Comments on: Friday Talking Points [278] -- ...And The Law Won http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/ Reality-based political commentary Fri, 17 Apr 2026 04:33:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42931 nypoet22 Mon, 21 Oct 2013 22:10:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42931 <i>Establishment Republicans loved the Tea Party when they were able to be controlled. They don't seem to like them so much now that they're trying to wrest control from establishment leadership. </i> exactly. the tea party started out as an astroturf movement to exploit the masses and get out the vote. now it's an honest to god populist movement, and the moneyed types that funded its beginnings hate anything that smells like genuine populism. poetic justice if you ask me. JL Establishment Republicans loved the Tea Party when they were able to be controlled.

They don't seem to like them so much now that they're trying to wrest control from establishment leadership.

exactly. the tea party started out as an astroturf movement to exploit the masses and get out the vote. now it's an honest to god populist movement, and the moneyed types that funded its beginnings hate anything that smells like genuine populism. poetic justice if you ask me.

JL

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42929 akadjian Mon, 21 Oct 2013 14:16:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42929 <i> The best "looking forward" article I read all week was from David Leopold at the Huffington Post. In it, he examines why the Republican Party could undo a lot of their self-inflicted damage by immediately getting behind immigration reform. </i> This would be great, right? I don't see it happening though because of the Republican base. Because of ... <i> Turning against tactical radicalism would involve serious political risk. So every setback is interpreted as a need for greater purity and commitment. </i> The whole Michael Gerson excerpt is amazing. Establishment Republicans loved the Tea Party when they were able to be controlled. They don't seem to like them so much now that they're trying to wrest control from establishment leadership. Thanks for posting, CW! -David The best "looking forward" article I read all week was from David Leopold at the Huffington Post. In it, he examines why the Republican Party could undo a lot of their self-inflicted damage by immediately getting behind immigration reform.

This would be great, right?

I don't see it happening though because of the Republican base.

Because of ...

Turning against tactical radicalism would involve serious political risk. So every setback is interpreted as a need for greater purity and commitment.

The whole Michael Gerson excerpt is amazing. Establishment Republicans loved the Tea Party when they were able to be controlled.

They don't seem to like them so much now that they're trying to wrest control from establishment leadership.

Thanks for posting, CW!

-David

]]> By: Pastafarian Dan http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42926 Pastafarian Dan Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:04:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42926 Great post. And I love the script. But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the GOP to start working constructively to fix the ACA (or anything else, for that matter). And as far as the sedition petition (try to say that three times fast), I think of it like the various petitions to secede that the right-wingers flooded the WH with. Or maybe the petition to build a "Death Star". No one expects it to go anywhere, but it's used to make a rhetorical point about the GOPs actions. Great post. And I love the script.
But I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the GOP to start working constructively to fix the ACA (or anything else, for that matter).
And as far as the sedition petition (try to say that three times fast), I think of it like the various petitions to secede that the right-wingers flooded the WH with. Or maybe the petition to build a "Death Star". No one expects it to go anywhere, but it's used to make a rhetorical point about the GOPs actions.

]]> By: db http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42922 db Mon, 21 Oct 2013 00:09:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42922 Ditto Elizabeth #5 Ditto Elizabeth #5

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42910 nypoet22 Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:03:02 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42910 <i>The best "looking forward" article I read all week was from David Leopold at the Huffington Post. In it, he examines why the Republican Party could undo a lot of their self-inflicted damage by immediately getting behind immigration reform.</i> as i recall, CW, you made the same point vis-a-vis puerto rican statehood. can the GOP show some foresight and listen? only time will tell... JL The best "looking forward" article I read all week was from David Leopold at the Huffington Post. In it, he examines why the Republican Party could undo a lot of their self-inflicted damage by immediately getting behind immigration reform.

as i recall, CW, you made the same point vis-a-vis puerto rican statehood. can the GOP show some foresight and listen? only time will tell...

JL

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42901 Elizabeth Miller Sat, 19 Oct 2013 07:44:59 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42901 Chris, I don't see the problem with enabling the ads. And, if they are generating any kind of financial benefit to CW.com you'd be crazy to disable them. Please don't! Chris,

I don't see the problem with enabling the ads. And, if they are generating any kind of financial benefit to CW.com you'd be crazy to disable them. Please don't!

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42900 Chris Weigant Sat, 19 Oct 2013 07:23:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42900 <strong>Unrelated Program Note:</strong> OK, I have disabled the ads (for now). Please, everyone, let me know if this causes problems, and also how you feel about me doing so. More later... <strong>- CW</strong> Unrelated Program Note:

OK, I have disabled the ads (for now). Please, everyone, let me know if this causes problems, and also how you feel about me doing so.

More later...

- CW

]]> By: YoYoTheAssyrian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42897 YoYoTheAssyrian Sat, 19 Oct 2013 06:34:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42897 Well I will say it hits the points, don't think it will stick unfortunately. You guys underestimate the Republican cling to the American brain stem. See, how freaked you were the first couple days of the shutdown. Well I will say it hits the points, don't think it will stick unfortunately. You guys underestimate the Republican cling to the American brain stem. See, how freaked you were the first couple days of the shutdown.

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42896 Chris Weigant Sat, 19 Oct 2013 05:22:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42896 TheStig - To say nothing of the "Hills Are Alive" opening scene and Julie Andrews in <em>The Sound Of Music</em>. Heh. -CW TheStig -

To say nothing of the "Hills Are Alive" opening scene and Julie Andrews in The Sound Of Music.

Heh.

-CW

]]> By: TheStig http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/10/18/ftp278/#comment-42893 TheStig Sat, 19 Oct 2013 03:26:26 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=8089#comment-42893 Quite a script CW; do I see influences from LBJ's "The Daisy," Reagan's "Morning In America" and the Keep America Beautiful "Crying Chief?" Quite a script CW; do I see influences from LBJ's "The Daisy," Reagan's "Morning In America" and the Keep America Beautiful "Crying Chief?"

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