Comments on: Getting The Gay Marriage Cases Backwards? http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/ Reality-based political commentary Wed, 13 May 2026 04:47:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30946 Michale Fri, 14 Dec 2012 12:56:40 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30946 <I>So you won $13 and that's lucky? But I thought that "13"... Hmmm... I think I just blew a fuse in the superstition department or something...</I> Rut Roh... You question the Superstition Goddesses!?? Yer in trouble now!! :D Michale 0378 So you won $13 and that's lucky? But I thought that "13"...

Hmmm... I think I just blew a fuse in the superstition department or something...

Rut Roh...

You question the Superstition Goddesses!??

Yer in trouble now!! :D

Michale
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]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30920 Chris Weigant Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:06:32 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30920 Michale [9] - So you won $13 and that's lucky? But I thought that "13"... Hmmm... I think I just blew a fuse in the superstition department or something... Heh. -CW Michale [9] -

So you won $13 and that's lucky? But I thought that "13"...

Hmmm... I think I just blew a fuse in the superstition department or something...

Heh.

-CW

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30881 Michale Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:57:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30881 <I>The Mayans never predicted the world would end this month. I think they predicted at least another 8000 years!</I> Yea, and I hope I am around to see it! :D I did my little numbers game yesterday.. I bought 12 lottery tickets at exactly 1212hrs on 12/12/12... I at least got my money back, plus a dollar extra... :^/ I was a lot more successful last year when I bought 11 lottery tickets at exactly 1111hrs on 11/11/11.. I won $30 bucks then.. :) <I>So, I'm afraid you're still on solid track to make this a very Merry Christmas for CW.com Inc.</I> Oh, no doubt.. :D Michale 0347 The Mayans never predicted the world would end this month. I think they predicted at least another 8000 years!

Yea, and I hope I am around to see it! :D

I did my little numbers game yesterday.. I bought 12 lottery tickets at exactly 1212hrs on 12/12/12...

I at least got my money back, plus a dollar extra... :^/

I was a lot more successful last year when I bought 11 lottery tickets at exactly 1111hrs on 11/11/11.. I won $30 bucks then.. :)

So, I'm afraid you're still on solid track to make this a very Merry Christmas for CW.com Inc.

Oh, no doubt.. :D

Michale
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]]> By: Americulchie http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30863 Americulchie Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:04:04 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30863 All commentary here has given me a good laugh,that said I would say half a loaf is better than none.Oh the potential for comedy is immense.We shall see how this turns out let us not forget that the Supreme's remain conservative. All commentary here has given me a good laugh,that said I would say half a loaf is better than none.Oh the potential for comedy is immense.We shall see how this turns out let us not forget that the Supreme's remain conservative.

]]> By: Elizabeth Miller http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30861 Elizabeth Miller Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:04:24 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30861 Michale, The Mayans never predicted the world would end this month. I think they predicted at least another 8000 years! So, I'm afraid you're still on solid track to make this a very Merry Christmas for CW.com Inc. Michale,

The Mayans never predicted the world would end this month. I think they predicted at least another 8000 years!

So, I'm afraid you're still on solid track to make this a very Merry Christmas for CW.com Inc.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30855 Michale Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:28:44 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30855 <I>I also predict that these events will be considered signs of the apocalypse at World Net Daily. </I> Yea, much as the heralds of Left Wing rhetoric predicted that The Patriot Act would bring us Jack-Booted Stormtroopers and midnight knocks at the door... :D Michale 0342 I also predict that these events will be considered signs of the apocalypse at World Net Daily.

Yea, much as the heralds of Left Wing rhetoric predicted that The Patriot Act would bring us Jack-Booted Stormtroopers and midnight knocks at the door... :D

Michale
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]]> By: akadjian http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30852 akadjian Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:33:29 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30852 <i> I also predict that these events will be considered signs of the apocalypse at World Net Daily. </i> Hahahahaahahahahahaaahh A quick interesting thought. This has nothing to do with Supreme Courtacy and everything to do with politics. What if conservatives are interested in taking the gay marriage issue off the table? I think this actually might be a good move for them as public opinion seems to be in the Democrats' favor on this. I'm not sure of the effect it would have on their Christian base but I doubt it would be an issue with their Libertarian base. Anyways ... I'm all for support wherever you can find it. Politics makes strange bedfellows as they say and, seemingly would fit in with much of your argument Chris. -David I also predict that these events will be considered signs of the apocalypse at World Net Daily.

Hahahahaahahahahahaaahh

A quick interesting thought. This has nothing to do with Supreme Courtacy and everything to do with politics.

What if conservatives are interested in taking the gay marriage issue off the table?

I think this actually might be a good move for them as public opinion seems to be in the Democrats' favor on this.

I'm not sure of the effect it would have on their Christian base but I doubt it would be an issue with their Libertarian base.

Anyways ... I'm all for support wherever you can find it. Politics makes strange bedfellows as they say and, seemingly would fit in with much of your argument Chris.

-David

]]> By: LewDan http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30850 LewDan Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:13:12 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30850 Chris, Interesting analysis. My view, however is that you are overlooking the fact that Prop 8 wasn't decided on the basis of the separate but unequal marriage rights it imposed in California, and I don't see, "once you've allowed it you can never change your mind," as a constitutional principle appropriate to a democracy. The trial judge, however, was very careful to decide that there was no State interest involved in banning gay marriage nor were there any constitutional grounds for it. IMHO if SCOTUS affirms the judge's decision it cuts the legs out from under all gay marriage bans, and I don't see how they can totally reject the decision of the trier-of-fact and yet affirm a decision on some other grounds they've invented out of whole cloth. Still, this is the Robert's court. They might just do anything. And DOMA? Clearly unconstitutional also. And the kind of ruling you envision would mandate separate but unequal as the law of the land, with any state that chooses to ban gay-marriage being forced to recognize some marriages while refusing to acknowledge others. Though like Prop 8, the decision and its impact will be totally dependent on the willingness of the court to either obey the Constitution or rewrite the Constitution. Personally, I wouldn't give odds on the Constitution winning. Chris,

Interesting analysis. My view, however is that you are overlooking the fact that Prop 8 wasn't decided on the basis of the separate but unequal marriage rights it imposed in California, and I don't see, "once you've allowed it you can never change your mind," as a constitutional principle appropriate to a democracy. The trial judge, however, was very careful to decide that there was no State interest involved in banning gay marriage nor were there any constitutional grounds for it.

IMHO if SCOTUS affirms the judge's decision it cuts the legs out from under all gay marriage bans, and I don't see how they can totally reject the decision of the trier-of-fact and yet affirm a decision on some other grounds they've invented out of whole cloth. Still, this is the Robert's court. They might just do anything.

And DOMA? Clearly unconstitutional also. And the kind of ruling you envision would mandate separate but unequal as the law of the land, with any state that chooses to ban gay-marriage being forced to recognize some marriages while refusing to acknowledge others. Though like Prop 8, the decision and its impact will be totally dependent on the willingness of the court to either obey the Constitution or rewrite the Constitution. Personally, I wouldn't give odds on the Constitution winning.

]]> By: Michale http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30841 Michale Wed, 12 Dec 2012 10:01:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30841 <I>About that "half loaf:" I predict that the marriage equality lobby will not be satisfied with a mere half loaf.</I> Maybe the Mayans were right and the world WILL end this month.. I just agreed with Matt.. :D Michale 0336 About that "half loaf:" I predict that the marriage equality lobby will not be satisfied with a mere half loaf.

Maybe the Mayans were right and the world WILL end this month..

I just agreed with Matt.. :D

Michale
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]]> By: Chris Weigant http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30836 Chris Weigant Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:28:03 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30836 Osborne Ink - That second prediction made me laugh, I have to admit! :-) -CW Osborne Ink -

That second prediction made me laugh, I have to admit!

:-)

-CW

]]> By: Osborne Ink http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/12/11/getting-the-gay-marriage-cases-backwards/#comment-30834 Osborne Ink Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:43:27 +0000 http://www.chrisweigant.com/?p=6681#comment-30834 About that "half loaf:" I predict that the marriage equality lobby will not be satisfied with a mere half loaf. I further predict that the same bullet point will manifest in gay divorce. When that Texas lesbian couple asks their state to provide separation -- just like any other divorcing couple has a right to ask of the state -- Texas will probably resist, and then we'll have another court case for the other half of this loaf. I also predict that these events will be considered signs of the apocalypse at World Net Daily. About that "half loaf:" I predict that the marriage equality lobby will not be satisfied with a mere half loaf. I further predict that the same bullet point will manifest in gay divorce. When that Texas lesbian couple asks their state to provide separation -- just like any other divorcing couple has a right to ask of the state -- Texas will probably resist, and then we'll have another court case for the other half of this loaf.

I also predict that these events will be considered signs of the apocalypse at World Net Daily.

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