Yeah, I hear you. It'll come up again, that's for sure...

David [5] -

I just got the Hillary book "Hard Choices" (was a gift) so I'll get back to you...

:-)

Michale [6] -

It's selling better than any of the recent conservatives' books...

As for relative wealth, well, we could go back to Kerry, when Republicans were using the same argument against him ("elitist!" "windsurfer!"). But it's not the size of the wealth, it's how out-of-touch the candidate is. The most impressive Dem of the 20th century, after all, was FDR -- who was born into great wealth. But that's not what he's rememebered for...

Here's a bone I'll toss you -- I have a serious problem seeing either Hillary or Bill Clinton as being "out of touch" from their non-rich roots, but I cannot say the same for their daughter. I think Chelsea may indeed be a bit of out-of-touch. But then, she won't be running in 2016.

Michale [7] -

Allow me to explain:

(a) "he/she is a lot better than the other party's alternative"

(b) "he/she won't do everything I want in the White House, but will appoint MUCH more reasonable Supreme Court justices than the alternative."

There. That was fairly easy. Sums up a LOT of voters' concerns.

:-)

[8] -

Hillary was dead broke. She had resources to fix that, but most Americans know exactly what she meant. Count on it.

[9] -

Romney said he was "unemployed" around the same time. Americans didn't like this statement, because it fed into everything else they knew about him. The Hillary statements don't do the same thing, sorry.

[14] -

Glad Arthur didn't disrupt you. Just had to say that.

nypoet22 [15] -

My favorite Robin Williams quote has got to be from "Good Morning Vietnam" -- "that man is possibly more in need of a blow job than anyone I've ever met."

[Did that from memory, is probably slightly wrong, I have to say...]

Either that or "To you in the special seats... reality!... wow!... what a concept!"

Heh.

-CW

It really wasn't in reference to any Hillary/Barack issue, but rather my somewhat tortured syntax of:

Which, after all, was the whole point she was trying to convey when she said what she said when she said it..

:D

Michale

Yea, it was in response to Robin Williams mocking Reagan for his "What would this country be without this great land of ours..."...

It's from LIVE AT THE MET... One of RWs funniest standups...

Ten times as funny as WEAPONS OF MASS DISTRACTION....

Michale

"Excuse me Mr. Reagan sir, excuse me sir... In the dictionary under redundant it says: see redundant."

not sure where this fits in with barack and hillary, but i thought it was a funny quote to use.

JL

The Carolinas ain't gonna have much fun this holiday weekend.. :(

Michale

Happy 4th! Back at 'cha!

Michale

Pizza

Pizza
-Little Caesar

:D

Michale

:D

The US House of Reps, US Senate and even the Supreme Court of the United states would KILL for approval numbers slightly north of 40%.

Actually the latest poll that compares SCOTUS's numbers are slightly higher than Obama's...

I'm just sayin'... :D

Michale

Michale

The mark of a agile mind is to successfully hold patriotism and disgust in one hand while hanging Red, White, and Blue bunting with the other. Beer goggles may help.

Happy 4th!!!!

Would ya'all have accepted if Romney said he was "dead broke" after he left Bain??

Of course not.. Ya'all would have burned him in effigy..

Same thing...

Michale

I think her best way to address the "dead broke" statement would be to compare it to the millions of folks who found themselves "underwater" on the mortgages. Debt > Assets means broke.

But even in that, Hillary is showing that she doesn't "get it" in so far as she doesn't understand everyday Americans and their thought processes..

When a normal everyday low-income American says "We're broke", they literally mean that they HAVE no money.. They don't understand Asset/Debt ratio or other high-finance algorithmic equations.

So when they hear a Clinton say "We were dead broke" that sounded like to total bullshit statement it actually was...

So, regardless of WHAT exactly Hillary meant, the simple fact that she said what she said in the manner she said it shows that she hasn't got a CLUE as to what average low-income Americans are going thru..

Which, after all, was the whole point she was trying to convey when she said what she said when she said it..

"In the dictionary under redundant, it says 'see redundant'.."
-Robin Williams

:D

Further, I would point out that, by adding the qualifier "DEAD" to being broke, Hillary was indicating that she was REALLY broke, in the manner that low-income Americans understand "broke" to be..

That, as we have all come find out, was complete and utter bullshit..

Hillary WASN'T broke, dead or otherwise..

Michale

I give Hillary credit for her political savvy though I am still hopeful we can find someone else to run.

But you will support her if she does run, right??

THAT is always what confuses me about Party people..

They rail against their own Party people, yet when that person is the final selection, they support him/her to their dying breath..

It's the same when I see newlywed couples who go on and on about being "soul mates" til "death do us part"... And then, 5 years down the road when those "soul mates" are getting divorced, all of the sudden their "soul mate" is Lucifer incarnate....

I mean, don't get me wrong. I understand the logic (if "logic" can be applied to such actions) of it....

It's just always boggled my mind that people can do complete 180s about other people and not bat an eye...

I guess, because I am not a "Party" person, I just don't get it.. :D

Michale

Really???

It was so inane when the Left was hysterically obsessing over Romney's wealth??

About the only thing the media mavens have gotten right, in examining Hillary Clinton under a microscope during the past few weeks, is the basic fact that "her book tour is an effort to polish up her campaign skills." She is rusty around the edges, but the flood of public appearances is a long way from the "disaster" some are trying to portray it as.

Ummmmm.. When you get a 40 million dollar advance on a book that is likely destined to make a FOURTH of that....

I'de call that a disaster by ANY stretch of the definition..

Hillary is not going to run.. The Coronation/Inevitability curse will do her in, just like it did in 2008...

Michale

I wish she would. I don't want to see more triangulation and 3rd way politics.

I think you're right though that it's unlikely. Though she did pen the necessary autobiography.

BTW, we were just talking last night about how the "Ready for Hillary" marketing makes us cringe. Really? "Ready for Hillary"? You couldn't come up w/ something better because nothing rhymes with Hillary? Marketing folks ... sheesh.

Clinton/Warren would be interesting. And it would help unite the populists. Because we're pissed. And most of what the Dem party is trying to do to attract more corporate cash isn't helping.

Warren at least stands by her principles.

-David

All comments back to Monday's article have now been answered...

Just for everyone's information...

-CW

Depends upon whether Bernie Sanders runs or not, that's my guess.

:-)

Think Warren will run? I don't, not really (assuming Hillary does). But I think it would be interesting to see a Clinton/Warren ticket, that's for sure...

-CW

My guess is "no" because they don't want to bring any unwanted attention to issues they supported as well. Especially not with more global "free trade" agreements on the horizon.

But it will be interesting.

It's also interesting that the right is trying to paint themselves as somehow populist when they still support giving tax cuts to wealthy people because lavishing the wealthy with more money will somehow "trickle down".

Yet another signal that populism is on the rise?

I give Hillary credit for her political savvy though I am still hopeful we can find someone else to run.

-David