It's enough to make one a political agnostic, eh!!! :D

hehehehehehehehehe

Michale

JL

http://restoregedfairness.org/latest-news/32-common-core-and-the-pearson-vue-ged-an-economic-con-job

Michale

Liz,

Every national education initiative since the millenium has put the country in danger. Although both parties endorsed the legislation and presidents from both parties signed it, most of the harmful legislation that passed originated from the democratic side.

IF Democrats had supported the POTUS with the '-R' after his name as much as they supported the POTUS with the '-D' after his name..

It's all part and parcel to the entire Counter Terrorism concept and policies..

Democrats fought Bush and demonized Bush over the CT policies..

Under Obama Democrats rubber stamped everything..

They put the country at risk SOLELY and completely for their partisan agenda.

And THAT, I can never forgive or forget...

Michale

But if that name-calling prevents compromise and co-operation???

Then it's extremely irresponsible...

No???

Michale

And a case can be made that it is DEMOCRATS who are putting the nation at risk by their policies (immigration amnesty, etc etc etc) and Republicans are fighting against that..

You see my point??

It's all spin...

Michale

How about when the sided with Al Qaeda against President Bush over the Patriot Act...

We could have gotten OBL a LOT sooner and prevented a LOT of grief and loss of life if Democrats had supported Bush in his CT policies HALF as much as they supported Obama...

Michale

I have long thought that the Republican thinking on the economy is wrong and has been proven wrong. But, Republicans have not always acted so irresponsibly over that issue as to literally put the entire nation at risk of economic failure just to irrationally obstruct the White House.

I can name many Republicans I have followed over the years and have great respect for: Senator Warner, Senator Lugar, Senator Cohen for three examples.

Unfortunately, these men or men like them are no longer in the Senate and that body is a far lesser institution for their absence.

Speaking for myself ... no, I don't think so. That's not how I roll. :)

Give me one example where the congressional Democrats put the country at risk through their irresponsible actions.

Take your time, I've become extremely patient. :)

Democrats calling Republicans "terrorists" and "arsonists" and "hostage takers" etc etc is ALSO extremely irresponsible...

Michale

Maybe I am wrong and responsibility is not equal..

Or maybe I am NOT wrong and the only reason ya'all think I am wrong is because your sympathies lay with one Party over the other..

Ya'all must at least concede the possibility...

As an aside, CW?? Did you change the posting font?? It looks different...

Michale

Take issue with that imbalance!

michale may be incorrect to assign equal responsibility, but the dems are not exactly innocent. it's a bit like the schlemiel-schlimazel relationship. the republicans are always the ones spilling the soup, and the democrats are always the ones getting the soup spilled on them. it may not be equal, but both are responsible.

JL

You and me both...

But until it DOES come to pass, it meaningless to castigate the Republicans and praise Democrats..

Both are equally guilty of poisoning the well and refusing to work with the other...

Michale

That's what I'm taking about and hoping that it will come to pass ...

Every group that opposes another group likes to think that they are on the side of the angels and that the opposing side is evil incarnate..

The afore mentioned Shiite/Sunni Catholic/Protestant conflicts prove that beyond any doubt..

As fervently as you believe you are in the right, there are those Republicans who just as fervently believe that THEY are in the right...

That's the part that you can't see...

What makes Democrats right and Republicans wrong??

Because from where I sit, they both are frak'ed up beyond all belief...

NEITHER Party is on the side of the angels...

Once that is acknowledged then, and ONLY then, can progress be made..

Once Democrats can say to Republicans, "yes, you make some good points and have some good ideas" and Republicans can say the same thing to Democrats, THEN this country can get back on track..

But Democrats calling Republicans terrorists and Republicans calling Democrats communists???

No one can see past their own hatred, their own bigotry.

And we'll all be as we are right now. Stuck in the middle with no one looking out for OUR best interests..

Michale

I think you're wrong about that, Michale. It has been quite obvious to me - especially with regard to issues surrounding the financial crisis - that the congressional Republicans had one thing on their mind and one thing only - opposing Obama at any cost.

There is blind obstruction and then there is constructive criticism and opposition. The latter is what leads to effective and functional government.

Opposing for the sake of opposing is a Left Winger created myth brought on by some out of context quotes and some really bonehead in the heat of the moment statements.

Such bonehead out of context statements are NOT the sole purview of the Right, I might add..

Republicans are simply doing what Democrats would be doing as the Minority Party. Obstructing the opposing Party in favor of their chosen agenda..

It's like Protestants and Catholics, Shiite and Sunni without the bloodshed and explosions..

I mean, step back and look at things..

Democrats call Republicans terrorists and arsonists and hostage takers and criminals and then sit back and say, "Gee.. Why won't Republicans compromise with us???"

Minority Partys obstruct. It's what they do..

And when Democrats become the Minority Party in Congress in a few months, then THEY will be the Party that obstructs..

And so it goes and so it goes...

Michale

You know, when Joe Biden was elected the 47th Vice President of the United States, I had irrationally sky high expectations for America and its global leadership role. And, I had certainly not expected that President Obama's 'style' of leadership would evolve - or devolve, as the case may be - into such a dead weight around the effort to move forward on several fronts, domestically and internationally.

Granted, events - beginning no less with the most destructive and US-triggered global financial crisis since the Great Depression - have indeed conspired to stymie whatever grand plans this administration may have had to effectively lead the world. Add to that the relentless effort of its opposition to oppose, often for the sake of opposing and at any cost to the nation, and you have a pretty good recipe for dysfunction and stunted progress.

And then, when things go sideways, he blames anyone and everyone but himself..

I guess it is not ALL his fault.. The people around him keep feeding him the delusion that the is The Chosen One..

Michale

That's the understatement of the century.. :D

Michale

Barack Obama, whether senator or president, has NEVER been what one would call a foreign policy heavyweight, by any stretch.

Ironically enough, he never seems to have understood much about Iraq except for the simplistically obvious. This despite the fact that Vice President Joe Biden has been at his side for the last five and a half years.

But.... but.... but..... How can that be, Mr President!??

You said that ISIL was "just the J.V." and was nothing to worry about..

WTF, dood???

That's our POTUS.. Never met a foreign policy issue he couldn't screw up...

Michale

If you’re for black people, you’re for racism and state oppression. Because that’s what they do.

Yep, bigoted statement, through and through...

But don't lose too much sleep over it..

There is no dishonor in being a bigot..

We're all bigots..

Chris Weigant-Embracing Bigotry
http://www.businessinsider.com/embracing-bigotry-2012-8

:D

The dishonor comes from denying it...

Michale

Congrats JFC..

You found someone that speaks more inane and more gibberish than you do.. :D

Michale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=BTZBpBYq-DI&app=desktop

http://rall.com/2014/08/23/al-sharptons-sellout

"...the nature of the beast."
-Col Hadley, THE FINAL OPTION

Nobody chooses to be a cop for the money.. :D

"Being a cop is not what we do, it's who we are.."
-James Woods, THE HARD WAY

Michale

Heheh ... fair enough. They might have to be a bit tougher than dashboard cams.

And sorry you had to endure these acts. That's not something I'd wish on anyone.

-David

For the record, I have endured all of those.. :D

Michale

Dashboard cams rarely get punched in the face, wrestled to the ground, doused with liquids or otherwise have violent acts perpetrated on them.. :D

Why not just "replace" if it's such a good idea? I'm all for better solutions. The problem is that Republicans really just want to get rid of Obamacare and they don't have the balls to simply say it.

That idea listed in the link IS a good idea...

I can't see anything wrong with it.. But I am obviously not the most knowledgeable judge...

My point is that Democrats have been trying to divorce health care insurance from employment for a while now, right??

But to do it, they have to admit that TrainWreckCare is not working.

And THAT is where they (EPIC) fail....

They can't admit that ObamaCare is bad...

Michale

Eliminating the link between Employment and Health Care seems like a pretty good idea to me.

I'll be honest, Michale, and tell you I didn't read about the idea. It may be a good idea, it may not.

I do know, however, that if Obamacare gets repealed, no other health care legislation will ever be passed (which is what Republicans know & want btw). This is why they are proposing it in 2 parts.

Why not just "replace" if it's such a good idea? I'm all for better solutions. The problem is that Republicans really just want to get rid of Obamacare and they don't have the balls to simply say it.

-David

Time ta check the NNL buffers... :D

Michale

Under the missing video presumption, if under the policy agency's police there should have been video and there isn't, then the courts will assume that the video corroborates the party opposing the police, be it a criminal defendant or the plaintiff in a civil rights lawsuit.

Deja Vu... ALL over again... :D

It's funny.. I said the SAME thing with regards to the missing IRS emails and was resoundingly ridiculed...

It's called 'spoliation inference' and it basically says EXACTLY what you outlined, CW, but it generally applies to ALL evidence, not just video evidence.

Spoliation inference is a negative evidentiary inference that a finder of fact can draw from a party's destruction of a document or thing that is relevant to an ongoing or reasonably foreseeable civil or criminal proceeding: the finder of fact can review all evidence uncovered in as strong a light as possible against the spoliator and in favor of the opposing party.

The theory of the spoliation inference is that when a party destroys evidence, it may be reasonable to infer that the party had "consciousness of guilt" or other motivation to avoid the evidence. Therefore, the factfinder may conclude that the evidence would have been unfavorable to the spoliator. Some jurisdictions have recognized a spoliation tort action, which allows the victim of destruction of evidence to file a separate tort action against a spoliator.[2]

VINDICATION!!! THY NAME IS MICHALE!!!! :D

Put another check mark in the 'WIN' column.. :D

Michale

I have to say... Eliminating the link between Employment and Health Care seems like a pretty good idea to me..

The plan outlined in the link above seems tailor-made to solve our healthcare woes.

My guess is, though, Democrats would hate the idea because it would require them to admit that TrainWreckCare is a farce and part of the problem, not part of the solution..

And Democrats would rather see the country go down in flames rather than admit they were wrong about TrainWreckCare...

Michale

Michale

We're nowhere near Napa, thanks for asking.

6.0 is BIG, though. That is a MAJOR quake.

-CW

Words to live by... :D

Michale

Michale

USGS: 6.0 EARTHQUAKE SHAKES CALIFORNIA'S BAY AREA
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CALIFORNIA_EARTHQUAKE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-08-24-07-45-24

You OK???

Michale

Now THAT was funny!! :D

Michale

Hell, a pair of Rick Perry glasses with an insert is all ya need.. :D

Kudos on the TV/Movie quote...

{{sniffle}} {{{sniffle}}}I am so proud

:D

Michale

Marge: "You know, the courts might not work any more, but as long as everybody is videotaping everyone else, justice will be done."

From a season 6 Episode of The Simpsons, Bad Homer (1994)

Marge is often ahead of her time. Twenty years ago you needed a voyeuristic Scot and a bulky video camera. Now, your phone will suffice.

You've got to love that Fox "News" program Outnumbered (it's only when men are outnumbered that this outnumbering matters). They had this knuckle-dragging "doctor" Ablow on there and he called the FLOTUS a hypocrite for trying to get people to eat right and then he said she struggles with her weight (which he pulled right out of his fat ass).

So they had him back on and he said his hosts needed to lose weight (except for that one chick in the tight red dress showing off her legs closest to the camera).

Michale.....

Translation:

I have no logical or rational response and therefore I must concede your superiority by resorting to childish personal attacks and immature name-calling

I accept your concession.. :D

Michale

No he didn't... Zimmerman called the police because A KID in a hoodie appeared to be casing houses..

These are the facts...

But, of course, YOU have to inject race into EVERYTHING...

I say again..

Give it a rest...

Michale

"Are you really that dense???

"Seriously???

"Give it a rest, LD... No one appreciates you trying to make every commentary thread a race war..."

Michale [12],
"Let me amend that to say:

"Like I said though... It's BECAUSE these CCs will be so effective that communities, especially scumbag racist agitators within minority communities, will not welcome them...

"To expand on that I mean racist agitators like that scumbag Al TAWANA-BRAWLEY Sharpton and Ben AMBULANCE CHASER Crump et al..

"Can you imagine how much they would be against a system that would totally and completely negate their lucrative FANNING THE FLAMES OF RACIAL HATRED FOR FUN AND PROFIT enterprises???

"Michale"

--Lying racist Michale.--Chronic STUPID racist serial liar Michale.

Do you want a list??

Darren Wilson
All the cops of Ferguson PD
All Republicans in the country
George Zimmerman

That's the tip of the list. There is a LOT more..

So, I have proven that you have referred to many others as racist..."
Michale [61]
http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/08/18/perry-case-complicates-boehners-lawsuit/

I didn't know we were talking about people in the news! Yes there are stories of racists, and I have referred to them as racists. Even granting that. You ate lying. And you haven't proven anything. Another lie.

Since searching 316 posts is too onerous for you, and no one every heard of Wilson two weeks ago, produce one time, even ONCE, that I said he was "racist!"

Or, find one time I said "all the cops of Ferguson PD" or "all Republicans in the country" are racists.

As for Zimmerman, he called the Police because a black kid in a hoodie was walking down the street.-- Hell Yes! He's a racist!--For the record. Yes, I admit that I've called racists "racist!" But I've never called CW racist. Never Wilson. Never Ferguson PD. Just demonstrable racists.--Like you, Michale.

Your wild unsubstantiated claims are not proof of your wild unsubstantiated claims. They are just more lies.

But, then, lying Michale is what you do.--Its ALL that you do.

Your 'Heads I win. Tails You lose' demand that if I "admit" you're right you'll provide the proof is yet another example of you moronic lying.

Are you really that dense???

Seriously???

Give it a rest, LD... No one appreciates you trying to make every commentary thread a race war...

Jesus H Christ!!!

Michale

http://www.redstate.com/2014/08/21/my-faith-and-conservative-populism-are-colliding-more-frequently/

...and yet after on one commented Michale is "bringing up race" in 3.

I actually agree with JFC!!!

Who would have thunked it!!! :D

Michale

He was referring to injecting race into incidents such as the Ferguson and Sanford shootings.. Incidents that had absolutely NOTHING to do with race..

If that is not what the guy was referring to, then I withdraw my critique...

Michale

"He went on to say: 'Injecting race into this conversation and into this tragedy, not only is not helpful, but it doesn't help a continued conversation of justice and peace.'"

How is registering voters "injecting race"? Its the racist claiming that registration of voters is "injecting race" who's "injecting race."

Yes. If we get work now destroying The Inevitable One for the disappointing stuff she's not doing, maybe we can derail the old hag before she can do any real damage.

If you quote me, you're lying.

Let me amend that to say:

Like I said though... It's BECAUSE these CCs will be so effective that communities, especially scumbag racist agitators within minority communities, will not welcome them...

To expand on that I mean racist agitators like that scumbag Al TAWANA-BRAWLEY Sharpton and Ben AMBULANCE CHASER Crump et al..

Can you imagine how much they would be against a system that would totally and completely negate their lucrative FANNING THE FLAMES OF RACIAL HATRED FOR FUN AND PROFIT enterprises???

Michale

I have my moments, few and far between though they may be... :D

My personally feeling is that GOOD cops will be all for Collar Cams...

Now, an argument can be made that CCs won't give the nuances, might miss important points that only the on-scene officer had noticed..

Further, it can be argued that CCs won't indicate the physical and mental stress that officers are under when responding to incidents..

Those are logical arguments. It's easy to nitpick and say Officer Smith should have done A instead of B.. And Monday Morning Quarterbacking is never welcome. It's easy to claim from the safety of one's comfy office chair that Officer Smith over-reacted..

So, allowances will have to be made...

But I think that Collar Cams will help a LOT more than they will hurt.. That incidents like Ferguson and Sanford (if Zimmerman had been a sworn officer) would be resolved quickly and with minimal hassles or destruction..

Like I said though... It's BECAUSE these CCs will be so effective that communities, especially minority communities, will not welcome them...

Cue YoYo, LD and Kev.... "RACIST!!!!!!"

:^/

Michale

Every now and then, you and I end up in nearly complete agreement. This is one of those times. A little trouble with some of your sweeping generalizations, but hey, who among us haven't launched a few of those at this very site?

Police dash cams have been ubiquitous in my neck o' the woods for quite a while, hardly a week goes by when dash cam footage doesn't show on the local news. Area police seem to be very comfortable with them....precisely for reasons you stated.

I'll add just one more thing. This technology is cheap. So cheap that Russian dash/security cams randomly caught so much footage that the path of a recent rogue meteor could be accurately reconstructed in 3D!

Being accused of committing a GODWIN is a VERY serious accusation with HUGE ramifications.. False accusations of GODWIN violations can haunt a person for the rest of their lives, making it IMPOSSIBLE to find gainful employment..

Thanks to hysterical Wingers and fanatical Obamabots, being accused of racism is an everyday occurrence these days and is not any kind of big deal anymore...

:D

Michale

I proved you wrong there and you failed to acknowledge it..

You have a track record of ignoring it when me or anyone points out you are wrong..

Therefore, it's an exercise in futility to provide you with ANY facts, as you refuse to accept anything that contradicts your on little world-view..

For the record, I was happy to leave this issue between you and I back in last weeks FTP

Apparently, you had other plans.. :^/

Michale

NOW look who is lying... :D

Let's face the facts, LD.

You accuse ANYONE of being a racist at the drop of a dime...

It's part of your charm.. :D

Michale

Actually, I do..

But, as I mentioned in the previous FTP, you have a tendency to ignore the facts and questions that totally devestate your position..

For example, you refuse to answer if you would care about Michael Brown if Michael Brown had been white instead of black.

You called Bush a terrorist for his activities but have never answered whether Obama is a terrorist as well because he is doing things WORSE (at least from a Left Winger perspective) things then Bush..

There are several more examples of you ignoring points that prove you completely and utterly wrong..

I am not going to search thru 316 FTP commentaries, find the proof that you said CW made racist comments, only to have you revert to your Coward Of The County persona where you ignore things you can't address...

If you state for the record that you will acknowledge what the facts show, then I'll be happy to provide the link that proves you said CW made racist statements..

Ball is in your court as it always has been...

Like I said to JFC who failed utterly..

Put Up Or Shut Up... :D

and completely characteristic false accusation..

YOU calling someone racist is a false accusation???

NOW look who is lying... :D

Michale

Being as it really isn't fair for one liar (you) to cause grief to everyone else I am going to let this matter drop, since I have fully and unequivocally vindicated myself of your ridiculous, bogus and completely characteristic false accusation..

LewDan

It's become (painfully for my fellow Weigantians) clear that you have absolutely NO proof of your BS accusation that I ever called you a nazi...

Being as it really isn't fair for one liar (you) to cause grief to everyone else I am going to let this matter drop, since I have fully and unequivocally vindicated myself of your ridiculous, bogus and completely uncharacteristic accusation..

Michale

Actually, the guy is right in this particular statement..

This incident, like the Sanford FL shooting, had absolutely NOTHING to do with race..

NO EVIDENCE has EVER been found that even SUGGESTED that race had ANYTHING to do with either incident.. Well, unless you count fabricated evidence and the Left Wingers ridiculous and contemptible idea to create a new race of people called "White Hispanics"..

Getting out the vote is a laudable idea..

But we see what happens when racist hucksters fan the flames of racial hatred solely for their own profit..

I was even astonished, this week, to read some nice things about President Obama's foreign policy in a column by Charles Krauthammer, of all people."

I'm not.. Chuck ALWAYS calls it as he sees it, regardless of politics... He is pretty much a me.. :D

Michale

I have to be honest and say I did NOT see that one coming.. :D

You like to live dangerously, CW... :D

Because there is a growing movement to require police officers to wear cameras all the time, while performing their duties. A new petition on the White House site calling for this change has (as of this writing) over 140,000 signatures -- well past the 100,000 threshold that is supposed to generate an official response. So we'll see what President Obama has to say about the idea soon, one assumes.

For the record, speaking AS a former (if there really is such a thing) cop, I am fully, completely and unequivocally on board with the idea of collar cams for cops..

FULLY... COMPLETELY... UNEQUIVOCALLY...

How convenient for the cops that all seven cameras "malfunctioned" at the same time!

No more "convenient" than 2 years worth of emails disappearing from IRS hard drives of ONLY the people that were involved in targeting conservatives..

Goose... Gander... Get it?? :D

The Ferguson police department actually has cameras for cops to wear. They're sitting in a closet, apparently, because they haven't gotten around to making officers wear them. With a Michael Brown law in place -- backed up by a "missing video presumption" by the courts -- this situation would be a lot different.

Again, I am all for it.. But let's call it The Darren Wilson Law... Much more apropos...

While there are still important details to be worked out, I have to come strongly down on the side of turning Big Brother's cameras around, to film government officers' actions.

Not to nitpick, but doing what you suggest WON'T be filming the officer's actions.. Collar Cams will be filming THE CITIZENRY's actions. They will provide evidence that an officer's actions were (or were not) justified in any incident that goes down..

A video would clearly show who was at fault, and whose actions crossed the line, and would remove much of the doubt and distrust. Maybe making such a change could prevent weeks of future angry demonstrations in the streets, in some other small town in America. That would indeed be worth the effort.

I completely and unequivocally agree.. Having been there, done that and got the T-shirt, I firmly believe that 99% of cops in this country are brave, decent and honest human beings that are doing very dangerous jobs against impossible odds with very little to no support from the very community that they put their lives on the line to protect..

Collar cams will show this to be true..

Which is why I believe they will never be put into widespread use.. Because, like drones, they are TOO effective of a LEO tool. The communities WILL see that, more often than not, officers are justified in what they do, when they do it..

In other words, collar cams will likely show that the good guys ARE the good guys and the bad guys ARE the bad guys..

A lot of people in this country really really REALLY like to hate cops.. Give them proof positive that the cops ARE the good guys???

Those lots of people won't like that...

Michale