Even if a child joins a hate group like the High School Republicans or the Boy Scouts of America, that child is still a child! The child's membership in these awful, indoctrinating groups doesn't alter the definition of "child" in an way.

"Facts are stupid things." - Ronnie Raygun

Warren Zevon

This isn't "new legislation." Its an emergency immigration bill because the House has been incapable of passing an immigration bill. The Senate passed one long ago. They don't need to pass another.
If a House bill ever shows up that's what conference is for.

If Republicans wanted to address only the immediate immigration crisis they shouldn't have torpedoed the Senate bill intended to do so!

Do try to visit reality--at least occasionally, it just ain't like Mickhale's World.

Congratulations! We award bonus points if Michale is incapable of responding!

Welcome to the battle!

So, your links are bullshit?!

At last! Something we can both agree on!

Over 52,000 children have immigrated in the last nine months, most from other than Mexico. About 10,000 are under the age of 12. Your fantasy of only 10% being covered by the 2008 anti-trafficking statute is yet another of your delusions denying reality in favor of your prejudice.

And requesting asylum isn't illegal entry. You don't need a visa. All you have to do is show up and present yourself to American officials. Which is exactly what the vast majority of these kids are doing.

They are not illegals. They are working the system, just as Republicans are so fond of doing. They're exploiting law passed unanimously by Democrats and Republicans alike, and signed by Bush. The consequences of which, once again, have fallen upon Obama. And they are taking advantage of the inefficient, underfunded and understaffed court system, created by Republican budget cuts.

As always, the blind prejudice, refusal to accept personal responsibility, and desperate need to shift all blame onto Obama of conservatives is showing.

Thinking the same thing. I wonder if there is a JFC button on Google translate...

"Dogs barking can't fly home without umbrella"
-Jumpin' Jack Flash

Hay JFC...

Do you come with a translation manual??? :D

Michale

Absolutely...

If ya'all start addressing the issue without the "OH MY GOD THINK OF THE POOR LITTLE CHILDREN" bullshit propaganda then I'll be happy to reciprocate..

But as long as ya'all are intent on telling only a PART of the story that suits ya'alls partisan agenda, then I'll be posting the OTHER side of the story that has all the gang-bangers and drugs and murders and deaths...

Personally I would like to see some actual facts on the numbers from each group coming in and what their aim is before condemning the former to an unhealthy future, many even ending in death just to keep out the later who will likely get in to the country regardless of what Obama or congress does about it...

By all means, post those numbers and let's discuss them....

Michale

And, once again, a racist sees racism in everything..

Michale

Uhh.. There is new legislation?? Obama's 3.7 Billion dollar request..

The Senate couldn't past that because even Democrats wouldn't vote for it..

Try to keep up...

Michale

Bullshit..

Less than 10% fall under the 2008 Anti-Trafficking law...

And there's no reason to blame Obama either. His deferred deportations have nothing to do with the increase in child immigrants.

Yea... And Obama didn't lie about being able to keep health insurance plans either...

I realize in YOUR world, Obama is perfect and can walk on water...

But here in the REAL world, Obama fucked up...

It's that simple..

Michale

The Senate went home because they passed their legislation long ago. The reason the House can't pass anything is because they're terrified to conference.--But then, that would be reality. You're all about the lies that you just make up!

Bullshit. The majority of the children fall under the 2008 anti-trafficking statute. According to your own cite, 84%. There's nothing new about gang members smuggling into America. They are not "the other half of the children."

And there's no reason to blame Obama either. His deferred deportations have nothing to do with the increase in child immigrants.--And they are not illegals, they are asylum seekers, which makes their entry perfectly legal. And its why there are so many of them.

As always, you tell lie after lie. The problem isn't Obama refusing to enforce the law. The problem is Obama has to enforce the law. Which means that he can't just deport them, and that encourages them to immigrate.

Once again, you want to perpetuate false racist stereotypes.

OUCH!!!

And the ref takes a point away!!! :D

Michale

Now it's off to the Senate..

Oh wait.. Senate Democrats COULDN'T pass ANY legislation, so they went home....

Something, it's all the Republicans fault, right?? :D

Michale

Bla, bla ,bla... you posted to both pictures. One has an article with context. The other is just a picture with no relevant context what so ever. Seems to be the "agenda" belongs to you since you seem unable or unwilling to back it up.

If you want to make the case for the "children" at least have the intellectual honesty to address ALL the children...

Right back at you. Are you willing to do the same? Seems like you are OK with harm coming to the children in the article from post [9] to keep out the gang members from post [4]. Personally I would like to see some actual facts on the numbers from each group coming in and what their aim is before condemning the former to an unhealthy future, many even ending in death just to keep out the later who will likely get in to the country regardless of what Obama or congress does about it...

Actually, even MORE relevant because they are a threat to the safety and security of AMERICANS..

Ya know.. AMERICANS.. The people that Obama and the Democrats should be MORE concerned about???

I am also constrained to point out the health threat that even those pixie dust, my little pony, rainbow brite children represent...

Do I have to list all the diseases and outbreaks that are happening wherever these "children" are being processed??

Why not send all these "children" to live in the White House??

Oh, can't do that. That would put a damper on Obama's Hollywood soirees and might crimp his golf outings...

Michale

Yer more likely to believe whatever your agenda wants you to believe...

My point in posting the MS-13 pictures, of which the presence is HEAVILY documented is to counter ya'alls ideologically enslaved argument that these are all pixie-dust, my little pony, rainbow children.

They are not...

The families people who have been murdered by these "children" can attest to that fact..

If you want to make the case for the "children" at least have the intellectual honesty to address ALL the children... Not just the afore mentioned pixie dust, my little pony, rainbow brite children that serves ya'alls agenda..

Barring that, I'll continue to show the OTHER half of the "children" that are JUST as real and JUST as relevant...

Michale

How do you rectify the picture you posted from post [4] with this picture from the article in post [9]?

You want to scare us with gang members but do you have any proof that there are more of the gang members in post [4] than normal looking teenagers from post [9]?

I'm more likely to believe the photos from an article about the subject in question than a random unattributed photo with no context...

I really don't think there's anything I could add to this.

Just because Congress won't bend to Obama's will doesn't mean Obama gets to do whatever the hell he wants...

If I walk into a car dealer and say, "I want a nice shiney Prius for $20" and the salesman tells me to F.O.A.D. doesn't mean I can just take the car...

We have a government of checks and balances.. Circumventing those checks and balances via Executive Orders is a very slippery slope...

If that argument sounds familiar it's because it's the EXACT argument ya'all made over Bush's Executive Orders....

Michale

Now THERE's a point that's hard to argue..

We do much better at astronauts/aviators (John Glenn, Neil Armstrong, Jim Lovell, the Wright brothers) and serial killers (Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Thomas Dillon, Edward Edwards, etc.)

I knew the aviation/exploration..

Never knew the Serial Killer stat..

What a macabre statistic, eh??

Michale

Hahahahahahah ...

Unfortunately, the point is hard to argue.

We do much better at astronauts/aviators (John Glenn, Neil Armstrong, Jim Lovell, the Wright brothers) and serial killers (Charles Manson, Jeffrey Dahmer, Thomas Dillon, Edward Edwards, etc.)

Uh ... not really sure what this says about Ohio.

Speaker of the House John Boehner just gets weaker by the day, it seems.

CW, the quote of the day on this issue comes from a Republican ...

"Look, you can't say on the one hand that the president is overreaching by acting without legislative authority and direction and then refuse to give him legislative authority and direction in another area."
- Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.)

I really don't think there's anything I could add to this.

-David

OOOooooooo now ya dunnit!!!

David is gonna be piiissssseeedddddd!!! :D

hehehehehehehehehe

Michale

OK, I'm intrigued. Who are his competition? Or his lack of competition? (Logic kind of breaks down when dealing with this topic). Seriously (well, semi-seriously), Wikipedia offers no me help! Wikipedia!!!!

Does this have something to do with Ohio? Ohio has produced a large crop of mediocre Presidents, some of whom were good at other things.

Yea... By Democrats...

I mean, think about it logically. If you can...

If illegals were en masse voting Republican, would Democrats expend this kind of energy to get them into the United States??

Of course not..

Every action, every plank of the Democrat Party has ONE SINGLE GOAL...

To increase the number of people who vote Democrat.

PERIOD...

That is the ONLY agenda the Democrat Party has..

And, if it messes up the country, so what...

The Democrat Party just HAS to have their voters..

And they will get them by hook or by crook...

"These are the facts. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Smilin' Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

Michale

Michale

You mean, as opposed to the Democrats who just want to exploit the "children"...

Further, these.....

http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ms-13.jpg

.... are NOT "children"....

These poor children have been exploited enough.

Yea... By Democrats...

I'm thinking re-education camps.

Ahhhh a true "liberal" speaks out.... :D

Michale

When Republicans are in charge and this country goes to hell, everything is ALL the Republican's fault..

When Democrats are in charge and this country goes to hell, everything is STILL the Republican's fault...

I wonder if ya'all can actually recognize and/or appreciate the total and complete illogic of ya'alls position... :D

Michale

Obviously, that's the thing to do in DC..

Obama and the Democrats are always blaming everything on Republicans..

It beats the alternative of admitting his own weakness and incompetence, I guess.

EXACTLY... :D

According to Boehner, this is all Obama's fault. The House can't pass their own bill, they refuse to pass the Senate immigration reform bill,

And WHY can't they pass the Senate bill??

Because this country can't trust Obama to enforce the law as it is written..

Guess what?? That DOES make it "Obama's fault"...

If Obama were to suddenly start immediately deporting all the children who are turning themselves in, he would be breaking this law.

Actually, this is not factual..

For over 90% of the illegal juveniles coming into the country, the 2008 Sex Trafficking Law doesn't apply.

ALL of this melodrama could be avoided if Obama would simply enforce the laws as they are written..

The simple fact that Obama refuses to do so, that Obama would rather push the Dem Party agenda instead of what's right for the country...

THAT is why we are where we are...

Michale