Yea.... Classy......

Michale......

Wanna bet???

I wager that Benghazi will explode... Because after the election (having lost) Obama et al will have no reason to continue to stonewall...

Let's put something on the line... :D

As far as denying Obama a second term??

Considering how bad Obama and the Democrats frak'ed things up, that's the BIGGEST Service to the country the GOP has EVER done.... :D

Michale.....

Yes! The entire "grand bargain" ... Health care ... Bowles-Simpson ... the Iraq and Afghanistan wars ... education ... Obama reducing the size of government ... and on ... and on ... and on ... and on ...

I would call them out on it, Michale, if it were true. But it isn't.

Now there is plenty of evidence that conservatives are simply blocking everything.

Mostly that they've just plain out said it.

Mitch McConnell: "Our top political priority over the next 2 years should be to deny President Obama a second term."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gM-1HbK4qU

These are your heroes, Michale. F*ck the country, f*ck everything, just un-elect Obama.

Now I'm sorry if you don't like this and I'm sure you'll find some way to claim something different because you believe you're in a war against liberals and any lies are justified, but it just isn't true.

-David

p.s. Benghazi goes away after the election. It's almost gone now because it's been so thoroughly debunked. Notice that news organizations (other than Fox) are simply not reporting on it anymore.

:)

Why do I believe this? Because they spent the last 4 years not doing anything but playing politics.

Is there any evidence that liberals in Congress have NOT been playing politics??

Nope..

So why not call them out on it as well??? :D

Michale....

Then why are ya'all so blase' when he rules as one???

Lololol oh yeh I forgot the Michale-golden-rule 'good stuff that happens under Obama is not his fault'. Seriously you are so blind to reality and sold by the rhetoric it amazes me. It's like oil production still isn't flying sky high in Michale-world thanks to Obama the evil emperor. Luckily for America (and the rest of the world) it seems there are enough people tuned into reality to stop America making a huge mistake this year.

TRANSLATION: Ya got me on that one...

:D

Just for you, Michty... :D

http://washingtonexaminer.com/barone-going-out-on-a-limb-romney-wins-handily/article/2512470#.UJS974bvDpU

Remember my mantra on 7 Nov...

POLLS.... DON'T.... MEAN.... SHIT.... :D

Michale....

Obama has since totally negated these advances by having his EPA completely sidestep Congress and rule by fiat..

Lololol oh yeh I forgot the Michale-golden-rule 'good stuff that happens under Obama is not his fault'. Seriously you are so blind to reality and sold by the rhetoric it amazes me. It's like oil production still isn't flying sky high in Michale-world thanks to Obama the evil emperor. Luckily for America (and the rest of the world) it seems there are enough people tuned into reality to stop America making a huge mistake this year.

That's easy to admit. Obama is not an emperor.

Now I'll leave you to your ranting ... it's time for beers.

-David

Once again, reality intrudes on your fantasy..

The advanced Oil Production in the EARLY part of the Obama years was due to BUSH's oil policies and programs...

Obama has since totally negated these advances by having his EPA completely sidestep Congress and rule by fiat..

As much as ya'all don't like to admit it, Obama is NOT an emperor....

Michale.....

- The financial crisis
- The Iraq War
- The Arab Spring

SERIOUSLY!???

We're NOT "through" the financial crisis...

Iraq is descending into an Islamist state.

Arab Spring??

Have you forgotten Benghazi???

If you ever get sick of the bad ideas over there, c'mon over to the liberal side. It's much funnier over here as well and not nearly as angry.

Probably because ya'all simply ignore reality.. :D

Michale.....

Absolutely! In times of crisis, you want competent people around to handle things. Yunno, like Democrats.

I mean look at all the crises just Obama has gotten us through ...

- The financial crisis
- The Iraq War
- The Arab Spring

And now Hurricane Sandy.

Republicans on the other hand seem to cause crises through their misguided ideologies like trickle down economics and Cheney's 1% doctrine.

If you ever get sick of the bad ideas over there, c'mon over to the liberal side. It's much funnier over here as well and not nearly as angry.

:)
-David

It turns out that NC is going to be a lot closer than I thought at first. There isn't a lot of recent polling there (only 4 polls in the last week), so I need more data though...

I believe that many conservatives have no interest in a united country.

Especially, many of those in Congress.

Why do I believe this? Because they spent the last 4 years not doing anything but playing politics.

If you donate to the Right, you get an IRS audit.

Are you sure? I thought if you donated to the Right you were promised a tax break and a magic unicorn.

Didn't you get your magic unicorn Michale?

-David

Lol seriously? You actually believe this was a serious statement not a joke??? You are lost.

Do you REALLY want to bring up Hurricane Sandy??

Of course. It was bad but Obama handled it excellently. On that there is no disagreement, even from Republicans.

Obama's war on domestic oil production...
Oh SNAP!! :D

It amazes me that for months all we've heard is 'Obama can't run on his record!' or 'his record is so bad' yet you ask people to name things he has done that are bad and they have nothing. Empty rhetoric. This is a perfect example. When domestic oil production in America is at an 8 YEAR HIGH and reliance on foreign oil at a 16 YEAR LOW apparently Obama has a war on domestic oil lololol.

CW, when I try to type a URL dealing with Non-Union recovery workers being denied access to Sandy recovery, the software sends it to NNL...

Decatur Utilities crews home after issues with union
http://tinyurl.com/axycnuy

It's done it 4 times now...

Weird...

Anyway, that's another example of Obama's UNITED States...

If you aren't Union, you don't exist...

Your services are not required....

Michale......

Obama's war on domestic oil production...

Oh SNAP!! :D

Michale....

Drivers Waiting 6 Hours For Gas in NYC...
Tempers Rise in Wake of Storm...
'They forgot about us'...
CHUCK SCHUMER CONFRONTED: 'We Are Gonna Die!'
CUOMO: 'No reason to panic'...
Utility workers pelted with eggs...
Misery...
Mile-long lines, price hits $6...
Residents Furious RED CROSS Offering Cookies & Hot Chocolate, Not Blankets Or Clothes...
Two massive generators power NY media, not masses...
Staten Islanders Plead for Help: 'We Need Food'...
'Please don't leave us'...
VIDEO: Stranded New Yorkers Defecating in Apartment Buildings...
DIRE...

Do you REALLY want to bring up Hurricane Sandy???

Michale...

"I'll buy everyone in the room a beer.. Except for the guy holding the ROMNEY sign"
-President Barack Obama

That attitude has epitomized the Obama Presidency..

If you are a donor, you get the world..

If you donate to the Right, you get an IRS audit..

Do you HONESTLY believe that Obama has united this country???

Michale.....

And ... how is this not correct?

It looks like this was exactly the case during Hurricane Sandy.

-David

I believe Romney when he says he doesn't give a crap about half the country.

Why not??

We believed Obama when he said there were no RED or BLUE states, just a UNITED States..

Romney CAN'T be any worse than Obama...

Michale.....

Yes, let's elect Mitt Romney, that self-proclaimed champion of the middle class & poor!

His solution to not give a shit about them will solve all of our problems!!!

Buahahahahah. Sorry, Michale ... I just don't buy it.

-David

Really? Name ONE - just ONE - Obama policy that contributed to any of these things or substantiates this rhetoric then you'll have a discussion...

Yet he ignores the middle class and the poor..

Gas prices double.

Median family income down..

Obama simply doesn't know how to run a business...

It's THAT simple...

Michale.....

Well said ...

Everyone should be asking this question. Who do both sides owe?

For example, you can say that Barack Obama has taken campaign contributions from large donors and this is most likely true. However, what's left out of this equation is that an equal amount of his support has come from small donors.

Obama owes both.

This isn't so true with the Romney campaign. The vast majority of his support has come from wealthy donors with even more coming from outside SuperPACs.

Romney owes only one group- the very wealthy.

It's just amazing that this little piece of analysis is so often left out by our wonderful media.

What you typically hear in our corporate media (which can publish anything so long as it doesn't offend potential advertisers) goes something more like this "Obama has wealthy donors!" and "Romney has wealthy donors!" therefore both sides do it and the two are equal.

-David

It is vitally important that the Republican party be kept away from as much power as possible until the party regains its senses again. It is not just important to the advance of progressive goals, thought it is. It is not just important to maintain the modicum of social justice that it has taken eighty years to build into the institutions of our government, though it is. It is important, too, that that you vote for one of these men based on whom else, exactly, he owes. Who is it that's going to come with the fiddler to collect when you get what you've bargained for?
Barack Obama owes more than I'd like him to owe to the Wall Street crowd. He probably at this point owes a little more than I'd like him to owe to the military. The rest he owes to the millions of people who elected him in 2008 — especially to those people whose enthusiasm I neither shared nor really understood — and he will owe them even more if they come out and pull his chestnuts out of the fire for him this time around. He may sell them out — and, yes, I understand if you wanted to add "again" to that statement — but they are not likely to revenge themselves against the country if he does and, even if they decided to, they don't have the power to do much but yell at the right buildings.
On the other hand, Willard Romney owes even more to the Wall Street crowd, and he owes even more to the military, but he also owes everything he is politically to the snake-handlers and the Bible-bangers, to the Creationist morons and to the people who stalk doctors and glue their heads to the clinic doors, to the reckless plutocrats and to the vote-suppressors, to the Randian fantasts and libertarian fakers, to the closeted and not-so-closeted racists who have been so empowered by the party that has given them a home, to the enemies of science and to the enemies of reason, to the devil's bargain of obvious tactical deceit and to the devil's honoraria of dark, anonymous money, and, ultimately, to those shadowy places in himself wherein Romney sold out who he might actually be to his overweening ambition. It is a fearsome bill to come due for any man, let alone one as mendaciously malleable as the Republican nominee. Obama owes the disgruntled. Romney owes the crazy. And that makes all the difference.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/obama-endorsement-2012-14278423#ixzz2B5WeRohj

Btw this is the same Economist that endorsed BUSH in 2000 and Dole in 96!

And Bloomberg hasn't endorsed anyone ever before.

I think the math is a little wonky still but in the spirit of bipartisanship, I'll go on record for the fund drive as offering to match the first $300 in donations to help support CW's work no matter who wins.

Best,
-David

p.s. BTW, Michty. I was quite surprised to see the economist endorse Obama as they seemed to solidly back Romney in the primary.

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21565623-america-could-do-better-barack-obama-sadly-mitt-romney-does-not-fit-bill-which-one

"For all his businesslike intentions, Mr Romney has an economic plan that works only if you don’t believe most of what he says. That is not a convincing pitch for a chief executive. And for all his shortcomings, Mr Obama has dragged America’s economy back from the brink of disaster, and has made a decent fist of foreign policy. So this newspaper would stick with the devil it knows, and re-elect him."

The richest Americans are the least likely to spend extra money they get as a result of a tax cut, and are more likely to save it or invest it offshore. Those on the lower end of the economic spectrum, meanwhile, are the most likely to spend transfer payments they receive from the government.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/01/congressional-research-service_n_2059156.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

chrisweigant.com :D

That should read:

The "charity" is pre-chosen...

chrisweigant.com :D

My bust...

Michale

The charity is pre-chosen...

chrisweigant.com :D

I don't really understand your deal, it seems that if someone is matching 100% then under option 1 (O wins) they will pay more and under option 2 (R wins) they will pay more! Heads I win tails you lose kinda thing!

Yikes!!! Good point.. Never considered that..

In the interests of fairness, those who choose matching funds will only have to match 50% of my total...

Good catch...

Michale....

I don't really understand your deal, it seems that if someone is matching 100% then under option 1 (O wins) they will pay more and under option 2 (R wins) they will pay more! Heads I win tails you lose kinda thing!

The challenge for the 4th Annual (5th???) Fund Drive is that, if Obama wins the election, I will be upping my per post from 50 cents to 1 dollar per post... :D

If Romney wins, those who choose matching funds will pledge 200% matching funds donations..

In the interests of full disclosure, a normal Fund Drive, I usually hit $250 to $300 worth of posts..

Liz brought up an interesting notion.. Since, one way or another, there is likely to be donations in excess of $500, maybe CW will allow us to make payments on the donations, to kinda spread the pain out. :D

That's pretty much the gist of the Great Obama/Romney/Weigantia challenge.. :D

Michale.....

The only "poll news" that will matter, my friend, are the "polls" on 7 Nov 2012...

Did you see the OvR challenge I put forward to Weigantians??

Maybe you want to get a piece of that action, eh?? :D

"Well, in a few years, the Iotians may demand a piece of OUR action."
Captain James T Kirk, STAR TREK TOS, A Piece Of The Action

:D

Michale.....

I think you are a little from each ;)

In other poll news, I am surprised Ras moved to 'tied' today. I was expecting them to go R+1 today, move to tied probably on Sunday and then move to O+1/2 on Monday so they can at least pretend to be accurate...

Well said, as always....

Michale.....

You can be forgiven for your ignorance....

"You mean to insult me? There is no dishonor in not knowing everything?"
-SubCommander T'al, STAR TREK TOS, The Enterprise Incident

:D

.... because you weren't around here during the 2000 and 2004 elections. The Left was absolutely HYSTERICAL, screaming voter fraud and computer fraud at every turn...

Michale.....

Bush's approval right before the 2004 election was 48.3

This election is starting to look a lot like 2004: shaky economy, approval rating close to 49%, slightly behind in the national polls (although not any-more today) but winning the EC.

I just wonder why we don't hear much from the LEFT over voter machine problems when they seem to FAVOR the Left?

Ah it's the return of this imaginary guy you call 'the left' again. And in imagination world he doesn't care about voting machines and the integrity of the vote. I'd love to see this imaginary world...

Where's the Left's outcry over voting machine problems??? :D

Don't get me wrong.. I have always maintained that any problem with electronic/computerized voting machines are 99.9% operator error..

As an IT Hardware Tech of no small experience (if I do say so myself :D and I do) I can attest that most computer problems people have are of the I.D.Ten-T variety... :D

I just wonder why we don't hear much from the LEFT over voter machine problems when they seem to FAVOR the Left??

Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :D

Michale

Only one ya could find that had good news, eh??? :D

J/K I know you better than that.. :D

Michale....

Yes, it is!