Well, OK.. That *IS* a different kettle o fish.

But I think CW was talking about the use of the names being demeaning or offensive.. And the Seminole case I cited WAS a group of professional whiners saying that the use of "Seminole" was degrading and offensive..

Irregardless of all that, let's explore your avenue..

Apparently the Seminole have given tacit permission for FL State to use the name "Seminole". The statement from Seminole Chief Osceola would seem to back that up..

But, if we want to go down the "marketing" road, where does it end??

AFRICAN AMERICANS FOR OBAMA

Does that mean some black person in the US can sue the organization for using his (PC) race name in a political context??

Michale

i'm not talking about derogatory or offensive, i'm just saying that the seminole tribe have the right to get paid royalties by anyone using their name and image without their permission.

If you can point out any Native American group that AREN'T professional whiners that have a problem with the Washington Redskins, I'll consider their argument..

That happened down here in Florida. A bunch of professional whiners came down here to FL and started raising a stink about the Florida State Seminoles college teams. Was whining and moaning about how the name was derogatory and demeaning and claptrap like that.

Representatives of the Seminole tribe told the professional whiners to shut the frak up, that they were just fine with the name...

"Members of the Seminole Tribe do not consider it derogatory, demeaning and insulting"
-Max Osceola, Chief, Seminole Tribe

Like I said, some people exist SOLELY to find offense in something.

ANYTHING...

And, if they can't find anything offensive, they just make shit up...

I think people who look around for things to be offended by should just take a deep breath and employ a little common sense..

Of course, I am referring to people who make a living being offended...

No one here fits that category.... :D

Michale

You see what I mean?? You can't please EVERYONE so why bother trying??

No matter what you do, SOMEONE will always have a reason to bitch and whine...

Michale

"There can be no offense where none is taken."
-Sarek Of Vulcan

Some people go out of their way to LOOK for things to be offended by and hoping to profit from it..

To those, I would say, "Jeeeze, get a life dood!!"...

Michale

Will be interesting to see his approach because usually he's trying to sell legislation using language to pitch the ideas.

Here, it seems his challenge is a bit different, he has to defend a name.

I think the team could have better spent its money on a new brand and campaign. Imagine all the publicity they'd get from changing their name to something like the "Pigskins"

It's a shame they'd rather spend it defending themselves as "right"

-David

native americans already get fully subsidized college educations, so we'd have to find something else to spend the money on. however, the licensing idea is a good one. if sports franchises are going to continue to capitalize on the native american "brand," then they should pay back royalties for as long as they've been using those names without permission.