Cause for celebration!!!

The VERY FIRST person in Delaware *finally* signed up for obamacare... :D

Again, ya gotta feel sorry for Obama. His name will be forever associated with the train wreck that is obamacare...

Kinda like Mudd.....

Michale

Michale

You should check out Salon.com Michale, they never let up on the drone war and NSA. The left is very concerned, and very disappointed in Obama for continuing the policies started by Republicans.

Bullshit.. ONE person is concerned... The rest give token responses..

Show me the type of unified hysterical opposition that we saw in the Bush years.

Hell, even here on CW.COM, we were treated to weekly commentaries on the Yoo/Torture memos.. The AT&T Domestic Surveillance scandal..

Obama actually ASSASINATES an American citizen w/o due process??

Not a peep...

This is the bigotry argument all over again..

Just concede the point and ya'all can eliminate 80% of my arguments... :D

Michale

"The deal developed by the two Senate leaders would open the government until Jan. 15 and extend the debt ceiling through Feb. 7. It also includes backpay for furloughed federal workers and an agreement for the House and Senate to finally -- for the first time in years -- open a conference committee to hash out their differing budgets, perhaps allowing them to find a longer-term solution." Courtesy Huffington Post (Sorry Michale)

Also it keeps the sequester in place.

Not ONE single Weigantian condemned Obama for the actions, the CONTINUING ACTIONS of his NSA...

Under Bush, such actions produced hysterical moral outrage..

Under Obama, such actions don't even produce comment, let alone condemnation..

That's the problem with situational principles. They are not really principles at all.

They are simply a blunt force weapon with which to beat political opponents over the head with.

All I am asking for is a little consistency...

Apparently, that's too much to ask for...

Michale

And where is the hysterical outcry from the Left, from Weigantians, that permeated the Bush years???

Non-existent..

As I said.. Cricket city...

Michale

Correction...

It's a POLITICAL issue when there is a GOP POTUS..

When it's a DEM POTUS, *then* it becomes a technology issue.

Do you know how I know this to be true??

Because, during the Bush years, the Hysterical Left AND Weigantians simply would not shut up about their privacy...

Under Obama?? With even MORE egregious privacy violations??

Nary a peep.....

It's cricket city...

These are the facts...

Michale

The secret ink is a classic gaffe.....accidentally telling a truth that is usually ignored.

I'M TYPING IN ALL CAPS TO INDICATE I'M COMPLETELY, TOTALLY, ABSOLUTELY CHALANT ABOUT PRIVACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY WORKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING I PUT OUT VIA THE WEB!!!!!!!!!!!!

EVERYTHING WILL BE STORED FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

EVERYTHING WILL BE SHARED AND STORED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

ALL SECURITY SYSTEMS HAVE HOLES, EXPECT THEM TO BE USED BY THE CLEVER AND UNSCRUPULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL THE LITTLE PIECES YOU SEND OUT WILL BE SIEVED, SORTED AND REASSEMBLED BY THIRD PARTIES, MOST OF WHOM ARE BUSINESSES TRYING TO SELL YOU SOMETHING, BUT NOT ALL!!!!!!!

AT ROOT, THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE, NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE. IT'S THE NATURE OF HIGH SPEED CONNECTIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL USER AGREEMENTS SIMPLY REMIND YOU OF THE OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

KEEP THE REAL SECRETS IN YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Don’t ask about leadership. He’s sensitive about the criticism that he hasn’t provided strong leadership.”

http://investordiscussionboard.com/boards/politpub/opinion-obamas-leadership-proves-presidency-no-place-amateurs

Apparently Obama himself realizes what a crappy leader he's been...

But at least Jimmy Carter can breathe a hefty sigh of relief..

Carter is no longer the worst POTUS ever....

Michale

Unions poised to win delay of ObamaCare tax in budget deal
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/328459-labor-gets-obamacare-olive-branch-

Corporate cronies got the one year delay on obamacare..

Now Unions are poised to get the one year delay as well..

I guess the American middle class is the only group not worthy of a delay..

Which is ironic because, of the three, it's the Middle Class that TRULY needs the break...

At least we know something for an absolutely certainty now..

Obama and the Democrats are no way, no how "warriors" for the middle class...

Obama and the Democrats are (with ya'alls tacit approval) royally screwing over the middle class...

Michale

PS: "Damn! Three times!!" :D

Since all you seem to want to do is place blame

I am also constrained to point out that, if something like this had happened under a GOP POTUS, it would be ya'all who would be hysterically placing the blame..

The funny thing is, I would be right there with ya'all, on the same page.. :D

Funny how that is, eh?? :D

Michale

Not really. GTA V launched first and is the highest selling video game of all time. The online component launched two weeks later. It should be fixed for just about everyone this week..

And obamacare is STILL a train wreck right now, two weeks later...

Ironically enough, setting up a simple sign-up website is child's play compared to setting up a world wide game server..

And I think you would agree that this particular sign up web site is a HELLUVA lot more important than just a video game.

Yet, Obama dropped the ball....

Since all you seem to want to do is place blame (isn't that what you accuse the left of?) the story has been much more interesting on tech blogs where discussion of what actually went wrong takes place...

I already know what went wrong.

But what amazes me is that ya'all refuse to admit anything is wrong..

"It's normal" "It's just the start"

While all those excuses may be true, they are still just lame excuses..

This SHOULD have gone better..

Ya'all know it. Ya'all just won't concede the point..

Even Ezra Klein, the Obamabots of all Obamabots, says it's a "big failure"...

What makes him wrong and ya'all right?? ESPECIALLY in light of the facts that completely support Klein's (and mine, incidentally) position..

I would really like an answer to that.

What makes ya'all right and Klein wrong??

TS,

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-source-code-no-reasonable-expectation-privacy_762489.html

The Privacy Statement has a lot of hidden code that is still applicable and is still binding.

I didn't design the 21st Century, I just live in it. Everything happens faster, including invasions of privacy.

Really nonchalant about it, ain'tcha :D

You weren't around here during the Bush years, but Weigantians (and the Left in general) hysterically screamed to high heaven over Bush's privacy violations..

Under Obama??

"Eh, it is what it is.. No biggies.."

So this says that ya'all (and the Left in general) REALLY don't care about privacy and stuff like that.

It's only used as a blunt impact weapon with which to beat GOP'ers over the head with..

It's just AMAZING the difference in attitudes under a '-R' POTUS compared to the attitudes under a '-D' POTUS..

Michale

This is a link to the privacy statement I electronically agreed to:

https://www.healthcare.gov/individual-privacy-act-statement/

The text does not contain "should not have any expectation of privacy" Perhaps you are extrapolating just a smidgeon?

The agreement is similar to other privacy agreements I sign every time I do a new form of internet commerce. I crossed that security Rubicon many years ago.

In the age of electronic communications, with sophisticated hacking and data mining, nobody has any expectation of complete privacy, but then, we didn't haven't have any realistic expectations when all we worried about was snail mail, phone taps and gumshoes.

I didn't design the 21st Century, I just live in it. Everything happens faster, including invasions of privacy.

Not really. GTA V launched first and is the highest selling video game of all time. The online component launched two weeks later. It should be fixed for just about everyone this week with patch 1.04 and they are handing out an "economic stimulus" of a half mil of in game currency as an apology. Rockstar has been well criticized for the launch by the gaming press and absolutely trashed by the hysterical blog posters.

Saying Obamacare is a train wreck because of the website problems is a bit of hyperbole. What it really shows is problems with government procurement and integration of computers between different departments. The site has to pull info from six different departments computer systems. According to the New York times about 50,000 people have signed up but many of those will have more work to do because of errors. Since all you seem to want to do is place blame (isn't that what you accuse the left of?) the story has been much more interesting on tech blogs where discussion of what actually went wrong takes place...

As much as it hurts, people??

THAT's the reality...

Yea, I know, I know.. Fox News blaa blaaa blaa blaaa...

I get it. The facts hurt....

Michale...

I mean, seriously, look at it.

It's all but assured that circumstances and the train wreck that is obamacare is going to FORCE the delay...

Obama can get in front of that and appear magnanimous in announcing the delay... This will put the GOP on the spot and force them to play defense...

In short, Obama can appear presidential in giving the GOP something that he is going to be FORCED to do down the road...

I honestly don't think Obama will avail himself of this golden opportunity...

His ego just won't let him admit that he frak'ed up... Frak'ed up good...

Michale

Would a Fortune 100 company kill one of their IT investments? Or would they fix it?

Depends..

If the cost to fix it exceeds the market value, better to cut the losses and start over..

Using Bashi's GTA online analogy, if the real GTA 5 had had THESE kinds of problems for such a length of time, it's likely they would have bag'ed the entire idea and started over...

Of course, no one on the Left will even admit there's a problem, so fixing it takes on a whole new level of crazy..

I think ya'all can admit now that calling obamacare a train wreck is putting it nicely..

Michale

Wanted to ask ya something..

Since you are, apparently, the ONLY person on the planet that has actually signed up for obamacare, what do you think of their Privacy Statement?

The Privacy Statement for obamacare basically states that they can share all of your information with any agency they deem necessary and that you "should not have any expectation of privacy" with regards to any and all of your data..

Whatcha think??

Michale

Would a Fortune 100 company kill one of their IT investments? Or would they fix it?

-David

Michale

You would have to look quite hard to find a more fanatical Obamabot than Klein...

Even HE says it's a "big failure"...

Are ya'all ready to concede that obamacare, as of right now, is a train wreck??

"Come on, you can say it. It's OK, they know already..."
-Joe Pesci, MY COUSIN VINNY

I know it's hard to say the words, "Michale, you were right." I know.. I get it...

But, whether it was the shutdown or obamacare.... The fact is I called both dead on ballz accurate...

"It's an industry term."
Marisa Tomeii, MY COUSIN VINNY

:D

Michale

Obamacare ‘navigator’ in Kansas has outstanding arrest warrant
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/14/obamacare-navigator-in-kansas-has-outstanding-arrest-warrant/

Yea, I know, I know..

In and of itself, it really doesn't mean much. I completely agree...

But ya'all gotta admit..

It's a PR nightmare on a program that is chock FULL o' PR nightmares...

How many more head-slaps can obamacare take???

Michale

Fanaticism really knows no religious (OR political) boundaries...

Michale

Heheh. I'm actually fine w/ the majority of Christians. Mostly because most Christians a) believe in freedom of religion, b) aren't trying to force their religious views on everyone (believe in separation of church & state).

I'd pretty much say the same thing about any religion: Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, etc.

It's the folks that can't seem to accept one or the other of these views that I'm typically at odds with. In any religion

:)

-David

Now ya know how *I* feel.. :D

"The only problem with born again Christians is that they are a bigger pain in the ass the second time around"

:D

Michale

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/10/inside-the-conservative-bubble-it-looks-like-ted-cruz-is-winning-big/280532/?google_editors_picks=true

"If God is with you, who can be against you?"

At the same time, who can even talk to you?

I'm fine with religion, but the people that think God is talking to them scare me.

-David

Yer a poet and ya don't know it..
But yer feet show it...
Cuz they're Longfellows...

yuk yuk yuk :D

Michale

Thank, you, thank you, Always wanted to be an urban legend in my own time! :) Handicapped by my lack of Big Feet. I'm terrible at spontaneous combustion and have never met an alien.

If you're right, it's the first lottery I've ever won.

Persistence on my part played a role.

Obamacare enrollees become urban legend
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/10/13/3685595/obamacare-enrollees-become-urban.html

Congrats...

Yer an Urban Legend :D

Michale

Glad to hear you are a happy obamacare subscriber...

And, apparently, the ONLY one to date. :D

There are many many MANY more testimonials of people with "sticker shock" and obamacare ruining their lives...

But I am happy to hear you are happy.. :D

Michale

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/13/Barricades-moved-WH?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Veterans are storming the open air monuments and memorials, grabbing the barry-cades and taking them over to the White House!

Suck on THAT, OBAMA!!! :D

That just makes my day! :D

Michale

The train seems to be getting back on the tracks.

I was able to sign up for new health insurance last Friday, using the Internet. I may well have been one of the first.

The process was slow, partly because there were a lot of questions to answer, and partly because the web engine is clearly cross checking a lot of data bases.

The interface isn't slick, and often leaves you watching an arrow chasing it's tail, and wondering is this thing actually working? Sometimes no, but I was always able to log back in and start where I left off, and after about 2hrs (!!!) at the last screen, I did get an insurance provider. I had about 16 choices, and was able to keep my existing Doctor and dentist. Doing a comparable search entirely on my own would not have been feasible...I have a life, I have to work.

The electronic sign up is very imperfect, but ultimately pretty impressive. It does most of the data research for you, and leaves a good trail of documentation, which you can print out or leave on your hard drive. Best of all, I actually have solid insurance that I can easily afford.

Anybody else tried this yet?

Call me silly, but referring to the minority as "terrorists", "arsonists" and "hostage takers" doesn't seem to me to be "careful hearing and consideration"...

But that's probably just my warped and biased view, I 'spose...

Michale

I understand what you are saying SF, and to a certain extent, you are right...

All I am saying is that, one day, the Democrats will be in the minority..

And since everyone knows that Republicans are evil infant eating terrorists, is it wise to give the GOP tools to ignore the minority??

Our system was designed so that our Congress would have to work TOGETHER to accomplish things..

But the well has been so poisoned that it's impossible to do.

And, contrary to what ya'all think, BOTH Partys are to blame for that..

But the solution is not to give MORE power to the majority..

Because, as I point out above, one day the "terrorists" will be the majority Party..

Think of the damage they can do with the powers you want to hand to the Democrats..

That's all I am saying..

Michale

I'm just sayin'.....

I mean, seriously...

Think about it..

Ya'all have given any future POTUS the green light, tacit approval, to ASSASSINATE American citizens without any due process whatsoever...

Ya'all have given any future POTUS unfettered access to ANY and ALL American's communications, no matter how irrelevant to ANY investigation..

Ya'all have, with great gusto and enthusiasm, opened up Dick Cheney's Pandora Box...

Ya'all want to give to the Majority the complete, unfettered and un-opposed ability to run totally roughshod over the minority. To render the Minority utterly and unequivocally irrelevant and impotent in the governing of this nation...

"THINK... Before you strike."
-Smokey The Bear

Michale

Born and bred.. I am a San Diego boy, thru and thru.. With the exception of a couple years in New Jersey, I was born in California and left at age 17...

I have been back a couple times since... And I see what a horrible economic cesspool and urbanized cluster-frak Democrats have made my home state...

The GEOGRAPHY of California is un-paralleled ...

The intrusion of government and the total inept way the economy has been handled??

Completely Democrat...

Mayor of my home town??? A Democrat...

Well, FORMER mayor anyways.. :D

Is it a good idea to have a system that allows a small minority to thwart the will of the majority?

It was when Democrats had the minority..

You see the point???

Ya'all whine and bitch about the tyranny of the minority...

Yet, ya'all whined and bitched about the tyranny of the MAJORITY, when that majority was the GOP..

In essence, when the Democrats are the minority, everything is the GOP's fault..

When Democrats are the majority, everything is STILL the GOP's fault..

When Democrats have a LOCK on all facets of the government up to, AND INCLUDING, the White House.......

Everything is STILL the GOP's fault...

And ya'all wonder why I compare political fanaticism to religious fanaticism...

It's the same mindless devotion... Totally lacking of rational or logical thought...

If we agree that these procedures are harmful and ultimately counter productive shouldn't we be talking about the structural changes necessary to prevent this sort of thing in the future.

By all means.. Change things so that the Majority can more easily impose their will and sideline the Minority..

And what happens when the DEMOCRATS are the Minority??

Don't you think talk like that is... well, somewhat short-sighted??

I'm just sayin'.....

Michale...

Forget for a moment who did it, or even why they did it, the question is simply: "Is this a good way to run the country?" Is it a good idea to have a system that allows a small minority to thwart the will of the majority? Is it advisable to grant the Speaker, any Speaker, the ability to deny a vote on a piece of legislation? If we agree that these procedures are harmful and ultimately counter productive shouldn't we be talking about the structural changes necessary to prevent this sort of thing in the future.

The problem with those long term agendas is that they are antithetical to the well-being of this country and her people..

One only has to look at California, Detroit, the Democrat National Committee and the White House gift shop to know this to be true...

Michale

Train wreck..

Pure and simple...

Michale

I wouldn't be so sure about the Republicans blinking first, or anybody blinking as the United States heads into default.

The game at this points seems to pit short term Republican political priorities (fear of tea party primary challengers) against the President's and Senate's longer term agendas, which basically demand long term deal making and accommodation.

If Boehner and other establishment Republican players (notably big money donors) can't control fearful congressional incumbents, than neither side may see any compelling reason to blink first.

He simply wants total abject surrender from Republicans...

I wish I could say I was surprised...

Michale

http://lifeonthescenicroute.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/mt-rushmore-from-the-canadian-side.jpg

:D

Michale

As much as it disappoints me, I have to concede that it looks like the GOP is going to cave... :(

The ONLY silver lining to this is the fact that, when Obama and the Democrats renege on their promise to negotiate, I will have another "TOLD YA SO" notch in my belt..

Looks like I am going to have to gain more weight. The TOLD YA SO belt is getting too full of notches.

As I said, I'm not a big fan of false equivalency,

Who is??

But let's face the facts here. There is enough legit equivalency to choke an elephant...

Not that anyone here will concede that fact, of course.. :D

But the media should really try to get it right.

Have you MET our media??? :D

Boehner needs something to save face, and it's conceivable that Obama will toss him some sort of legislative scrap or another in the negotiation

Around these here parts of the country, that's called negotiating in bad faith..

I mean, if you ENTER into negotiation with your mind already made up, how is that "negotiation"??

Let me finish with a point I made the last commentary. A point that bears repeating because it's so dead on ballz accurate...

The faux-outrage over Obama's shutdown is ridiculous..

If a government shutdown was the only way that ya'all could get your Single Payer, then ya'all would be pushing your Democrats to shut the government down in a stone cold minute..

The shutdown was, is and always will be a political tactic...

And, let's face it.. A Party that would stoop to calling political opponents "terrorists" would have absolutely NO PROBLEM shutting the government down to achieve their agenda..

The Democrats problem has never been one of desire.

It's always been a question of competence...

If ya'all are honest with yourselves, you would acknowledge this simple truth...

Michale

To expand the imagery a bit....

What really worries me is that "The Cave" is situated pretty close to the lip of "The (Fiscal) Cliff." Both parties could go over that lip as they grapple heedlessly, egged on by their sweaty, bearded, torch bearing, ocher painted warriors.

Then the press will have to figure out who in the gulch is more badly hurt.