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		<title>By: Chris Weigant: 2012 Electoral Math &#8212; Obama&#39;s Debate Cliff - Quest NNY</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back to our now-weekly Electoral Math column series. In the introduction to last week&#8217;s column, I warned that the full effects of the first televised presidential debate had yet to fully appear. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant: 2012 Electoral Math &#8212; Obama&#8217;s Debate Cliff &#124; The Penn Ave Post</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chris Weigant   Welcome back to our now-weekly Electoral Math column series. In the introduction to last week&#8217;s column, I warned that the full effects of the first televised presidential debate had yet to fully appear. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; 2012 Electoral Math -- Obama&#39;s Debate Cliff</title>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27896</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I have a link to some NEW vile coments made by the Left. Warning: They&#039;re downright disturbing.

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/12/left-wing-sicko-hopes-someone-impregnates-paul-ryans-13-year-old-daughter/
&lt;/I&gt;

Ya know, this really doesn&#039;t bother me, beyond the natural disgust that ANY human being would feel..

What REALLY bothers me is that no one on the Left takes this kind of garbage to task, UNLESS it comes from the Right..

What really REALLY bothers me is that the Left pretends that THEY are all goodness and light and it&#039;s only the RIGHT who wallows in this kind of crap...

But, as usual, the facts say different...

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have a link to some NEW vile coments made by the Left. Warning: They're downright disturbing.</p>
<p><a href="http://twitchy.com/2012/10/12/left-wing-sicko-hopes-someone-impregnates-paul-ryans-13-year-old-daughter/" rel="nofollow">http://twitchy.com/2012/10/12/left-wing-sicko-hopes-someone-impregnates-paul-ryans-13-year-old-daughter/</a><br />
</i></p>
<p>Ya know, this really doesn't bother me, beyond the natural disgust that ANY human being would feel..</p>
<p>What REALLY bothers me is that no one on the Left takes this kind of garbage to task, UNLESS it comes from the Right..</p>
<p>What really REALLY bothers me is that the Left pretends that THEY are all goodness and light and it's only the RIGHT who wallows in this kind of crap...</p>
<p>But, as usual, the facts say different...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27885</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a link to some NEW vile coments made by the Left. Warning: They&#039;re downright disturbing.

http://twitchy.com/2012/10/12/left-wing-sicko-hopes-someone-impregnates-paul-ryans-13-year-old-daughter/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a link to some NEW vile coments made by the Left. Warning: They're downright disturbing.</p>
<p><a href="http://twitchy.com/2012/10/12/left-wing-sicko-hopes-someone-impregnates-paul-ryans-13-year-old-daughter/" rel="nofollow">http://twitchy.com/2012/10/12/left-wing-sicko-hopes-someone-impregnates-paul-ryans-13-year-old-daughter/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27865</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Does anyone have any links from Left Wing blogs/sites/commentaries that condemn the vile and racist treatment of Dash and Love???&lt;/I&gt;

I didn&#039;t think so....

{sssiiiigggggghhhhhhh}

That&#039;s really a shame...

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does anyone have any links from Left Wing blogs/sites/commentaries that condemn the vile and racist treatment of Dash and Love???</i></p>
<p>I didn't think so....</p>
<p>{sssiiiigggggghhhhhhh}</p>
<p>That's really a shame...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27835</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 09:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;You might want to reconsider your example. Fluke not only condemned the comments, I think she actually called Dash up personally. I can provide a link, just too rushed right now.&lt;/I&gt;

If true, that is to her credit...  

But that doesn&#039;t excuse the hypocrisy from Team Obama over this???

That doesn&#039;t excuse the silence from the Left in general..

Where&#039;s the condemnation from everyone here??  

If you are a black woman who supports a conservative candidate or philosophy, you are vilified in the most vile and racist manner imaginable.

And the Left (from President Obama on up to everyone here) seems to be OK because, after all, silence gives assent...

The Left would go utterly and ballisticly batshit if a Democrat was treated in such a manner by the Right..  Not that it has ever happened in recent history, but if it had, the Left would lose their minds.

Yet, when elements of the Hysterical Left acts in such a vile, disgusting and racist manner, the Left overall, doesn&#039;t say diddly...

So, the ONLY logical conclusion is that the Left really isn&#039;t against racism at all..  The Left is just against racism when it comes from the Right.  When racism comes from the Left, it&#039;s A-OK with the Left.

It&#039;s the ONLY explanation that fits the facts...

But, I am willing to admit I am wrong.  I am hoping like hell that I *AM* wrong..

Does anyone have any link&lt;B&gt;s&lt;/B&gt; from Left Wing blogs/sites/commentaries that condemn the vile and racist treatment of Dash and Love???

Michale......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You might want to reconsider your example. Fluke not only condemned the comments, I think she actually called Dash up personally. I can provide a link, just too rushed right now.</i></p>
<p>If true, that is to her credit...  </p>
<p>But that doesn't excuse the hypocrisy from Team Obama over this???</p>
<p>That doesn't excuse the silence from the Left in general..</p>
<p>Where's the condemnation from everyone here??  </p>
<p>If you are a black woman who supports a conservative candidate or philosophy, you are vilified in the most vile and racist manner imaginable.</p>
<p>And the Left (from President Obama on up to everyone here) seems to be OK because, after all, silence gives assent...</p>
<p>The Left would go utterly and ballisticly batshit if a Democrat was treated in such a manner by the Right..  Not that it has ever happened in recent history, but if it had, the Left would lose their minds.</p>
<p>Yet, when elements of the Hysterical Left acts in such a vile, disgusting and racist manner, the Left overall, doesn't say diddly...</p>
<p>So, the ONLY logical conclusion is that the Left really isn't against racism at all..  The Left is just against racism when it comes from the Right.  When racism comes from the Left, it's A-OK with the Left.</p>
<p>It's the ONLY explanation that fits the facts...</p>
<p>But, I am willing to admit I am wrong.  I am hoping like hell that I *AM* wrong..</p>
<p>Does anyone have any link<b>s</b> from Left Wing blogs/sites/commentaries that condemn the vile and racist treatment of Dash and Love???</p>
<p>Michale......</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 00:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michale [17, 18] -

I&#039;m in the middle of posting today&#039;s article, just have a second...

You might want to reconsider your example.  Fluke not only condemned the comments, I think she actually called Dash up personally.  I can provide a link, just too rushed right now.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michale [17, 18] -</p>
<p>I'm in the middle of posting today's article, just have a second...</p>
<p>You might want to reconsider your example.  Fluke not only condemned the comments, I think she actually called Dash up personally.  I can provide a link, just too rushed right now.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27819</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As hard as it may be to believe, I can forgive Obama a lot of things...

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/confirmed-obama-sent-same-form-letter-to-parents-of-all-fallen-soldiers-marines-seals/

But not that.....


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As hard as it may be to believe, I can forgive Obama a lot of things...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/confirmed-obama-sent-same-form-letter-to-parents-of-all-fallen-soldiers-marines-seals/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/confirmed-obama-sent-same-form-letter-to-parents-of-all-fallen-soldiers-marines-seals/</a></p>
<p>But not that.....</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27818</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Where is the condemnation from the Left???&lt;/I&gt;

I mean, Obama called up Fluke when she was attacked by the Right....

Is Obama going to call up Dash???  I mean, after all, there are no RED states, no BLUE states, only UNITED states....

Right????

On the plus side....  At least Obama didn&#039;t refuse to buy Dash a beer...  

(lame, I know, but that&#039;s all I could come up with...  :D)

Michale......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Where is the condemnation from the Left???</i></p>
<p>I mean, Obama called up Fluke when she was attacked by the Right....</p>
<p>Is Obama going to call up Dash???  I mean, after all, there are no RED states, no BLUE states, only UNITED states....</p>
<p>Right????</p>
<p>On the plus side....  At least Obama didn't refuse to buy Dash a beer...  </p>
<p>(lame, I know, but that's all I could come up with...  :D)</p>
<p>Michale......</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27817</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/09/actress_stacey_dash_on_receiving_racist_hate_for_supporting_romney.html

Where is the condemnation from the Left???


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/09/actress_stacey_dash_on_receiving_racist_hate_for_supporting_romney.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/09/actress_stacey_dash_on_receiving_racist_hate_for_supporting_romney.html</a></p>
<p>Where is the condemnation from the Left???</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27811</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 13:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In keeping with my old-but-re-affirmed fair and balanced attitude...  :D

&lt;I&gt;foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/09/ap-publishes-unflattering-pic-romney-bending-over/&lt;/I&gt;


AP is no more or no less guilty of political bias than the Right was when the Right made an issue of this picture from Obama..

&lt;I&gt;oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97675_Barack-Obama-staring-at-Mayora-Tavares1.jpg&lt;/I&gt;


In other words, we&#039;ve got a lot of problems MUCH bigger than this...


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In keeping with my old-but-re-affirmed fair and balanced attitude...  :D</p>
<p><i>foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/09/ap-publishes-unflattering-pic-romney-bending-over/</i></p>
<p>AP is no more or no less guilty of political bias than the Right was when the Right made an issue of this picture from Obama..</p>
<p><i>oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97675_Barack-Obama-staring-at-Mayora-Tavares1.jpg</i></p>
<p>In other words, we've got a lot of problems MUCH bigger than this...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27807</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 12:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as the Jobs Report numbers.....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444897304578046260406091012.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Do I believe that the Obama Administration would cook the books to make Obama look better??

Abso-frakin-loutly...

Do I believe they did it in this case.  

No I don&#039;t...  They would be stoopid to do it for the exact reasons that we have seen.  They would be caught......

But, that&#039;s not really the issue...  The issue, I believe, is the idea that the Right is being crazy just SUGGESTING it..

Postulate a scenario where President Bush had just gotten royally shellacked in a debate by a Democrat opponent..

Further postulate that, a couple days later, an unprecedented and nearly impossible drop or rise in a statistic that benefited Bush occurred...

Is it outside the realm of possibility that the entire Left would react in the exact same manner the Right acted in the here and now??  Back in 2003, a current Obama official himself suggested that the Bush Administration had &quot;cooked the books&quot; in response to a favorable Unemployment figure.

I think it&#039;s safe to say that we ALL agree that the Left would react in the exact same manner that the Right has, given the same set of circumstances...

In other words, while it&#039;s unlikely that Team Obama would really cook the books, the suggestion that the books COULD be cooked is not the hysterical irrational paranoia that some would make it out to be...

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the Jobs Report numbers.....</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444897304578046260406091012.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444897304578046260406091012.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop</a></p>
<p>Do I believe that the Obama Administration would cook the books to make Obama look better??</p>
<p>Abso-frakin-loutly...</p>
<p>Do I believe they did it in this case.  </p>
<p>No I don't...  They would be stoopid to do it for the exact reasons that we have seen.  They would be caught......</p>
<p>But, that's not really the issue...  The issue, I believe, is the idea that the Right is being crazy just SUGGESTING it..</p>
<p>Postulate a scenario where President Bush had just gotten royally shellacked in a debate by a Democrat opponent..</p>
<p>Further postulate that, a couple days later, an unprecedented and nearly impossible drop or rise in a statistic that benefited Bush occurred...</p>
<p>Is it outside the realm of possibility that the entire Left would react in the exact same manner the Right acted in the here and now??  Back in 2003, a current Obama official himself suggested that the Bush Administration had "cooked the books" in response to a favorable Unemployment figure.</p>
<p>I think it's safe to say that we ALL agree that the Left would react in the exact same manner that the Right has, given the same set of circumstances...</p>
<p>In other words, while it's unlikely that Team Obama would really cook the books, the suggestion that the books COULD be cooked is not the hysterical irrational paranoia that some would make it out to be...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27803</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The University of Colorado has updated their predictions that are based on their algorithm that has accurately &quot;picked&quot; Electoral College picks 89% of the time...

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/10/04/updated-election-forecasting-model-still-points-romney-win-university

The updated prediction shows an even bigger win for Romney and was completed prior to the PR debacle that has hit Team Obama in the last few weeks...

It should be noted that this study is &lt;B&gt;*peer reviewed*&lt;/B&gt;...  

While *I* am of the opinion that the peer review process doesn&#039;t mean as much as it used to, I know that ya&#039;all are really big on the peer-review stamp, so that&#039;s why I mention it...

It should also be noted that this study of the Electoral College approach is the only one of it&#039;s kind in depth and broad spectrum analysis, which might explain why it&#039;s the only one that has this prediction.

Time will tell how accurate the prediction is, but if the algorithm is as accurate as it&#039;s past &quot;predictions&quot;, well.......   

An 89% success rate is hard to argue with...

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The University of Colorado has updated their predictions that are based on their algorithm that has accurately "picked" Electoral College picks 89% of the time...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/10/04/updated-election-forecasting-model-still-points-romney-win-university" rel="nofollow">http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/10/04/updated-election-forecasting-model-still-points-romney-win-university</a></p>
<p>The updated prediction shows an even bigger win for Romney and was completed prior to the PR debacle that has hit Team Obama in the last few weeks...</p>
<p>It should be noted that this study is <b>*peer reviewed*</b>...  </p>
<p>While *I* am of the opinion that the peer review process doesn't mean as much as it used to, I know that ya'all are really big on the peer-review stamp, so that's why I mention it...</p>
<p>It should also be noted that this study of the Electoral College approach is the only one of it's kind in depth and broad spectrum analysis, which might explain why it's the only one that has this prediction.</p>
<p>Time will tell how accurate the prediction is, but if the algorithm is as accurate as it's past "predictions", well.......   </p>
<p>An 89% success rate is hard to argue with...</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27802</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note...

http://news.yahoo.com/state-dept-reveals-details-benghazi-attack-062900114.html

It seems the official story from the Administration is more in keeping with the reality of what occurred in Benghazi..

There was no protest.  Everything was quiet when the attack happened...

This is a major black eye for the Administration&#039;s vaunted Foreign Policy prowess...

On the plus side, however, it IS heartening to see the Obama Administration come clean and tell the American people the truth about what occurred.  It&#039;s likely that Obama was under intense pressure to just ignore the incident and hope it fizzles out.  The fact that Team Obama told the truth, THIS close to the election, is a plus in the INTEGRITY column for Obama..


Michale....

COMMENT NOTE: From now until the election, I am going to try something new.  For every slam against the Obama Administration I post, I am going to also try and come up with something positive, something good that Obama has done..  Hopefully, this will show a more even keeled approach and give credit where credit is due.

We&#039;ll see how it works out...

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note...</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/state-dept-reveals-details-benghazi-attack-062900114.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/state-dept-reveals-details-benghazi-attack-062900114.html</a></p>
<p>It seems the official story from the Administration is more in keeping with the reality of what occurred in Benghazi..</p>
<p>There was no protest.  Everything was quiet when the attack happened...</p>
<p>This is a major black eye for the Administration's vaunted Foreign Policy prowess...</p>
<p>On the plus side, however, it IS heartening to see the Obama Administration come clean and tell the American people the truth about what occurred.  It's likely that Obama was under intense pressure to just ignore the incident and hope it fizzles out.  The fact that Team Obama told the truth, THIS close to the election, is a plus in the INTEGRITY column for Obama..</p>
<p>Michale....</p>
<p>COMMENT NOTE: From now until the election, I am going to try something new.  For every slam against the Obama Administration I post, I am going to also try and come up with something positive, something good that Obama has done..  Hopefully, this will show a more even keeled approach and give credit where credit is due.</p>
<p>We'll see how it works out...</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 11:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx CB...  

Very much appreciated...

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx CB...  </p>
<p>Very much appreciated...</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 02:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that, Chris. Check your email.</description>
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		<title>By: TheStig</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheStig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 01:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting observation, at least to me.

In tracking seven odds makers who predict the winner of the upcoming election (the 538 Blog plus six upstanding off-shore on-line betting establishments), I find surprisingly strong support for the old saw that Republicans can&#039;t win the Presidency without winning Ohio.

I&#039;ve stumbled onto a very simple, yet uncannily accurate, procedure for predicting the relationship between odds of victory in each of the 50 states and DC and the resulting chance of a candidate winning the electoral college. The math behind the observation is a bit complicated, but the procedure itself is very simple. 

In column one, rank order the states and DC by descending odds that Obama will carry that state on election day (column 2). In column 3, tabulate the electoral votes associated with each state, in column 4 compute the cumulative electoral votes as you descend column 3.  Now, trace your finger down column 4 until you meet or exceed 270 electoral votes.  Cross laterally to the probability for that row in column 2, which will almost always be very close to the probability the odds maker gives Obama for winning the election with 270+ electoral votes.

That state, or one of the states if there is a tie, is almost always Ohio! It seems some old saws are mostly true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting observation, at least to me.</p>
<p>In tracking seven odds makers who predict the winner of the upcoming election (the 538 Blog plus six upstanding off-shore on-line betting establishments), I find surprisingly strong support for the old saw that Republicans can't win the Presidency without winning Ohio.</p>
<p>I've stumbled onto a very simple, yet uncannily accurate, procedure for predicting the relationship between odds of victory in each of the 50 states and DC and the resulting chance of a candidate winning the electoral college. The math behind the observation is a bit complicated, but the procedure itself is very simple. </p>
<p>In column one, rank order the states and DC by descending odds that Obama will carry that state on election day (column 2). In column 3, tabulate the electoral votes associated with each state, in column 4 compute the cumulative electoral votes as you descend column 3.  Now, trace your finger down column 4 until you meet or exceed 270 electoral votes.  Cross laterally to the probability for that row in column 2, which will almost always be very close to the probability the odds maker gives Obama for winning the election with 270+ electoral votes.</p>
<p>That state, or one of the states if there is a tie, is almost always Ohio! It seems some old saws are mostly true.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 23:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris1962 -

See:

http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/04/debating-formats/#comment-27699

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris1962 -</p>
<p>See:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/04/debating-formats/#comment-27699" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/04/debating-formats/#comment-27699</a></p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I must&#039;ve missed something. Is everything okay, Michale? Evidently not. But whatever is going on, I&#039;m sending good vibes your way. xxxooo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I must've missed something. Is everything okay, Michale? Evidently not. But whatever is going on, I'm sending good vibes your way. xxxooo</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27786</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay everyone,

Although I am not quite ready to jump into commenting yet, but I just had to stop in and tell everyone how utterly appreciative I am of the support seen here. 

As much as I like to think of myself as emotionless and objective, I have to admit that the comments here brought a tear to my eye...

*All* the comments were appreciated, but I would like to give a sound-out to our host for his kind words and to Ninjaf for her especially touching comment.. 

It&#039;s heartening to see that, when the chips are down, Left, Right, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative doesn&#039;t mean diddly squat...

In the heated discussions that are sure to come in the future, I plan on keeping these last few days&#039; comments uppermost in my mind..

Thank you, one and all....

Michale</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay everyone,</p>
<p>Although I am not quite ready to jump into commenting yet, but I just had to stop in and tell everyone how utterly appreciative I am of the support seen here. </p>
<p>As much as I like to think of myself as emotionless and objective, I have to admit that the comments here brought a tear to my eye...</p>
<p>*All* the comments were appreciated, but I would like to give a sound-out to our host for his kind words and to Ninjaf for her especially touching comment.. </p>
<p>It's heartening to see that, when the chips are down, Left, Right, Democrat, Republican, Liberal, Conservative doesn't mean diddly squat...</p>
<p>In the heated discussions that are sure to come in the future, I plan on keeping these last few days' comments uppermost in my mind..</p>
<p>Thank you, one and all....</p>
<p>Michale</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
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		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, this is what people have been saying for months in the face of Republican criticism of these &#039;skewed&#039; polls: party affiliation in polls is very, very fluid!  Only Rasmussen actually skews their polls to adjust for their own perception of party affiliation, almost every single other pollster just reports what the people in their polls are actually saying about their affiliation.

Oh sorry I thought you were CW for a second there.  Well I&#039;ve written it out so I&#039;m posting it now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this is what people have been saying for months in the face of Republican criticism of these 'skewed' polls: party affiliation in polls is very, very fluid!  Only Rasmussen actually skews their polls to adjust for their own perception of party affiliation, almost every single other pollster just reports what the people in their polls are actually saying about their affiliation.</p>
<p>Oh sorry I thought you were CW for a second there.  Well I've written it out so I'm posting it now...</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 15:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice the shift Pew has made:

&lt;i&gt;The Pew poll&#039;s sample of likely voters included 36% who identified themselves as Republicans, 31% as Democrats and 30% as independents. Its September survey included 29% who said they lean more toward the Republican party, 39% Democratic and 30% who said they were independents.&lt;/i&gt;

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443294904578044993155023484.html?mod=WSJ_Election_LEFTTopStories</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice the shift Pew has made:</p>
<p><i>The Pew poll's sample of likely voters included 36% who identified themselves as Republicans, 31% as Democrats and 30% as independents. Its September survey included 29% who said they lean more toward the Republican party, 39% Democratic and 30% who said they were independents.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443294904578044993155023484.html?mod=WSJ_Election_LEFTTopStories" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443294904578044993155023484.html?mod=WSJ_Election_LEFTTopStories</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/10/08/2012-electoral-math-debate-effects-remain-to-be-seen/#comment-27771</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK folks, [especially new commenter &lt;strong&gt;mikesamerica&lt;/strong&gt;] -

I realize I&#039;ve been slack once again, but I just went back and answered comments reaching all the way to last Monday, so go check and see what I&#039;ve had to say about the past week&#039;s free-for-all.

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK folks, [especially new commenter <strong>mikesamerica</strong>] -</p>
<p>I realize I've been slack once again, but I just went back and answered comments reaching all the way to last Monday, so go check and see what I've had to say about the past week's free-for-all.</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 06:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michty6 -

I really need to add a &quot;this is my source&quot; bit to this column series.  My data is from electoral-vote.com.

tinsldr2 -

See my response over at HuffPo, where I mention your reliance on &quot;Romney math&quot;... your numbers just don&#039;t add up, sorry.

First case: adds up to 266EV for Romney.  

Second case: adds up to 269EV for Romney.

270&#039;s the mark to hit...

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michty6 -</p>
<p>I really need to add a "this is my source" bit to this column series.  My data is from electoral-vote.com.</p>
<p>tinsldr2 -</p>
<p>See my response over at HuffPo, where I mention your reliance on "Romney math"... your numbers just don't add up, sorry.</p>
<p>First case: adds up to 266EV for Romney.  </p>
<p>Second case: adds up to 269EV for Romney.</p>
<p>270's the mark to hit...</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: tinsldr2</title>
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		<dc:creator>tinsldr2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 02:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double posted on Huffpo because my stuff does not always post there.


You slay me not giving the numbers?  I use RCP averages:

NH  Obama 6
MO Romney 5.2
NV  Obama 4.6
IA    Obama 3.2
OH   Obama 3.0
NC    Romney .8
VA    Obama .3
CO  Obama .2
FL   Tie

So assuming NH, MO, and NV don&#039;t change that is 257 to 191 

That means Romney needs to win OH, VA, NC, and FL and can lose IA and CO  

or Romney needs to win IA VA, NC, FL and CO and NEVADA,  and can lose OH

But OH is really the one to watch and the 3% Obama lead includes a pre-debate +8  Obama and +4 obama poll and two post Debate polls that are +1 R and +1 O (although one of those was slanted R)

So OH is closer to Romney then it looks and trending.  

Bottom line the national Polls are closer to the states and the race is FAR from over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double posted on Huffpo because my stuff does not always post there.</p>
<p>You slay me not giving the numbers?  I use RCP averages:</p>
<p>NH  Obama 6<br />
MO Romney 5.2<br />
NV  Obama 4.6<br />
IA    Obama 3.2<br />
OH   Obama 3.0<br />
NC    Romney .8<br />
VA    Obama .3<br />
CO  Obama .2<br />
FL   Tie</p>
<p>So assuming NH, MO, and NV don't change that is 257 to 191 </p>
<p>That means Romney needs to win OH, VA, NC, and FL and can lose IA and CO  </p>
<p>or Romney needs to win IA VA, NC, FL and CO and NEVADA,  and can lose OH</p>
<p>But OH is really the one to watch and the 3% Obama lead includes a pre-debate +8  Obama and +4 obama poll and two post Debate polls that are +1 R and +1 O (although one of those was slanted R)</p>
<p>So OH is closer to Romney then it looks and trending.  </p>
<p>Bottom line the national Polls are closer to the states and the race is FAR from over.</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
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		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2012 01:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the problem is that at this time of the election campaign just as the debate noise is flushed out - around Thurs this week - there is another major event to introduce more noise!

There is no doubt Romney got a bump and right-leaning pollsters were (obviously) quick to accentuate it, making analyzing the effect harder.

I don&#039;t know how your EV analysis doesn&#039;t see it more clearly though CW.  Most EV analysis I looked at before the debate was starting to get to the point where STRONG Obama was &gt;270.  Now, post debate, Obama is at the point where strong + leaning is now only just around 270 (your graph does show this but it doesn&#039;t show the peak in Strong Obama that happened pre-debate).

Other bumps, just to pick a few I follow:
- Sam Wang @ Princeton Election: Obama pre-debate 6% &#039;meta (EV) edge&#039;; post 2.2%.
- Nate Silver @ 538: Obama pre-debate around 85% probability to win the Electoral College; post-debate 75%.
- RCP average was around Obama +3.1 pre-debate and is now +0.5 post-debate.

Funnily enough today I have seen people complaining that RCP is right-leaning because of their treatment of the Gallup poll  (ignoring the entire poll being +5 Obama by only including in their average the part of the poll that is post-debate - they have never done this before).  I expect the shift to Democrats believing pollsters are biased instead of Republicans to be totally complete if Romney (at last) manages to obtain a lead in the national average on RCP in 2012 for the first time!

Personally I think Obama was +3-4% (in Electoral College EV) pre-debate and is probably around 1-2% post debate/job numbers.

The problem Romney has is that Romney v.8.0 (or whatever version he is at now) from the debates appears to be liked (at last!) but he may have changed his position on every single policy too late...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the problem is that at this time of the election campaign just as the debate noise is flushed out - around Thurs this week - there is another major event to introduce more noise!</p>
<p>There is no doubt Romney got a bump and right-leaning pollsters were (obviously) quick to accentuate it, making analyzing the effect harder.</p>
<p>I don't know how your EV analysis doesn't see it more clearly though CW.  Most EV analysis I looked at before the debate was starting to get to the point where STRONG Obama was &gt;270.  Now, post debate, Obama is at the point where strong + leaning is now only just around 270 (your graph does show this but it doesn't show the peak in Strong Obama that happened pre-debate).</p>
<p>Other bumps, just to pick a few I follow:<br />
- Sam Wang @ Princeton Election: Obama pre-debate 6% 'meta (EV) edge'; post 2.2%.<br />
- Nate Silver @ 538: Obama pre-debate around 85% probability to win the Electoral College; post-debate 75%.<br />
- RCP average was around Obama +3.1 pre-debate and is now +0.5 post-debate.</p>
<p>Funnily enough today I have seen people complaining that RCP is right-leaning because of their treatment of the Gallup poll  (ignoring the entire poll being +5 Obama by only including in their average the part of the poll that is post-debate - they have never done this before).  I expect the shift to Democrats believing pollsters are biased instead of Republicans to be totally complete if Romney (at last) manages to obtain a lead in the national average on RCP in 2012 for the first time!</p>
<p>Personally I think Obama was +3-4% (in Electoral College EV) pre-debate and is probably around 1-2% post debate/job numbers.</p>
<p>The problem Romney has is that Romney v.8.0 (or whatever version he is at now) from the debates appears to be liked (at last!) but he may have changed his position on every single policy too late...</p>
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