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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45825</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 09:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The simple fact is, Obama promised to put GOP ideas in TrainWreckCare..

He lied...  Seems to be a habit with him, eh??

While I will grant you that there may be &quot;conservative&quot; origins to TWC (just like we all have the same &quot;origins&quot; in our DNA) there is absolutely NO DNA from the current stock of GOP..

Even though, it was PROMISED by Obama that there would be..   

And that HAS to be true, because we used to live on Whidbey..  :D  (Old family joke)  :D

So, when I say there is &quot;NO GOP DNA&quot; in TWC, I am referring to the current stock of GOP, not what was in the far flung past...  

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The simple fact is, Obama promised to put GOP ideas in TrainWreckCare..</p>
<p>He lied...  Seems to be a habit with him, eh??</p>
<p>While I will grant you that there may be "conservative" origins to TWC (just like we all have the same "origins" in our DNA) there is absolutely NO DNA from the current stock of GOP..</p>
<p>Even though, it was PROMISED by Obama that there would be..   </p>
<p>And that HAS to be true, because we used to live on Whidbey..  :D  (Old family joke)  :D</p>
<p>So, when I say there is "NO GOP DNA" in TWC, I am referring to the current stock of GOP, not what was in the far flung past...  </p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45821</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Bonus points for not saying Edison invented the light bulb, I have to say.&lt;/I&gt;

In anticipation of your response and formulating MY response to your anticipated response I researched Edison..  :D

&lt;I&gt;Nice try, though. Nice metaphor, and all that...&lt;/I&gt;

It still makes the point.  

obamacare has as much relation to the original conservative plan as the LASER has to the light bulb..

I am also constrained to point you that you said &quot;conservative&quot; and I said &quot;GOP&quot;..  :D

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bonus points for not saying Edison invented the light bulb, I have to say.</i></p>
<p>In anticipation of your response and formulating MY response to your anticipated response I researched Edison..  :D</p>
<p><i>Nice try, though. Nice metaphor, and all that...</i></p>
<p>It still makes the point.  </p>
<p>obamacare has as much relation to the original conservative plan as the LASER has to the light bulb..</p>
<p>I am also constrained to point you that you said "conservative" and I said "GOP"..  :D</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45819</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale -

&lt;em&gt;That&#039;s like saying Edison deserves the credit for the LASER because he perfected the LIGHT bulb...&lt;/em&gt;

Bonus points for not saying Edison &lt;em&gt;invented&lt;/em&gt; the light bulb, I have to say.

But Edison filed a patent in 1879.  Lasers were patented in 1958.  That is almost 80 years...

Nice try, though.  Nice metaphor, and all that...

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale -</p>
<p><em>That's like saying Edison deserves the credit for the LASER because he perfected the LIGHT bulb...</em></p>
<p>Bonus points for not saying Edison <em>invented</em> the light bulb, I have to say.</p>
<p>But Edison filed a patent in 1879.  Lasers were patented in 1958.  That is almost 80 years...</p>
<p>Nice try, though.  Nice metaphor, and all that...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45818</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 08:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale -

The fact that there is no public option in Obamacare is the biggest and best example he was fishing for GOP votes.

As for conservative DNA, here you go:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/03/28/the-individual-mandates-conservative-origins/

Can&#039;t get much more conservative than the Heritage Foundation.  Them&#039;s the facts, Jack.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale -</p>
<p>The fact that there is no public option in Obamacare is the biggest and best example he was fishing for GOP votes.</p>
<p>As for conservative DNA, here you go:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/03/28/the-individual-mandates-conservative-origins/" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/03/28/the-individual-mandates-conservative-origins/</a></p>
<p>Can't get much more conservative than the Heritage Foundation.  Them's the facts, Jack.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45799</link>
		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Feb 2014 01:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or as Joe Biden put it: 

&quot;There isn&#039;t a Republican Party.&quot; 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/joe-biden-republican-party-article-1.1614269

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as Joe Biden put it: </p>
<p>"There isn't a Republican Party." </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/joe-biden-republican-party-article-1.1614269" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/joe-biden-republican-party-article-1.1614269</a></p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;As for Obamacare, that&#039;s just funny. I mean truly amusing. Obamacare was proposed by a conservative think tank and passed into law by a Republican governor in Massachusetts. &lt;/I&gt;

How many years ago??

That&#039;s like saying Edison deserves the credit for the LASER because he perfected the LIGHT bulb...

There is absolutely NO GOP DNA in TrainWreckCare...

Obama PROMISED that he would put some GOP ideas in the final product (remember TORT REFORM???) but Obama&#039;s lobbyists wouldn&#039;t let him..

Ya know??  The LOBBYISTS that Obama *PROMISED* (there&#039;s that word again) to ignore once he was POTUS??

Obama has been one broken promise after another..

And what is so amazing is that ya&#039;all STILL support him...

All because he has that &#039;-D&#039; after his name..

Michale


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As for Obamacare, that's just funny. I mean truly amusing. Obamacare was proposed by a conservative think tank and passed into law by a Republican governor in Massachusetts. </i></p>
<p>How many years ago??</p>
<p>That's like saying Edison deserves the credit for the LASER because he perfected the LIGHT bulb...</p>
<p>There is absolutely NO GOP DNA in TrainWreckCare...</p>
<p>Obama PROMISED that he would put some GOP ideas in the final product (remember TORT REFORM???) but Obama's lobbyists wouldn't let him..</p>
<p>Ya know??  The LOBBYISTS that Obama *PROMISED* (there's that word again) to ignore once he was POTUS??</p>
<p>Obama has been one broken promise after another..</p>
<p>And what is so amazing is that ya'all STILL support him...</p>
<p>All because he has that '-D' after his name..</p>
<p>Michale</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale [4] -

Here&#039;s two compromises: the budget deal in December, the budget deal in January.  Neither had everything Dems wanted, and both had goodies in them for Republicans.  That is compromise -- from both Dems and from the saner Republicans.  The Tea Party wanted to vote the whole thing down and shut the government down again.  That is not compromise.  

See the difference?

As for the minority/majority, the Tea Party is a minority of the majority in the House, and a minority of the minority in the Senate.  They do NOT speak for &quot;all Americans&quot; by a long shot.  Which is why Boehner is increasingly ignoring them.

As for Obamacare, that&#039;s just funny.  I mean truly amusing.  Obamacare was proposed by a conservative think tank and passed into law by a Republican governor in Massachusetts.  There were all kinds of compromises included in it to woo Republican votes as well.  Here&#039;s just one example: &quot;force Congress to use the insurance exchanges.&quot;  That was added by a Republican.  Democrats compromised, and gave it to him.  That&#039;s just one example, there are plenty of others.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale [4] -</p>
<p>Here's two compromises: the budget deal in December, the budget deal in January.  Neither had everything Dems wanted, and both had goodies in them for Republicans.  That is compromise -- from both Dems and from the saner Republicans.  The Tea Party wanted to vote the whole thing down and shut the government down again.  That is not compromise.  </p>
<p>See the difference?</p>
<p>As for the minority/majority, the Tea Party is a minority of the majority in the House, and a minority of the minority in the Senate.  They do NOT speak for "all Americans" by a long shot.  Which is why Boehner is increasingly ignoring them.</p>
<p>As for Obamacare, that's just funny.  I mean truly amusing.  Obamacare was proposed by a conservative think tank and passed into law by a Republican governor in Massachusetts.  There were all kinds of compromises included in it to woo Republican votes as well.  Here's just one example: "force Congress to use the insurance exchanges."  That was added by a Republican.  Democrats compromised, and gave it to him.  That's just one example, there are plenty of others.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 21:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an interesting letter in the mail today...

http://sjfm.us/temp/rts.jpg

Gonna stick it back in the mail box...

Hope it doesn&#039;t earn me an IRS audit...  :^/

The scary and sad thing is, it&#039;s actually a legitimate concern!

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an interesting letter in the mail today...</p>
<p><a href="http://sjfm.us/temp/rts.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://sjfm.us/temp/rts.jpg</a></p>
<p>Gonna stick it back in the mail box...</p>
<p>Hope it doesn't earn me an IRS audit...  :^/</p>
<p>The scary and sad thing is, it's actually a legitimate concern!</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45723</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the BIGGEST example of how Democrats &quot;compromise&quot; is TrainWreckCare...

Not one single STRAND of GOP DNA in the entire legislation..

Democrats have NO moral or ethical foundation to speak of &quot;compromise&quot; as long as the train wreck that is obamacare exists...

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the BIGGEST example of how Democrats "compromise" is TrainWreckCare...</p>
<p>Not one single STRAND of GOP DNA in the entire legislation..</p>
<p>Democrats have NO moral or ethical foundation to speak of "compromise" as long as the train wreck that is obamacare exists...</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45722</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Democrats sometimes compromise, sometimes stand firm. &lt;/I&gt;

Can you name some recent compromises??

Because I sure can&#039;t...

&lt;I&gt;But I bet you can&#039;t give me ONE example of the Tea Party compromising on ANYthing.&lt;/I&gt;

Because THAT is what they were &quot;hired&quot; to do..

They were elected to protect this country and protect Americans from the malfeasance of the Democrats.

And, considering how bad Democrats have scrooed the pooch, it&#039;s blatantly obvious that this country NEEDS that protection...

The problem here is Democrats are only about compromise when THEY are the minority...

When they are in the majority, compromise is an ugly word..

Reid tossing around nukes proved that beyond any doubt..

Under Obama &quot;compromise&quot; has simply been a code word for &quot;our way or the highway&quot;...

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Democrats sometimes compromise, sometimes stand firm. </i></p>
<p>Can you name some recent compromises??</p>
<p>Because I sure can't...</p>
<p><i>But I bet you can't give me ONE example of the Tea Party compromising on ANYthing.</i></p>
<p>Because THAT is what they were "hired" to do..</p>
<p>They were elected to protect this country and protect Americans from the malfeasance of the Democrats.</p>
<p>And, considering how bad Democrats have scrooed the pooch, it's blatantly obvious that this country NEEDS that protection...</p>
<p>The problem here is Democrats are only about compromise when THEY are the minority...</p>
<p>When they are in the majority, compromise is an ugly word..</p>
<p>Reid tossing around nukes proved that beyond any doubt..</p>
<p>Under Obama "compromise" has simply been a code word for "our way or the highway"...</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2014/02/11/third-times-the-charm/#comment-45721</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale -

Democrats sometimes compromise, sometimes stand firm.  But I bet you can&#039;t give me ONE example of the Tea Party compromising on ANYthing.  

That&#039;s the difference.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale -</p>
<p>Democrats sometimes compromise, sometimes stand firm.  But I bet you can't give me ONE example of the Tea Party compromising on ANYthing.  </p>
<p>That's the difference.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to Boehner&#039;s actions..

I guess HIS style of governing now is to simply give Democrats everything they want..

He won&#039;t be long for SOTH, that much is certain.

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to Boehner's actions..</p>
<p>I guess HIS style of governing now is to simply give Democrats everything they want..</p>
<p>He won't be long for SOTH, that much is certain.</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 10:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;John Boehner has finally come to face the same reality Barack Obama faced about a year and a half ago: the Tea Party faction of House Republicans just does not care about governing. Compromise is impossible with them, because they view even uttering the word &quot;compromise&quot; as high treason to their cause.&lt;/I&gt;

So, what you are saying is that to &quot;govern&quot; at all, one MUST be willing to compromise...

Is that what you are saying??

So, if I come up with a couple dozen quadrillion instances when Democrats refused to compromise, you would concede that Democrats simply can&#039;t govern..

Would that be an accurate conclusion??  :D


Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>John Boehner has finally come to face the same reality Barack Obama faced about a year and a half ago: the Tea Party faction of House Republicans just does not care about governing. Compromise is impossible with them, because they view even uttering the word "compromise" as high treason to their cause.</i></p>
<p>So, what you are saying is that to "govern" at all, one MUST be willing to compromise...</p>
<p>Is that what you are saying??</p>
<p>So, if I come up with a couple dozen quadrillion instances when Democrats refused to compromise, you would concede that Democrats simply can't govern..</p>
<p>Would that be an accurate conclusion??  :D</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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