Comments on: The Boy Scout's Gordian Knot http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/ Reality-based political commentary Sat, 04 Apr 2026 02:58:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37721 Michale Mon, 27 May 2013 10:07:42 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37721 <I>just because homophobes need to become more tolerant of gays, does not mean gays need to become more tolerant of homophobes.</I> I submit to you that THAT is *exactly* what it means... How can one demand tolerance from others if he/she is not willing to be tolerant themselves?? It's hypocritis extremeus... As I am fond of saying.. If one wants respect then one must learn to be respectful. If one wants tolerance than one must learn to be tolerant.. Michale just because homophobes need to become more tolerant of gays, does not mean gays need to become more tolerant of homophobes.

I submit to you that THAT is *exactly* what it means...

How can one demand tolerance from others if he/she is not willing to be tolerant themselves??

It's hypocritis extremeus...

As I am fond of saying..

If one wants respect then one must learn to be respectful.

If one wants tolerance than one must learn to be tolerant..

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37698 Michale Sun, 26 May 2013 19:10:08 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37698 <I> equal rights does not mean everyone is equally right.</I> That's a helluva profound statement, Joshua.. :D Did you make that up?? :D Michale equal rights does not mean everyone is equally right.

That's a helluva profound statement, Joshua.. :D

Did you make that up?? :D

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37691 Michale Sun, 26 May 2013 15:50:46 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37691 <I> just because homophobes need to become more tolerant of gays, does not mean gays need to become more tolerant of homophobes. black people don't need to become more tolerant of racists. equal rights does not mean everyone is equally right.</I> If a person has a moral issue with the gay lifestyle, that person has the right to feel that way.. I think what you are trying to say is that they don't have a right to actively discriminate based on that moral objection. In that, you would be correct. However, as Americans they have EVERY RIGHT to feel as they do.. Which is my biggest beef with the gay activists. They are trying to legislate acceptance.. And that is as un-American as the IRS targeting groups based on their political ideology.. Michale just because homophobes need to become more tolerant of gays, does not mean gays need to become more tolerant of homophobes. black people don't need to become more tolerant of racists. equal rights does not mean everyone is equally right.

If a person has a moral issue with the gay lifestyle, that person has the right to feel that way..

I think what you are trying to say is that they don't have a right to actively discriminate based on that moral objection.

In that, you would be correct.

However, as Americans they have EVERY RIGHT to feel as they do..

Which is my biggest beef with the gay activists.

They are trying to legislate acceptance..

And that is as un-American as the IRS targeting groups based on their political ideology..

Michale

]]> By: nypoet22 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37690 nypoet22 Sun, 26 May 2013 14:38:18 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37690 <i>My only point is that "tolerance" is a two-way street...</i> not necessarily. just because homophobes need to become more tolerant of gays, does not mean gays need to become more tolerant of homophobes. black people don't need to become more tolerant of racists. equal rights does not mean everyone is equally right. My only point is that "tolerance" is a two-way street...

not necessarily. just because homophobes need to become more tolerant of gays, does not mean gays need to become more tolerant of homophobes. black people don't need to become more tolerant of racists. equal rights does not mean everyone is equally right.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37684 Michale Sun, 26 May 2013 10:16:57 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37684 db, <I> There is still a deal of discrimination against gay folks & the BSA (rightly) don't want to deal with the problems openly gay Scout Leaders wold bring.</I> Don't me wrong. I agree with you.. We do have to acknowledge the reality of the here and now.. My only point is that "tolerance" is a two-way street... Or at least, it SHOULD be... Michale db,

There is still a deal of discrimination against gay folks & the BSA (rightly) don't want to deal with the problems openly gay Scout Leaders wold bring.

Don't me wrong. I agree with you.. We do have to acknowledge the reality of the here and now..

My only point is that "tolerance" is a two-way street...

Or at least, it SHOULD be...

Michale

]]> By: db http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37670 db Sun, 26 May 2013 00:21:43 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37670 Michale, "And, in America parents (and everyone else) have the RIGHT to be "less understanding"..." No, but only a fool ignores reality. There is still a deal of discrimination against gay folks & the BSA (rightly) don't want to deal with the problems openly gay Scout Leaders wold bring. Michale,

"And, in America parents (and everyone else) have the RIGHT to be "less understanding"..."

No, but only a fool ignores reality. There is still a deal of discrimination against gay folks & the BSA (rightly) don't want to deal with the problems openly gay Scout Leaders wold bring.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37617 Michale Fri, 24 May 2013 20:01:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37617 <I> The adult discrimination comes from the leadership position adults hold & the potential blow back from less understanding parents.</I> And, in America parents (and everyone else) have the RIGHT to be "less understanding"... No??? Michale The adult discrimination comes from the leadership position adults hold & the potential blow back from less understanding parents.

And, in America parents (and everyone else) have the RIGHT to be "less understanding"...

No???

Michale

]]> By: db http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/05/23/the-boy-scouts-gordian-knot/#comment-37587 db Fri, 24 May 2013 11:08:01 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7414#comment-37587 Y'know CW, That whole, "Slash the whole thing to bits." really doesn't work when you're talking about Solomon & the baby. I'm inclined to think the BSA have made the best possible choice at this time. The adult discrimination comes from the leadership position adults hold & the potential blow back from less understanding parents. Y'know CW,

That whole, "Slash the whole thing to bits." really doesn't work when you're talking about Solomon & the baby.

I'm inclined to think the BSA have made the best possible choice at this time. The adult discrimination comes from the leadership position adults hold & the potential blow back from less understanding parents.

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