I mean, seriously..

If ya'all wouldn't spend all your time saying how awesome and perfect TrainWreckCare is, I wouldn't have to spend all my time showing the facts that prove ya'all wrong..

N'est-ce pas???

Michale

Yea, I realize all the TrainWreckCare cheerleading is tedious... :D

I am doing my best to bring some REALITY to all the BS... :D

Michale

Michale

It gets real quiet.. :D

Michale

While NOT fully informing the test subjects of the risks...

Report: EPA tested deadly pollutants on humans to push Obama admin’s agenda
http://www.scribd.com/doc/215909101/EPA-Human-Study-Subjects

I mean, seriously people...

Not a red line???

Are you REALLY supporting these Democrats??

Let's take stock..

Obama has increased domestic surveillance to unbelievable heights..

Obama hasn't closed Gitmo..

Obama orders extra-judicial executions and assassinations of American citizens without Due Process..

NOW we learn that Obama's EPA is using human guinea pigs to further his agenda????

Where does it end???

At what point do ya'all stand up and say, "Whoaaa, wait a sec... This is going to far??"

Ya'all have already thrown ANY morals, ethics or principles you may have had on the altar of the almighty Democratic Party....

Are ya'all REALLY going to remain silent over this???

SERIOUSLY!????

Michale

"No, Mr. President. No way, Mr. President. We do not accept, we do not acquiesce in, this deplorable piece of legislation. The debate is not over. The debate will continue. It must continue. What is at stake is sound health care policy for America. But what is also at stake is reversing your attempt, Mr. President, to transform a free country committed to limited government into merely another nation burdened with the worst aspects of big-government nanny-statism.

President Obama, you might wish the debate were over. You might think you can intimidate us into conceding the debate is over. But you are wrong. The Republican party stands committed, acting through democratic means and as the agent of a self-governing people, to repealing and replacing Obamacare."
-William Kristol

Well said, Mr Kristol...

Obama and Democrats need to understand and accept one simple fact.

Obama is NOT a king. He cannot issue decrees that MUST be blindly followed without question.

Democrats are, of course, free to blindly follow the President, never questioning...

But America was founded to get RID of the exact kind of rule and ruler that Obama fancies himself to be and Democrats who fall all over themselves fawning and pledging blind devotion and loyalty to the man who would be king.....

"Well, f*ck that!!!"
-Loki, DOGMA
:D

Michale

JUST what a struggling economy needs...

More expenditures...

TrainWreckCare is a job killer.... Pure and simple...

Michale

Ya'all might want to hold off on that victory lap until all the lawsuits are settled.... :D

Michale

In other words, just because I am not with the Democratic Party doesn't mean I AM with the Republican Party, Mr Bush.... :D

Michale

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bomber-blew-himself-up-after-3320761#ixzz2xeWoroGa

A scumbag mobster in Dublin, Ireland was planting a bomb on a rival's Volvo...

Apparently the would-be bomber forgot about the Daily Savings Time Change and the bomb detonated while the bomber was affixing the device to the target's vehicle..

I think Homer Simpson said it best...

DOH!!!! :D

Michale

We've pretty much known it for years, but good to see you coming out of the closet.

Actually, the Klingons say it best...

q'OaStaHvuIS wa' ramn loSSSaD HoGh SIjlaHt qeItbogh loDD

Which, loosely translated, means:

"The enemy of my enemy is the enemy I kill last"

I have no love for the Republican Party. I have made it abundantly clear that I hate ALL politicians..

But there is a special place in hell for the Democratic Party due to their unwitting support of Al Qaeda when the went up against President Bush and put this country at risk, SOLELY AND COMPLETELY due to their political agenda, having absolutely NOTHING to do with any real moral outrage...

In other words, do not construe my utter disdain and contempt for the Democratic Party as support for the Republican Party...

I hate the Republican Party as well..

Just not as much as I do the Democratic Party...

Michale

If DailyKos is gospel around here, so I guess Breitbart is acceptable as well... :D

More evidence that TrainWreckCare is going to cost jobs...

Michale

Glad to see you're finally admitting you're a Republican, Michale.

We've pretty much known it for years, but good to see you coming out of the closet.

-David

On the other hand....

A Slacking Figure: Despite What President Obama and the Los Angeles Times Say, 3.1 Million Young Adults Have Not Received Coverage via Their Parents' Insurance http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA658.html#sthash.6X957CdI.dpuf

..... maybe not....

Michale

Again, Daily Kos is even MORE Leftist propaganda than the MSM...

Apparently, the MSM have SOME standards when it comes to blatant fabrications..

I know.. Amazing, right??

But let me throw ya a bone, David. :D

Supreme Court strikes down overall limit on campaign giving
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/2/supreme-court-strikes-down-limit-campaign-giving/

Something for the Left to howl hysterically about..

Pretty much, anything that the Left is against HAS to be good for the country.... :D

Michale

Where are these stories? (Some of this would be great for an Obamacare commercial)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/31/1288715/-The-Revolution-Will-Not-Be-Televised-The-Obamacare-Surge-the-MSM-Doesn-t-Want-You-to-See?detail=email

-David

I really hope you are right..

Because, when it comes to light that Obama's 7.1 Million April Fools Joke is nothing but smoke, mirrors and wishful thinking, Democrats congresscritters who put all their eggs in the TrainWreckCare basket will have those eggs all over their faces, looking like the morons that they are..

GOP takes the Senate?? If Democrats follow ya'alls advice, the GOP might just be looking a a SUPER-DUPER VETO-PROOF MAJORITY in the Senate!!

Wouldn't THAT be a hoot, eh? Republicans could pass ANYTHING they wanted and Obama and the Democrats couldn't do a damn thing to stop it..

Would be a fitting and just end to Democrat rule, considering how Obama and the Democrats forced this TrainWreckCare carp down the throats of the American people..

A GOP VETO-PROOF majority... Ahhh perchance to dream... :D

Michale

I agree with them that the law will be difficult to repeal, but that’s no excuse for whitewashing the real problems with affordability and access in the Obamacare exchanges.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2014/03/31/rand-only-one-third-of-obamacare-exchange-sign-ups-were-from-the-previously-uninsured/

Barnum was right. There's one born every minute. And it seems that they are all Democrats.. :D

TS,

It's astonishing to see how the political narrative on AHC has shifted in the 24 hrs since your article appeared.

Maybe on HuffPo and DailyKos...

The narrative in the rest of the world is still the same..

TrainWreckCare has done little to bring health insurance to the uninsured masses.

TrainWreckCare has done nothing to bring down the costs of health care and health care insurance.

By ANY reasonable or logical assessment, TWC is a complete and abject failure.

"These are the facts. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

Michale

Fascinating...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/374781/krauthammers-take-71-million-enrollees-phony-number-nro-staff?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

The delusional aspects of ideological enslavement never ceases to amaze me...

People will believe ANYTHING if it jibes with their ideological religion...

Michale

It's astonishing to see how the political narrative on AHC has shifted in the 24 hrs since your article appeared.

The benchmark of 7 million enrollment by November was always a dubious measure of success/failure, but the Republicans bought into it when it appeared unattainable in the wake of the botched healthcare.gov roll out. Republicans shaped the narrative, they hyped it, and now they're stuck with it. Suddenly, against all conventional wisdom, enrollment slightly exceeds the dubious goal, and the crowd goes nuts!

Democrats seem to be taking your advice and going on the health care offensive. Republicans are backing away from repeal. Republicans accidentally handed Obama a political triumph just when he really needed one.

Politics never ceases to surprise.

#16 is how one concedes the point and admits when they are wrong...

Try it some time...

Might make things more pleasant around here...

I'm just sayin'......

Michale

Com'on people! This is a REALITY based forum...

Actual sign-ups, IE people who have actually *PAID* for their insurance is less than 1 million...

This is beyond ridiculous...

Democrats are toast in November..

Personally, I can't wait...

Michale

One million signups in one day!!

Anyone who believes that truly must be an April Fool..

I mean, com'on people... Seriously..

Are ya'all actually BUYING this total bullcarp???

Michale

You see the problem??

The ONLY facts ya'all pay attention to are the so-called "facts" that support your ideology...

Any other REAL facts that dispute ya'alls ideology are "in the weeds" or just plain lies...

THAT is the problem here..

Ya'all have ideological filters that simply ignore ANYTHING that doesn't fit your ideology..

Helluva way to go thru life, I'll say that....

Michale

And there is simply NO WAY that GTA would have survived if it had the problems that TWC had..

I stand corrected...

GTA 5 was not a proper comparison to make.... :D

Michale

http://washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-worried-about-midterm-turnout-because-lower-turnout-means-that-well-lose/article/2546583

Democrats are petrified of the upcoming elections..

And with good reason...

Michale

That doesn't really compare..

If NO ONE could get online to play the game THAT would compare to what TrainWreckCare was like at the beginning..

And there is simply NO WAY that GTA would have survived if it had the problems that TWC had..

I know a little bit about back-end servers and know this to be true..

All the previous versions allowed you to do police, fire and taxi missions in single player if you stole a police car, fire truck or taxi but that has been taken out of GTA V.

Bummer... I play NEED FOR SPEED HOT PURSUIT a lot. Always play the cop, though.

Interesting side note. When Tom Clancy started his RAINBOW SIX series thru UBI, he made it abundantly clear that NO ONE would be able to play the game from the terrorists side... I have played a lot of FPS Online games and never once had any desire to play the roll of the terrorist..

The most recent FPS I finished (BATTLEFIELD 4) forced you to play the role of the Narco Terrorist and shoot the Captain of the USS OBAMA (I shit you not!)

I hated that...

Michale

It did have an opening just like the ACA website as I outlined at the time. The servers stabilized a bit sooner but have been plagued by hacks since. Around Christmas, the hackers figured out how to make custom lobbies (an instance of the on line game that can hold up to 16 players) and up the money gained from missions to ridiculous levels. Soon they, and all who were randomly placed in their lobbies were multi-billionares. It's possible, and common, to place a bounty on another player. When that player is killed, who ever killed them gets the money. If they survive 48 minutes of real game time, they get the money and the bounty on them disappears. With billions floating around it was common to get bounties on players in the 10's to 100's of millions and sometimes even billion dollar bounties. Once you get a bounty, you can share it with any number of people in the same lobby. This means there were many players who suddenly got huge amounts of money given to them without their ability to say no. Add to this that Rockstar, the company behind the GTA series, has a monetization strategy of being able to buy "shark cards" which for I think $2 to $20 real dollars would get you $50,000 to $1,000,000 of in game money. Each patch kills the current round of hacks. A new crop springs up quite quickly. Rinse and repeat...

Even with these problems, GTA V is one of the most profitable video games in history. And shark cards are a major source of revenue. GTA V does not support your anti-ACA argument at all. Sorry.

Does GTA allow you to play the role of a cop?? Or is it all just gangsters, hoodlums and scumbags??? :D

All the previous versions allowed you to do police, fire and taxi missions in single player if you stole a police car, fire truck or taxi but that has been taken out of GTA V. But hey, you can be a white collar criminal with corporate jet, posh apartment, business suit and supercar, so you are not limited to the lower classes of scumbaggery :D

You mean like Democrats were interested in something other than playing politics when they fought Bush every inch of the way over the Patriot Act??

Once again, it works both ways...

Michale

Obviously, it's a VERY big deal to fix it, no??

Put it another way..

Do you think GTA V would have survived if it had an opening like TrainWreckCare had??

And Health Care is AT LEAST as important as an online video game..

Wouldn't you agree???

As an aside. Question for Bashi...

Does GTA allow you to play the role of a cop?? Or is it all just gangsters, hoodlums and scumbags??? :D

Michale

So, to claim that Democrats are for "Main Street" is completely unsupported by the facts...

Michale

David... Obamacare has been in the works for THREE YEARS!!!

The website has been up for SIX MONTHS!!!

Obviously, it's a VERY big deal to fix it, no??

(Or at least it wouldn't be if Republicans were interested in something other than playing politics.)

obamacare is NOTHING but Democrats "playing politics"...

That ALL obamacare is..

It was rammed thru with absolutely NO GOP support or input..

At NO TIME in it's existence has TrainWreckCare enjoyed ANY support from the majority of Americans..

You decry the GOP "playing politics" yet you fail to realize that ALL obamacare is, is Democrats playing politics...

The majority of Americans DO NOT WANT obamacare..

And, as they did with Alex Sink, they won't elect anyone who supports obamacare...

It's THAT simple....

Michale

Sure. There's issues with any initiative.

You know what you do? Fix them. No big deal.

(Or at least it wouldn't be if Republicans were interested in something other than playing politics.)

-David

Democrats KNOW that there are going to be more issues with obamacare...

THAT is why they are not going to embrace it..

It's the smartest move they can make given the circumstances...

Time will tell if it's going to be enough..

Michale

Yes. Yes. And yes!

All you have to do is contact some people from Ted Cruz's facebook post. He asked people if they were better off under Obamacare and got an earful

https://www.facebook.com/SenatorTedCruz/posts/517779935000978?stream_ref=10

:)

This election is going to be a tough one. It looks like Republicans and corporate interest groups will be doing the lions share of the spending.

So it's also important that we be talking about whether we're better off or not.

For me personally, it was one of the factors that lead to me starting my own business. The exchanges brought the power of scale to insurance and help people like me find policies which are actually within reach (as opposed to the high cost for individuals previously).

I don't even care if you like Obama or not; this is a good thing. If the dynamics were to shift and we found ourselves with a Republican president, I would hope that he would keep it. I share this with as many people as possible.

-David

Way to ramp up the enthusiasm, Jay!!!! :D

Michale

The problem with that the GOOD stories is that, for every ONE good story, there are hundreds of horror stories...

S2,

The ACA did not sink Sink (sorry). If we compare the special elections in VA and FLA, we get a good idea of why Sink lost.

Bull Puckies...

Sink had ALL the advantages. Recognition, Money, Exposure, home field advantage and an opponent that was the dregs, a LOBBYIST for chreest's sake!

The ONLY reason she lost was because she embraced TrainWreckCare..

Ya'all can ostrich it all you want, but the simple fact is, obamacare is a luser for Democrats..

It STILL has problems, the website is STILL crashing and there is absolutely NO WAY to know who HAS insurance and who doesn't..

The number one priority of obamacare was to bring health insurance to the uninsured masses.

It has failed miserably.

The number two priority of obamacare was to bring down the costs of health care.

It has failed miserably..

Any Dem that embraces TrainWreckCare in ANY way is going to lose..

Plain and simple..

Michale

The ACA did not sink Sink (sorry). If we compare the special elections in VA and FLA, we get a good idea of why Sink lost.

First, she ran a centrist campaign. End, don't mend (if you're explaining, you're losing); somewhat pro-austerity; and other approaches. While centrism may (or may not) serve well in a general election, in a special election it's a bad idea. Base turnout in low participation races has got to be the first goal.

The results are completely turn-out-the-vote related. GOP-registered voters turned out at a 20%-point higher clip than Dem-registrees.

The other main reason this happened is that even though Sink had and spent more $$$, she spent a much larger majority on traditional methods than was done in VA. Rather than good data analytics and on-the-ground targeting, as well as the other items in the modern Dem tool chest, she spent it on TV, radio, posters, and the other tools still used by the GOP. It's one of the ways the two parties still differ and she went with the GOP playbook.

Whether or not the ACA would have cost her the election is unknown because of these two other points. I suspect she would have been elected had she focused more on these two points.

Bill Clinton seems to agree with you in style, but I think it's fairly obvious that regardless of emphasis you can't ignore Obamacare.