I remind you that Obama and his cronies worked real REAL hard to get Unions exempt from Obamacare..

But I guess they realized what a bonehead move that would, considering all the other bonehead moves they had made...

Did Joe and Jane Sixpack have health insurance before Obamacare and, if not, why not?

Of course they did. And they really liked it and their doctor

But now, because of Obamacare, not only do they don't get to stay on their insurances, not only do they not get to keep their doctor (OC forced him out of business) they can't even afford the new plan they are forced into because of skyrocketing premiums..

So, I ask again.

What's to like about Obamacare???

TS,

A substantial subset of the US population will be exempt from mandated coverage.

Yea, I already know. CongressCritters, their families and their staff. Plus Dem political donors..

That's part of the problem..

In that context, your phrase "just because you exist" can be more clearly understood as "applies to everybody who meets certain criteria."

That's one of the reasons that Obamacare sucks..

A substantial subset of the US population will be exempt from mandated coverage.

In that context, your phrase "just because you exist" can be more clearly understood as "applies to everybody who meets certain criteria."

That's nothing new, just a basic principle of law.

More challengers to follow?

Beats me.. :D

No, I don't think it does, actually ...

Did Joe and Jane Sixpack have health insurance before Obamacare and, if not, why not?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/09/19/spitting-on-their-graves-democrats-leave-benghazi-hearing-before-testimony-from-benghazi-families-n1704732

This is why I dislike Democrats so intensely... Not a shred of decency in any of them...

Beats me.. :D

All I know is that if Obamacare is so bad that CongressCritters, their families and their staffs have to get a special exemption FROM it then why should Joe and Jane Sixpack have to suffer with it??

If corporate interests need to obtain special (and illegal) delays from Obamacare, why should Joe and Jane SixPack not receive the same delay??

No one wants to address these FACTS over Obamacare because they are only explainable by one supported conclusion.

Obamacare sucks...

If Obama Bestest Business Bud, Warren Buffett wants to repeal Obamacare and start over, shouldn't that tell ya'all something??

Which system is more like government-run socialized healthcare, the system Congress has or Obamacare?

If Obamacare is so good for Americans, why are CongressCritters and their entire staffs exempt from it???

Look at the polls.. I know ya'all love to when the polls say what you want...

More Americans are against Obamacare than ever before...

So, if Obama and the Democrats choose Obamacare over a working government, how is it that Republicans will be blamed???

Of course, that SHOULD read "w/OUT clue one..." ...

My brain had already jumped ahead to the movie quote.. :D

Auto Insurance is a state issue, not federal...

Further, you are not being forced to buy auto insurance.. You only have to buy it if you drive... It's like getting sky-diving insurance. If you want to sky-dive, you have to get the insurance...

Obamacare is a whole nother animal...

You have to buy it simply because you exist.

Auto Insurance is an If-You/Then-You requirement..

Obamacare is You-Must-Period...

It's comparing apples and orangutans....

Moving on... Everyone who defends Obamacare ignores the facts...

Employees are having their hours (hence their pay) cut because of Obamacare.

Insurance rates are rising all over, some by as much as 300%!

No one ever said that the middle class will get screwed if we pass Obamacare.

Everything good about Obamacare has been proven wrong.

Everything bad predicted about Obamacare has come to pass. Not being able to keep your doctor. Not being able to stay on your plan. Not even being able to have the hours to qualify for employer health plans...

And ALL of this has come to pass even before it's official!!!

I won't even bother mentioning that, if Obamacare is so good, why all the delays?? Why all the missed deadlines???

What kind of chicken-shit outfit puts together this kind of plan w/ clue one how to implement it??

"How do I get out of this chicken-shit outfit!??"
-Cpl Hudson, ALIENS

Even Warren Buffett says to scrap Obamacare and start over!!

And Buffett is Obama's bestest bud....

Obama and Democrats would do themselves a world of favor if they would jump on Buffett's bandwagon....

Michale

Michael, the polling on Obama Care is complicated. It boils down to two conflicting little nuggets...responders tend to dislike Obama Care, but tend to like its individual elements.

Obama lifted the whole idea from a Republican think tank. A prototype was implemented by a Republican Governor (I forget his name, and none of my Republican friends can recall it either), so it seems Republicans could actually support this Plan From Hell BO (Before Obama).

The prototype has worked fairly well in MA, most people in MA are insured now, that was the primary intent. There have been no street riots, the economy has not collapsed. I was briefly there last spring myself, but called up some connections in MA just to make sure the lights were still on, and the fast food was flowing. They are, it is.

Its reasonably popular in MA where people have had time to try it on, take it for a spin, etc. Of course, MA is well known to be a highly liberal socialist state, except by people who actually live there, or have relatives who live there. Michael, it's not all Haavaad. It's just Blue.

Mandatory insurance is required in my home state. It's expensive, it's not subsidized. People still drive to work, including most of the folks making minimum wage at the big box stores and chain eateries. Where is the auto insurance rage? Is not the automobile more central to the American Way of Life than health care?

And it's not just me who is wondering what the frak is going on....

That the American people will hold Republicans and not the inept scandal-ridden Administration responsible..

But here's food for thought..

What if ya'all are wrong??

"If I'm wrong, nothing happens! We go to jail, peacefully, quietly, we'll enjoy it! But if I am right... And we CAN stop this thing.... Lenny... YOU will have saved the lives of millions... of registered voters."
-Peter Venkmen, GHOSTBUSTERS

Just think about it. Think of the consequences to the Democratic Party and Obama's agenda if ya'all are wrong and the American people hold Obama and the Democrats accountable in 2014....

You mean they would actually wake up one morning and realize what the majority of Americans (as high as 75%!) have already realized??

That they would wake up one morning and accept the reality that ObamaCare does suck??

Yer right. That's simply impossible..

Again, I have to ask..

Despite ALL the evidence to the contrary, the cut in employee hours and pay, the lay off of workers, the sky high astronomical rate hike of the costs...

Despite ALL of that, WHY do ya'all still think that ObamaCare is a GOOD thing???

Besides the obvious reason that it has Obama's name on it, I mean...

But, here's another possibility you might like to comment upon....will Boehner retire as speaker? The job can't be much fun, and I expect he'll face a primary challenger from the TP wing.

Get into lobbying after a few years, brush up the old golf game. Oh, and spend more time with his family.