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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Title: Friday Talking Points [271] -- A Weed Screed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisWeigant.com &#187; Title: Friday Talking Points [271] -- A Weed Screed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Aug 2013 01:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has only won this prestigious &quot;Golden Backbone&quot; award four times previously, one of which was two weeks ago when he announced he would be changing the &quot;mandatory minimum&quot; policies of the federal government [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41344</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;THE GREAT BIRD OF THE GALAXY&lt;/B&gt;
http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120725194440/memoryalpha/en/images/4/4e/Great_Bird_of_the_Galaxy.jpg


:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>THE GREAT BIRD OF THE GALAXY</b><br />
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<p>:D</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41333</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;On Undue Command Influence, I must admit I&#039;d never heard of it before, but then I am ignorant of most of the UCMJ, so you&#039;ll have to forgive me.&lt;/I&gt;

It boils down to a Commander indicating what he WANTS to happen, rather than what SHOULD happen based on the evidence.  

If Colonel David Miller (Bradley Manning&#039;s CO) we&#039;re to be asked what should happen to Manning and Miller answers, &quot;I think we should throw him in jail and lose the key!&quot; that would be a textbook example of Undue Command Influence.

&lt;I&gt;On the clown thing, he got fired, lefties said some silly things (according to you, but I&#039;ll take your word for it), righties said some silly things, and it died down. I refused to take the bait, because in August if you highlight silly stories sometimes they grow beyond all recognition, and I didn&#039;t think the story merited that treatment. I could be wrong, I did indeed consider tossing it in there, I will admit...&lt;/I&gt;

OK, OK...  But there is &quot;silly&quot; and there is downright ridiculous...

And wanting the clown prosecuted for a &quot;Hate Crime&quot;  (Clown... Hate... get it??  :D) is utterly and unequivocally ridiculous...

&lt;I&gt;[Hypothetically conceding your point for the sake of argument]... ah, but it&#039;s such good spin! &lt;/I&gt;

Touche&#039;..

And yes, it&#039;s great spin..  :D

&lt;I&gt;The Great Bird of the Galaxy? Do tell...&lt;/I&gt;

For shame!!!

10 hours in the Agony Booth&lt;B&gt;*&lt;/B&gt; for you!!!

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Great_Bird_of_the_Galaxy

*-Of course, we&#039;re more humane in Weigantia than in the Mirror Universe..  In Weigantia, the &quot;Agony Booth&quot; is a sealed chamber with a computer screen that shows nothing but Michale comments...  

OK... Maybe NOT so more humane   :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>On Undue Command Influence, I must admit I'd never heard of it before, but then I am ignorant of most of the UCMJ, so you'll have to forgive me.</i></p>
<p>It boils down to a Commander indicating what he WANTS to happen, rather than what SHOULD happen based on the evidence.  </p>
<p>If Colonel David Miller (Bradley Manning's CO) we're to be asked what should happen to Manning and Miller answers, "I think we should throw him in jail and lose the key!" that would be a textbook example of Undue Command Influence.</p>
<p><i>On the clown thing, he got fired, lefties said some silly things (according to you, but I'll take your word for it), righties said some silly things, and it died down. I refused to take the bait, because in August if you highlight silly stories sometimes they grow beyond all recognition, and I didn't think the story merited that treatment. I could be wrong, I did indeed consider tossing it in there, I will admit...</i></p>
<p>OK, OK...  But there is "silly" and there is downright ridiculous...</p>
<p>And wanting the clown prosecuted for a "Hate Crime"  (Clown... Hate... get it??  :D) is utterly and unequivocally ridiculous...</p>
<p><i>[Hypothetically conceding your point for the sake of argument]... ah, but it's such good spin! </i></p>
<p>Touche'..</p>
<p>And yes, it's great spin..  :D</p>
<p><i>The Great Bird of the Galaxy? Do tell...</i></p>
<p>For shame!!!</p>
<p>10 hours in the Agony Booth<b>*</b> for you!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Great_Bird_of_the_Galaxy" rel="nofollow">http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Great_Bird_of_the_Galaxy</a></p>
<p>*-Of course, we're more humane in Weigantia than in the Mirror Universe..  In Weigantia, the "Agony Booth" is a sealed chamber with a computer screen that shows nothing but Michale comments...  </p>
<p>OK... Maybe NOT so more humane   :D</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41323</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 00:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale [1] -

On Undue Command Influence, I must admit I&#039;d never heard of it before, but then I am ignorant of most of the UCMJ, so you&#039;ll have to forgive me.

On the clown thing, he got fired, lefties said some silly things (according to you, but I&#039;ll take your word for it), righties said some silly things, and it died down.  I refused to take the bait, because in August if you highlight silly stories sometimes they grow beyond all recognition, and I didn&#039;t think the story merited that treatment.  I could be wrong, I did indeed consider tossing it in there, I will admit...

&lt;em&gt;It&#039;s not a &quot;war&quot; on anyone. It&#039;s just spin...&lt;/em&gt;

[Hypothetically conceding your point for the sake of argument]... ah, but it&#039;s such &lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; spin!  It is &lt;em&gt;Friday&lt;/em&gt; after all, and microscopically examining spin is what we do here.

:-)

See, it was more fun for me to answer that then to argue the whole &quot;spin&quot; thing, wasn&#039;t it?  Heh.

Michael [8] -

The Great Bird of the Galaxy?  Do tell...

The closest I can come is the Bird in Robert A. Heinlein&#039;s &quot;The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag&quot; but I just know that can&#039;t be right...

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale [1] -</p>
<p>On Undue Command Influence, I must admit I'd never heard of it before, but then I am ignorant of most of the UCMJ, so you'll have to forgive me.</p>
<p>On the clown thing, he got fired, lefties said some silly things (according to you, but I'll take your word for it), righties said some silly things, and it died down.  I refused to take the bait, because in August if you highlight silly stories sometimes they grow beyond all recognition, and I didn't think the story merited that treatment.  I could be wrong, I did indeed consider tossing it in there, I will admit...</p>
<p><em>It's not a "war" on anyone. It's just spin...</em></p>
<p>[Hypothetically conceding your point for the sake of argument]... ah, but it's such <em>good</em> spin!  It is <em>Friday</em> after all, and microscopically examining spin is what we do here.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>See, it was more fun for me to answer that then to argue the whole "spin" thing, wasn't it?  Heh.</p>
<p>Michael [8] -</p>
<p>The Great Bird of the Galaxy?  Do tell...</p>
<p>The closest I can come is the Bird in Robert A. Heinlein's "The Unpleasant Profession of Jonathan Hoag" but I just know that can't be right...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41280</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another &quot;what if it had happened under a Bush Administration&quot; question...

&lt;B&gt;Obama administration asks Supreme Court to allow warrantless cellphone searches&lt;/B&gt;
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/19/obama-administration-asks-supreme-court-to-allow-warrantless-cellphone-searches/?print=1

Ya&#039;all simply don&#039;t realize the pretty pickle ya will be in under a future GOP POTUS...  

All the things ya&#039;all loved to complain about and condemn during the Bush years will be off limits under the next GOP Pres... 

It&#039;s gonna be interesting to see the dynamics that will be at work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another "what if it had happened under a Bush Administration" question...</p>
<p><b>Obama administration asks Supreme Court to allow warrantless cellphone searches</b><br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/19/obama-administration-asks-supreme-court-to-allow-warrantless-cellphone-searches/?print=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/19/obama-administration-asks-supreme-court-to-allow-warrantless-cellphone-searches/?print=1</a></p>
<p>Ya'all simply don't realize the pretty pickle ya will be in under a future GOP POTUS...  </p>
<p>All the things ya'all loved to complain about and condemn during the Bush years will be off limits under the next GOP Pres... </p>
<p>It's gonna be interesting to see the dynamics that will be at work.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41279</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;White House Had Advance Notice on Heathrow Detention&lt;/B&gt;
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/19/white-house-had-advance-notice-on-heathrow-detention/?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories

Imagine the outcry from the Left if this had happened under the Bush Administration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>White House Had Advance Notice on Heathrow Detention</b><br />
<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/19/white-house-had-advance-notice-on-heathrow-detention/?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/08/19/white-house-had-advance-notice-on-heathrow-detention/?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories</a></p>
<p>Imagine the outcry from the Left if this had happened under the Bush Administration...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41278</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH yea, I read about that..

But I don&#039;t see the connection between focusing on the Zimmerman trial and trying to be more Fox than Fox...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH yea, I read about that..</p>
<p>But I don't see the connection between focusing on the Zimmerman trial and trying to be more Fox than Fox...</p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41277</link>
		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2013 01:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; You must be watching the Vulcan version of CNN... :D &lt;/i&gt; 

Rather the Jeff Zucker version of CNN  :)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/13/us-usa-florida-shooting-television-idUSBRE96C05D20130713

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> You must be watching the Vulcan version of CNN... :D </i> </p>
<p>Rather the Jeff Zucker version of CNN  :)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/13/us-usa-florida-shooting-television-idUSBRE96C05D20130713" rel="nofollow">http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/13/us-usa-florida-shooting-television-idUSBRE96C05D20130713</a></p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41276</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt; You are preaching to the choir&lt;/I&gt;

If you&#039;ll forgive the expression...  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> You are preaching to the choir</i></p>
<p>If you'll forgive the expression...  :D</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41275</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;yes, that is the right wing point of view, &lt;/I&gt;

I submit that it is a common sense and mature point of view reflective of an acknowledgement of personal responsibility...

&lt;I&gt;ostensibly all the government intrusion into a woman&#039;s decision to have an abortion is to protect &quot;babies&quot; from poor parental decision-making.&lt;/I&gt;

Again, that is spin..

It could ALSO be said it is government protection of human beings who simply cannot protect themselves..

Something the Left ALSO espouses, when it suits their agenda..

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  You are preaching to the choir on the issue of abortion..

I simply point out that ONE possible explanation for a Party&#039;s actions is not the *ONLY* possible explanation..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>yes, that is the right wing point of view, </i></p>
<p>I submit that it is a common sense and mature point of view reflective of an acknowledgement of personal responsibility...</p>
<p><i>ostensibly all the government intrusion into a woman's decision to have an abortion is to protect "babies" from poor parental decision-making.</i></p>
<p>Again, that is spin..</p>
<p>It could ALSO be said it is government protection of human beings who simply cannot protect themselves..</p>
<p>Something the Left ALSO espouses, when it suits their agenda..</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong.  You are preaching to the choir on the issue of abortion..</p>
<p>I simply point out that ONE possible explanation for a Party's actions is not the *ONLY* possible explanation..</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, gee whiz, maybe that&#039;s because it&#039;s the PARENTS who should be doing that, eh??&lt;/i&gt;

yes, that is the right wing point of view, that the government does not have the responsibility to provide any assistance to new parents who are struggling, and they should be required to solve all their problems on their own. that is one point of view, but it&#039;s inconsistent with the other right wing point of view. ostensibly all the government intrusion into a woman&#039;s decision to have an abortion is to protect &quot;babies&quot; from poor parental decision-making.

one cannot hold both points of view simultaneously and be internally consistent. either prospective parents get to take the responsibility and make their own decisions without government intervention, or the government has the right and duty to intervene in both pregnancy and child-rearing, OR the left are correct that fetuses and babies are absolutely not the same thing. any other combination cannot logically cohere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, gee whiz, maybe that's because it's the PARENTS who should be doing that, eh??</i></p>
<p>yes, that is the right wing point of view, that the government does not have the responsibility to provide any assistance to new parents who are struggling, and they should be required to solve all their problems on their own. that is one point of view, but it's inconsistent with the other right wing point of view. ostensibly all the government intrusion into a woman's decision to have an abortion is to protect "babies" from poor parental decision-making.</p>
<p>one cannot hold both points of view simultaneously and be internally consistent. either prospective parents get to take the responsibility and make their own decisions without government intervention, or the government has the right and duty to intervene in both pregnancy and child-rearing, OR the left are correct that fetuses and babies are absolutely not the same thing. any other combination cannot logically cohere.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41271</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;The network who is bending over backwards these days trying to outFox Fox. &lt;/I&gt;

You must be watching the Vulcan version of CNN...  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The network who is bending over backwards these days trying to outFox Fox. </i></p>
<p>You must be watching the Vulcan version of CNN...  :D</p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41269</link>
		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 12:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; It all stems from the news that the Republican National Committee has announced it will not sanction 2016 Republican candidate debates on CNN and NBC &lt;/i&gt; 

No loss. It does surprise me a little bit that they&#039;re taking on CNN though. The network who is bending over backwards these days trying to outFox Fox. 

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> It all stems from the news that the Republican National Committee has announced it will not sanction 2016 Republican candidate debates on CNN and NBC </i> </p>
<p>No loss. It does surprise me a little bit that they're taking on CNN though. The network who is bending over backwards these days trying to outFox Fox. </p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41268</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note..

A great big galactic Happy Birthday to The Great Bird Of The Galaxy...</description>
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<p>A great big galactic Happy Birthday to The Great Bird Of The Galaxy...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41267</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt; the right has made no effort to help fetuses after they&#039;re carried to term, only to prevent abortion.&lt;/I&gt;

Well, gee whiz, maybe that&#039;s because it&#039;s the PARENTS who should be doing that, eh??

It&#039;s a sad day in this country when it&#039;s citizens expect the government to take over parenting...

THAT is what&#039;s wrong with our society.  Allegedly mature adults looking out for their OWN fun and play and letting the government, TV, Video Games etc etc raise their kids..

Whatever happened to &quot;personal responsibility&quot;??

Oh, that&#039;s right.  This country is run by Democrats now....  :^/

One only has to look at Detroit (ruled by Democrats since &#039;62) turned out...  :^/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> the right has made no effort to help fetuses after they're carried to term, only to prevent abortion.</i></p>
<p>Well, gee whiz, maybe that's because it's the PARENTS who should be doing that, eh??</p>
<p>It's a sad day in this country when it's citizens expect the government to take over parenting...</p>
<p>THAT is what's wrong with our society.  Allegedly mature adults looking out for their OWN fun and play and letting the government, TV, Video Games etc etc raise their kids..</p>
<p>Whatever happened to "personal responsibility"??</p>
<p>Oh, that's right.  This country is run by Democrats now....  :^/</p>
<p>One only has to look at Detroit (ruled by Democrats since '62) turned out...  :^/</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41266</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Egypt is going to become another Syria....

And to think everyone thought Obama&#039;s foreign policy was his best accomplishment....  :^/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Egypt is going to become another Syria....</p>
<p>And to think everyone thought Obama's foreign policy was his best accomplishment....  :^/</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/08/16/ftp269/#comment-41261</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 21:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;is that actually the case?&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s what I hear...

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1020436?ref=feeds%2Flatest

&lt;I&gt;don&#039;t take my word for it, ask that bastion of liberalism, the wall street journal:&lt;/I&gt;

I am assuming you forgot the {/snark} tag??  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>is that actually the case?</i></p>
<p>That's what I hear...</p>
<p><a href="http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1020436?ref=feeds%2Flatest" rel="nofollow">http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1020436?ref=feeds%2Flatest</a></p>
<p><i>don't take my word for it, ask that bastion of liberalism, the wall street journal:</i></p>
<p>I am assuming you forgot the {/snark} tag??  :D</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Again, that&#039;s just spin...&lt;/i&gt;

no, it&#039;s a political position supported by evidence from more than one issue. the right has made no effort to help fetuses after they&#039;re carried to term, only to prevent abortion. therefore, the evidence underlying the spin on that side stems only from one narrowly defined issue, which also happens to be inconsistent with that side&#039;s purported goals on other, related issues. the evidence underlying the war on women meme comes from many different issues and impacts many different areas of society, some (but far from all) of which i outlined above.

&lt;i&gt;I find it next to impossible that the Federal Debt hasn&#039;t changed ONE SINGLE PENNY in almost 3 months..&lt;/i&gt;

is that actually the case? if so, perhaps that&#039;s not creative accounting but due to growth in revenue. don&#039;t take my word for it, ask that bastion of liberalism, the wall street journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324085304579008922578996940.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Again, that's just spin...</i></p>
<p>no, it's a political position supported by evidence from more than one issue. the right has made no effort to help fetuses after they're carried to term, only to prevent abortion. therefore, the evidence underlying the spin on that side stems only from one narrowly defined issue, which also happens to be inconsistent with that side's purported goals on other, related issues. the evidence underlying the war on women meme comes from many different issues and impacts many different areas of society, some (but far from all) of which i outlined above.</p>
<p><i>I find it next to impossible that the Federal Debt hasn't changed ONE SINGLE PENNY in almost 3 months..</i></p>
<p>is that actually the case? if so, perhaps that's not creative accounting but due to growth in revenue. don't take my word for it, ask that bastion of liberalism, the wall street journal:</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324085304579008922578996940.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324085304579008922578996940.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;...and for twenty years they absolutely have. frankly, it&#039;s about time the left finally caught up. furthermore, the war on women has substantially more evidentiary support than accusations of hostility toward &quot;babies.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Again, that&#039;s just spin...

&lt;I&gt;the left have not lobbied for reductions in maternity services or child care, for example.&lt;/I&gt;

No, they just lobbied to give abortion services to teens and pre-teens w/o parental consent..

It&#039;s all in the spin...

&lt;I&gt;believe it or not, that&#039;s substantial progress. any deficit at all would cause the debt to grow, no matter how small. the only way to shrink the debt is to create a budget surplus (like clinton did) and not piss it away (like bush did). easier said than done.&lt;/I&gt;

I find it next to impossible that the Federal Debt hasn&#039;t changed ONE SINGLE PENNY in almost 3 months..

And it&#039;s stuck RIGHT below the debt ceiling limit..

Yea, I know.. The Left claims that &quot;creative accounting&quot; is responsible..  Let&#039;s have them take their tax forms to the IRS and tell them they used &quot;creative accounting&quot;...

Let&#039;s see how that flies...  :D

&lt;I&gt;Whew.... OK, got that outta my system... :D&lt;/I&gt;

Apparently, I haven&#039;t, cuz something new just caught my eye...

The Left wants the DOJ to investigate this clown... wait for it....  wait for it....  &lt;B&gt; a HATE crime!!!&lt;/B&gt;

Get that??? 

A clown...

HATE crime....

ONLY the Democrats could come up with something so completely and utterly moronic!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>...and for twenty years they absolutely have. frankly, it's about time the left finally caught up. furthermore, the war on women has substantially more evidentiary support than accusations of hostility toward "babies."</i></p>
<p>Again, that's just spin...</p>
<p><i>the left have not lobbied for reductions in maternity services or child care, for example.</i></p>
<p>No, they just lobbied to give abortion services to teens and pre-teens w/o parental consent..</p>
<p>It's all in the spin...</p>
<p><i>believe it or not, that's substantial progress. any deficit at all would cause the debt to grow, no matter how small. the only way to shrink the debt is to create a budget surplus (like clinton did) and not piss it away (like bush did). easier said than done.</i></p>
<p>I find it next to impossible that the Federal Debt hasn't changed ONE SINGLE PENNY in almost 3 months..</p>
<p>And it's stuck RIGHT below the debt ceiling limit..</p>
<p>Yea, I know.. The Left claims that "creative accounting" is responsible..  Let's have them take their tax forms to the IRS and tell them they used "creative accounting"...</p>
<p>Let's see how that flies...  :D</p>
<p><i>Whew.... OK, got that outta my system... :D</i></p>
<p>Apparently, I haven't, cuz something new just caught my eye...</p>
<p>The Left wants the DOJ to investigate this clown... wait for it....  wait for it....  <b> a HATE crime!!!</b></p>
<p>Get that??? </p>
<p>A clown...</p>
<p>HATE crime....</p>
<p>ONLY the Democrats could come up with something so completely and utterly moronic!!</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 14:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It&#039;s not a &quot;war&quot; on anyone. It&#039;s just spin... One could easily spin about the Democrats &quot;War On Newborn Babies&quot;.... &lt;/i&gt;

...and for twenty years they absolutely have. frankly, it&#039;s about time the left finally caught up. furthermore, the war on women has substantially more evidentiary support than accusations of hostility toward &quot;babies.&quot; the left have not lobbied for reductions in maternity services or child care, for example.

the right on the other hand absolutely have tried to restrict contraception, to limit rape and domestic abuse prosecution, to be more permissive of gender-biased pay and sexual harassment in the workplace, to mandate medically unnecessary and highly intrusive gynecological procedures while railing against the intrusions of &quot;big government.&quot; and that&#039;s even before we get into the comments of folks like todd akin.

so yes, the war on women is a way of politically spinning a series of facts and events. but the facts and events themselves are undeniable, which is the main reason why the meme has been successful.

&lt;i&gt;And the National Debt has remained EXACTLY the same for the the last 3 months....&lt;/i&gt;

believe it or not, that&#039;s substantial progress. any deficit at all would cause the debt to grow, no matter how small. the only way to shrink the debt is to create a budget surplus (like clinton did) and not piss it away (like bush did). easier said than done.

i&#039;m first in line to criticize obama for things i think he&#039;s gotten wrong, but the federal budget is an area where he seems to genuinely be improving.

JL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It's not a "war" on anyone. It's just spin... One could easily spin about the Democrats "War On Newborn Babies".... </i></p>
<p>...and for twenty years they absolutely have. frankly, it's about time the left finally caught up. furthermore, the war on women has substantially more evidentiary support than accusations of hostility toward "babies." the left have not lobbied for reductions in maternity services or child care, for example.</p>
<p>the right on the other hand absolutely have tried to restrict contraception, to limit rape and domestic abuse prosecution, to be more permissive of gender-biased pay and sexual harassment in the workplace, to mandate medically unnecessary and highly intrusive gynecological procedures while railing against the intrusions of "big government." and that's even before we get into the comments of folks like todd akin.</p>
<p>so yes, the war on women is a way of politically spinning a series of facts and events. but the facts and events themselves are undeniable, which is the main reason why the meme has been successful.</p>
<p><i>And the National Debt has remained EXACTLY the same for the the last 3 months....</i></p>
<p>believe it or not, that's substantial progress. any deficit at all would cause the debt to grow, no matter how small. the only way to shrink the debt is to create a budget surplus (like clinton did) and not piss it away (like bush did). easier said than done.</p>
<p>i'm first in line to criticize obama for things i think he's gotten wrong, but the federal budget is an area where he seems to genuinely be improving.</p>
<p>JL</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 08:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me start out with a plus...

Good call on the hypocrisy thing.  Frankly I am torn on the whole Hillary Movie/RNC Debate thingy...

I can see the points from both sides of the issue and they are all good points..

So, I am gonna have to punt..

But, as always, your perspective shows the hypocrisy on BOTH sides of the political spectrum..  Thereby showing once again how there is little difference between the Left and the Right...

&lt;I&gt;If that wasn&#039;t bad enough, the news that sexual assault cases in the military justice system are being dismissed because President Obama said he wanted such cases prosecuted was pretty shocking news as well.&lt;/I&gt;

Actually, that&#039;s not so shocking.

It&#039;s called &quot;Undue Command Influence&quot; and it&#039;s patently illegal in the US Military.

As hard as it may seem to be, Obama should have just kept his mouth shut..

I am somewhat disappointed not to see any mention of the Obama Rodeo Clown..  I have been holding my water til Friday, hoping to see your thoughts on it.

Do you think it&#039;s as ridiculous as I do???  The NAACP wants to have the DOJ investigate A CLOWN!!!???

The Democrats want ALL clowns to &lt;B&gt;go to sensitivity training!!!!????&lt;/B&gt;

Are you frakin&#039; KIDDING me!!!!?????

My gods, this is simply ridiculous!!  We have some real and pressing problems facing this country and the Left is up in arms about a frakin&#039; CLOWN!!???

Whew....  OK, got that outta my system...  :D

&lt;I&gt;They&#039;ve been doing their damnedest to drive women away from their party in the past few years, with the ongoing War On Women. &lt;/I&gt;

Again, I have to say how funny it is for the Party of Clinton and Filner to talk about the Right&#039;s alleged &quot;War On Women&quot;...  :D

It&#039;s not a &quot;war&quot; on anyone.  It&#039;s just spin... One could easily spin about the Democrats &quot;War On Newborn Babies&quot;....  

&lt;I&gt;The deficit keeps falling&lt;/I&gt;

And the National Debt has remained EXACTLY the same for the the last 3 months....

Something is rotten in Denmark...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me start out with a plus...</p>
<p>Good call on the hypocrisy thing.  Frankly I am torn on the whole Hillary Movie/RNC Debate thingy...</p>
<p>I can see the points from both sides of the issue and they are all good points..</p>
<p>So, I am gonna have to punt..</p>
<p>But, as always, your perspective shows the hypocrisy on BOTH sides of the political spectrum..  Thereby showing once again how there is little difference between the Left and the Right...</p>
<p><i>If that wasn't bad enough, the news that sexual assault cases in the military justice system are being dismissed because President Obama said he wanted such cases prosecuted was pretty shocking news as well.</i></p>
<p>Actually, that's not so shocking.</p>
<p>It's called "Undue Command Influence" and it's patently illegal in the US Military.</p>
<p>As hard as it may seem to be, Obama should have just kept his mouth shut..</p>
<p>I am somewhat disappointed not to see any mention of the Obama Rodeo Clown..  I have been holding my water til Friday, hoping to see your thoughts on it.</p>
<p>Do you think it's as ridiculous as I do???  The NAACP wants to have the DOJ investigate A CLOWN!!!???</p>
<p>The Democrats want ALL clowns to <b>go to sensitivity training!!!!????</b></p>
<p>Are you frakin' KIDDING me!!!!?????</p>
<p>My gods, this is simply ridiculous!!  We have some real and pressing problems facing this country and the Left is up in arms about a frakin' CLOWN!!???</p>
<p>Whew....  OK, got that outta my system...  :D</p>
<p><i>They've been doing their damnedest to drive women away from their party in the past few years, with the ongoing War On Women. </i></p>
<p>Again, I have to say how funny it is for the Party of Clinton and Filner to talk about the Right's alleged "War On Women"...  :D</p>
<p>It's not a "war" on anyone.  It's just spin... One could easily spin about the Democrats "War On Newborn Babies"....  </p>
<p><i>The deficit keeps falling</i></p>
<p>And the National Debt has remained EXACTLY the same for the the last 3 months....</p>
<p>Something is rotten in Denmark...</p>
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