Comments on: The Multi-Ring Republican Nomination Circus http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/ Reality-based political commentary Sat, 02 May 2026 07:43:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Who Belongs Where? Categorizing Republican Presidential Wannabes | All-len-All http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56779 Who Belongs Where? Categorizing Republican Presidential Wannabes | All-len-All Tue, 03 Feb 2015 10:01:17 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56779 [...] his blog post The Multi-Ring Republican Nomination Circus, Chris Weigant sorts Republican candidates into six broad groups. Now while I am an admirer of [...] [...] his blog post The Multi-Ring Republican Nomination Circus, Chris Weigant sorts Republican candidates into six broad groups. Now while I am an admirer of [...]

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56712 Michale Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:29:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56712 I have never been sanguine about someone's "turn" as the basis for choosing our POTUS.... Michale I have never been sanguine about someone's "turn" as the basis for choosing our POTUS....

Michale

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56709 TheStig Fri, 30 Jan 2015 19:17:15 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56709 M-12 It's Jeb's turn, if he really wants it. M-12

It's Jeb's turn, if he really wants it.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56708 Michale Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:15:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56708 Looks like Romney may back Christie.. I still think it's Jeb.... :D Michale Looks like Romney may back Christie..

I still think it's Jeb.... :D

Michale

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56706 TheStig Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:35:11 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56706 Re - 7 My theory has collided with reality, Romney has decided not to run!!! It appears that unlike Zaphod Beeblebrox, Romney could not endure exposure to the Total Perspective Vortex. Mitt will always have his car elevator. Car goes..car goes down...car goes up....and so on through the day. http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Total_Perspective_Vortex Re - 7

My theory has collided with reality, Romney has decided not to run!!! It appears that unlike Zaphod Beeblebrox, Romney could not endure exposure to the Total Perspective Vortex.

Mitt will always have his car elevator. Car goes..car goes down...car goes up....and so on through the day.

http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Total_Perspective_Vortex

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56701 Michale Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:30:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56701 And this is why.. <B>Hillary Clinton’s ‘WMD’ moment: U.S. intelligence saw false narrative in Libya</B> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/hillary-clinton-libya-war-genocide-narrative-rejec/ Once you scratch the surface of Hillary Clinton, you see an incompetent bungler who doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground.. And I think that the American people, having survived 8 years of that kind of POTUS, are not willing to elect another one.. Michale And this is why..

Hillary Clinton’s ‘WMD’ moment: U.S. intelligence saw false narrative in Libya
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/29/hillary-clinton-libya-war-genocide-narrative-rejec/

Once you scratch the surface of Hillary Clinton, you see an incompetent bungler who doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground..

And I think that the American people, having survived 8 years of that kind of POTUS, are not willing to elect another one..

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56700 Michale Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:22:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56700 <I>I'll say it again, the electoral college fundamentals don't look better for ANY Republican nominee in '16 than they did in '12 or '08. Whoever comes out of the long and grueling primary process faces the strong likelihood of going down to defeat in November.</I> Unless the Dem candidate is Hillary... Hell, *I* could beat Hillary Clinton.. :D Michale I'll say it again, the electoral college fundamentals don't look better for ANY Republican nominee in '16 than they did in '12 or '08. Whoever comes out of the long and grueling primary process faces the strong likelihood of going down to defeat in November.

Unless the Dem candidate is Hillary...

Hell, *I* could beat Hillary Clinton.. :D

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56677 Michale Thu, 29 Jan 2015 20:03:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56677 <I>President George Bush was responsible, the Republicans were responsible, not Democrats.</I> So... NO DEMOCRATS voted for the Authorization For Use Of Military Force In Iraq??? Once again, your delusions are laid bare... :D Mmmmmmmm This lunch tastes good.. Heh :D Michale President George Bush was responsible, the Republicans were responsible, not Democrats.

So...

NO DEMOCRATS voted for the Authorization For Use Of Military Force In Iraq???

Once again, your delusions are laid bare... :D

Mmmmmmmm This lunch tastes good.. Heh :D

Michale

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56667 TheStig Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:27:58 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56667 I'll say it again, the electoral college fundamentals don't look better for ANY Republican nominee in '16 than they did in '12 or '08. Whoever comes out of the long and grueling primary process faces the strong likelihood of going down to defeat in November. Bush, Christie and Romney are "all looking to amass a mountain of campaign cash from big donors very early on." Bush and Christie have access to these big donors, but neither has a massive personal fortune. Romney can write himself a check to get the rails greased, he's worth, as near as I can determine, $250M. Bush, $5M, Christie about the same. Romney at age 67 is set to retire in style, Bush at 62 needs to ask himself if he should take a long shot at the Presidency or spend the time getting his nest egg in order, which he has positioned himself to do in just a few short years. Maybe better to bank money until '20 and then run against Hillary, he'll be 74 in '24, well past freshness date. Christie is only 52, he can play the long game, in hopes the fundamentals look better. Romney's ability to mobilize money quickly, in the hopes of conquering the big donor tap is an advantage none of the other Establishment types, or long shot pretenders, can match. I think it's likely to prove decisive and he's got nothing better to do. Kasich is a very able politician, from a strategic state, and has positioned himself so he can tack a bit right for the primaries and then a bit left in the presidential election. On the other hand he's '62 with a net worth in J. Bush and Christie territory and has got to be mindful of the risk reward ratio that goes with dark horse run. The wise, or at least not desperate, gambler only bets what he/she can afford to lose. Romney can afford to lose a lot. I'll say it again, the electoral college fundamentals don't look better for ANY Republican nominee in '16 than they did in '12 or '08. Whoever comes out of the long and grueling primary process faces the strong likelihood of going down to defeat in November.

Bush, Christie and Romney are "all looking to amass a mountain of campaign cash from big donors very early on." Bush and Christie have access to these big donors, but neither has a massive personal fortune. Romney can write himself a check to get the rails greased, he's worth, as near as I can determine, $250M. Bush, $5M, Christie about the same. Romney at age 67 is set to retire in style, Bush at 62 needs to ask himself if he should take a long shot at the Presidency or spend the time getting his nest egg in order, which he has positioned himself to do in just a few short years. Maybe better to bank money until '20 and then run against Hillary, he'll be 74 in '24, well past freshness date. Christie is only 52, he can play the long game, in hopes the fundamentals look better.

Romney's ability to mobilize money quickly, in the hopes of conquering the big donor tap is an advantage none of the other Establishment types, or long shot pretenders, can match. I think it's likely to prove decisive and he's got nothing better to do.

Kasich is a very able politician, from a strategic state, and has positioned himself so he can tack a bit right for the primaries and then a bit left in the presidential election. On the other hand he's '62 with a net worth in J. Bush and Christie territory and has got to be mindful of the risk reward ratio that goes with dark horse run.

The wise, or at least not desperate, gambler only bets what he/she can afford to lose. Romney can afford to lose a lot.

]]> By: LewDan http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56666 LewDan Thu, 29 Jan 2015 18:23:22 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56666 LOL, Sure, Michale, when a Republican Congress does things, and the President is a Democrat, the Democrats are responsible for everything. Unless, of course, good things happen, in which case all praise owes to the Republican Congress! And when a Republican Congress and a Republican President screw the pooch the Democrats get to be responsible too! No. They do not. Bush acted unilaterally to eject UN inspectors and go to war in Iraq. Bush DID start the war. Bush, as Commander in Chief, was responsible for the conduct of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. President George Bush was responsible, the Republicans were responsible, not Democrats. It isn't that Democrats "fail to remember." Its that your revisionist history is not what actually happened. Democrats only supported Bush in his role as CiC, as the Constitution, and patriotism, requires. "The Decider™" made all the decisions. And bears all the responsibility. LOL,

Sure, Michale, when a Republican Congress does things, and the President is a Democrat, the Democrats are responsible for everything. Unless, of course, good things happen, in which case all praise owes to the Republican Congress!

And when a Republican Congress and a Republican President screw the pooch the Democrats get to be responsible too!

No. They do not. Bush acted unilaterally to eject UN inspectors and go to war in Iraq. Bush DID start the war.

Bush, as Commander in Chief, was responsible for the conduct of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. President George Bush was responsible, the Republicans were responsible, not Democrats.

It isn't that Democrats "fail to remember." Its that your revisionist history is not what actually happened. Democrats only supported Bush in his role as CiC, as the Constitution, and patriotism, requires. "The Decider™" made all the decisions. And bears all the responsibility.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56661 Michale Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:36:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56661 <I>start a Middle Eastern oil war</I> I know all the Hysterical wingers like to bash the Bushes for "starting" a mid east oil war.. What they always fail to remember is that those mid east oil wars belong to Democrats as much, if not more, as they do to the Bushes.. Facts.. Such inconvenient things for the rabidly partisan... :D Michale start a Middle Eastern oil war

I know all the Hysterical wingers like to bash the Bushes for "starting" a mid east oil war..

What they always fail to remember is that those mid east oil wars belong to Democrats as much, if not more, as they do to the Bushes..

Facts.. Such inconvenient things for the rabidly partisan... :D

Michale

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56656 John From Censornati Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:45:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56656 I think that Jebbie belongs in the neocon category. The Bush family pattern is to pretend to be "compassionate" or "moderate" and, if elected, start a Middle Eastern oil war that we can finance with tax cuts for the 1% or magic or something. They also choose some group to demonize along the way. Mexicans are the Republican demonization target du jour, but he likes them, so he'll probably have to go black since gay marriage is so 2004. I think that Jebbie belongs in the neocon category. The Bush family pattern is to pretend to be "compassionate" or "moderate" and, if elected, start a Middle Eastern oil war that we can finance with tax cuts for the 1% or magic or something. They also choose some group to demonize along the way. Mexicans are the Republican demonization target du jour, but he likes them, so he'll probably have to go black since gay marriage is so 2004.

]]> By: John From Censornati http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56653 John From Censornati Thu, 29 Jan 2015 11:13:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56653 I already love Rmoneybot 3.0's Authenticity campaign. He's gonna show us the true inner mormon Willard and highlight the fact that all previous versions were <i>fake</i>. What could go wrong? I'm pulling for him although I'm surprised to learn that Granny Clampett from Arizona is in the mix. She may ultimately get my endorsement. I already love Rmoneybot 3.0's Authenticity campaign. He's gonna show us the true inner mormon Willard and highlight the fact that all previous versions were fake. What could go wrong? I'm pulling for him although I'm surprised to learn that Granny Clampett from Arizona is in the mix. She may ultimately get my endorsement.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56652 Michale Thu, 29 Jan 2015 10:08:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56652 You've laid out all the candidates quite nicely, CW.. Kudos... Just for fun, I am going to put my pick out there now.. Barring any *major* unforeseen catastrophe, Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate for POTUS.. Michale You've laid out all the candidates quite nicely, CW..

Kudos...

Just for fun, I am going to put my pick out there now..

Barring any *major* unforeseen catastrophe, Jeb Bush will be the GOP candidate for POTUS..

Michale

]]> By: Pastafarian Dan http://www.chrisweigant.com/2015/01/28/the-multi-ring-republican-nomination-circus/#comment-56650 Pastafarian Dan Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:53:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=10238#comment-56650 I have to say that I think any of the "Governors Group" who enter the GOP Presidential Primary will really be running for the VP spot on the ticket. The "Tea Party Group" all have too much ego to be considered as running for VP (although none of them would turn it down). The "Evangelicals" are too much "True believers" to be running for VP, and some of them could, depending on who the candidate is, even turn down the VP spot on the ticket. The other two groups are too "out-there" even for the VP spot. I have to say that I think any of the "Governors Group" who enter the GOP Presidential Primary will really be running for the VP spot on the ticket. The "Tea Party Group" all have too much ego to be considered as running for VP (although none of them would turn it down). The "Evangelicals" are too much "True believers" to be running for VP, and some of them could, depending on who the candidate is, even turn down the VP spot on the ticket. The other two groups are too "out-there" even for the VP spot.

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