

You have faith...

And faith is diametrically opposed to science...

That's what it really all boils down to...

Michale

Exasperating.... iddn't it? :D

Ok, sorry.. I am having too much fun at your expense...

But seriously, it all boils down to one simple question..

Could you be wrong about Human Caused Global Warming??

If you can't answer "YES" to that, then you don't have science...

You have faith...

And faith is diametrically opposed to science...

That's what it really all boils down to...

Michale

Those who challenge the fanatical orthodoxy usually are.. :D

The heathens who believed that the world was flat were VERY "exasperated" by those who said it was not..

The heathens who believed that the earth was the center of the universe and that all revolved around the earth were VERY exasperated by those who claimed this wasn't factual..

So, I consider myself in good company... :D

Michale

97% Study Falsely Classifies Scientists' Papers, according to the scientists that published them
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-study-falsely-classifies-scientists.html#Update2

Read 'em and weep....

That bogus 97% claim is the biggest joke of the whole Climate Change debate...

If you doubt my facts, just ask... :D

Michale

Let me know when you have some..

Because, to date, all you have is agenda driven propaganda...

The only facts you observe are the facts that support your agenda..

That's propaganda...

When you are ready to discuss ALL the facts especially the facts from REAL scientists who don't fudge data to get their grant money, I'll be around.. :D

Michale

Yea??

Tell that to the people in Boston... :D

The sun is a VERY big factor in the planet's Climate. A much larger factor than human beings..

The Earth is still warming.

That's what you claim...

But that is not what science shows..

When 97 percent of the world's scientists agree on something, then the real science is NOT in dispute.

Ohmygods... I thought was I actually dealing with someone who knew a bit what they were talking about..

But you go and spoil that belief with your quote of that UTTERLY ridiculous and totally debunked claim about 97% of scientists..

Let me clue you in on that totally fraudulent claim...

My exact numbers may not be accurate as I am doing it from memory. But the gist has been proven factual..

Some loony toon down in Australia (one of your "scientists) compiled tens of thousands of scientific papers.. Of those, about 12% dealt with Climate Change..

OF those 12%, about 3% stated an actual position on Climate Change...

Of that 3% that stated a claim this loony toon, thru an arbitrary and totally bogus process determined that 97% of that 3% (which is of the 12%) stated that they believe humans are causing climate change..

And if THAT wasn't a bogus enough process, the scientists who actually WROTE the papers said that the loony toon totally disregarded their papers and made claims about them that were totally inaccurate...

So, please tell me again how 97% of scientists throughout the planet agree.... I was too busy laughing the first time you said it..

The facts are on my side, not yours.

No.. The only "facts" that are on your side are the cherry picked facts that you WANT to believe... There are tons of other facts that you ignore because they don't fit your agenda....

Mankind is very capable of changing the planet enough to make it unfit for himself. Just ask the residents of Chernobyl or Fukushima, as just one example.

Isn't it funny how you lecture me on taking isolated sections of the planet (like the United States) and apply it to the planet and ya'all take even MORE isolated sections of the planet (San Francisco and Chernobyl and Fukushima) and do the EXACT thing that you accuse me of...

But, let's go with yours and GT's examples..

The drought in San Francisco hasn't bothered me or my family one iota...

Chernobyl?? Made a great location for DIE HARD 5 and for CALL OF DUTY:MODERN WARFARE II. But as far as impacting the rest of the planet, including my home in FL??

Nope... Didn't feel a thing.. Still don't..

Fukushima?? Not a planet wide catastrophe the Global Warming fanatics claim that Global Warming is...

In short, you have absolutely ZERO evidence that humans will cause the destruction of the planet thru their effect on the planet's climate..

ZERO... NONE.... ZILCH.... NADA....

The mere idea that humans can actually destroy this planet is simply ludicrous... It's the epitome of misplaced self-importance and bloated arrogance..

Tens of billions of dollars has been spent in the last couple decades marketing and lobbying and talking about Human Caused Global Warming..

And what do ya'all have to show for it??

Not a damn thing.. Ya'all line the pockets of con artists like Al Gore and Ricard Branson and say, "We're saving the planet!!!"

The Hysterical Left ain't doing a damn thing about saving the planet.. All they are doing is making the rich richer and the poor and middle class poorer...

Michale

You really are an exasperating individual. I think you just like to argue, because apparently reality, facts, and logic have no effect on you whatsoever. You will stick to what you want to believe no matter what, even with all the evidence proving you wrong.

What other factors besides Man are you talking about? The sun's output? That has decreased, and should lead to global cooling, but it hasn't. Volcanoes? Their output has not changed either. They should also lead to global cooling. The Earth is still warming. Nothing has changed significantly except the increase in greenhouse gases caused by Man.

It is not my claim that the Earth has increased by 1.5 degrees, and the facts do not show otherwise as you contend. The figure in fact comes from NASA data from thermometers all over the world. There has been melting of ice. There is not more ice now than 20 years ago. Again NASA satellite observations of the polar regions proves this. You disputing that objective data like you are is no different than you saying that gravity doesn't exist, the world isn't round, and the sun revolves around the Earth. When 97 percent of the world's scientists agree on something, then the real science is NOT in dispute. You are like the creationist saying that the science of evolution is in dispute, despite the reality that all of modern biology would not make any sense at all without evolution. I can certainly agree that I might be wrong. But scientific consensus does not make that very likely. The facts are on my side, not yours. By the way, the man in the dingy doesn't have to raise the level of the ocean, all he has to do is poke enough holes in his own boat in order to make it sink. Mankind is very capable of changing the planet enough to make it unfit for himself. Just ask the residents of Chernobyl or Fukushima, as just one example.

I am more than willing to entertain the notion that you are unequivocally right and I am totally and completely wrong...Are you? Are you willing to concede that YOU could be totally and completely wrong??

Therein lies the question...

Actually, that's not the pertinent question, at all. The really important question would be to ask what would be the consequences for the planet if you are wrong.

If the rest of us are wrong, there are no negative consequences for the planet as a result of actions taken to mitigate climate change and many positive consequences. You cannot claim the same if you are wrong.

Your last few comments here, by the way, have convinced me that you really have never had a science teacher. :)

My whole point has been the same every time this discussion comes up..

The Science Is NOT Settled..

We don't know enough about the Climate to go monkeying around with things, even if we had the technology to do so... Which we don't...

Anyone who claims that the science is "settled" is pursing a political agenda at the EXPENSE of real science...

Having said all that...

<I.Do you really honestly believe that the first global industrial technological sentient species to exist in the entire history of the planet has no effect on nature on a global scale? Really?

THAT was a logical and rational argument.. And it's one I have addressed before...

Human kind's impact on global climate is like a man sitting in a dingy in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and flopping out his wee wee over the edge to take a piss..

Yea, it's probably not the best thing to happen in the immediate vicinity of the pee'er... The fish in the area might be a tad put out...

But the idea that THAT one guy can raise the level of the oceans and toxify the ENTIRE ocean just by peeing is utterly ludicrous..

Even if you multiply that ONE guy by 10,000 guys all peeing in the ocean at the same time, it's STILL ludicrous to think that those 10K guys can raise the level or pollute the ENTIRE ocean...

So it is with Human Beings and Climate..

On the planet Earth, climate has been changing for BILLIONS of years. Human Kind is a flea on the ass of the lifespan of the planet...

Human's INDUSTRIAL time on the planet is a small MICRO-PIMPLE on the flea that is on the ass of the lifespan of the planet..

The idea that such a micro-pimple can actually affect the Climate??

Ludicrous... Absolutely ludicrous...

But, as I say above..

I am more than willing to entertain the notion that you are unequivocally right and I am totally and completely wrong...

Are you? Are you willing to concede that YOU could be totally and completely wrong??

Therein lies the question...

"Good talk...."
-Dr Rodney McKay, STARGATE: ATLANTIS, McKay And Mrs Miller

:D

Michale

And I can list a bunch of equally accurate "facts" that "prove" what you are saying is wrong...

But that simply re-enforces my overall point..

That the science, the REAL science, is in dispute..

To put it succinctly, I completely and unequivocally agree that you MIGHT be right. The planet MIGHT be heading into a global climate catastrophe that will destroy all life on earth...

Now... Can YOU agree that you might be wrong??

Can YOU concede the possibility that mankind has little to no effect on planetary climate??

My guess is you can't...

Just like a devout Christian cannot concede (or even CONCEIVE) that they might be wrong about the existence of god...

Because their (and yours) position is borne not of logic or facts, but of faith...

And the ONE requirement of faith is total obedience...

On the other hand, my guess could be wrong. :D

Michale

But that's just my point.

Your so-called "scientists" AREN'T modifying their theory..

Their theory has been consistent throughtout..

It's all the fault of human beings.

NO OTHER FACTORS are involved..

They haven't modified that theory one iota...

<I.Yes! That is exactly it. You know that the last time the Earth warmed, it took 10,000 years for it to do so naturally. Now, because of Man, it is doing the same thing by the same amount of temp. increase in only 100 years time! Do you really honestly believe that the first global industrial technological sentient species to exist in the entire history of the planet has no effect on nature on a global scale? Really?

So, yer argument is since human kind has never happened on the planet it MUST be because of man??

Where is the warming now??

Not true Michale! The Earth's surface temp. has warmed by 1.5 degrees over the past few decades. What you are citing and saying, in order to support your denial of global warming, is the average temp. of the entire atmosphere, which you are correct, has not changed. All of the global warming models DO take this into account.

That's your claim...

Yet the facts show different..

Finally, you are conveniently ignoring several things. The retreat and disappearance of glaciers all over the world. The steady loss of ice coverage from both poles. And I don't mean just seasonal increase or decrease or variability from year to year. But a steady loss when measured over decades. Also, the fact that a lot of the energy has gone not into heating up the atmosphere yet, and I stress the word yet, but into heating up the world's oceans, which is what has saved us so far. Coral reefs all over the world have been dying, because as the oceans have warmed, their ph level has changed, and more fresh water from the melting of ice has been dumped into them.

Oh come on.. There is not enough evidence to support those claims as even suppositions, let alone rise to the level of an actual THEORY...

There has been no melting ice. The ice caps are larger than ever with TONS more ice than there was 20 years ago...

Again, this is what the FACTS show...

Human Caused Global Warming has become a religion.. And, like all religions, it relies on the faith of the devoted...

Trying to convince a Global Warming fanatic that we don't know enough about the mechanics of Climate to do anything, even if we DID have the technology to change the Climate (which we don't) is like trying to convince a religious fanatic that there is no god...

It's an exercise in futility because their belief is based on faith and faith alone... They cherry pick their facts that re-enforce their faith and discard the facts that dispute their faith...

Michale

But the Global Warming fanatics only came up with this theory AFTER alleged "wild weather" began...

But guess what Michale? That's what scientists do! Modify their theory to fit new facts. That's the hallmark of science! They aren't ignoring facts that disprove their claims, because their models of global warming predict extremes in weather like we are observing.

Guess what? That has happened since the planet was created...
But NOW it's happening because of human beings??

Yes! That is exactly it. You know that the last time the Earth warmed, it took 10,000 years for it to do so naturally. Now, because of Man, it is doing the same thing by the same amount of temp. increase in only 100 years time! Do you really honestly believe that the first global industrial technological sentient species to exist in the entire history of the planet has no effect on nature on a global scale? Really?

Yet, there hasn't been any statistically significant warming on a global scale in 2 decades!!

Not true Michale! The Earth's surface temp. has warmed by 1.5 degrees over the past few decades. What you are citing and saying, in order to support your denial of global warming, is the average temp. of the entire atmosphere, which you are correct, has not changed. All of the global warming models DO take this into account.

Finally, you are conveniently ignoring several things. The retreat and disappearance of glaciers all over the world. The steady loss of ice coverage from both poles. And I don't mean just seasonal increase or decrease or variability from year to year. But a steady loss when measured over decades. Also, the fact that a lot of the energy has gone not into heating up the atmosphere yet, and I stress the word yet, but into heating up the world's oceans, which is what has saved us so far. Coral reefs all over the world have been dying, because as the oceans have warmed, their ph level has changed, and more fresh water from the melting of ice has been dumped into them.

And ya call this "science"???

"Fascinating"
-Spock

THAT is what a Human Caused Global warming fanatic would do...

And THAT is what has been done for decades...

But if he (or she) is a Human Caused Global Warming fanatic who REALLY needs some grant money to buy a new car, then they would modify the facts to fit their theory...

They would modify temperature data to make things colder in the past so it would LOOK like there has been a warming trend..

But if he (or she) is a Human Caused Global Warming fanatic who REALLY needs some grant money to buy a new car, then they would modify the facts to fit their theory...

They would modify temperature data to make things colder in the past so it would LOOK like there has been a warming trend..

They would talk to other fanatical (so-called) scientists about hiding the decline in temps and pressuring review boards to censure scientists who are not on board with their con..

They would try and censor any dissenting viewpoints with ad honiemem attacks and proclaim "97% of scientists agree" and to stifle debate on the issue, they would claim that the "science is settled"..

THAT is what a Human Caused Global warming fanatic would do...

And THAT is what has been done for decades...

And ALL of that has been done against the back drop of falling temperatures and no statistically significant warming...

And ya call this "science"???

"Fascinating"
-Spock

So let me ask the logical and rational part of you.

If you have a scientist who has a theory and that scientist makes hundreds of models and thousands of predictions based on that theory and EVERY model and EVERY prediction is always wrong.....

What would that scientist do??

Guess what??

Not a SINGLE prediction has come to pass..

Not a SINGLE model has been accurate...

NOT... A... SINGLE.... ONE.....

CW, you can ignore what's in the filter.. :D

Boston breaks seasonal snowfall record with 108.6 inches
http://news.yahoo.com/boston-breaks-seasonal-snowfall-record-108-6-inches-232218057.html

Oh look... GLOBAL WARMING has caused a new snowfall record in Boston!!!

I bet Bostonians would really REALLY like some Global Warming about now, eh?? :D

Remember when British (so called) "scientists" were saying back in 2000 that children will not even know what snow is...

Oh look... GLOBAL WARMING has caused a new snowfall record in Boston!!!

I bet Bostonians would really REALLY like some Global Warming about now, eh?? :D

Remember when British (so called) "scientists" were saying back in 2000 that children will not even know what snow is...

Scientists like that have been making wild-assed predictions like that for decades...

Guess what??

Not a SINGLE prediction has come to pass..

Not a SINGLE model has been accurate...

NOT... A... SINGLE.... ONE.....

Now, you seem like a logical and rational person...

So let me ask the logical and rational part of you.

If you have a scientist who has a theory and that scientist makes hundreds of models and thousands of predictions based on that theory and EVERY model and EVERY prediction is always wrong.....

What would that scientist do??

Well, if he (or she) was a REAL scientist who is ONLY about the science, they would modify the theory to fit the facts...

But if he (or she) is a Human Caused Global Warming fanatic who REALLY needs some grant money to buy a new car, then they would modify the facts to fit their theory...

They would modify temperature data to make things colder in the past so it would LOOK like there has been a warming trend..

They would talk to other fanatical (so-called) scientists about hiding the decline in temps and pressuring review boards to censure scientists who are not on board with their con..

They would try and censor any dissenting viewpoints with ad honiemem attacks and proclaim "97% of scientists agree" and to stifle debate on the issue, they would claim that the "science is settled"..

THAT is what a Human Caused Global warming fanatic would do...

And THAT is what has been done for decades...

And ALL of that has been done against the back drop of falling temperatures and no statistically significant warming...

And ya call this "science"???

"Fascinating"
-Spock

Michale

But the Global Warming fanatics only came up with this theory AFTER alleged "wild weather" began...

EVERYTHING that the Global Warming fanatics point to they have stated AFTER the fact..

How come??

Further, don't you find it a tad ridiculous that if it's really really hot, it's because of Human Caused Global Warming..

If it is really really cold, well, THAT's because of Human Caused Global Warming..

If it's really really dry with no precipitation, it's because of Human Caused Global Warming..

If there are snowstorms on a massive scale, guess what?

THAT's because of Human Caused Global Warming...

It's amazing! EVERY weather event is because of Human Caused Global Warming..

Now, I ask ya.. Do you see ANY similarity between some Global Warming fanatic saying, "It's all because of Global Warming" and some religious fanatic saying, "It's all because of god's will"...

Each fanatic has their own set of "facts" to back up their claims and ignore ANY facts that dispute their claims..

That includes both hot and cold spells, and deluges as well as droughts, all happening with more frequency and intensity.

Guess what? That has happened since the planet was created...

But NOW it's happening because of human beings??

What caused the Medieval Warming Period?? Did human beings time travel to the MWP, set up huge factories to pollute the planet and cause Global Warming then dismantled all those factories and left no trace??

Finally, taking an example from just one region, the USA for example, does not in any way debunk global warming for the entire planet on a global scale!

Yet, there hasn't been any statistically significant warming on a global scale in 2 decades!!

Why didn't all the Human Caused Global Warming models show this??

Why didn't ANY of the hundreds of models and thousands of predictions show this cooling period??

Since we're asking questions, why not field this one..

It's agreed amongst ALL scientists that CO2 concentrations have risen greatly in the past 20 years or so..

Based on ALL the Human Caused Global Warming models and predictions, temperatures SHOULD be rising dramatically..

How come they are not??

You don't know. Scientists don't know...

Until the Human Caused Global Warming fanatics are ready to address ALL the science, rather than just addressing the science that supports their theory, they will never... never... EVER... be about science..

They will always just be fringe fanatics.

They will always be just deniers...

"Dems da facts, Jack!!"
-Bill Murray, STRIPES

Michale

Over in Florida, Rick Scott has solved the problem of climate change, it seems. All the Florida government has to do is to never utter the words "climate change" (or "global warming" or "sea-level rise") and -- Hey, presto! -- these problems will then never happen. Out of sight, out of mind.

Well, talking about it and spending BILLIONS on talking about it hasn't "helped" much, eh??

I mean.. Honestly?? Don't you recall how many cold weather records have been broken the last couple months??

I bet the people up in Boston would really appreciate some "Global Warming", eh? :D

I'm just sayin'...

And I'm just saying, you do know the difference between weather and climate, right? And while the east coast of the USA has broken many cold weather records, the west coast of the USA has broken many warm weather records at the same time! Also, one of the hallmarks of climate change and global warming is wild extremes in weather. That includes both hot and cold spells, and deluges as well as droughts, all happening with more frequency and intensity. Finally, taking an example from just one region, the USA for example, does not in any way debunk global warming for the entire planet on a global scale!

So typical of Obama Diplomacy...

"We agree that enough progress has been made on our talks that we can continue talking.."

Talk, talk, talk....

Diplomats talked with Hitler, too...

Didn't work out too well for Europe....

Jeesus, why won't people learn from history....

Michale

It was a great movie. But it's one I only saw once.. Usually I have to see a movie several times to retain the quotes..

In fairness to everyone else, I'll refrain from naming the movie to give others a chance to guess...

My plan tomorrow is to watch LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY GENTLEMEN... It was a toss up between that and the 3rd of the LOTR trilogy...

And, speaking of Sean Connery (my namesake), he was in two Disney movies featuring Darby O'Gill.. :D

In deference of CW's upcoming trip to the Land o' Irie... :D

Michale

What movie is that from?

Several in fact... I was more into science than into math..

And WAY more than history... History bored me...

It's only when I grew up (a year ago or so :D) that I really began to appreciate history.. :D

Michale

Maybe my science teacher had it all wrong..

Ha! Now, THAT was funny!

Because, I don't believe you had a science teacher.

Heheheheheheheheh

You've probably heard it, but I provide a clip in honor of Saint Patrick's Day, unintended consequences, Newtonian Mechanics and Lego, in no particular order of significance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5RGI3zn20

Let me put it another way...

Can you list for me a single Human Caused Global Warming prediction that has actually occurred??

A specific BEFORE THE FACT Global Warming prediction that has ACTUALLY occurred...

No you can't because it has never happened..

Yet, I can list HUNDREDS of predictions and models that have turned out to be flat out wrong...

And yet, you deny that any of that has relevance..

So... I have to ask...

Who is the "denier"??? :D

Now, it's been a long, long, LONG time since I was in science class in high school (GO HIGHLANDERS!!!! :D)....

But I seem to recall that when one postulates a theory and makes predictions and models based on that theory and those predictions and models all turn out to be, consistently, 100% wrong.....

I seem to recall my science teacher telling me that the theory needs to be adjusted to fit reality..

That adjusting reality to fit the theory is not science...

It's faith...

Maybe my science teacher had it all wrong..

Michale

And did Jeb set up his own private mailserv in his own house so as to have complete and total control over his email trail and to evade FOI requests??

Nope..

Another difference...

Michale

And this is different from Jeb Bush how exactly?

Did Jeb Bush set up his own private server in his own home and use that exclusively to any other email option??

That is exactly how it is "different.."

And HE was the Gov of Florida fer chreest's sake!!

So, on your importance scale, the GOV of FL is MUCH higher than the SecState of the United States... Eh?? :D

Uhhh.... I might have to concede that one, but probably for different reasons.

Common ground.. A wonderful thing. :D

Nice ta see a concession now and again.. :D

Michale

And rightfully so....I love how you guys in the denier camp use near term activities to debunk a long term theorem.

As long as you don't acknowledge ALL the science, rather than just the science that fits the agenda, it's you who is the "denier", my friend. :D

For example..

Me, I prefer to KISS. All one has to do is apply some basic classical science to see the validity of the theorem behind global warming. Just think about it, we are taking a bunch of crap from the ground fracturing it through burning and changing the basic nature of what we took out of the ground and putting those missing elements in to the air, above the ground, then we are taking some of the resultant products and burning them thus putting those resulting elements into the air. There are one or two classical scientists that I can think of right off the top of my head that would probably be saying it is pretty stupid to be doing that.

Yes it is..

Yet the CO2 concentrations have been going thru the roof..

And have the temps, per the current theory, followed suit??

No, they have not..

So, what gives??

Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the theory is wrong??

Can you concede that??

Michale

Ask yourself one simple question..

What would the reaction from the Left be if it were learned that Donald Rumsfield had EXCLUSIVELY used a personal email server for his emails both personal and government?

We all know what they reaction would be..

Once again..

One set of rules for Democrats..

Another set of rules for Republicans..

Michale

ZERO days of rain for January in the SF bay area, a first since we began keeping track of weather. 2 days of rain in February yet another record breaker or how about one of the lowest snow packs on record for the Sierra?

You DO realize that snow is precipitation, right??

I wasn't aware of that, I thought is was something that was just used for recreational purposes out west to ride wooden sticks strapped to your feet in a downward direction on the side of a mountain.

Or

In the case of DFW it causes you to be stuck in a plane on the ground for longer than you are stuck in the air and forces you to spend the night in the admirals club because they aren't used to snow nor do they have mountains to ride sticks in a downward direction.

But I wasn't aware that it was precipitation....Thanks for informing me....

Just another "prediction" that turned out to be flat out felgercarb...

Yet, the theory is unchanged..

And rightfully so....I love how you guys in the denier camp use near term activities to debunk a long term theorem. I also really enjoy how you guys use the very near term weather activities that are part of the long term theorem to "market" your point of view.

There is a reason those of us in the aviation community call them "Weather Guessers" and much like guessing the weather predicting climate change is a science about as accurate as republicans predicting economic doom and gloom that will result from any policy that benefits the middle class (read ACA and Minimum wage or bank regulation or how's about water pollution rules....just to name a few) so i will concede that you are correct in the fact that the predictions are off, however, our climate system is definitely marching towards those predictions.

Me, I prefer to KISS. All one has to do is apply some basic classical science to see the validity of the theorem behind global warming. Just think about it, we are taking a bunch of crap from the ground fracturing it through burning and changing the basic nature of what we took out of the ground and putting those missing elements in to the air, above the ground, then we are taking some of the resultant products and burning them thus putting those resulting elements into the air. There are one or two classical scientists that I can think of right off the top of my head that would probably be saying it is pretty stupid to be doing that.

ahh, FOXTROT, gotta go, need to deal with a boatload of bad guys and blow heading into port....time to jet (literally)...To sum up, climate change is real, the prediction models are exactly that predictions of the future and much like politics predicting the future is not precise, and the only marketing happening here is the deniers corporate interest block marketing their point of view.

But HAAAY who cares as long as we drill, baby drill, to keep our big car driving Walmart way of life going right? after all it won't effect me. Eh?

well it will be few before i get to rebut have fun....

Way ta go, Obama!!!

Just what we need in the US... More sex offenders..

Hay, as long as they vote Democrats, who cares!? :^/

Michale

Wouldn't you agree that the "marketing" of Human Caused Global Warming has been atrocious??

Would you further agree that, if you have to "market" science that it's not science?? It's an agenda..

Michale

For example???

You DO realize that snow is precipitation, right??

:D

My point is, according to the Human Caused Global Warming fanatics, by THIS time we were not even supposed to SEE any snow...

So-called "scientists" in Britain were postulating that our grandchildren would never witness snow..

Just another "prediction" that turned out to be flat out felgercarb...

Yet, the theory is unchanged..

Funny, iddn't it. :D

Michale

And this is different from Jeb Bush how exactly?

And SHE was the US Secretary Of State fer chreest's sake!!

And HE was the Gov of Florida fer chreest's sake!!

NOTHING any GOP'er has done compares to the utter bonehead move Hillary made..

Uhhh.... I might have to concede that one, but probably for different reasons.

I'm just sayin'...

I mean.. Honestly?? Don't you recall how many lack of rain records have been broken the last couple months??

I bet the people up in the sierra mountains would really appreciate some "Global Cooling", eh? :D

I'm just sayin'...I bet you will, but I know, I know, your not a "scientist".

"Grover Norquist is a very, very bad and dangerous man in my opinion." - broken clock Glenn Beck on Wednesday

Really??

Please explain why Hillary said that there are many emails on her server between herself and her husband, but Bill is one record as stating he has only sent 2 emails his entire life and those were both while he was POTUS...

She's lying or Bill is...

Also, please explain why Hillary said that she set up her own server for the convenience of only carrying one device, but she is on record as saying she carries 2 Ipads, a blackberry etc etc etc..

The presser was only "thorough" because the Left ain't too demanding when it's one of their own...

Michale

Hell, Teddy Kennedy went to the Soviet Union and said that he would help the Soviets against Reagan if the Soviets helped Kennedy get elected president!!

Amend that to read:

Hell, Teddy Kennedy sent an emissary to the Soviet Union and said that he would help the Soviets against Reagan if the Soviets helped Kennedy get elected president!!

My bust, Part Duex..... :^/

Michale

I mean, honestly... CW, your CW.COM blog is more secure than Hillary's email server was..

That should read

"Again, ya'all are missing the point..

The point is NOT a non-official server.."

My bust...

Michale

Or imagine Nancy Pelosi would go to Syria and schmooze with the Chemical Weapons King, Assad while Bush was trying to isolate Syria...

Oh wait... We don't have to imagine.. She actually did that with full support of the Democrat Party...

So, tell me again how outrageous the actions of those 47 Republicans were??? :D

I seem to have forgotten while I was reviewing the history of all the times that Democrats and Lefties consorted with and gave comfort to the enemy... :D

Michale

All I am saying is that Democrats have absolutely NO moral authority to wrap themselves in the USA Flag on this issue..

The Democrat Party was the Party of the VietCong during the Vietnam War and was the Party of Al Qaeda in the aftermath of 9/11...

NO... MORAL... AUTHORITY.... period...

Michale

Perhaps a MIROTW award, eh?? :D heh

Michale

Guess that makes Biden a "traitor" doesn't it?? :^/

Cue the calls of "That was different!!"....

Yea, it was different..

It was a Democrat doing it...

Do ya'all want a list of times that Democrats bypassed a GOP POTUS and talked straight to the enemy??

Hell, Teddy Kennedy went to the Soviet Union and said that he would help the Soviets against Reagan if the Soviets helped Kennedy get elected president!!

THAT is 20 times more traitorous than anything the GOP has ever done...

Michale

None of the Left (hysterical or otherwise) condemned Nancy Pelosi when she traveled to Syria to undermine President Bush's attempts to isolate President Never-Met-A-Chemical-Weapon-He-Didn't-Want-To-Use-On-His-Own-People Assad...

Thereby once again proving (as if any more proof is required) that there really isn't any reason to get all giddily comdemny about what the Republicans did...

It's all just partisan politics.. Nothing more..

For the immediacy of his reaction, and for everything he has to say in his own letter, Joe Biden is easily the Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week this week. Tell it like it is, Joe!

http://sjfm.us/temp/biden.pdf

Guess that makes Biden a "traitor" doesn't it?? :^/

This is probably no longer the case, as Democrats now see that the entire exercise is nothing more than crass politics -- Republicans putting party before country -- and now it looks like Republicans are losing Democrats' votes they were counting on

Which makes it even MORE likely that Iran will acquire nuclear weapons..

So now it's DEMOCRATS who are not only putting Party before Country (as if that's anything new for Democrats), they are putting Party before the safety of the WORLD!!

A new low for the Democrat Party...

Over in Florida, Rick Scott has solved the problem of climate change, it seems. All the Florida government has to do is to never utter the words "climate change" (or "global warming" or "sea-level rise") and -- Hey, presto! -- these problems will then never happen. Out of sight, out of mind.

Well, talking about it and spending BILLIONS on talking about it hasn't "helped" much, eh??

I mean.. Honestly?? Don't you recall how many cold weather records have been broken the last couple months??

I bet the people up in Boston would really appreciate some "Global Warming", eh? :D

I'm just sayin'...

Now, most agree that Hillary Clinton actively distrusts and doesn't like the media. There's a reason for this, which Salon helpfully pointed out, offering up some badly-needed historical perspective, pointing out that time when the George W. Bush White House lost a whopping five million emails that they had sent through a non-official server:

Again, ya'all are missing the point..

The point is a non-official server..

The point is that Hillary created her OWN server so that she could evade FOI requests..

A mailserv, I might add, that was ludicrously and criminally insecure...

I mean, honestly... CW, your CW.COM blog is more secure than Hillary's email server was..

And SHE was the US Secretary Of State fer chreest's sake!!

NOTHING any GOP'er has done compares to the utter bonehead move Hillary made..

And she compounded the bonehead move by ignoring it for almost 2 weeks... For which she, most righteously, received the MDDOTW...

But let's be clear.. What she did is far FAR more egregious than simply waiting so long to address it..

How do I know this to be true?? Because if it had been a GOP SecState, the hysterics from the Left (and from Weigantians) would be deafening...

We KNOW this because of the response from the Left over a few private emails by the Bush Administration..

Michale

This Iran letter has left the majority of them fully exposed to anyone who cares to look and see as nothing more than partisan hacks, willing to put their own nation in peril in order to make their political points, obtuse as those points usually are.

Collectively, the Republican Party has become blindly and dangerously destructive - to itself and to its very own nation.

Since 9/11, Republicans have acted out of anger and ignorance and, consequently, have diminished the influence of America in a world that is desperate for American leadership. Particularly since January 20, 2009 and to the present, Republicans have acted in their own selfish and misguided interests at every opportunity in ways that have effectively diminished the stature of the United States of America.

This behavior is wholly unforgiveable and should be more than enough to preclude any of them from assuming the office of the POTUS for a very, very long time.

Vice President Biden, on the other hand, is a whole other breed. That is to say he is a patriot in every sense of the word and a preeminent American statesman - proudly non-partisan when it comes to the conduct of US foreign policy but, at the same time, a profile in political courage when the US behaves in ways inimical to its values and ideals.

It is unfortunate beyond words that Vice President Biden remains a largely unknown and underappreciated force in American politics and is rarely, if ever, mentioned by the mainstream press as a serious presidential candidate in 2016. He has more respect from international leaders than it appears he will ever have from a majority of his fellow citizens.

I just don't understand it ... I hope, at the very least, that many Americans take advantage of the opportunity that another CW.com MIDOTW award presents to thank Vice President Biden for his lengthy and admirable service toward realizing the greatness and promise of America.