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		<title>By: michty6</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30048</link>
		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this approval rating bounce is a &#039;reality bounce&#039; across America.

During election time people become more partisan and this election is probably one of the most partisan ever seen, with Republicans predicting the end of the world as we know it should the evil overlord Obama be re-elected.

I&#039;d imagine a lot of people have awoken to reality in the past few weeks and seen this nonsense for what it is.  The right-wing media are victims of their own delusion in this sense: they attempted to convince people into thinking a 47%-guy landslide was imminent and lost their credibility in doing so.

This means a lot of people are only just realising that Obama isn&#039;t the evil overlord the right-wing media made him out to believe.  That he is actually quite popular across the country, his policies &#039;aren&#039;t so bad&#039; - in fact are very popular and maybe, perhaps he didn&#039;t walk into Libya and shoot the ambassador himself as the right-wing echo chamber practically said in their exaggerated attempts to make this an election issue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this approval rating bounce is a 'reality bounce' across America.</p>
<p>During election time people become more partisan and this election is probably one of the most partisan ever seen, with Republicans predicting the end of the world as we know it should the evil overlord Obama be re-elected.</p>
<p>I'd imagine a lot of people have awoken to reality in the past few weeks and seen this nonsense for what it is.  The right-wing media are victims of their own delusion in this sense: they attempted to convince people into thinking a 47%-guy landslide was imminent and lost their credibility in doing so.</p>
<p>This means a lot of people are only just realising that Obama isn't the evil overlord the right-wing media made him out to believe.  That he is actually quite popular across the country, his policies 'aren't so bad' - in fact are very popular and maybe, perhaps he didn't walk into Libya and shoot the ambassador himself as the right-wing echo chamber practically said in their exaggerated attempts to make this an election issue...</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30043</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Those irresistible kittens get me all the time! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Those irresistible kittens get me all the time! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30042</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale,

You will have to give your 007 comment special consideration ... in view of the 50th anniversary of all things Bond on the big screen, you know. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale,</p>
<p>You will have to give your 007 comment special consideration ... in view of the 50th anniversary of all things Bond on the big screen, you know. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30037</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, Liz.

Things are tight this year, so I might have to be frugal...

But don&#039;t worry CW..  Ya know what a problem I have keeping my mouth shut..  Or, in this case, my fingers..  :D

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don't worry, Liz.</p>
<p>Things are tight this year, so I might have to be frugal...</p>
<p>But don't worry CW..  Ya know what a problem I have keeping my mouth shut..  Or, in this case, my fingers..  :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30036</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LizM and Michale -

Oh, dang, I gotta get the kittens ready, don&#039;t I?

Heh.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LizM and Michale -</p>
<p>Oh, dang, I gotta get the kittens ready, don't I?</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30031</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale,

Please take pity on the rest of the poor Wiegantians like me.

Thanking you in advance.

Seriously! 

$1 per post!? Did you up that wager in place of no inflation? Heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale,</p>
<p>Please take pity on the rest of the poor Wiegantians like me.</p>
<p>Thanking you in advance.</p>
<p>Seriously! </p>
<p>$1 per post!? Did you up that wager in place of no inflation? Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30028</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How many represent genuinely competitive districts or states, where compromise is simply a smart political move for the next general election.&lt;/i&gt;

Zero.  The next general election is an off-year election.  Low-turnout.  Featuring the base, not even all the base, and nothing but the base.  Compromise is for legislators from safe districts, starting about a year from now.

&lt;i&gt;I suspect all of the above are shifting in the Dems favor&lt;/i&gt;

So do I.  Last time was The Shellacking.  This time we&#039;re just in for &lt;i&gt;a&lt;/i&gt; shellacking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How many represent genuinely competitive districts or states, where compromise is simply a smart political move for the next general election.</i></p>
<p>Zero.  The next general election is an off-year election.  Low-turnout.  Featuring the base, not even all the base, and nothing but the base.  Compromise is for legislators from safe districts, starting about a year from now.</p>
<p><i>I suspect all of the above are shifting in the Dems favor</i></p>
<p>So do I.  Last time was The Shellacking.  This time we're just in for <i>a</i> shellacking.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30020</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Michael, I take your point, but:

nobody really knows what the right side of history will be (there will be more than one, once the articles, books and movies trickle out over the decades) but politicians will make their best guess in the here and now and move forward. This could be called political relativity.
&lt;/I&gt;

Agreed.

I was just pointing out, as David and I agreed to in the previous commentary, that not EVERYTHING Democrats want to do is automagically good..

Just as not EVERYTHING Republicans want to do is automagically bad..

That&#039;s what&#039;s so great about being a registered NPA...

I feel no obligation to go Right just because the Republicans SAY it&#039;s right...

Just as I feel no obligation to go Left just because the Democrats say it&#039;s left... er... correct..


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Michael, I take your point, but:</p>
<p>nobody really knows what the right side of history will be (there will be more than one, once the articles, books and movies trickle out over the decades) but politicians will make their best guess in the here and now and move forward. This could be called political relativity.<br />
</i></p>
<p>Agreed.</p>
<p>I was just pointing out, as David and I agreed to in the previous commentary, that not EVERYTHING Democrats want to do is automagically good..</p>
<p>Just as not EVERYTHING Republicans want to do is automagically bad..</p>
<p>That's what's so great about being a registered NPA...</p>
<p>I feel no obligation to go Right just because the Republicans SAY it's right...</p>
<p>Just as I feel no obligation to go Left just because the Democrats say it's left... er... correct..</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30018</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I take your point, but:

nobody really knows what the right side of history will be (there will be more than one, once the articles, books and movies trickle out over the decades) but politicians will make their best guess in the here and now and move forward.  This could be called political relativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I take your point, but:</p>
<p>nobody really knows what the right side of history will be (there will be more than one, once the articles, books and movies trickle out over the decades) but politicians will make their best guess in the here and now and move forward.  This could be called political relativity.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30012</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;1) How many Republicans are retiring this year, and willing or eager to get on the right side of history and compromise?&lt;/I&gt;

This, of course, assumes that DEMOCRATS are &quot;on the right side of history&quot;..

A VERY large leap of faith, considering how bad they have done the last 4 years...


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>1) How many Republicans are retiring this year, and willing or eager to get on the right side of history and compromise?</i></p>
<p>This, of course, assumes that DEMOCRATS are "on the right side of history"..</p>
<p>A VERY large leap of faith, considering how bad they have done the last 4 years...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30011</link>
		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All things being equal, I&#039;d prefer Obama&#039;s national approval to go up, but politics is still largely local.

So, 

1) How many Republicans are retiring this year, and willing or eager to get on the right side of history and compromise?

2) How many represent genuinely competitive districts or states, where compromise is simply a smart political move for the next general election.

3) How many live in districts with a well organized Tea Party base, which can engineer a credible primary change, given a bit of outside help with money and media, trumping (2).

4) Are out of state big pocket donors still willing to part with cash after the 2010 experience of fielding weak tea which went on to lose in the general election?

I suspect all of the above are shifting in the Dems favor, and that changes in popular opinion are actually lagging indicators of how smart Republican operators adjust to the situation, and how adjustment in turn affects how they talk to the news media.  Rabble rousing seems much reduced in the GOP and this trend may even work it&#039;s way into Fox and AM radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All things being equal, I'd prefer Obama's national approval to go up, but politics is still largely local.</p>
<p>So, </p>
<p>1) How many Republicans are retiring this year, and willing or eager to get on the right side of history and compromise?</p>
<p>2) How many represent genuinely competitive districts or states, where compromise is simply a smart political move for the next general election.</p>
<p>3) How many live in districts with a well organized Tea Party base, which can engineer a credible primary change, given a bit of outside help with money and media, trumping (2).</p>
<p>4) Are out of state big pocket donors still willing to part with cash after the 2010 experience of fielding weak tea which went on to lose in the general election?</p>
<p>I suspect all of the above are shifting in the Dems favor, and that changes in popular opinion are actually lagging indicators of how smart Republican operators adjust to the situation, and how adjustment in turn affects how they talk to the news media.  Rabble rousing seems much reduced in the GOP and this trend may even work it's way into Fox and AM radio.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/11/20/obamas-election-bounce/#comment-30002</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t forgotten our semi-official wager..

Starting at 0000hrs tonight, I will begin numbering my posts and comments.  

I will donate $1 for each post I make between 0000hrs 22 Nov 2012 and 0000hrs 2 Jan 2013.

And may the gods have mercy on your souls!!   :D

&lt;B&gt;&quot; Bones! Buckle up! &quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-James T Kirk, STAR TREK 90210

:D

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven't forgotten our semi-official wager..</p>
<p>Starting at 0000hrs tonight, I will begin numbering my posts and comments.  </p>
<p>I will donate $1 for each post I make between 0000hrs 22 Nov 2012 and 0000hrs 2 Jan 2013.</p>
<p>And may the gods have mercy on your souls!!   :D</p>
<p><b>" Bones! Buckle up! "</b><br />
-James T Kirk, STAR TREK 90210</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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