Yea yea yea...

It's been a nightmare so far, eh?? :D

Michale

Lololololol not in the slightest. You need to stop reading far right lunatic nut job news sites.

What is for sure is that the sequester will cost jobs. How much is at the moment just an estimate (some as high as 700k). Since the US added around 2m jobs last year this is quite a big chunk...

And yet, what was it that Paul was filibustering against??

Drone attacks on US citizens on US soil...

Apparently, everyone here is in 100% agreement with me and on board with that.. :D

Kewl... :D Nice to have my position validated... :D

Anyway the Obama argument is quite correct. The quickest way to get out of a recession AND decrease your debt is to create jobs. Anything which does otherwise will make the recovery worse and the debt longer...

And yet, Obama has done shit to CREATE jobs and has worked against businesses to PREVENT the creation of jobs...

Michale

I find it ironic that it would be a Republican and not a Democrat that would pull such a stunt... :D

Michale

Ya think?? :D

You probably won't be mocking them IF America slips into recession later in the year though. And they will be whipping out a big can of 'I told you so' while Republicans try to blame Obama (again) for the Sequester...

Probably..

But the reverse is also true..

If Obama's Sequester turns out to be a really good thing for the country, you KNOW that Obama and the Democrats will be taking credit for it..

"And so it goes... and so it goes..."
-Billy Joel, AND SO IT GOES

Michale

You probably won't be mocking them IF America slips into recession later in the year though. And they will be whipping out a big can of 'I told you so' while Republicans try to blame Obama (again) for the Sequester...

And there is that too..

Ya know Obama is in trouble when the MSM bastion of liberal-ness starts ridiculing him.. :D

Michale

I am..

And common sense is telling me that Obama and the Democrats are full of shit with all their gloom and doom apocalyptic garbage...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/5/email-tells-feds-make-sequester-painful-promised/

Apparently, everyone else knows they are full of shit too.. :D

Michale

Especially when you've got a politician saying 'the economy is awful, Obama has wrecked the American economy... but they are still raising the most tax revenue ever' lolol. I mean use your COMMON SENSE lol.

I mean seriously? Do people have no rational or logical skills at all???

That's one possibility...

The other possibility is that you are wrong and everyone else is right..

"You can't discard one theory just because you don't happen to like it."
-Martin Sheen, THE FINAL COUNTDOWN

:D

Michale

I mean seriously? Do people have no rational or logical skills at all???

Lol nope. This statement is as dumb an understanding of money and the time value of money as saying things like:

- 'The stock market is at an all time high!'
- 'Gases are at all time high prices!'
- 'The deficit is at an all time high!'
- 'GDP is at an all time high!'
- 'The number of people working in America today is at an all time high!'
- 'Average American salaries are at an all time high'

Absolutely none of these statistics are meaningful in the slightest because they firstly ignore the time value of money and secondly have absolutely no context to them.

Capitol janitors making ‘ends meet’ with overtime? Nope
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/capitol-janitors-making-ends-meet-with-overtime-nope/2013/03/05/f07a4f8c-85f9-11e2-9d71-f0feafdd1394_blog.html

Com'on, people!! Ya'all are ALL about "Fact Checking" when it comes to the GOP...

No fact checks for Emperor Barack The First??

Michale

Looks like the White House is getting a little defensive.. :D

This is the down side of screaming "THE SKY IS FALLING" and then having the Stock Market rally to record highs...

:D

Jeeze...

The scumbag Hugo Chavez is dead...

Massive amounts of egg on the face of Democrats and Obama while they dine on Crow Pie...

Could this day get ANY better?? :D

Michale

Hugo Chavez just died...

The world is a little bit better place now that this scumbag has kicked the bucket...

Michale

it would, because it seems nothing short of the apocalypse is going to stop Pearson Education from skimming billions of dollars and weeks of wasted instructional time from our nation's schools.

But that wouldn't be "apocalyptic" right? :D

It would be under the heading of A GOOD THING, right?? :D

Michale

well... i'm hoping for an end to two thirds of the country's standardized testing, does that count?

Ya'all are not.... HOPING for apocalyptic occurrences from Obama's sequester...???

Are you??

Because, if you are, that would be such a... a... oh I dunno... Republican thing to do...

Wouldn't ya agree?? :D

Michale.....

So, we have record high tax revenues and the have Obama's Sequester cuts that aren't causing the apocalyptic mayhem that was predicted..

Hmmmmmm Things are looking pretty good, eh??

I betcha Ten Thousand Quatloos that Obama will start embracing his Sequester and crow about what a great idea it really was..

You watch.... :D

Michale

Let's get to brass tacks here..

How long should we give it before we can call BS on the Left's predictions over Obama's Sequester??

A week?? A month?? Six months?? A year??

"How many people does it take before it's wrong, Admiral!!?? A hundred!?? A thousand!!?? A million!!?? How many, Admiral!!??"
-Captain Jean Luc Picard, STAR TREK IX INSURRECTION

:D

Michale

Common ground.. Truly a wonderful thing.. :D

Now, if we can just get other Weigantians to admit the facts, things would be hunky dorky... :D

But I don't really care because I know (and have had to do this many times myself) sometimes it takes a lot of exaggeration to get the message home to non-financially minded people.

Perhaps.. But it also leaves one open to ridicule and disbelief the next time they cry wolf...

Does it mean that 100,000 teachers will be fired? No! But you're putting it in terms they can understand.

Then they need to clarify that in those terms..

Obama stated that janitors would lose their jobs..

That was bullshit..

Napalitano stated that airports were having delays.

THAT was bullshit..

Ya'all call bullshit on the GOP on a daily, sometimes HOURLY basis..

Wouldn't it behoove ya'all to call bullshit on Obama and the Dems when THEY spew the bs??

I'm just sayin'....

And the only way the rise in the stock market could be related to the Sequester is if the Sequester magically popped up announced and this is the markets reaction to it. Considering the bill to create it was literally passed months ago then you can assume the market has already assimilated this information (that's how markets work).

While the bill may have been created months ago, it was vaporware until Obama signed his Sequester last Friday..

Put another way.. Ya'all pointed out the rise in the stock market days after Dems taxes went into effect and said, "See!?? No problem" or words to that effect..

I simply used your own words and your own timing on Obama's Sequester...

Michale

But I don't really care because I know (and have had to do this many times myself) sometimes it takes a lot of exaggeration to get the message home to non-financially minded people. You can say to someone 'the education budget is going to be cut by $10b or 10%' and they'll be like 'meh, I don't even know what that means'. Or you can say '$10b is the equivalent of 100,000 teachers'. That usually gets the message home.

Does it mean that 100,000 teachers will be fired? No! But you're putting it in terms they can understand.

And the only way the rise in the stock market could be related to the Sequester is if the Sequester magically popped up announced and this is the markets reaction to it. Considering the bill to create it was literally passed months ago then you can assume the market has already assimilated this information (that's how markets work).

While it's true I may not understand the Stock Market, I *DO* completely and unequivocally understand the political ideologue... They are very similar to the religious ideologue...

Everything good and right in the world is because of their chosen Political Party/Deity. Everything evil and wrong in the world is the fault of those who don't follow their chosen Political Party/Deity...

The Stock Market going high is just the latest example that proves the rule... :D

Michale

I don't get the article CW, everyone knows what Republicans want to cut: anything that will help the poor/unemployed/sick/veterans/elderly. That is, the people least able to defend themselves or contribute to their campaigns. Of course they are not going to publicly admit this as a fact and try to spin it!

Apparently the Stock Market doesn't share in Obama's and the Democrats' gloom and doom, apocalyptic nightmares that would be brought about by Obama's Sequester...

Since ya'all have pointed to the Stock Market highs as "proof" that things are good, I am sure you will agree that it's also "proof" that Obama and the Democrats were wrong about Obama's Sequester..

Right?? :D

Michale

According to Obama and Napalitano, the ax ALREADY fell...

Of course, we know that it only fell in Blue Fairy Godmother land.. :D

cCain's got it exactly right, in calling out his own political party's nonsense. It is a violation of the Constitution for Congress to just throw its hands up in the air and let the president do whatever he wants with the budget -- even if Congress limits the money the president can spend. It is, in essence, saying "here's a blank check, we don't care how you spend it" rather than doing the job of writing a budget. This is unconstitutional for a very good reason. This is why the Supreme Court threw out the "line-item veto" that Congress tried to hand to President Clinton. It is the duty -- the constitutional duty -- of Congress to write the budget.

And yet, as we have seen time and time again, Obama and the Democrats have absolutely NO problem trampling on the Constitution when it suits their agenda and they perceive that Congress isn't doing their "constitutional duty"....

The imposed DREAM ACT and the unconstitutional "Recess" appointments come to mind..

So, what you are basically saying (please feel free to correct me if I have it wrong. People around here seem to think that my interpretational skills need help.. :D) is that it's perfectly OK for Obama and the Democrats to ignore the Constitution if they perceive that Congress isn't doing their jobs, but it's NOT OK for Republicans to propose the same thing for the same reason...

Of course, what's really going on here is Republicans are finally facing the hard fact that the American people, in general, actually like all that stuff that government does.

Assumes facts not in evidence..

If you amend that to say that the American people in general like SOME of that stuff that government does, you would be accurate...

The problem with THAT interpretation, however, is that different Americans like different stuff :D

I'll get to the rest later. I am sure there is enough there for ya'all to rake me over the coals.. :D

Michale