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		<title>By: ChrisWeigant.com &#187; 2012 Electoral Math -- Pre-Convention Baseline</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-25499</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisWeigant.com &#187; 2012 Electoral Math -- Pre-Convention Baseline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last time we took a look at the math was two weeks ago (the vertical lines in the charts show the dates of these columns). In that time period, Romney [...]</description>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24888</link>
		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha Bashi I didn&#039;t see your comment before I wrote mine btw ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha Bashi I didn't see your comment before I wrote mine btw ;)</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24887</link>
		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW - FWIW most analysis I have seen comes to the conclusion that, depending on the persons approval rating, the VP adds 1-2% points on to the Candidates ticket in the VP&#039;s home state.  Given how badly Romney is doing in the electoral college and the fact he is no doubt aware of this, I&#039;d be absolutely shocked if the VP isn&#039;t from one of the main few battleground states - VA included.

NBC is saying with &#039;high confidence&#039; the VP pick is down to 3:  Tim Pawlenty, Rob Portman or Paul Ryan.  If this is true, then, based on what I just said, my money is definitely on Portman!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW - FWIW most analysis I have seen comes to the conclusion that, depending on the persons approval rating, the VP adds 1-2% points on to the Candidates ticket in the VP's home state.  Given how badly Romney is doing in the electoral college and the fact he is no doubt aware of this, I'd be absolutely shocked if the VP isn't from one of the main few battleground states - VA included.</p>
<p>NBC is saying with 'high confidence' the VP pick is down to 3:  Tim Pawlenty, Rob Portman or Paul Ryan.  If this is true, then, based on what I just said, my money is definitely on Portman!</p>
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24885</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, according to the number of recent Wikipedia profile edits, the VP pick is likely to be Rob Portman, OH.

Both Biden and Palin had a bunch of touch up edits to wikipedia right before they were picked and of the VP short list, Portman has, by far, the most edits recently. Or maybe they have caught on and it&#039;s just redirection...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, according to the number of recent Wikipedia profile edits, the VP pick is likely to be Rob Portman, OH.</p>
<p>Both Biden and Palin had a bunch of touch up edits to wikipedia right before they were picked and of the VP short list, Portman has, by far, the most edits recently. Or maybe they have caught on and it's just redirection...</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24881</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mea Culpa:

Oh, and there&#039;s a minor mistake at the end.  Georgia has a more recent poll, forgot to update the &quot;old polls&quot; list.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mea Culpa:</p>
<p>Oh, and there's a minor mistake at the end.  Georgia has a more recent poll, forgot to update the "old polls" list.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24880</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris1962 -

Yeah, I wrote most of this Tuesday night, and had to quickly adjust for some changes Wednesday morning.  The Colorado polls hadn&#039;t shown up yet, so they weren&#039;t included in this analysis.  Good eye!

If I was writing it today, I&#039;d put CO in Too Close To Call.  If Romney gets another few good polls here, I&#039;d move it to Lean Romney, but it&#039;ll likely stay in TCTC for a while.

michty6 -

WI showed a poll less than 5%, that&#039;s why it got into Barely.  Today, it has moved back to Weak.  Down in the &quot;gut feel&quot; part, I have it as Lean Obama, but if a few more solid +5 polls come in, it&#039;ll move up to Probable.

As for Veep, I think it could also come from VA.  Or even NM, for a surprise.  But choosing VA would put the state a lot closer to Romney, I would think.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris1962 -</p>
<p>Yeah, I wrote most of this Tuesday night, and had to quickly adjust for some changes Wednesday morning.  The Colorado polls hadn't shown up yet, so they weren't included in this analysis.  Good eye!</p>
<p>If I was writing it today, I'd put CO in Too Close To Call.  If Romney gets another few good polls here, I'd move it to Lean Romney, but it'll likely stay in TCTC for a while.</p>
<p>michty6 -</p>
<p>WI showed a poll less than 5%, that's why it got into Barely.  Today, it has moved back to Weak.  Down in the "gut feel" part, I have it as Lean Obama, but if a few more solid +5 polls come in, it'll move up to Probable.</p>
<p>As for Veep, I think it could also come from VA.  Or even NM, for a surprise.  But choosing VA would put the state a lot closer to Romney, I would think.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24871</link>
		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, on the Florida issue: I&#039;d be shocked if Romney&#039;s VP pick isn&#039;t from Florida (or Ohio) because he knows that he doesn&#039;t win the election without either of these...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, on the Florida issue: I'd be shocked if Romney's VP pick isn't from Florida (or Ohio) because he knows that he doesn't win the election without either of these...</p>
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		<title>By: michty6</title>
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		<dc:creator>michty6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW
Solid analysis, I remember this is why I came to your blog in the first place!

One query:

&lt;I&gt;&quot;Wisconsin and Virginia weakened even further, moving from Weak to Barely Obama.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Why you have moved Wisconsin this way?  All polling out recently indicates otherwise.  Last 6 polls have Obama +5, +6, +3, +7, +6.  I&#039;d say this is moving toward probable, not barely Obama...

Aside from this, I agree with the premise that both have shored up their support very well - I guess this is what happens in an election during a time when the electorate is very polarised.  The battleground states appear to be shrinking in number.

But on the electoral college front, July was a very bad month for Romney.  Only Missouri moved his way in the battleground states, everything else went Obama.  And even in the national polls Obama is now +3.9 on the RCP average which is higher than he was at this point 4 years ago vs McCain (+3.6)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW<br />
Solid analysis, I remember this is why I came to your blog in the first place!</p>
<p>One query:</p>
<p><i>"Wisconsin and Virginia weakened even further, moving from Weak to Barely Obama."</i></p>
<p>Why you have moved Wisconsin this way?  All polling out recently indicates otherwise.  Last 6 polls have Obama +5, +6, +3, +7, +6.  I'd say this is moving toward probable, not barely Obama...</p>
<p>Aside from this, I agree with the premise that both have shored up their support very well - I guess this is what happens in an election during a time when the electorate is very polarised.  The battleground states appear to be shrinking in number.</p>
<p>But on the electoral college front, July was a very bad month for Romney.  Only Missouri moved his way in the battleground states, everything else went Obama.  And even in the national polls Obama is now +3.9 on the RCP average which is higher than he was at this point 4 years ago vs McCain (+3.6)</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/08/08/2012-electoral-math-ups-and-downs/#comment-24868</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris1962,

I&#039;m sure you have a point to make with respect to that link you provided so why don&#039;t you just try to make it?

You should know that I don&#039;t make a habit out of clicking on drive-by links. And, besides, I&#039;m far more interested in what you have to say about it. Perhaps we may even have an intelligent discussion. Stranger things have happened, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris1962,</p>
<p>I'm sure you have a point to make with respect to that link you provided so why don't you just try to make it?</p>
<p>You should know that I don't make a habit out of clicking on drive-by links. And, besides, I'm far more interested in what you have to say about it. Perhaps we may even have an intelligent discussion. Stranger things have happened, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Relying mostly on gut feeling for the final groups, there now seem to be five states leaning towards Obama, but not comfortably in his column quite yet. Colorado...&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, I don&#039;t know about Colorado at this point, CW. There&#039;s been some activity there, lately. Quinnipiac&#039;s got Romney ahead by five points, and Rasmussen has them tied. And both are Likely Voters. So I&#039;m not even sure that state can be considered a leaner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Relying mostly on gut feeling for the final groups, there now seem to be five states leaning towards Obama, but not comfortably in his column quite yet. Colorado...</i></p>
<p>Yeah, I don't know about Colorado at this point, CW. There's been some activity there, lately. Quinnipiac's got Romney ahead by five points, and Rasmussen has them tied. And both are Likely Voters. So I'm not even sure that state can be considered a leaner.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris1962</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris1962</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 04:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emails: Geithner, Treasury drove cutoff of non-union Delphi workers’ pensions
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/emails-geithner-treasury-drove-cutoff-of-non-union-delphi-workers-pensions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emails: Geithner, Treasury drove cutoff of non-union Delphi workers’ pensions<br />
<a href="http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/emails-geithner-treasury-drove-cutoff-of-non-union-delphi-workers-pensions" rel="nofollow">http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/emails-geithner-treasury-drove-cutoff-of-non-union-delphi-workers-pensions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2012 01:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

My take away from all of this is that President Obama is likely to win a second term. That&#039;s the good news.

However, the next four years under the steady stewardship of Obama/Biden/Geithener(I&#039;m still hoping he sticks around in one form or another...call me a cockeyed optimist) is not likely to be substantially more effective than the first four years due to continued obstruction by the Republican cult of economic failure and foreign policy disaster as a result of the failure of Democrats to gain EFFECTIVE control of both houses of Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>My take away from all of this is that President Obama is likely to win a second term. That's the good news.</p>
<p>However, the next four years under the steady stewardship of Obama/Biden/Geithener(I'm still hoping he sticks around in one form or another...call me a cockeyed optimist) is not likely to be substantially more effective than the first four years due to continued obstruction by the Republican cult of economic failure and foreign policy disaster as a result of the failure of Democrats to gain EFFECTIVE control of both houses of Congress.</p>
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