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	<title>Comments on: The Really Bizarre Thing Gary Oldman Said</title>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/06/26/the-really-bizarre-thing-gary-oldman-said/#comment-50397</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 17:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t get it.  &quot;Political correctness&quot; means that people who aren&#039;t straight, white, Christian males are getting uppity, or that others are trying to get them that way.  And &quot;a joke&quot; is when they&#039;re put in what the speaker considers their place without recourse to serious measures such as shooting or lynching.  Sure, the standard example of people getting uppity is when (racial slur)s object to being called (racial slur), but an infidel expecting freedom of religion is certainly an example too.

That attitude is evil, but I wouldn&#039;t call it bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't get it.  "Political correctness" means that people who aren't straight, white, Christian males are getting uppity, or that others are trying to get them that way.  And "a joke" is when they're put in what the speaker considers their place without recourse to serious measures such as shooting or lynching.  Sure, the standard example of people getting uppity is when (racial slur)s object to being called (racial slur), but an infidel expecting freedom of religion is certainly an example too.</p>
<p>That attitude is evil, but I wouldn't call it bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/06/26/the-really-bizarre-thing-gary-oldman-said/#comment-50239</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2014 14:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Underrated?  Polarizing is probably a better description...but still going strong with the viewing public and the better sorts of movie reviewers! :-)  

&quot;by chance, &quot;Fifth Element&quot; touches on all the major angsts and dramas of modern American life, such as terrorists, Doomsday and cruise ships.&quot;

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-fifth-element-explained-lady-gaga-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know-about-modern-lifeback-in-97-2012-3?op=1#ixzz368EEvbMU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underrated?  Polarizing is probably a better description...but still going strong with the viewing public and the better sorts of movie reviewers! :-)  </p>
<p>"by chance, "Fifth Element" touches on all the major angsts and dramas of modern American life, such as terrorists, Doomsday and cruise ships."</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-fifth-element-explained-lady-gaga-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know-about-modern-lifeback-in-97-2012-3?op=1#ixzz368EEvbMU" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessinsider.com/how-the-fifth-element-explained-lady-gaga-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know-about-modern-lifeback-in-97-2012-3?op=1#ixzz368EEvbMU</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, T5thE was a VERY underrated movie.. 

&lt;B&gt;LeeLoo Multi-Pass&lt;/B&gt;

:D

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, T5thE was a VERY underrated movie.. </p>
<p><b>LeeLoo Multi-Pass</b></p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/06/26/the-really-bizarre-thing-gary-oldman-said/#comment-50127</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 17:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Loved him in THE FIFTH ELEMENT&quot;

One of the best things he&#039;s ever done, but nobody ever mentions it?!  Also one of Bruce Willis&#039; best roles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Loved him in THE FIFTH ELEMENT"</p>
<p>One of the best things he's ever done, but nobody ever mentions it?!  Also one of Bruce Willis' best roles.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Oldman is a fine actor&lt;/I&gt;

Loved him in THE FIFTH ELEMENT...  :D


Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oldman is a fine actor</i></p>
<p>Loved him in THE FIFTH ELEMENT...  :D</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/06/26/the-really-bizarre-thing-gary-oldman-said/#comment-50120</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just a case of &quot;what the hell was he thinking, and why didn&#039;t he not think that.&quot;  He&#039;s been in the business a while.

There is no political correctness issue here, it&#039;s an issue of recognizing forum, social status and social conventions of politeness within that forum given your status.  Of getting your facts straight, and separating your facts from your opinions.  Oldman made a hash of it.

It is almost never a good idea to say exactly what is on your mind.  The mind is complicated, and often contradictory. Don&#039;t show the public your mental rough notes.  Oldman is right, everybody is bigoted.  Recognize that and control it.

He screwed up, he apologized, but his apology was weak, almost certainly crafted by his publicist.  Run it by a few independent public relations types before you hang yourself twice in one week. 

Apology is not like hitting the stop button on controvery. A good apology is an offer of starting a dialog. Of acknowledging that you are guilty, and that you are committed to making things right. Don&#039;t bother about deciding exactly how guilty you are, public opinion will eventually determine that. It&#039;s OK to say you need some education, it&#039;s good idea to ask for some help.

As soon as you use the word &quot;insensitive,&quot; you&#039;ve invalidated your apology.  The insensitive gambit reads to offended parties &quot;I was right, but phrased it badly.&quot;  That&#039;s a defense, not apology, you are still trying to win the argument.  Fine if you really believe you&#039;re in the right , but if so,present your case as a well spirited defense and take the consequences.  

Oldman is a fine actor and probably isn&#039;t a bad guy, but if he doesn&#039;t want to turn into angry one (like Mel)and still speak his unedited mind, he should be prepared to go independent and take all the financial risks that making movies entails.  Woody Allan does it, Johnny Depp does a lot of it. But blockbuster stuff is  pricey to make, so work and play well with others if you want to get the big payouts without the risk of going broke.

Tough town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just a case of "what the hell was he thinking, and why didn't he not think that."  He's been in the business a while.</p>
<p>There is no political correctness issue here, it's an issue of recognizing forum, social status and social conventions of politeness within that forum given your status.  Of getting your facts straight, and separating your facts from your opinions.  Oldman made a hash of it.</p>
<p>It is almost never a good idea to say exactly what is on your mind.  The mind is complicated, and often contradictory. Don't show the public your mental rough notes.  Oldman is right, everybody is bigoted.  Recognize that and control it.</p>
<p>He screwed up, he apologized, but his apology was weak, almost certainly crafted by his publicist.  Run it by a few independent public relations types before you hang yourself twice in one week. </p>
<p>Apology is not like hitting the stop button on controvery. A good apology is an offer of starting a dialog. Of acknowledging that you are guilty, and that you are committed to making things right. Don't bother about deciding exactly how guilty you are, public opinion will eventually determine that. It's OK to say you need some education, it's good idea to ask for some help.</p>
<p>As soon as you use the word "insensitive," you've invalidated your apology.  The insensitive gambit reads to offended parties "I was right, but phrased it badly."  That's a defense, not apology, you are still trying to win the argument.  Fine if you really believe you're in the right , but if so,present your case as a well spirited defense and take the consequences.  </p>
<p>Oldman is a fine actor and probably isn't a bad guy, but if he doesn't want to turn into angry one (like Mel)and still speak his unedited mind, he should be prepared to go independent and take all the financial risks that making movies entails.  Woody Allan does it, Johnny Depp does a lot of it. But blockbuster stuff is  pricey to make, so work and play well with others if you want to get the big payouts without the risk of going broke.</p>
<p>Tough town.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 10:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is Oldman was very bugged about this School/Creationism/Buddhist thing and tried to work it into the conversation by the most tenuous of connections...

The one part of the Oldman interview that really jumped out to me was Oldman saying he was sick and tired of the double standard..

Leftist actors can get away with the most ugliest of comments as long as the comments&#039; target is someone of the Right Wing...

And Oldman is dead on balls accurate in that claim...

&lt;I&gt;(which included calling Nancy Pelosi the vilest term he could think of)&lt;/I&gt;

Left Wingers called Sarah Palin that &quot;vilest term&quot; on a regular basis..

That&#039;s the double standard that really pisses me off...

If it&#039;s a vile and disgusting term (and it is) when directed at someone on the Left from someone on the Right, then it SHOULD be just as vile and as disgusting when it&#039;s directed at someone on the Right from someone on the Left...

I&#039;m just sayin&#039;....

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is Oldman was very bugged about this School/Creationism/Buddhist thing and tried to work it into the conversation by the most tenuous of connections...</p>
<p>The one part of the Oldman interview that really jumped out to me was Oldman saying he was sick and tired of the double standard..</p>
<p>Leftist actors can get away with the most ugliest of comments as long as the comments' target is someone of the Right Wing...</p>
<p>And Oldman is dead on balls accurate in that claim...</p>
<p><i>(which included calling Nancy Pelosi the vilest term he could think of)</i></p>
<p>Left Wingers called Sarah Palin that "vilest term" on a regular basis..</p>
<p>That's the double standard that really pisses me off...</p>
<p>If it's a vile and disgusting term (and it is) when directed at someone on the Left from someone on the Right, then it SHOULD be just as vile and as disgusting when it's directed at someone on the Right from someone on the Left...</p>
<p>I'm just sayin'....</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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