No matter what happens, in Wingnutistan its always "heads I win. Tales you lose." Because they are all simply chronic liars.

And with Democrats, everything is the Republicans fault, even when Democrats have a SUPER MAJORITY and a LOCK on all aspects of government..

So, what's yer point??

As I said, LD.. You are the ONLY person on the planet that believes Obama never lied...

That should tell you something about your "facts"...

Michale

No matter how much hero-worship and I LOVE OBAMA and OBAMA IS MY GOD you inject into the discussion, the fact remains..

When someone says, "I promise to do A, B and C" without ANY conditions and exceptions and those promises are not kept, THAT is a broken promise...

Obama lied.. Obama broke promises...

These are the facts..

Michale

And exercising prosecutorial discretion is administering the laws and the government of the United States. Which is precisely what we have a President for.

As I've said, you wingers have simply been lying. And you continue to do so.

When Bush was President he was the "Unitary Executive", "The Decider." He had a right to the people of his choice on his team. He wasn't responsible for anything that happened on his watch. The Republican majority had a "mandate" from the people to do whatever they wanted.

Obama wins election and suddenly the President has no authority to decide anything. He's not entitled to appoint anyone Republicans object to for any reason at all. Even if none of their objections have anything at all to do with the appointees' qualifications. Obama isn't even entitled to a team, much less a team of his choosing. But Obama is responsible for anything that happens anywhere. And Republicans have a sudden "duty" to be "the opposition party."

Funny isn't it. When Republicans win an election they've a "mandate" to do as they please. When they lose an election they've a mandate to do as they please.

No matter what happens, in Wingnutistan its always "heads I win. Tales you lose." Because they are all simply chronic liars.

The problem is that if you believe that Obama's promises are "without any conditions" then you are ignorant and, or, delusional. No one has to tell you the limits of Presidential power. It's your obligation as a citizen to know them.

If you're voting for the President of the United States and you don't even know what that means, or what constraints and "conditions" that entails, it isn't the President who's at fault for misleading you. It's you who are at fault for being too ignorant to meet your obligations as a citizen to make informed and rational decisions about our governance.

But here on Earth, when someone says, "I promise to do A, B and C" without ANY conditions and exceptions and those promises are not kept, THAT is a broken promise...

Like I said... On your planet, it might be different..

Michale

That's a reflection of the Republican Congress, not of Obama not keeping promises.

Of course it is..

Obama The Messiah is perfect and walks on water. He doesn't make mistakes, he is never wrong and everything is the fault of the evil terrorist Republicans..

Riiigggghhhhhtttttt...

I wonder if you really believe that crap....

Michale

I wonder if you realize how utterly frak'ed up that sounds, considering how Obama has ignored Congress and did whatever the hell he wanted....

Michale

No one is asking for the government to provide it.. But, because of TrainWreckCare, MILLIONS of people lost insurance they were PROMISED they wouldn't lose..

What's so hilarious is that YOU are the only person on the planet who thinks Obama kept his promises..

Now THAT's funny.. :D

Michale

That's a reflection of the Republican Congress, not of Obama not keeping promises.

Obama's "promises" are promises to pursue policies with Congress. The President simply hasn't the power to enact most policies on his own.

Obama simply isn't to blame for the Republicans' refusal to work with the President--on anything!

You wingers just lie. Have been for for years.

Obamacare did "preserve the right of Americans who have insurance to keep their doctor and their plan." Having a right to something doesn't mean the government will provide it. That's the lie you wingers gave been promoting. It's up to the individual to obtain what they want within the law.

You've a right to be a billionaire. Doesn't mean the government owes you all the money you could want. Or even a way to get it on your own.

Obama did his job. No one, including Republicans, had any right to expect Obama to determine our laws--Not his job. No one, including Republicans, had a right to make all our problems magically vanish--Not what he was elected to do.

Obama's job is to administer the laws passed by Congress. To set priorities, establish foreign policy, command the military, and see to the overall administration of the government.

The Presidency is only one-third of the government. Obama's promises were, and are, not about the government, they were about the Presidency. You wingers simply lie, Michale.

Like I said, Michale, you want to judge Obama, and blame him, for what Republicans have done. Not based on what Obama himself has done.

Yea, I don't think ANYONE would buy into the total BS that Obama has actually kept all of his promises...

At least not anyone who has ANY semblance of being at least SOMEWHAT grounded in reality...

Michale

MONTAGE: 112 UNKEPT PROMISES FROM EARLIER OBAMA SOTU ADDRESSES
As President Obama prepares to make new promises tonight, here’s a look back at those not yet fulfilled
https://grabien.com/story.php?id=20735

Yea... SURE he has...

"ObamaCare will preserve the right of Americans who have insurance to keep their doctor and their plan."
-President Obama, STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH, 2010

Yea... SURE Obama has kept all his promises. :^/

That's "what the facts clearly show."

You have no facts...

You just have hero worship...

Michale

I've no problem at all saying it. Or meaning it.

Obama is not King. His job is to administer America. He doesn't get to make the law. He doesn't get to determine the budget. Those major constraints on the Presidency are intentional. Their purpose is to limit the President's power to do things. Obama has met his responsibilities.

Wingers, like Michale, like to pretend that the President is responsible for what Republicans do. They claim the President owns the economic disaster Republicans created (but not the recovery Obama oversaw.)

That Obama is responsible for Republicans refusing to support anything supported by Obama. That Obama is responsible for Congress accomplishing not a thing for the people for two terms now. Even though Republicans promised not to support anything Obama supported on inauguration day, as a partisan strategy, not a response to any actual Obama initiatives.

Obama has indeed kept his promises to the best of his ability. The problem hasn't been Obama's lack of good faith, the problem has been the Republicans' lack of good faith.

That's "what the facts clearly show."

Kudos on the movie/tv quote...

The causality of my presence here is almost complete ... :D

Michale

I'll be here!! :D

I wouldn't miss Obama's Hope-Fest AKA Yes-We-Can-But-No-We-Can't funapalooza!! :D

Hope their's a laugh-track...

Yea, I know, I know.. I pick on Obama a lot. But ya'all gotta admit that he is NOT the POTUS *any* of us thought he would be... No one here can say with a straight face that Obama has fulfilled the promise he had in 2008...

Michale

Awww, who am I kidding!?? I LOVE to be a stick in the mud!! :D

But seriously.. Ya'all go on and on about how the GOP is against the poor and middle class and the Democrats are the poor/middle class champions....

Yet the facts clearly show that, under Obama and the Democrats, the rich got richer and the poor and middle class got scrooed...

So, as I am wont to do, I would humbly suggest that the Left clean their own glass house first before casting stones...

I'm just sayin'...

Michale

Huh? It's been a nearly complete success, both as politics and as policy. We now have one of the highest Gini coefficients in the world, and full Republican control of Congress.

Fry: True. But someday I might be rich, and people like me better watch their step!

-Futurama