Comments on: They Deserve An Up-Or-Down Vote http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/ Reality-based political commentary Thu, 30 Apr 2026 02:50:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points — Ding Dong « News Headlines http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35179 Chris Weigant: Friday Talking Points — Ding Dong « News Headlines Sat, 13 Apr 2013 15:01:20 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35179 [...] wrote a whole column on this talking point earlier in the week. President Obama has done a great job of framing this [...] [...] wrote a whole column on this talking point earlier in the week. President Obama has done a great job of framing this [...]

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]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35137 Michale Fri, 12 Apr 2013 20:13:45 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35137 Ya'all really need to think things thru and quit reacting emotionally.... If 15 million illegal immigrants are given amnesty and dumped into the job pool, WHO do you think is going to be hurt the most??? http://www.usccr.gov/calendar/trnscrpt/040408.pdf The wisdom of Smokey The Bear is especially apropos... <B>"THINK before you strike...."</B> -Smokey The Bear Michale Ya'all really need to think things thru and quit reacting emotionally....

If 15 million illegal immigrants are given amnesty and dumped into the job pool, WHO do you think is going to be hurt the most???

http://www.usccr.gov/calendar/trnscrpt/040408.pdf

The wisdom of Smokey The Bear is especially apropos...

"THINK before you strike...."
-Smokey The Bear

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35133 Michale Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:28:56 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35133 <I>Michale you're an intelligent enough to know that most of the noise about "illegal" immigration is purely to incite a vast ignorant and bigoted bloc of voters,to pretend otherwise is to agree with the aforementioned bigots.</I> Just because they are bigots, that doesn't make them wrong about everything. Just most things.. :D The simple fact is, ILLEGAL immigrants are a drain on our limited resources. They are responsible for THOUSANDS, if not HUNDREDS of thousands of violent crimes.. WHY is wanting people to obey the LAW a bad thing around here??? <I> The fact is this country needs intelligent and educated workers,just for the tax base alone.</I> We are not talking about intelligent educated workers.. We are talking about illegal immigrants who break the law, commit horrible violent crimes and are the root cause of untold human suffering.. <I>Yes we all hate taxes,but other than the vast MIC,taxes go to improving everyone's lives.</I> MY problem is they go to improving people's lives who have absolutely NO CLAIM to such improvement... If you truly feel as you do, then why don't you invite a couple dozen illegals to live with you, eat your food, run up your bills, cause damage and violence to your home and family... I mean, to be fair, that is EXACTLY what you are asking other Americans to do... Why not show us the way??? Show those neanderthal bigots how compassion REALLY works.. :D Michale Michale you're an intelligent enough to know that most of the noise about "illegal" immigration is purely to incite a vast ignorant and bigoted bloc of voters,to pretend otherwise is to agree with the aforementioned bigots.

Just because they are bigots, that doesn't make them wrong about everything. Just most things.. :D

The simple fact is, ILLEGAL immigrants are a drain on our limited resources. They are responsible for THOUSANDS, if not HUNDREDS of thousands of violent crimes..

WHY is wanting people to obey the LAW a bad thing around here???

The fact is this country needs intelligent and educated workers,just for the tax base alone.

We are not talking about intelligent educated workers..

We are talking about illegal immigrants who break the law, commit horrible violent crimes and are the root cause of untold human suffering..

Yes we all hate taxes,but other than the vast MIC,taxes go to improving everyone's lives.

MY problem is they go to improving people's lives who have absolutely NO CLAIM to such improvement...

If you truly feel as you do, then why don't you invite a couple dozen illegals to live with you, eat your food, run up your bills, cause damage and violence to your home and family...

I mean, to be fair, that is EXACTLY what you are asking other Americans to do...

Why not show us the way??? Show those neanderthal bigots how compassion REALLY works.. :D

Michale

]]> By: Americulchie http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35126 Americulchie Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:02:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35126 Michale you're an intelligent enough to know that most of the noise about "illegal" immigration is purely to incite a vast ignorant and bigoted bloc of voters,to pretend otherwise is to agree with the aforementioned bigots. The fact is this country needs intelligent and educated workers,just for the tax base alone.Yes we all hate taxes,but other than the vast MIC,taxes go to improving everyone's lives. Michale you're an intelligent enough to know that most of the noise about "illegal" immigration is purely to incite a vast ignorant and bigoted bloc of voters,to pretend otherwise is to agree with the aforementioned bigots. The fact is this country needs intelligent and educated workers,just for the tax base alone.Yes we all hate taxes,but other than the vast MIC,taxes go to improving everyone's lives.

]]> By: michty6 http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35125 michty6 Fri, 12 Apr 2013 17:53:00 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35125 http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/shoes.jpg?w=468 http://bobbiblogger.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/shoes.jpg?w=468

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35122 Michale Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:52:33 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35122 <I>,so there will never be this Know Nothing love of immigrant bashing.</I> There is absolutely NO immigrant bashing whatsoever.. The bashing is against ILLEGAL immigrants.. Ya know.. Criminals... Michale..... ,so there will never be this Know Nothing love of immigrant bashing.

There is absolutely NO immigrant bashing whatsoever..

The bashing is against ILLEGAL immigrants.. Ya know.. Criminals...

Michale.....

]]> By: Americulchie http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35116 Americulchie Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:05:28 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35116 Michale it is my position that immigration is one of the keys to a sustainable vibrant economy,ever since the founding of this country there has been opposition to immigration and very dark forces are behind that opposition,as I come from the first ethnic group to suffer from attacks by ignorant hateful discrimination,"No Irish need apply",I find in good conscience I must oppose such forces now,if there some path for "illegal" immigrants to a full citizenship;because there need not be a "one size fits all",it would lessen the grip of dark forces in this great land. Michale it is my position that immigration is one of the keys to a sustainable vibrant economy,ever since the founding of this country there has been opposition to immigration and very dark forces are behind that opposition,as I come from the first ethnic group to suffer from attacks by ignorant hateful discrimination,"No Irish need apply",I find in good conscience I must oppose such forces now,if there some path for "illegal" immigrants to a full citizenship;because there need not be a "one size fits all",it would lessen the grip of dark forces in this great land.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35107 Michale Fri, 12 Apr 2013 11:05:24 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35107 <I>You've been listening to Rubio too much. Wait until there's a bill (if one ever happens), and then we'll see who is afraid of a debate on immigration. (hint: it'll be the Republican House....).</I> Actually, I have been listening to Leahy, not Rubio.. Leahy wasn't actually going to schedule ANY debate.. He was just going to ramrod the legislation thru. I guess because it worked so well with ObamaCare... :^/ Americulchie, <I>I myself believe there ought to be some sort of permanent amnesty</I> Why?? Michale You've been listening to Rubio too much. Wait until there's a bill (if one ever happens), and then we'll see who is afraid of a debate on immigration. (hint: it'll be the Republican House....).

Actually, I have been listening to Leahy, not Rubio..

Leahy wasn't actually going to schedule ANY debate.. He was just going to ramrod the legislation thru. I guess because it worked so well with ObamaCare... :^/

Americulchie,

I myself believe there ought to be some sort of permanent amnesty

Why??

Michale

]]> By: Americulchie http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35090 Americulchie Fri, 12 Apr 2013 03:33:13 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35090 The simple truth is this legislation deserves a vote full stop.More and more though I might be disappointed with our Mr.O.,his judicious use of his brand of political judo leaves me open mouthed in appreciation. I leave a little gem for our Michale,I myself can't wait till we see where these bad actors in the Congress go with immigration reform,I myself believe there ought to be some sort of permanent amnesty,so there will never be this Know Nothing love of immigrant bashing. The simple truth is this legislation deserves a vote full stop.More and more though I might be disappointed with our Mr.O.,his judicious use of his brand of political judo leaves me open mouthed in appreciation.

I leave a little gem for our Michale,I myself can't wait till we see where these bad actors in the Congress go with immigration reform,I myself believe there ought to be some sort of permanent amnesty,so there will never be this Know Nothing love of immigrant bashing.

]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35078 Chris Weigant Thu, 11 Apr 2013 23:53:48 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35078 Hawk Owl - Thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I had to hold back that last bit for oomph at the end... heh... Michale - You've been listening to Rubio too much. Wait until there's a bill (if one ever happens), and then we'll see who is afraid of a debate on immigration. (hint: it'll be the Republican House....). Democrats want immigration reform. Smart Republicans know that they absolutely NEED immigration reform. But then, they don't all fall into that category, so a safe bet is that the fur is going to fly on the Republican side... -CW Hawk Owl -

Thanks for the kind words!

Yeah, I had to hold back that last bit for oomph at the end... heh...

Michale -

You've been listening to Rubio too much. Wait until there's a bill (if one ever happens), and then we'll see who is afraid of a debate on immigration. (hint: it'll be the Republican House....).

Democrats want immigration reform. Smart Republicans know that they absolutely NEED immigration reform. But then, they don't all fall into that category, so a safe bet is that the fur is going to fly on the Republican side...

-CW

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35061 Michale Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:58:53 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35061 <B>First AND ONLY Hearing On Immigration Set</B> http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17689511-leahy-hearing-on-comprehensive-immigration-reform-set-for-april-17?lite What are Democrats afraid of??? Why not fully debate the issue??? <B>Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a leading opponent of the reform effort, said in a statement that “to acquiesce to such a process would be to accept the Majority’s plan to rush through this massive legislation before the American people know what’s in it.” </B> Yea, cuz that worked SO WELL with ObamaCare... :^/ Michale First AND ONLY Hearing On Immigration Set
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17689511-leahy-hearing-on-comprehensive-immigration-reform-set-for-april-17?lite

What are Democrats afraid of???

Why not fully debate the issue???

Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a leading opponent of the reform effort, said in a statement that “to acquiesce to such a process would be to accept the Majority’s plan to rush through this massive legislation before the American people know what’s in it.”

Yea, cuz that worked SO WELL with ObamaCare... :^/

Michale

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35060 Michale Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:51:39 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35060 <I> On gun control legislation, Obama chose his rhetoric carefully, starting with his State Of The Union speech. </I> You mean, he chose his felgercarp carefully.. Obama's anti-gun arguments are so fraught with complete and utter lies, it's amazing that the gods haven't struck him down.. As with your other arguments against the GOP and their filibustering, I simply point out that they are performing the duties of the minority with unequivocal competence.. If Democrats had this level of competence, you can bet they would be filibustering just as much as the GOP does... <I>Ask the simple questions: "What are you afraid of? Why not have the debate America deserves on the issue?"</I> I am also constrained to point out that, when it comes to Immigration, it's the Democrats who are "afraid" to have a debate on the issue. They are attempting to ram-rod Immigration legislation thru w/o ANY debate whatsoever and it's REPUBLICANS who are saying, "Whoaaa now. Let's slow down and DEBATE this issue..." Once again it's apparent that, like "compromise", Democrats want "debate" ONLY when it's to their political advantage. When debate hurts their political agenda, then they can't throw "debate" under the bus fast enough.. There's a word for that... <B>Hypocrisy</B> As far as "debating" gun control?? You simply can't HAVE a debate when on side is emotionally hysterical and wouldn't know a FACT if it came up and Gibbs-Slapped them up side the head. Michale On gun control legislation, Obama chose his rhetoric carefully, starting with his State Of The Union speech.

You mean, he chose his felgercarp carefully.. Obama's anti-gun arguments are so fraught with complete and utter lies, it's amazing that the gods haven't struck him down..

As with your other arguments against the GOP and their filibustering, I simply point out that they are performing the duties of the minority with unequivocal competence..

If Democrats had this level of competence, you can bet they would be filibustering just as much as the GOP does...

Ask the simple questions: "What are you afraid of? Why not have the debate America deserves on the issue?"

I am also constrained to point out that, when it comes to Immigration, it's the Democrats who are "afraid" to have a debate on the issue.

They are attempting to ram-rod Immigration legislation thru w/o ANY debate whatsoever and it's REPUBLICANS who are saying, "Whoaaa now. Let's slow down and DEBATE this issue..."

Once again it's apparent that, like "compromise", Democrats want "debate" ONLY when it's to their political advantage. When debate hurts their political agenda, then they can't throw "debate" under the bus fast enough..

There's a word for that...

Hypocrisy

As far as "debating" gun control??

You simply can't HAVE a debate when on side is emotionally hysterical and wouldn't know a FACT if it came up and Gibbs-Slapped them up side the head.

Michale

]]> By: Hawk Owl http://www.chrisweigant.com/2013/04/10/they-deserve-an-up-or-down-vote/#comment-35055 Hawk Owl Thu, 11 Apr 2013 03:00:28 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=7203#comment-35055 A pleasure to read - - as a long-time reader it reminded me of how you often find an angle which is both "new" and down-to-earth common-sense. If this is your metier, then the last sentence adds originality, illustrating what you do best, & exemplifies why I enjoy reading your "reality-based commentary" ~ ~ just as it says in the head-note. A pleasure to read - - as a long-time reader it reminded me of how you often find an angle which is both "new" and down-to-earth common-sense. If this is your metier, then the last sentence adds originality, illustrating what you do best, & exemplifies why I enjoy reading your "reality-based commentary" ~ ~ just as it says in the head-note.

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