That's why we do a "poll of poll of polls" here, averaging monthly the daily averages on RCP. Smooths out the bumps.

November's going to be brutal for Obama, no doubt about that, though. December's when he has a chance of really rebounding. We'll see.

[4] -

OK, it's a serious question, so here's a short (but serious) answer. If anything isn't clear, ask, and I'll provide a longer explanation.

I feel that Obamacare will eventually be just fine because of the history of:

* Medicare Part D (prescription drug benefit) -- horrendous startup, political fiasco (for Republicans), but was eventually fixed and now beloved by millions upon millions of seniors. Oh, and it's getting even better now, because Obamacare is slowly getting rid of the "donut hole."

* Romneycare -- perhaps the best example. Initial problems, to be sure, slow startup until the deadlines loomed (like this year's Dec 15th), but now successful and well-loved by an overwhelming amount of MA residents. Only 4% of MA is uninsured. That is a success story. And, no matter what Romney would have you believe, Romneycare is essentially the same thing as Obamacare. So once the website problems are fixed, the system has indeed been proven to work. By Mitt Romney himself.

* the history of Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security -- all were limited and clunky when they first started. Now they are successful and appreciated, because of further refinement and legislative fixes made. Despite all the Republican scaremongering which happened when each program passed into law.

So, you see, I am basing my gut feeling on history. A lot of history. That's a serious answer to your question.

I think Obamacare website problems will (eventually) be fixed. Can't say when that will happen, and deadlines may have to slip -- but sooner or later, the site will work as designed.

Obamacare itself, well, I just look to the hard cold facts from MA.

Michale [5] -

Don't forget "I did not have sex with that woman" (thought you'd like that one) as well as, of course, "Mission Accomplished" and "we had nothing to do with selling weapons to the Contras."

Every president gets caught in one (or more) of these, sooner or later. Although I do appreciate the fact that you used a GOP example first, I must say...

Heh. Which is why I used the Clinton one first myself, just for you!

:-)

Michale [6] -

And the White House is coming up with its own administrative fix -- proving, once again, that I was right in the comments last week when I predicted that once Republicans started trying to FIX Obamacare instead of DESTROY it, then Democrats would be willing to do so.

Michale [9] -

OK, but if the website works, you have to keep calling it Obamacare, right? At least we're not insisting on you calling it the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act," eh?

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Don't get me started, as I will get into the weeds of what needs to be done in the technical realm very quickly if given half a chance. The real problem, if you're interested, is not retaining the data of those already signed up, but doing "rolling bug fix versions" while keeping the site up and running (such as it is). It would have been easier to take the whole thing down for a week, and this is why when you hear "the site's going down for maintenance" it is actually good news, because it means they've got major fixes to roll out.

Like I said, I can give you chapter and verse on this, but I doubt anybody'd really be interested.

You are right in your final statement, though, it is indeed a Herculean task. Nice use of the term, too.

:-)

-CW

Not only do they have to fix this humongous train wreck, but they have to do it in such away so that the few hundred who DID actually sign up won't have to do it again...

A Herculean task, to be sure...

I don't envy them in the least...

Michale

And then obamacare will become Obama's TrainWreck Care.... :D

Michale

Keeping your current health care plan depends entirely on the for-profit private business selling such a plan.

Not so...

The insurance companies are dropping the plans to be in compliance with obamacare..

If there had been no obamacare, the millions of Americans who liked their plans could have kept their plans...

If they decide to no longer offer such plan; there's nothing the President, Congress, or you can do about it.

But it wasn't the insurance companies who decided not to carry those plans.

It was obamacare that decided...

Spin all you want.

Obama promised millions of Americans that if they liked their plan they could keep their plan.

He lied. Pure and simple...

Michale

Keeping your current health care plan depends entirely on the for-profit private business selling such a plan. If they decide to no longer offer such plan; there's nothing the President, Congress, or you can do about it.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/189499-house-to-vote-next-week-on-keep-your-health-plan-act#ixzz2jv9r9Ve1

So, let's see ya prove it.. :D

Michale

Of course, the reality is that President Bush like fully intended NOT to add new taxes when he made that statement..

It's well documented that Obama knew that his "If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance" statement was completely and utter BS, every time he uttered it..

Funny how the Left loves to point at GOP "lies" that aren't really even lies, but fall all over themselves defending a DEM POTUS who blatantly lied thru his teeth to the American people..

There's a word for that...

Ah yes... Hypocrisy....

Michale

What do you base that on???

I am sincerely curious..

Michale

Are you absolutely SURE about that?? :D

http://l.yimg.com/os/publish-images/news/2013-11-05/da59d181-d9a2-48ba-bccf-503f6e215d33_chart_bush_obama_ratings.jpeg

Michale

Careful now.. Yer gonna give everyone an antidote to the Obama koolaid!

And THEN where will ya be!?? :D

Michale

OK, folks, just went back and answered comments for Monday and FTP. Whew! Quite a little math debate on Friday...

-CW