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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/10/veep-debate-ready-to-rumble/#comment-27868</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Obama has 59 Electoral College votes under the &quot;LIKELY&quot; and &quot;LEAN&quot; columns..

Romney has 105 Electoral College votes under the &quot;LIKELY&quot; and &quot;LEAN&quot; columns..

156 Electoral Votes are in the &quot;TOSS UP&quot; Column...

Anyone here STILL like RCP??? :D&lt;/I&gt;

It&#039;s not as bad as I first thought for Team Obama..

The RCP listed just the likely and lean, and put the SOLID at the top, which I missed..

So, all totaled it&#039;s 201 for Obama and 181 for Romney with 156 as toss-up..

But that&#039;s still a HUGE leap for Romney.  Most of it likely due to the first Obama/Romney debate..  When the Veep debate hits the masses, I wager that the leap will continue upwards...


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama has 59 Electoral College votes under the "LIKELY" and "LEAN" columns..</p>
<p>Romney has 105 Electoral College votes under the "LIKELY" and "LEAN" columns..</p>
<p>156 Electoral Votes are in the "TOSS UP" Column...</p>
<p>Anyone here STILL like RCP??? :D</i></p>
<p>It's not as bad as I first thought for Team Obama..</p>
<p>The RCP listed just the likely and lean, and put the SOLID at the top, which I missed..</p>
<p>So, all totaled it's 201 for Obama and 181 for Romney with 156 as toss-up..</p>
<p>But that's still a HUGE leap for Romney.  Most of it likely due to the first Obama/Romney debate..  When the Veep debate hits the masses, I wager that the leap will continue upwards...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 03:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Chris ... it&#039;s nearly midnight here in the eastern time zone and I can&#039;t wait much longer for the next piece ... guess I&#039;ll catch it later ... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Chris ... it's nearly midnight here in the eastern time zone and I can't wait much longer for the next piece ... guess I'll catch it later ... :(</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 01:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe&#039;s been doing a nice job up &#039;til now, but he&#039;s gotta stop interrupting and chuckling, etc. He&#039;s coming across as smug. Like a big blowhard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe's been doing a nice job up 'til now, but he's gotta stop interrupting and chuckling, etc. He's coming across as smug. Like a big blowhard.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember that a lot of people here like the REAL CLEAR POLITICS polls...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

Obama has 59 Electoral College votes under the &quot;LIKELY&quot; and &quot;LEAN&quot; columns..

Romney has 105 Electoral College votes under the &quot;LIKELY&quot; and &quot;LEAN&quot; columns..

156 Electoral Votes are in the &quot;TOSS UP&quot; Column...

Anyone here &lt;B&gt;STILL&lt;/B&gt; like RCP???  :D

Michale....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember that a lot of people here like the REAL CLEAR POLITICS polls...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html</a></p>
<p>Obama has 59 Electoral College votes under the "LIKELY" and "LEAN" columns..</p>
<p>Romney has 105 Electoral College votes under the "LIKELY" and "LEAN" columns..</p>
<p>156 Electoral Votes are in the "TOSS UP" Column...</p>
<p>Anyone here <b>STILL</b> like RCP???  :D</p>
<p>Michale....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/10/veep-debate-ready-to-rumble/#comment-27853</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of out-sourcing...

My friend Mo has been feeling depressed of late....

So, he called a suicide-prevention hotline.  The hotline had been outsourced to a Call Center in Pakistan...

He told them that he was suicidal..

They got excited and asked if he could drive a truck....   


:D


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of out-sourcing...</p>
<p>My friend Mo has been feeling depressed of late....</p>
<p>So, he called a suicide-prevention hotline.  The hotline had been outsourced to a Call Center in Pakistan...</p>
<p>He told them that he was suicidal..</p>
<p>They got excited and asked if he could drive a truck....   </p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
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		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 15:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is how I&#039;d present the financial situation in America to the lay person in a 2 minute window during a debate:

&#039;I want to describe my plan in an analogy.  Let&#039;s say you have $100 on a credit card that your irresponsible son, let&#039;s call him Beorge Gush, ran up.  Well Mr Romney/Ryan and I have a vastly different plan as to how to pay that $100 off.

My plan is to go to my boss - you the taxpayer - and say you know that pay cut for millionaires that we had under George Bush in 2001?  Well it doesn&#039;t seem to have done much, we think it&#039;s time to stop giving them a hand-out.  We want to raise $30 of revenue using this method which will go towards this $100 then pay off the other $70 slowly - over time - so it won&#039;t badly affect the economy.  Things like ending the war in Afghanistan - there&#039;s another $10 towards the $100. 

Now let&#039;s compare this plan firstly to what&#039;s happening across the pond.  In Europe they decided the only way to pay off the $100 was austerity - basically cut the entire $100 out immediately, not slowly over time.  As you have seen in the news it has been disastrous for the EU economies as they&#039;ve slipped back into recession.

Think that&#039;s bad?  Well I haven&#039;t got to the part about what Mr Romney/Ryan want to do yet!  First of all they want to go to their boss - the taxpayer - and say &#039;we are really struggling to pay the bills, can we have a pay cut?&#039;.  This pay cut will be through decreased taxes - but wait!  Not decreased taxes on everyone - only millionaires.  The rest of you?  Not so lucky.  Pay cuts for everyone, except millionaires.

So with this pay cut the $100 they owe becomes $150.  $5 trillion is added on to the debt.  But wait!  They&#039;re not done there.  They want to increase the size of Government by giving the military a couple of trillion dollars that they don&#039;t need.  That&#039;s another $20 onto the tab making it $170.  

So they&#039;ve taken the credit card balance of $100 and already they have turned it into $170.  That&#039;s the maths and arithmetic of the situation.  Now how do they plan on dealing with this $170?  Well the answer is to do what Europe did but an even MORE extreme version of austerity.  Gut regulations; gut healthcare; gut Medicare and Medicaid; gut education; fire teachers, firemen, police officers.  They want to take the safety net and turn it into a safety string.

As you can see what they are proposing is dangerous to the entire economic country, dangerous for the country and dangerous for the worldwide economic recovery. They can not be allowed to succeed.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is how I'd present the financial situation in America to the lay person in a 2 minute window during a debate:</p>
<p>'I want to describe my plan in an analogy.  Let's say you have $100 on a credit card that your irresponsible son, let's call him Beorge Gush, ran up.  Well Mr Romney/Ryan and I have a vastly different plan as to how to pay that $100 off.</p>
<p>My plan is to go to my boss - you the taxpayer - and say you know that pay cut for millionaires that we had under George Bush in 2001?  Well it doesn't seem to have done much, we think it's time to stop giving them a hand-out.  We want to raise $30 of revenue using this method which will go towards this $100 then pay off the other $70 slowly - over time - so it won't badly affect the economy.  Things like ending the war in Afghanistan - there's another $10 towards the $100. </p>
<p>Now let's compare this plan firstly to what's happening across the pond.  In Europe they decided the only way to pay off the $100 was austerity - basically cut the entire $100 out immediately, not slowly over time.  As you have seen in the news it has been disastrous for the EU economies as they've slipped back into recession.</p>
<p>Think that's bad?  Well I haven't got to the part about what Mr Romney/Ryan want to do yet!  First of all they want to go to their boss - the taxpayer - and say 'we are really struggling to pay the bills, can we have a pay cut?'.  This pay cut will be through decreased taxes - but wait!  Not decreased taxes on everyone - only millionaires.  The rest of you?  Not so lucky.  Pay cuts for everyone, except millionaires.</p>
<p>So with this pay cut the $100 they owe becomes $150.  $5 trillion is added on to the debt.  But wait!  They're not done there.  They want to increase the size of Government by giving the military a couple of trillion dollars that they don't need.  That's another $20 onto the tab making it $170.  </p>
<p>So they've taken the credit card balance of $100 and already they have turned it into $170.  That's the maths and arithmetic of the situation.  Now how do they plan on dealing with this $170?  Well the answer is to do what Europe did but an even MORE extreme version of austerity.  Gut regulations; gut healthcare; gut Medicare and Medicaid; gut education; fire teachers, firemen, police officers.  They want to take the safety net and turn it into a safety string.</p>
<p>As you can see what they are proposing is dangerous to the entire economic country, dangerous for the country and dangerous for the worldwide economic recovery. They can not be allowed to succeed.'</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
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		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic but: wow weekly jobless claims fell &lt;B&gt;8%&lt;/B&gt; this week.  At this rate the unemployment rate is going to be the same as it was when Reagan was re-elected in a super-landslide ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic but: wow weekly jobless claims fell <b>8%</b> this week.  At this rate the unemployment rate is going to be the same as it was when Reagan was re-elected in a super-landslide ;)</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
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		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well apparently the problem with Obama is that apparently calling your opponent a liar, when he changes every single policy he&#039;s held in the last 2 years, is seen as &#039;un-Presidential&#039;.  Biden doesn&#039;t have this to hold him back.  I hope he lets go big time on the tirade of la-la-land nonsense that has been coming out of Romney/Ryan&#039;s mouth during and since the Presidential debate.

I am almost certain Ryan will attempt to Gish-Gallop Biden in the same way Romney did to Obama.  I get the feeling it will not be as effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well apparently the problem with Obama is that apparently calling your opponent a liar, when he changes every single policy he's held in the last 2 years, is seen as 'un-Presidential'.  Biden doesn't have this to hold him back.  I hope he lets go big time on the tirade of la-la-land nonsense that has been coming out of Romney/Ryan's mouth during and since the Presidential debate.</p>
<p>I am almost certain Ryan will attempt to Gish-Gallop Biden in the same way Romney did to Obama.  I get the feeling it will not be as effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 01:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The good news for the Left is that if ol&#039; Joe can manage to keep Foot-A out of Mouth-B, the press will hail him the hands-down winner, no matter how well Ryan does. So at least you&#039;ve got that to look forward to. Biden can be a very disciplined guy when he has to be. So I think he&#039;ll do very well.

As for O, he&#039;s gotta come out swinging like an animal in Round Two. He&#039;s got no other choice. Don&#039;t know how well the &quot;liar&quot; strategy is gonna serve him and Team-O in the end, but I hear that&#039;s the route they&#039;re taking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news for the Left is that if ol' Joe can manage to keep Foot-A out of Mouth-B, the press will hail him the hands-down winner, no matter how well Ryan does. So at least you've got that to look forward to. Biden can be a very disciplined guy when he has to be. So I think he'll do very well.</p>
<p>As for O, he's gotta come out swinging like an animal in Round Two. He's got no other choice. Don't know how well the "liar" strategy is gonna serve him and Team-O in the end, but I hear that's the route they're taking.</p>
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