Comments on: 50 Years Of Secrecy, Courtesy Of Max Baucus http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/ Reality-based political commentary Wed, 13 May 2026 04:47:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40940 Michale Sat, 03 Aug 2013 11:49:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40940 <I>Oh, I completely agree.. It's not a Right problem, a Left problem. It's a POLITICIAN problem.</I> Actually, when you get right down to, the American people are the problem. At least the ones who swear allegiance to a political Party... It's amazing what ya'all will let your Dem leaders get away with, in the name of Party loyalty... I mean, seriously.. NANCY PELOSI <B>**saves**</B> the NSA wiretapping program!?? And (relatively speaking) no one on the Left says "boo"???? If that doesn't show ya'all how far off the reservation ya'all have gone, NOTHING will... Michale Oh, I completely agree.. It's not a Right problem, a Left problem. It's a POLITICIAN problem.

Actually, when you get right down to, the American people are the problem. At least the ones who swear allegiance to a political Party...

It's amazing what ya'all will let your Dem leaders get away with, in the name of Party loyalty...

I mean, seriously.. NANCY PELOSI **saves** the NSA wiretapping program!??

And (relatively speaking) no one on the Left says "boo"????

If that doesn't show ya'all how far off the reservation ya'all have gone, NOTHING will...

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40933 Michale Sat, 03 Aug 2013 09:42:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40933 <I>OK, you've got to give me points for attacking the Democrat responsible. But, as you said, this is a bipartisan thing. So why would the media response be partisan?</I> You ALWAYS get points for that. It's nothing new... It's what I have come to expect.. :D <I>Think about it -- if this were truly only a Democratic problem (if, in your terms, the MSM ignored it in favor of Dems), then why wouldn't Fox and Rush be all over it? But they won't be, I guarantee it.</I> Oh, I completely agree.. It's not a Right problem, a Left problem. It's a POLITICIAN problem. That's the point that many on here just don't seem to get.. Politicians are the lowest form of life. Lower even than lawyers.. And, try as everyone here might to deny it, Democrats are just another form of politician. They are no better than a Republican politician... <I>So far, a perfect record. Never had a problem with home security. According to Michale (warning, cheap shot coming up), vis-a-vis Bush, post-9/11, that means that the "watchcat" has been doing a bang-up job.</I> OUCH!! .... and the ref takes a point away!! :D hehehehehehe Michale OK, you've got to give me points for attacking the Democrat responsible. But, as you said, this is a bipartisan thing. So why would the media response be partisan?

You ALWAYS get points for that. It's nothing new... It's what I have come to expect.. :D

Think about it -- if this were truly only a Democratic problem (if, in your terms, the MSM ignored it in favor of Dems), then why wouldn't Fox and Rush be all over it? But they won't be, I guarantee it.

Oh, I completely agree.. It's not a Right problem, a Left problem. It's a POLITICIAN problem.

That's the point that many on here just don't seem to get..

Politicians are the lowest form of life. Lower even than lawyers..

And, try as everyone here might to deny it, Democrats are just another form of politician. They are no better than a Republican politician...

So far, a perfect record. Never had a problem with home security. According to Michale (warning, cheap shot coming up), vis-a-vis Bush, post-9/11, that means that the "watchcat" has been doing a bang-up job.

OUCH!! .... and the ref takes a point away!! :D hehehehehehe

Michale

]]> By: Friday Talking Points [267] — Congress Slinks Out of Town « Democrats for Progress http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40929 Friday Talking Points [267] — Congress Slinks Out of Town « Democrats for Progress Sat, 03 Aug 2013 07:10:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40929 [...] of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week was none other than Max Baucus. I wrote about this earlier in the week in more detail (and although I did use the wore “whores” more than once, I refrained [...] [...] of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week was none other than Max Baucus. I wrote about this earlier in the week in more detail (and although I did use the wore “whores” more than once, I refrained [...]

]]> By: Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points — Congress Slinks Out Of Town | Political Ration http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40924 Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points — Congress Slinks Out Of Town | Political Ration Sat, 03 Aug 2013 05:31:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40924 [...] of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week was none other than Max Baucus. I wrote about this earlier in the week in more detail (and although I did use the wore “whores” more than once, I refrained [...] [...] of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week was none other than Max Baucus. I wrote about this earlier in the week in more detail (and although I did use the wore “whores” more than once, I refrained [...]

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]]> By: Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points — Congress Slinks Out Of Town | Both Sides Clash http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40920 Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points — Congress Slinks Out Of Town | Both Sides Clash Sat, 03 Aug 2013 03:12:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40920 [...] of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week was none other than Max Baucus. I wrote about this earlier in the week in more detail (and although I did use the wore “whores” more than once, I refrained [...] [...] of the Most Disappointing Democrat Of The Week was none other than Max Baucus. I wrote about this earlier in the week in more detail (and although I did use the wore “whores” more than once, I refrained [...]

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]]> By: ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points [267] -- Congress Slinks Out Of Town http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40909 ChrisWeigant.com » Friday Talking Points [267] -- Congress Slinks Out Of Town Sat, 03 Aug 2013 00:47:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40909 [...] 50 Years Of Secrecy, Courtesy Of Max Baucus [...] [...] 50 Years Of Secrecy, Courtesy Of Max Baucus [...]

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40896 Chris Weigant Fri, 02 Aug 2013 06:48:55 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40896 Michale - OK, you've got to give me points for attacking the Democrat responsible. But, as you said, this is a bipartisan thing. So why would the media response be partisan? Here's a wager for you -- I bet (how about 500 quatloos?) that BOTH the Right and the Left media will IGNORE this one, for the most part. Because, as we've been trying to teach you, the media's as bad as Congress -- when the corporate bigwigs call the shots, the politics of the situation simply doesn't matter. Think about it -- if this were truly only a Democratic problem (if, in your terms, the MSM ignored it in favor of Dems), then why wouldn't Fox and Rush be all over it? But they won't be, I guarantee it. As for both of you, whenever I go out, I yell to the cat (you can ask my wife for verification of this, as I'm not kidding -- home security is serious stuff, after all...): "Guard the house!" So far, a perfect record. Never had a problem with home security. According to Michale (warning, cheap shot coming up), vis-a-vis Bush, post-9/11, that means that the "watchcat" has been doing a bang-up job. Heh. Couldn't resist. -CW Michale -

OK, you've got to give me points for attacking the Democrat responsible. But, as you said, this is a bipartisan thing. So why would the media response be partisan?

Here's a wager for you -- I bet (how about 500 quatloos?) that BOTH the Right and the Left media will IGNORE this one, for the most part. Because, as we've been trying to teach you, the media's as bad as Congress -- when the corporate bigwigs call the shots, the politics of the situation simply doesn't matter.

Think about it -- if this were truly only a Democratic problem (if, in your terms, the MSM ignored it in favor of Dems), then why wouldn't Fox and Rush be all over it? But they won't be, I guarantee it.

As for both of you, whenever I go out, I yell to the cat (you can ask my wife for verification of this, as I'm not kidding -- home security is serious stuff, after all...): "Guard the house!"

So far, a perfect record. Never had a problem with home security. According to Michale (warning, cheap shot coming up), vis-a-vis Bush, post-9/11, that means that the "watchcat" has been doing a bang-up job.

Heh. Couldn't resist.

-CW

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40884 akadjian Fri, 02 Aug 2013 01:13:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40884 <i> Seems to me the "cat" issue would take care of the "feed" issue... :D </i> Hahahah ... they have their endearing moments. But there's definitely a reason they're not called 'man's best friend' :) Seems to me the "cat" issue would take care of the "feed" issue... :D

Hahahah ... they have their endearing moments. But there's definitely a reason they're not called 'man's best friend' :)

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40882 Michale Thu, 01 Aug 2013 21:05:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40882 <I>Too much to feed & walk and more importantly, my cat will never go for it :)</I> Seems to me the "cat" issue would take care of the "feed" issue... :D Sorry, couldn't resist.. I'm not much of a cat person.. :D The wife loves them though.. In our rural area, they take care of the snakes... Wife's not a big fan of snakes.. Too much to feed & walk and more importantly, my cat will never go for it :)

Seems to me the "cat" issue would take care of the "feed" issue... :D

Sorry, couldn't resist.. I'm not much of a cat person.. :D

The wife loves them though.. In our rural area, they take care of the snakes... Wife's not a big fan of snakes..

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40877 akadjian Thu, 01 Aug 2013 18:55:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40877 <i> Seriously, I am not a big fan of monitored systems. </i> That's the deal with this iSmartAlarm, it's self-monitored. There's an app on your iPhone which lets you monitor everything. It comes w/ a motion detector, a couple contact sensors for doors/windows, and a camera. Kind of like the do-it-yourself kit for dummies. Like me. Cost: ~$500. Anyways ... I just ordered so will keep you posted. The security companies get you with all the ongoing fees & 3-year contracts. I'd almost rather be robbed! :) <i> At home?? A 120 pound Rottweiler does the trick.. :D </i> Too much to feed & walk and more importantly, my cat will never go for it :) Thanks for the advice! -David p.s. What really grinds me is that I had the idea this week for a security system which could all be controlled by your iPhone. Researching this company, they beat me by a little less than a year. They got funded by crowdsourcing and just started shipping. Alas ... security's probably not my business Seriously, I am not a big fan of monitored systems.

That's the deal with this iSmartAlarm, it's self-monitored. There's an app on your iPhone which lets you monitor everything.

It comes w/ a motion detector, a couple contact sensors for doors/windows, and a camera.

Kind of like the do-it-yourself kit for dummies. Like me. Cost: ~$500.

Anyways ... I just ordered so will keep you posted. The security companies get you with all the ongoing fees & 3-year contracts. I'd almost rather be robbed! :)

At home?? A 120 pound Rottweiler does the trick.. :D

Too much to feed & walk and more importantly, my cat will never go for it :)

Thanks for the advice!

-David

p.s. What really grinds me is that I had the idea this week for a security system which could all be controlled by your iPhone. Researching this company, they beat me by a little less than a year. They got funded by crowdsourcing and just started shipping. Alas ... security's probably not my business

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40873 Michale Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:31:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40873 <I>Thoughts? Other recommendations for a home security system? I hate the thought of having to pay some company $400 a year to monitor my place. </I> My personal philosophy is that the minute you concede your security to a third party, you are no longer secure.. On the other hand, I am in a position to where I can monitor my home and shop security nearly on a 24/7 basis... In my shop, I have had 2 laptops stolen in the last 4 years.. Both subjects were video taped and apprehended. Property was recovered within days.. At home?? A 120 pound Rottweiler does the trick.. :D Seriously, I am not a big fan of monitored systems.. You can build your own system with however many cameras you need, running on a home workstation. Depending on the number of cameras will determine the cost.. For under $3K, you can set up a high tech 5 Camera system w/ 24/7 motion detection/scheduled recording system that will retain recordings for however long you specify it I even monitor my home and shop cameras when I am sitting in the middle of the Atlantic on a cruise ship guzzling a Blue Hawaiian... :D Technology these days makes it easy to have a multi-thousand $$$ system for a fraction of the cost... Thoughts? Other recommendations for a home security system?

I hate the thought of having to pay some company $400 a year to monitor my place.

My personal philosophy is that the minute you concede your security to a third party, you are no longer secure..

On the other hand, I am in a position to where I can monitor my home and shop security nearly on a 24/7 basis...

In my shop, I have had 2 laptops stolen in the last 4 years.. Both subjects were video taped and apprehended. Property was recovered within days..

At home?? A 120 pound Rottweiler does the trick.. :D

Seriously, I am not a big fan of monitored systems..

You can build your own system with however many cameras you need, running on a home workstation. Depending on the number of cameras will determine the cost.. For under $3K, you can set up a high tech 5 Camera system w/ 24/7 motion detection/scheduled recording system that will retain recordings for however long you specify it

I even monitor my home and shop cameras when I am sitting in the middle of the Atlantic on a cruise ship guzzling a Blue Hawaiian... :D

Technology these days makes it easy to have a multi-thousand $$$ system for a fraction of the cost...

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40872 akadjian Thu, 01 Aug 2013 17:19:34 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40872 BTW, quick security question, Michale. Have you ever seen this before? https://www.ismartalarm.com/ Thoughts? Other recommendations for a home security system? I hate the thought of having to pay some company $400 a year to monitor my place. -David BTW, quick security question, Michale. Have you ever seen this before?

https://www.ismartalarm.com/

Thoughts? Other recommendations for a home security system?

I hate the thought of having to pay some company $400 a year to monitor my place.

-David

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40871 akadjian Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:08:23 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40871 <i> But I am against ALL corruption, regardless of whether it is Democrat or Republican corruption. </i> Glad to have you on our side. -David But I am against ALL corruption, regardless of whether it is Democrat or Republican corruption.

Glad to have you on our side.

-David

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40868 Michale Thu, 01 Aug 2013 15:25:50 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40868 <I>For just a second, I almost thought you were against corruption in Congress.</I> I am... But I am against ALL corruption, regardless of whether it is Democrat or Republican corruption.. That makes me somewhat unique amongst Weigantians.. :D For just a second, I almost thought you were against corruption in Congress.

I am...

But I am against ALL corruption, regardless of whether it is Democrat or Republican corruption..

That makes me somewhat unique amongst Weigantians.. :D

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40865 akadjian Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:54:21 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40865 <i> The MSM simply has to protect the Democrats. </i> You mean the corporations? <i> lemme know how that hopey-changey stuff works out for ya.. :D </i> For just a second, I almost thought you were against corruption in Congress. Then you had to ruin it ... :) -David The MSM simply has to protect the Democrats.

You mean the corporations?

lemme know how that hopey-changey stuff works out for ya.. :D

For just a second, I almost thought you were against corruption in Congress.

Then you had to ruin it ... :)

-David

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40863 Michale Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:39:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40863 <I>Any bets as to how much press this gets in the "liberal media"? </I> None of it likely will make it to the MSM.. The MSM simply has to protect the Democrats.... <I>BTW- Hoping I'm wrong on this as would love to see it get coverage.</I> yea, lemme know how that hopey-changey stuff works out for ya.. :D Any bets as to how much press this gets in the "liberal media"?

None of it likely will make it to the MSM..

The MSM simply has to protect the Democrats....

BTW- Hoping I'm wrong on this as would love to see it get coverage.

yea, lemme know how that hopey-changey stuff works out for ya.. :D

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40861 akadjian Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:30:30 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40861 BTW- Hoping I'm wrong on this as would love to see it get coverage. BTW- Hoping I'm wrong on this as would love to see it get coverage.

]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40860 akadjian Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:24:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40860 <i> It's not the information itself which must remain under lock and key for half a century, it is which senator is supporting what massive corporate giveaway -- that's what has to remain secret. Given the average age of the Senate, this will mean that most of these senators will be long dead before the public is allowed to see which one of them is the biggest whore. </i> Any bets as to how much press this gets in the "liberal media"? -David It's not the information itself which must remain under lock and key for half a century, it is which senator is supporting what massive corporate giveaway -- that's what has to remain secret. Given the average age of the Senate, this will mean that most of these senators will be long dead before the public is allowed to see which one of them is the biggest whore.

Any bets as to how much press this gets in the "liberal media"?

-David

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/07/31/50-years-of-secrecy-courtesy-of-max-baucus/#comment-40850 Michale Thu, 01 Aug 2013 09:30:25 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7722#comment-40850 <I>Any member of Congress who has the tiniest doubt as to why the public only gives single-digit approval ratings to the way they do their job, this is Exhibit A.</I> It's also Exhibit A in the case to prove that there really isn't any difference between Democrats and Republicans.. The problem isn't the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. The problem is politicians who are greedy and self-serving who ignore the will of the people and whats best for the country in favor of personal advancement. And THAT problem knows no Party loyalty... Any member of Congress who has the tiniest doubt as to why the public only gives single-digit approval ratings to the way they do their job, this is Exhibit A.

It's also Exhibit A in the case to prove that there really isn't any difference between Democrats and Republicans..

The problem isn't the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

The problem is politicians who are greedy and self-serving who ignore the will of the people and whats best for the country in favor of personal advancement.

And THAT problem knows no Party loyalty...

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