to me it says those tea partiers may not be quite as crazy or misguided as we thought. as harmful as it may be in the short term, maybe throwing a monkey wrench into the gears of power could serve a higher purpose.

JL

Judging from the funding raising reports coming in, and the fact that you need to survive a primary to get into office, the Right Lurch will continue unabated.

Top dogs like Cruz are basically fighting for the right to lose to Hillary. Romney 2.0. Further down the food chain, just plays well in Red Districts.

Unrelated, but another excellent piece on deficits: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/10/tax-rates-inequality-and-us-deficits/

Here's a sample: "Contrary to mainstream media, Obamacare is not unpopular, the survey by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner found. Instead, 62 percent of 2012 voters polled a week into the House’s shutdown strongly supported the law. That is an increase from late September, when a New York Times/CBS poll found that 56 percent of voters wanted it upheld and fixed. The share of people fervertly opposing the law is fixed at 38 percent, both surveys found, showing that support for the Affordable Care Act is growing."

No doubt you'll dismiss that, and why not? You've had a tough week what with your party's ass getting a good solid kicking and you've got to have something to fall back on.

We can do battling polls and both believe we're right, but the proof will be in the pudding down the road. I will hope things get better and better and you can hope that they get worse.

Chris: you did several good posts this week -- I was too busy to comment. RE: today's -- my bet would be they'll go with option 2 and continue the civil war through a few electoral debacles. They've all gotten so used to lying and basing everything they do/say on what Dems do, that their actual clear-thinking muscles have atrophied. Karl Rove comes out saying Obama had "led" these chumps into this trap, as an example. He was once considered brilliant and invincible.

This is what I posted. See the "errors". I guess I should have use lots of all caps and bolds to give it an hysterical tone? Your article talks about the same thing. People are signing up but due to errors between various systems, they will have to revisit their policy before getting the insurance due to a need to correct those errors.

We are talking about the problems but because we don't agree with your train wreck assessment it doesn't count?

You mentioned something vague about IT problems and tech blogs..

Basically, to there are 3 components to obamacare..

1. Signup

2. Farm out signees to the various insurance companies.

3. Signees actually getting the care they signed up for..

To date, obamacare has royally frak'ed up the first two of the components..

Relatively speaking, no one can sign up and the wrong information is being sent to insurance companies...

There is only one component left where obamacare can redeem itself..

Considering all the frak-ups to date, obamacare better start unilaterally healing cancer and herpes if it is going to hit the break even point.. :D

Michale

Obamacare woes widen as insurers get wrong data

Actually, I mentioned this in the last Friday talking points. Evidently it was not worded in hysterical enough language for you to notice?

Something about NADEX.....

Michale

Obamacare woes widen as insurers get wrong data

Insurers say the federal health-care marketplace is generating flawed data that is straining their ability to handle even the trickle of enrollees who have gotten through so far, in a sign that technological problems extend further than the website traffic and software issues already identified.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-woes-widen-as-insurers-get-wrong-data-2013-10-18

How many different ways can obamacare frak up before ya'all concede that it is, indeed, a train wreck..

Ya'all are the crew of the Titanic, assuring all the passengers that everything is fine, that the ship is a fine ship...

Michale

There is a fourth option. Reminiscent of your discussion of the Whig Party earlier (& let me endorse YoYo's comments there) the Republican Party may fracture. I'm hearing that each wing may primary key figures of the other wing. Add the typical Republican "Def Con 1" election tactics & you've got a volatile mixture.

Asking guys who were elected by lurching to the right to lurch to the center; is asking a lot. particularly if... see Primary above.

Finally, I don't think Boehner's got the clout you attribute to him.

BTW, I heard that joke about WW2 Air Force General Hap Arnold, "Son, those are the Japanese. The enemy's the US Navy.