In the here and now, who is more popular. Bush Or Obama??

Numerous polls clearly show that Bush is more popular than Obama.

That pretty much says it all..

Michale

Yet, under Bush's leadership, Iraq was an outstanding military success that Obama frak'ed up to hell... Panetta said so and, around here, Panetta is the cat's meow.. Ask Bashi...

Obama makes Bush look like a great leader.. Which, granted, doesn't say very much because, in most things, Bush IS a great leader...

But Obama makes CARTER look like a great leader..

Now THAT says a lot....

Michale

There is a corollary to the NOTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE SUCCESS mantra..

NOTHING FAILS LIKE FAILURE..

Obama's Coward Of The Country Doctrine has failed at every turn..

Even in Syria it's failing spectacularly..

These are the facts...

Michale

It's no secret that I think President Obama's foreign policy has been less than effective on a number of issues.

However, I don't chalk most of that up to poor judgement or even bad polices. This is a very complicated world we live in and, consequently, the policy choices for any POTUS have become limited, both in scope and effectiveness.

Also, as far as the Middle East is concerned, the foreign policy choices have been limited by one disastrous foreign policy decision by President Obama's predecessor. Much - but, certainly not all - of US foreign policy in this part of the world revolves around cleaning up the mess left in the wake of the Iraq war and the utter mismanaging of the Afghanistan war.

If you want to attach 'incompetent' to any US administration policy or strategy or doctrine, then look no further - literally - than the last Bush administration.

So, while I think the Obama doctrine has been, so far, ineffective in a number of foreign policy areas, I believe Obama is on the right track and, with a lot of persistence and increased US leadership, much progress can be made during the last years of his administration.

"Hasta Lasagna, don't get any on ya"
-Emilio Estevez, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE

:D

Michale

It sounds, to me, like you understand perfectly well what I said and what I meant to say.

Michale,

Later.

I am also not the only one who has seen that Obama has been called "incompetent"... At least by Leon Panetta...

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=%22Leon+Panetta%22+Obama+Incompetent

A man whose integrity as a loyal Democrat is beyond reproach...

One has to ask.. Why would Panetta, of all people, say these things if it weren't true???

Clinton, a case can be made... Gates, OK that MAY be iffy...

But if Panetta is saying the same things that Clinton and Gates are saying, then it's a pretty sure bet that what they are all saying is dead on ballz accurate...

Wouldn't you agree??

Michale

http://online.wsj.com/articles/kim-strassel-america-is-war-on-women-weary-1412900814

Americans are sick and tired of all the bogus hype and Democrats are LOSING ground because of it..

Michale

Really?? Fine.. Debate the points then and give me examples of Obama's competence...

One point they do not make, however, is the president was and is incompetent.

Actually, they do... They don't use the exact word, but it's clear from Panetta's words and Clinton's words and Gates' words that Obama is an incompetent leader...

Now, we can discuss what the meaning of 'is' is until the cows come home, but if a person says that a leader is "feckless" and "lost his way" and made mistake after mistake after mistake, "incompetent" is surely a word that comes to mind...

I can understand why you don't agree with the word and I understand that it's not a word that YOU would choose to use..

So, no former Obama official has made a claim of presidential incompetence. YOU are the only one around here making such a fantastical claim that they did.

Let me put it this way.. If we were in a court of law and Clinton, Gates and Panetta were witnesses and they were questioned and their testimony was what it was in their books and I used the word "incompetent" to sum up their testimony and you would object because NONE of the witnesses actually used the word "incompetent" you would be overruled. Because, while it IS true that none of the "witnesses" used the word "incompetent" it is also true that what the "witnesses" DID say amounts to the same thing...

I am also constrained to point out that you have all but stated that, in the vein of foreign policy, Obama is incompetent.. You may have never used that exact word, but it's been clear that you and I are on the same page, as far as Obama's competency in foreign affairs is concerned..

Or did I read too much into our previous discussion in that area??

Michale

Not sure which implications you want to suggest, in the case of Michale's actual and hypothetical credibility.

ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points [322] -- Games The Whole Family Can Play...

Often, they do not, and, this is just one example that does not stand up under minimum scrutiny.

Also, your simple arguments are notoriously just that - simple statements of "fact" that often have no basis in reality.

And they ALL say the same thing.. That Obama is an incompetent leader..

Actually, Clinton, Panetta and Gates say no such thing. They do point out what they feel are President Obama's mistakes, errors in judgement and shortcomings in leadership when it comes to matters of foreign policy. The points they make are fully arguable and debatable. One point they do not make, however, is the president was and is incompetent.

In the case of the Geithner book, Stress Test, we are talking about the president's very competent handling of the most destructive financial crisis since the Great Depression. The competency demonstrated by President Obama on this file begins and ends with his extremely adept appointment of Secretary Geithner.

So, no former Obama official has made a claim of presidential incompetence. YOU are the only one around here making such a fantastical claim that they did.

Don't make things up, Michale, and you will find that your credibility around here improves, exponentially.

But, you raise an interesting conundrum...

If a leader IS incompetent doesn't it behoove the HONORABLE person to let others know??

To "sound the alarm", so to speak??

There is really no reason for Gates or Panetta or even Clinton to lie...

If 3 different people who are respected and respectable all make the same claim independent of each other, and a 4th person who is as "in the know" as the other 3 remains silent???

What does that say about the integrity of that 4th person??

Michale

That's what many here said about Panetta... :D

I guess it's an Eye Of The Beholder type thing.. :D

Michale

And they ALL say the same thing.. That Obama is an incompetent leader..

Secretary Geithner's view of the leadership of President Obama is the polar opposite of your quote above.

Also, amongst all of the former Obama administration officials cited in your comments and links, Geithner, alone, stands head and shoulders above the lot of them in terms of personal character and integrity, intelligence, and patriotism.

I have always been surprised that you, of all people, would take such a dim view of this most underrated Secretary of the Treasury.

And the 4.6% is not even a hard number, but an assumption based on the idea that the growth will remain constant throughout the subsequent quarters...

That's are guv'ment... Always projecting the rosiest BS possible...
:D

Michale

No it didn't. That's an annualized rate, 4.6% per year. In other words, it grew 1.13% in the quarter.

This is why I roll my eyes when ya'all complain about the Right Wing millionaires and billionaires that are the sole cause of the problems in this country..

Ya'all conveniently leave out all the Left Wing millionaires and billionaires that are just as much to blame...

Proof positive that ya'alls alleged populist message is nothing more than thinly disguised partisan and ideologically based...

So, why not be a little more honest about things??

You don't have a problem with millionaires and billionaires controlling this country as long as they support Democrats...

Michale

I will conditionally concede that I might have been wrong about Geinther.. :D

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/10/07/the-insiders-panetta-gates-and-clinton-are-trying-to-tell-us-something-about-obama/

This article details the revelations from Gates and Panetta and Clinton. It doesn't mention anything about Geinther. So the previous article I quoted was likely not entirely accurate... :D

Michale

I'll read the book when I get time and point them out to you.. :D

You do that.

It would be easier just to admit you were wrong about the Geithner book. It's a long one. :)

Very powerful message...

Unemployment for 19-29 age group 15.8%... Unemployment for black Americans in that age group is 23.8%...

All of this can be laid at the feet of Democrats who thought it was more important to pursue their partisan agenda at the expense of the country and it's people..

Democrats don't DESERVE control of the Senate...

It's that simple...

Michale

Geinther's book was the most complimentary to Obama of all the Kiss and Tell books that have come out. But there were passages that took Obama to task for a variety of bone head moves...

I'll read the book when I get time and point them out to you.. :D

Michale

The FT.COM link above outlines Geinther's claims regarding Obama's competence...

I can't get at it as I have used my FT allotment for the day, but that's what it said...

Michale

And they ALL say the same thing.. That Obama is an incompetent leader..

False.

Give me the page reference(s) in Stress Test where Geithner says that or implies that.

Speaking from strictly a PR perspective, ya just gotta admire the banner headline on Drudge this morning..

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=HN.608031553965526461&w=300&h=300&c=0&pid=1.9&rs=0&p=0

Brilliant.... Just brilliant...

Michale

Talking about Panetta again...

His isn't the only book out...

An aide to Richard Holbrooke wrote a book. Hillary wrote a book.. Gates wrote a book. Geinther wrote a book... And now Panetta has a book..

Obama the victim as officials rush into print before sell-by date
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/d32a08c0-4e3c-11e4-bfda-00144feab7de.html#axzz3FXxbEtd2

And they ALL say the same thing.. That Obama is an incompetent leader..

Are they ALL wrong?? Do they ALL have an agenda???

Or, would you like to employ Occam's Razor and conclude that the most likely explanation, that Obama IS in fact an incompetent leader, is the correct one...

I'm just saying... :D

Michale

In This Election, Obama’s Party Benches Him
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/08/us/politics/in-this-election-obamas-party-benches-him.html?_r=0

Com'on, people!! Ya'll just HAVE to laugh at the irony... :D

"Oh how the mighty have fallen..."
-Guinan, STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION, True Q

:D

Michale

Nah. We won't. Because eventually things will get so bad that people will start questioning the purpose of corporations.

Yea??

They gonna give up their Ipads and their Iphones and their air-conditioning and their cars??

Not bloody likely...

I just wonder at what point this tipping occurs.

It hasn't happened yet despite all the "horrors" that ya'all claim...

Ya know, it just hit me..

Ya sound like christians who prophesize the End Of Days...

"There's going to be a reckoning!!! Repent your sins!!!! REPENT!!! REPENT!!!!"

:D

JFC,

They definitely produce more weapons and war than we need.

Corporations produce war now??

More fear mongering... :^/

Ya know, if you Lefties would act like you CLAIM to act rather than act like you accuse Republicans of acting, this country would be more like the utopia you envision. It would definitely be better off...

But no... Ya'all are simply intolerant of any ideology that you don't agree with...

I really miss the liberals of my childhood and young adulthood.. They were annoying, but at least they practiced what they preached...

Michale

They definitely produce more weapons and war than we need.

Nah. We won't. Because eventually things will get so bad that people will start questioning the purpose of corporations.

Especially when a few corporations manage to produce more than everyone needs.

Originally, they were designed with very specific charters related to the public good.

Today, many of them, especially in finance, do little more than take a cut off the top. What happens when labor is no longer needed?

I just wonder at what point this tipping occurs.

-David

The Left wants to say to corporations:

"Ya know, it would be really nice if ya'all accepted the higher taxes and the increase costs of over-regulation and the increased cost of paying higher wages so that people who are lazy and un-motivated can still have a luxurious lifestyle... I know, I know.. It's going to cut into your profits and make your business un-viable... But honestly.. Did you go into business to make money or did you go into business to help those who are lazy and less motivated than you???"

THAT is the exact kind of "business plan" that the Left wants corporations to follow..

And, when they don't, the left demonizes them and calls them names and does their best to make their lives miserable...

Now, wouldn't it be MUCH better if they Left approaches businesses and corporations and say:

"Ya know.. We get it.. You are in business to make money.. We get that.. But, see, there is a way that ya'all could STILL make money but yet also help those who are less fortunate and who have had some bad breaks.. What can WE do to help you reach that goal???"

THAT is how you approach a problem.

THAT is how you get things done..

But The Left is much more interested in fixing the blame rather than fixing the problem..

The Left is MUCH more interested in demonizing ANYONE who doesn't toe their partisan, their ideological line..

We see it here in Weigantia all the time...

Tolerance my left arse cheek!! :D

As long as the Left insists on IMPOSING their will rather than compromising, then we will always be where we are right now...

Michale

I am interested in solutions..

I am just not interested in fueling the Democrat delusions that the world is going to end day after tomorrow because greedy corporations are not donating all their money to Democrats... :D

You say you are only interested in solutions..

But your solutions seem to be lockstep with a partisan agenda that is slightly above fairy-tale status...

If you want to discuss REAL solutions for the REAL world instead of huggy kissy koom-bye-ya let's be excellent to each other type solutions.... Well, you know where I am... :D

Michale

I return you to your jihad against Democrats.

-David

Reward businesses who figure out how to reduce greenhouse gases.

So, basically, you create a fantasy problem, then reward companies by making them not pay as much to address this fantasy problem..

Somehow I think you are missing the concept here.. :D

I don't give a shit who does it. But we can't keep sticking our heads in the sand.

If Republicans did something like this, hell, I'd vote for them.

Democrats don't do ANYTHING like that, yet you still vote for them...

Non-sequitor...

What I know we can't keep doing is rewarding businesses for stealing from people and f*cking up the planet (i.e. the current situation)

A no business is stealing from people..

and

2 no business is f*cking up the planet...

So, you are starting from 2 false premises based solely and completely on partisan ideology with absolutely NO FACTS to back it up...

Hmmmmmmm I think we might have hit on the problem here... :D

Michale

Fair enough. I don't care how we go about it.

One example of an incentive to "do the right thing" might look like carbon offsets.

Reward businesses who figure out how to reduce greenhouse gases.

I don't give a shit who does it. But we can't keep sticking our heads in the sand.

If Republicans did something like this, hell, I'd vote for them.

What I know we can't keep doing is rewarding businesses for stealing from people and f*cking up the planet (i.e. the current situation)

-David

hehehehehhe It's never really been an issue before.. We have had some real doozys too.. :D

As far as the odds thing goes, if yer not comfortable with Democrats' chances, if you think that 2014 is going to make 2010 look like a family picnic by comparison, I spose I could be generous with ya'all...

No sense in adding insult to injury for ya'all, eh?? :D

Michale

Basically, you want businesses and corporations to put people first, ahead of profits..

Yea.. Good luck with that.. :D

It's a nice dream... But it's ONLY a dream...

In the REAL world, you have to give businesses an incentive to do the right thing rather than penalizing them when they don't...

Because, if all you use is a stick and ignore the carrot, businesses and corporations will give a big mighty FRAK U and take their business elsewhere...

And, unless Democrats want to impose a dictatorship (which wouldn't surprise me a bit) there ain't a damn thing the Left can do about it if businesses decide to pull up stakes and re-locate...

And the Left has absolutely no one to blame but themselves for the ensuing joblessness..

It's like those morons in the states that passed totally stoopid gun control legislation and then were shocked when gun and gun accessory manufacturers gave a big mighty FRAK U to those states and left...

Democrats need to THINK before they strike...

Michale

I think we could get the PooBah in big trouble with this sort of fund raising enterprise!
His avatar over over at HuffPo might need a hat covering the face.

Touch screens be dammed!

"Why do you need odds???"

You have to ask? You're the one opening up the **ahem*** "futures market." I wager when I like the odds. Profit motive. I think the race looks advantage Red, but fairly even. What's the point of fairly even bet???? But, you seem to think it's around 84% red win. That would be a bit north of one will get you five. It's your establishment. Post your payouts.

Seriously though, I we get the PooBah in big trouble with this sort of fund raising enterprise!
His avatar over over at HuffPo might need a hat covering the face.

Cheaper 3rd world labor.

Now you are correct that there are less regulations and people are poorer in 3rd world countries.

What corporate special interest groups want is to do the same with our country, turn it into a 3rd world "paradise" w/ no regulations and mass poverty and cheap labor.

You can gamble if you want and think somehow you & your family will "win". You probably will but your kids or kids kids probably won't.

I think a better way would be to reverse the trend and stop buying all the BS trickle down economics and start figuring out what we need for an economy that works for more people.

Why wouldn't we, for example, fight for an equal worldwide playing field? Why shouldn't China have better regulations?

-David

This is why Democrats are going to lose the Senate...

They can't articulate a message...

Michale

It's the standard MO around here. Take one isolated case and paint the entire issue with it...

And yes, I am guilty of that at times as well..

The difference is, I admit it.. :D

Michale

The auto industry outsourced all the jobs.

And WHY did the auto industry outsource all the jobs??

Because Democrats over-regulated and made it too expensive to do business in the state..

The point is, ya'all point to California and say, "SEE!! Socialism works!!!" Yet, you ignore the places where Conservatives are doing great and Democrats are doing crappy...

It's the standard MO around here. Take one isolated case and paint the entire issue with it...

TS,

What odds are you offering?

Why do you need odds??? Can't the Democrats stand on their own... er... ahem... "merits"?? :D

Michale

What odds are you offering?

The auto industry outsourced all the jobs.

The same is true for many of the rust belt cities up here. They've lost manufacturing because companies decided they could have bigger profits if they took advantage of 3rd world countries for labor.

Over and over the story repeats. Schenectady w/ GE. Rochester with Kodak and IBM. Erie, PA with GE. Pittsburgh with steel.

Etc, etc.

Wait ... I've got it! I think what we need to do is give these companies some more tax breaks so they can pay less and move more jobs overseas!***

-David

***This message brought to you by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, a consortium of corporations united for the common purpose of shifting costs onto the American people.

Now THAT was funny!!!!! :D

Michale

Even Bill Clinton, Democrats Premier Serial Sexual Harasser agrees with me...

"They are really running against the president, aren't they? They see these polls, the president is unpopular in Arkansas and, yeah, the economy is coming back but nobody believes it yet because you don't feel it. "

Michale

Also, a little too obvious..

Michale

Or are those a little too obvious?

HuffPost Model Estimate

Mitch McConnell 47.7%
Alison Lundergan Grimes 43.6%
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2014-kentucky-senate-mcconnell-vs-grimes

That's what happens when the electorate is given proof that politicians lie thru their teeth to get elected..

Whose yer daddy!?? WHOSE YER DADDY!!! :D

Michale

It's time to admit the facts, people.. The American people elected Democrats to do right by this country and the Democrats have been found wanting...

These are the facts. And they are indisputable...

Michale

Amend that to say:

That poll was likely taken BEFORE Grimes campaign people were video taped saying that Grimes is lying thru her teeth as to her support for coal...

My bust....

Michale

Yea... Wishful thinking...

That poll was likely taken BEFORE Grimes campaign people saying that Grimes is lying thru her teeth as to the support for coal...

Grimes is history, pure and simple....

Michale

http://www.whas11.com/community/blogs/political-blog/Grimes-now-leads-McConnell-in-barnburner-Kentucky-Senate-race-278242261.html

Any takers??? :D

Michale

And DK is moving up, more in line with WAPO...

Sorry to be the messenger that ya'all want to kill :D

Regardless of whether it's 51 or 59, it's becoming ever so clearer that Congress will belong to Republicans.....

Michale

Michale

Huffpollster just bumped the race to 1:1, going in the opposite direction of WAPO. Is this a blip or a pack trend? Probably blip, but we'll see.

Sorry to blighten your day Michael:-)

Not really. WAPO tends to track up and down with the pack....they just consistently give the Republicans appreciably better odds than the other 3 odds giving sites I track. Everyone is being driven by the same polls. It's how different shops weight the polls, and the "fundamentals" that account for different prediction. Or should. What I've noticed at WAPO is a bit disturbing....at the very least from the standard of transparency, which I weight highly in terms of "consumer satisfaction."

I like like the NYT senate site the best. Rank ordered probabilities for each state, Blue Red (and now green). Plus, the nifty little monte carlo game which is worth taking a hundred rides on! Let's hope they keep this feature for the 2016 presidential race - and that they add a way to set the local:nation variances.

Outliers have been known to have the last laugh...but they usually don't.

Oh I read it..

The challenge around here isn't to get you guys to say how awesome Obama is... Ya'all do that anyways at the drop of a dime..

The challenge around here is to get you guys to admit when Obama fraks up...

THAT is like pulling teeth...

Even when confronted by Obama's blatant lies and his being more Cheney than Cheney, ya'all refuse to concede... :D

That's why I emphasize when loyal Democrats start singing the same tune I have been singing for quite a while...

It's no big deal when a Marco Rubio or a John Boehner says what a bonehead and moron Obama is..

But when a Panetta or an Axelrod say how bad Obama frak'ed up??

THAT is a big deal...

Michale

Then maybe you should read the articles to which you quote? I'm willing to accept Panetta is right or wrong but not that he in only right in places that further your agenda and wrong in places he does not...

Given Obama's recent track record, I wouldn't expect that ANYONE would take Obama's word about ANYTHING...

Michale

I actually felt the most for you because I know you were one of Panetta's biggest advocates...

As more and more of the stuff in this book comes out are you only going to harp on the bad? Or are you finally going show some of that political agnosticism to which you allegedly aspire to but never actually show and post an even picture of Obama? Even the article you linked to has as much praise as criticism. But you only quote the criticism, and only the criticism of the left. Why is that if you are truly a political agnostic?

I have actually gave Obama credit on MANY things.. Granted, not as many as of late, because he hasn't done much to praise lately..

But specifically, I gave Obama credit for calling out the Seals during the Capt Phillips Hostage crisis in the Gulf of Aden and I gave Obama credit for how he handled the General McChrystal affair in Afghanistan..

Those are the two that come to mind but I am sure if I dig, I can come up with a dozen or more times I have praised Obama and his actions..

TS,

As I noted a few days ago, in another thread, WAPO has been a bit of an outlier this cycle.

Perhaps.. But all the other polls are moving closer to WAPO's position...

So, while WAPO may be an outlier NOW, give it a couple weeks and it's likely to be simply one of many...

"The idiots on the board are trying to scrub American history of any ugly stuff, and leave only pro-USA rah-rah cheerleading instead."

If I wanted that sort of history I'd go Disneyland/Disneyworld!

Yea... And Democrats would NEVER stoop to re-writing history, right?? :D

Glass house... Stones...

Michale

If I wanted that sort of history I'd go Disneyland/Disneyworld!

As I noted a few days ago, in another thread, WAPO has been a bit of an outlier this cycle.

Go check their site out. I've noticed some oddities in the state by state probability table (you toggle that at the top).

Look at the likely Dem win column on the left margin. There is no Hawaii...??? An almost certain Dem win. Now check the right hand side. Kansas .79 Republican? Seems a bit high, given the independent is polling ahead of the incumbent...must be putting a lot of weight on the historical fundamentals. WAPO is also assigning much higher Republican probabilities to Colorado and Iowa than the competition.

Also on the right hand side. Only one SC entry... but there are two races! Granted, both are sure things to Red, but seems a bit sloppy, clarity wise. Same deal for Oklahoma, which also a twofer.

If you add Hawaii as a Dem .99 (which everybody else does) the WAPO 78% comes entirely from Kansas, Colorado and Iowa, where the WAPO call is much different than the other shops.

Bottom line, the outlier WAPO .78 comes entirely from their Kansas and Iowa calls. Aside from these, and assuming they really are counting Hawaii and the other two elections missing in the table WAPO is in line with the 3:2 mainstream.

You have to ask - is this any way to run a respectable betting line?

Ready to concede that Obama ain't all that?? That he is in way over his head..

As someone who grew up on Panetta's district, I'm more likely to trust his words over just about any other politician in Washington including Obama. He's probably right about Obama. Both the good and the bad. But as much as you want this to be a test on us, it's just as much a test on you. As more and more of the stuff in this book comes out are you only going to harp on the bad? Or are you finally going show some of that political agnosticism to which you allegedly aspire to but never actually show and post an even picture of Obama? Even the article you linked to has as much praise as criticism. But you only quote the criticism, and only the criticism of the left. Why is that if you are truly a political agnostic?

Well, Democrats can kiss Kentucky goodbye..... :D

Michale

In his first interview about his new book, Worthy Fights: A Memoir of Leadership in War and Peace, Panetta argues that decisions made by President Obama over the past three years have made that battle more difficult — an explosive assessment by a respected policymaker of the president he served.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/10/06/leon-panetta-memoir-worthy-fights/16737615/

What about it, people..

Ready to concede that Obama ain't all that?? That he is in way over his head..

That's all it's going to take to shut me up... :D

Michale

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-tran/politics/election-lab-2014

Now if THAT is not a statistic to cheer one up, NOTHING is!!! :D

Michale

Ya know, next time ya'all want to grumble about the "Do-Nothing Congress", I am going to remind ya'all that it's been yer precious Harry Reid who has been limiting action by the Senate due solely and completely to saving Democrats and their political asses...

Michale

"Part toxic waste, part velcro"
-Robin Williams, LIVE AT THE MET

How do ya'all like Obama's proclamation the other day...

"Make no mistake. I am not on the ballot this election, but my policies are!!"

Even when he is not in the election, Obama has to make it all about him...

The narcissism is nauseating...

And believe, me no one know more about narcissism than me!!! :D

But what a tactical blunder, eh??? Democrats have been trying for months to distance themselves from Obama and Obama turns right around and plasters them with the Obama stink...

Between giving illegals the finger and inserting himself into the election, it's almost as if Obama WANTS to lose the Senate...

Anyways, where was I???

Open mouth, insert foot

You want to talk about THIS after the latest Bidenism??? I mean, come on... After Uncle Joe managed to piss off leaders, world wide, I would think Democrats would not want to mention ANYONE'S foot in mouth disease...

Besides, the ONLY war on women come from Democrats who refuse to put a serial sexual harasser and rapist out to pasture.. They are actually trying to elect the guy's wife to the Presidency!!!

Democrats have absolutely NO MORAL or ETHICAL foundation to complain about the GOP's "alleged war on women"...

Besides (Part 2), the ONLY viable weapon in the Dems arsenal on this so-called "war on women" is the abortion issue.. And THAT can be re-spinned as Democrats War On Unborn Children...

It's a losing issue for Democrats and there is ample evidence that shows that Democrats are using that issue to death and the American people are starting to turn against Democrats because of that over use..

Democrats need a new schtick....

I'd say the governor's going to be looking for work, come November."

As are many MANY Democrat Senators.. :D

"I can live with that."
-Keannu Reeves, THE REPLACEMENTS

:D

So broke, they're selling sex toys

I... I... I got nuttin' :D

Michale

There isn't much to talk UP about the economy..

Sure, if you cherry pick the numbers, you can find a diamond or two to crow about..

But the American people are becoming smarter and they are on to political tricks of partisans who only want to give THEIR version of the "truth"...

"There truth is not YOUR truth!!!!"
-The Oracle, STAR TREK, For The World Is Hollow And I Have Touched The Sky

The simple FACT is, if you ask John & Jane Sixpack if their lives are any better, they will flat out tell you, "NO"..

And THAT is the only measure of a better economy that matter..

'Sides, even if Demcorats DID crow about how awesome the recovery is going, who would listen?? Democrats have tried to convince the American people wha??? Three times?? Four times?? that the economy is awesome and recovering but it wasn't a fact...

Remember "The Summer Of Recovery"??? It's a joke...

Stop voter suppression!

STOP VOTER FRAUD!!

Let's face it. Anyone who doesn't want photo IDs for voters is simply trying to make it easier to cheat..

NO OTHER logical or rational reason is possible..

'Sides, there are a plethora of statistics that show states that instituted Photo ID for voting actually showed a MARKED increase in minority voting...

If a person is too lazy to get a photo ID, then they aren't much interested in voting anyways...

NO ONE can disenfranchise a person from voting without that person's tacit approval...

This is fact...

"Why is it that whenever I hear of voter fraud actually being committed -- you know, real voter fraud, not the fantasy voter fraud Republicans are terrified of -- it always seems to be a Republican doing it? Leslie Rutledge is running for attorney general in Arkansas, but she just got removed from the voting rolls because she is registered to vote in multiple states. Because she is no longer eligible to vote in Arkansas, state law seems to say she cannot run for public office. I'm waiting to hear all those Republicans who decry voter fraud to denounce Rutledge, but I'm not exactly holding my breath, if you know what I mean."

Yea, you NEVER hear about Democrats voting dozens of times for Obama, right?? :D

For every instance of GOP voter fraud, I can find a dozen instances of Democrat voter fraud...

So, if ya wanna... :D

You should resign in disgrace, Mr. Lamborn, for trying to undermine America's military in the midst of a war."

I agree. That is disgraceful..

But it's no more disgraceful than Code Pink's General Betray-us or Harry The-War-In-Iraq-Is-Lost Reid...

I'll have to finish the rest later..

I have to contend with the horror of horrors here...

A poopy diaper...

Michale

What is it with you and the race card??

Overall, as we get closer to the mid-terms, I see a mounting hint of desperation in the commentary and more hysteria in the comments.. :D

Apparently, the writing is on the wall and everyone is finally beginning to read it..

David,

When The New Republic calls Kansas a "conservative hell" you know things are bad.

You always want to talk about Kansas... But never want to talk about Detroit...

Why is that?? :D

Michale

The New 'effin Republic ...

When you think about it, one of the key messages I'm taking away from this is that Democrats are actually the conservative party.

Republicans are the radicals trying to create a weird Ayn Randian paradise (not just in Kansas, but in Ohio, Indiana, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, etc, etc.

-David

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119574/sam-brownbacks-conservative-utopia-kansas-has-become-hell

Shortly after the latest talking points went up, Turkey seems to have joined the anti whatever-ISIS-is-being-called-today coalition in a meaningful way. No commitment of ground forces yet, and there may never be one. Holy Joe Biden! Still, access to air bases in Turkey, or just plain Turkish airspace is very interesting. Incirlik AFB has been mentioned, but there is a major base farther east in Turkey that is closer to the action than Cyprus, UAE and aircraft carriers. Fighter bombers are thirsty little things. Moreover Aerial electronic surveillance platforms can probably see vehicular movement out to a range of 200 miles or so, according to open sources. Something's got to direct those drones and smart weapons. Just saying, might want to keep your eye on this development.

Turkey knows the ol' Levant region well, having run it for hundreds of years.

The Rubio statement is more than mere incoherence. The only response I can come up with is "Way to polish those brass balls Marco!" Next thing you know, he'll be pushing a mandated national health plan based on the MA model.

Hope you're auto is mended, gotta get in mine and pick up some Petards down at the Home Depot.

Sadly, no. The petards were auctioned off two weeks ago.