The bigger irony is that it's Democrats who really made 1984 a reality..

Ya simply HAVE to appreciate the irony, eh?? :D

Michale

It's already gone to her head. She already had big rims put on her Rascal scooter, you know. She's got the -- she's going all out. Now, as for how much tax she's going to have to pay on that $590 million, the IRS said it's too soon to tell 'cause they don't know whether she's a Republican or a Democrat. So it's going to be a while -- it's going to take a while to figure that out. Yeah."
-Jay Leno

"It's funny because it's true.."
-Homer Simpson

:D

Michale

Wait for it.... Wait for it..... Wait for it.....

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Nothing...

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Michale

I have been wracking my brain to come up with a solution to this dilemma...

Then I read this....

Dept. of Homeland Security: Laptops, Phones Can Be Searched Based on Hunches
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/05/dept-of-homeland-security-laptops-phones-can-be-searched-based-on-hunches/

... and it hit me.

The GRAND solution...

What's the biggest point of contention around here??

Well, as near as I can tell *my* position is that ya'all (with notable exceptions that know who they are) give Obama a pass on things that you would savage a Republican over because of the '-D' after Obama's name..

The fact that ya'all (previous caveat in place) deny this, despite the OVERWHELMING evidence that supports the conclusion is the biggest bone of contention...

As near as I can tell...

So, it seems to me the solution is clear...

Simply concede the point..

I know, I know. It sounds ridiculous.. "Just agree with me and all will be well".. Yea, it sounds totally bogus..

BUT.....

But come on people! It's not as if ya'all are really fooling anyone besides yourselves...

I can close my eyes, throw a dart and hit anyone of a dozen different instances where ya'all (caveat) would have savaged a GOP'er for the EXACT actions of Obama and his Administration.

TSA, DOJ, DEA, FBI, IRS.....

The list is ENDLESS of crap that you would not have tolerated under a GOP Administration that ya'all utter nary a peep with a DEM Administration..

Think of the upside..

I would have actually NO ARGUMENT whatsoever to make!!

It would be like, "Ya'all are so in the bag for Obama!!!"

And ya'all would be like, "Yea we are!!!"

And I would be like, "Yea and!!??? well, awww right!!" and I would have absolutely NOTHING to comment about!

I am just sayin.... If ya'all really want to shut me up... Just concede what I already know to be true...

Obama is your guy and ya'all won't say anything against him...

Again, standard caveats apply...

I'm just sayin'....

Michale

Ooops.. Wrong timeline.. :D

My bust...

Michale

What's that?? :D

It's not my fault that no one wants to talk when Obama is taking lumps.. :D

Seriously, yea, I know..

But it was no different around here during the Bush years. Remember Abu Ghraib?? The spewage was fast and furious.

funny, just when i mention ACORN, it shows up in the news again...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/defund-acorn_n_3384060.html

You have the pulse of HuffPo..

Not sure if that's a good thing or not.. :D

Michale

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/04/defund-acorn_n_3384060.html

There's yer felony, people..

There's your crime...

Can ANYONE honestly say that nothing improper was done here???

SERIOUSLY!???

Michale

And the hits just keep on coming......

Michale

Mr. John Eastman
Chairman, National Organization for Marriage

Ms. Sue Martinek
Coalition for Life of Iowa

A large cross section of conservative groups, not just Tea Party groups..

Democrats were told they could invite Liberal/Progressive groups that were also targeted..

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Not a one could be found...

Over 500 conservative were targeted by the IRS..

Not ONE SINGLE Liberal/Progressive group was targeted..

NOT.... ONE.... SINGLE.... GROUP

The evidence is clear. The evidence is conclusive...

Michale

But there is plenty of circumstantial evidence to indicate that he did.

That evidence is bolstered by the fact that there has been half a dozen bullshit stories coming out of the White House, each one proven completely and utterly false...

Michale

IRS victims testify as new agency scandal emerges
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130604/DA6MPCKO0.html

I think I might have a comment or two about this today.. :D

Seems like these scandals have dampened the spirit of those who think Obama walks on water.. :D

OK, OK, OK... I promised to reign in my gloating...

:D

Michale

The scrutiny wasn't hidden or secret.

Oh bullshit..

Then why did Obama express surprise and anger when it was exposed??

Why did this activity have to be "reported" by a planted question in a Tax Law Seminar??

Why did IRS officials LIE to Congress about this VERY activity???

Why are *Democrats* expressing shock and dismay and calling these illegal targetings "un american"..

If this was not done in secret, if it was fully disclosed and announced, why is all of the afore happening??

If you are going to just make stuff up, we're going to get no where.. :D

I am in full agreement. Fundraising is fine. Doing sso for a political purpose is where the problem comes.

Not according to IRS regs. Fundraising and picketing are perfectly acceptable within certain guidelines.. And those conservative groups that were targeted fell within those guidelines..

Media Matters has never held a political convention, has never run a specific candidate, and has never held a political rally.

Again, bullshit... Media Matters is another 501 group that is neck deep in supporting liberal candidates and liberal causes. They are the Tea Party of the Left.. Just not nearly as effective..

I am unfamiliar with "Black Folks for Obama". I'd be glad to send them a few bucks but I would object to their receiving tax-exempt status.

Apparently, Obama's IRS doesn't have a problem with B.A.F.O. being tax exempt..

Why is that??

Here are some other Leftist groups, including an OCCUPY group that got tax exempt status likity split while conservative groups were targeted...

Americans United for Change enjoys 501(c)4 tax-exempt status. The organization exists, according to its own website, “to amplify the progressive message--to contribute to a grass roots groundswell for progressive policies.
scribd.com/doc/145523984/Americans-United-for-Change

The Ruckus Society is part of the Occupy Movement and is a 501(c)3 funded by George Soros.
According to it's website:
The Brass Liberation Orchestra accompanied a second round of the “I Will Survive…Capitalism” flashmob before leading the crowd of over 1,000 people onto the Bank of America, and deployed a giant balloon banner with our friends at [Rainforest Action Network] reading “Defend Human Dignity: Challenge Corporate Power”...The day of course culminated in the truly mass marches to the Port of Oakland to shut down all operations at the Ports for the night. Some reports say 50,000 people marched and danced the three miles to the ports from Camp, and it was truly an unforgettable experience, marching in a sea of thousands at sunset.
scribd.com/doc/145524752/Ruckus

Women’s Action for New Directions (WAND) is another leftist organization funded by George Soros that engages in activity designed to transform politics and America. It is another 501(c)4 tax-exempt group. The organization also boasts a “Students Action Network for New Directions” that encourages leftist students “to become politically active, to vote, and to network with other WAND members.”
scribd.com/doc/145525273/Wand

The New World Foundation, like so many others, uses the money from industrialists who built America to help reduce America. Cyrus McCormick’s daughter formed the NWF to help transform the world, starting with America. The foundation enjoys 501(c)3 tax exempt status and exists, according to its IRS Form 990, to support “community activists across America and around the world.”

The IRS Form 990 also states that the NWF seek to “build stronger alliances for social justice, environmental justice...while encouraging democratic participation to achieve real and lasting [sic].” The form details the mission of “mobilizing of the least enfranchised in working class and people of color communities.”
In 2010, NWF spent over $15 million. It funnels money to a variety of activist leftist groups like the Coal River Mountain Watch, Colorado Progressive Action and National Peoples Action.
scribd.com/doc/145525602/New-World-Foundation

Fierce is a New York-based organization that employs the Saul Alinsky organizing model toward activist gay issues. Its website unapologetically proclaims that it is “building the leadership and power of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBTQ) youth of color,” and “We develop politically conscious leaders.”
Looking toward the future, as always, “FIERCE is dedicated to cultivating the next generation of social justice movement leaders who are dedicated to ending all forms of oppression.” This unapologetic political mission is also included in the IRS Form 990 submitted by Fierce, so it should not surprise the IRS.
Fierce also provides a chart showing its organizing model is dedicated first to “Build our Power,” then “Exercise our Power,” and finally “Sustain our Power.”
Fierce! has 501(c)3 status, making contributions to the overtly political organization tax deductible. Last tax year it spent $529,713 on stipends for activists, travel and other expenses.
scribd.com/doc/145526090/FIerce

The Black Alliance for Just Immigration enjoys 501(c)3 status. The organization “advocates for administrative changes to visa, detention and deportation regulations” according to the IRS Form 990 it filed with the IRS.
Executive Director Gerald Lenoir is quoted as saying that the IRS has never questioned the tax status of the organization.
scribd.com/doc/145526691/Black-Alliance-for-Just

scribd.com/doc/145527308/Voto-Latino

And so on and so on and so on...

All those Leftist/Liberal/Progressive groups are tax exempt and they do everything that the conservative groups that were targeted does..

So, why didn't their fundraising and cause/candidate supporting prevent THEM from having their tax-exempt status withheld??

No matter how ya'all try to spin it, the actions of the IRS were wrong, illegal and un-american..

The facts are clear...

And, if I am not mistaken, FACTS are what we are all about here, right??

Lenin said the Capitalist will sell you the rope with which you intend to hang him. The Tea Party goes further. They want President Obama to pay for the rope.

The conservative groups targeted are NO DIFFERENT from the Leftist groups that enjoy unquestioned tax-exempt status..

The ONLY difference is their political ideology..

The groups that agree with Obama's ideology get the tax-exempt status.

The groups that disagree with Obama's ideology do not..

It's THAT simple..

"These are the facts of the case. And they are undisputed."
-Captain Jack Ross, A FEW GOOD MEN

Michale

Our ISP had a massive meltdown this afternoon, but we should be back up and running again.

Apologies for the interruption in service. Today's column will be up shortly...

-CW

# varied. The scrutiny wasn't hidden or secret.

#13

"I am again, constrained to point out that, according to IRS regs, fund raising is not illegal."

I am in full agreement. Fundraising is fine. Doing sso for a political purpose is where the problem comes.

Media Matters has never held a political convention, has never run a specific candidate, and has never held a political rally. The Tea party has done each.

I am unfamiliar with "Black Folks for Obama". I'd be glad to send them a few bucks but I would object to their receiving tax-exempt status.

No one should ask the community at large to subsidize their political contributions.

Lenin said the Capitalist will sell you the rope with which you intend to hang him. The Tea Party goes further. They want President Obama to pay for the rope.

For example???

Groups that are "apolitical" and in a battleground state, are filing for exempt status under 501(c)(4) and are a threat to a re-election...

I can't think of a one...

But I really don't follow politics all that much.. :D

But I think the big point remains.

Why was done (attempted) in total and complete secret with (somewhat) plausible deniability...

I refer to my A FEW GOOD MEN quote..

If it was totally logical, rational and justified, why did it have to be done in secret..

Michale

Were those groups in Ohio???

The better question still remains.. If everything was perfectly legal, legitimate and apolitical, WHY do it in secret?

Why not ANNOUNCE the policy???

Michale

i'll pose an alternate question. if our premise is that the targeting was done to win an election, why wasn't it done to the biggest groups with the most money? there are plenty of allegedly apolitical conservative groups to choose from, why only the anti-establishment ones?

~joshua

Exactly, Exactly, Exactly. Because those groups told the IRS they were not trying to raise funds for the election. They were pretending to be "social welfare" organizations & non-political. They were applying for tax-exempt status at the time you, so accurately, state they were raising funds for a political purpose.

I am again, constrained to point out that, according to IRS regs, fund raising is not illegal.

Basically your argument is based on the faulty and unsupported conclusion that ONLY Tea Party 501 groups are involved in fund raising and Leftist 501 groups are as pure as the driven snow and are above reproach and suspicion.

And THAT is the EPITOME of a Right v Left issue...

Where was the scrutiny for BLACK AMERICANS FOR OBAMA and MEDIA MATTERS and groups like that??

Michale

"Why the two orders, Colonel!? If you gave an order that Santiago wasn't to be touched and your orders are always followed, why would Santiago be in any danger? Why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base?"
-Tom Cruise, A FEW GOOD MEN

:D

Michale

Ya'all are saying that Tea Party groups are political and that targeting them for investigations is prudent and logical..

But there is one simple point that totally negates that theory..

Why do it in secret?

If it is prudent and logical to target Tea Party groups that (everyone knows!!!) flout fund raising laws and the evidence that supports this conclusion is so over-whelmingly obvious, why not announce:

"THIS is what we are doing and THIS is why we are doing it!! So shut the f*ck up!!"

If the targeting is so above board, logical and LEGAL and so *NOT* a Right v Left thing, why hide it???

I think we ALL know the answer to that..

Because it WAS political, it WAS to influence an election... Why else would the majority of the targeting be in the critical MUST WIN battleground state of Ohio??

Do I need to go back to "chains of evidence" and how investigators approach criminal investigations?? :D

WHO has motive, WHO benefits....

The evidence in this crime is clear and conclusive..

Unless you want to make the case that 90+ (and growing) people in the IRS had their cat kicked by Tea Party members, the ONLY logical reason to target Tea Party groups would be to limit their fund raising.

And the ONLY beneficiaries of such targeting were the Obama Administration...

Michale

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/report-some-wh-want-holder-resign-viewed-politically-maladroit_732175.html

Michale

http://www.justiceonline.org/press-coverage/unaware-of-tsarnaev-warnings.html

I think you can make a case for that..

So, in other words, the Obama Administration dropped the ball... :D

You KNEW I would not be able to resist going there, right?? :D

Michale

http://www.justiceonline.org/press-coverage/unaware-of-tsarnaev-warnings.html

those were the days...

Well said... :D

Michale

jim graves as most disappointing??? weak! he accomplished his mission and is ending his political aspirations; how is that anything other than admirable? did you read the news this week on the FOIA request vis-a-vis the occupy crackdowns? there's so much to be disappointed with, why pick on jim graves?

~joshua

Jean Stapleton, best known for playing Edith Bunker in 'All in the Family,' dies at 90
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/06/01/all-in-family-jean-stapleton-dies-at-0/

Edith Bunker has stifled herself for the last time...

She will be missed...

Michale

Yea, but Obama's plan saves students a whopping $0.25 a day!!

Whoaaa!!! A student can make a phone call with that, eh! :D

Michale

Feds suggest anti-Muslim speech can be 'punished'...
'Internet postings subject to prosecutions'...
http://www.tullahomanews.com/?p=15360

Did you know that you could be charged with a felony by the federal government for posting online about how bad Islam is??

Welcome to AMERIKA, courtesy of Emperor Barack The First and his court of the Looney Left....

:^/

Michale

Why do I feel... um.... er.... "targeted"... :D

Holder has been busy this week holding off-the-record meetings with the press about how the Justice Department can be more transparent about upholding the First Amendment's freedom of the press.

Meant to ask ya when ya discussed how your invite to that shindig got lost in the mail...

Would you attend that meeting, knowing it would be off the record and you could ONLY report about it what Holder SAID you could report about it??

Washington Post: The Justice Department has allowed us to say AG Holder supports press freedom
http://washingtonexaminer.com/washington-post-the-justice-department-has-allowed-us-to-say-ag-holder-supports-press-freedom/article/2530898

You simply CAN'T make this stuff up..

I am betting absolutely NO ONE from the Left will bat an eye to this. 'Cept you and me, of course. :D

Barack Obama appeared in an boosterism ad for the Jersey shore this week (it's hard to call it anything else, really), and played boardwalk arcade games with New Jersey's governor, Chris Christie.

It was "Bowling-Gate" all over again!! :D

See, Republicans? Not only will you be welcomed, you'll actually get awards for making the trek across the aisle! Step right up, there's room for everyone!

Can you say, "Arlen Specter"??? :D

chorus of anti-immigration on the Right,

Sorry, there IS no "anti-immigration" from the Right..

What's coming from the Right (AND the center) is anti-ILLEGAL-immigration)

Of course the Left is all for illegal immigrants. Or should I say, "undocumented Democrats"....

"Th-th-th-THAT'S ALL FOLKS"
-Porky Pig

:D

Michale