i have absolutely no idea what the impact of condi rice being elected romney's vp might have on education. probably not much at all. if either she or biden became president, i'd venture to guess that they'd both be substantially better than their respective running mates, but that's really just conjecture. there's so much campaign money and publicity being devoted to policies destructive to public education in the US, it's hard to imagine any politician on the national stage really taking a stand.

Ironic..

I was just thinking the same thing about you... :D

My point is simple. To you, Liberal/Progressive is a religion... And like a fervent religious believer, anyone who believes differently is an apostate or a demon or, at best, suffering from "temper tantrums"...

I would be willing to wager that you simply cannot see ANYTHING good in ANYTHING coming from the Right...

It's different with me. I am not enslaved by political dogma or ideology. I can freely look at both sides of the aisle and determine what is good and what is bad in each..

Yea, I find a lot of good on the Right. That's because of my life experiences, training and expertise.

But I am enough of a human being to see the good in the Left too. Most of my beef of late with the Left is that they ESPOUSE and PREACH those good things, yet totally ignore them in their actions...

That's where I am coming from.

Michale...

Your hatred of Obama may, or may not, be irrational. I don't know, need to know, or want to know the details behind it. But your response is irrational.

You view Obams's every act as further proof of your "victimization" and that's irrational. You think everything he does is wrong and consider yourself objective. You cheerlead for a party that has done nothing and offers nothing simply because you think Obama didn't do what you wanted with no regard whatsoever as to whether it would make things worse for the country. You just want to put-down Obama, effective government is a secondary consideration, if even that, Just like the Republicans.

Petty, partisan, willfully ignorant, and self destructive——irrational with a bullet! I just wish your temper tantrum wasn't also a threat to me. Unfortunately since you've a few million like-minded fellows it is.

First off, there is absolutely NOTHING "irrational" in my hatred of Obama..

Just as there would be nothing "irrational" in your hatred of a person who lied to your face and spit on everything you believed in and supported them over.....

As long as your analysis isn't biased to simply the here and now, then I really don't have a problem with it..

Joshua,

From an Educators perspective, what's your take on Condi Rice for VP??

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/07/13/condoleezza-rice-as-romney-running-mate-would-be-2012-game-changer/

Michale.....

The electorate has been like that forever. As an example I present your insistence on seeing everything as partisan while claiming to be independent and your attempts to spin everything to validate your irrational hatred of Obama. There was nothing in my comment about either party, Obama, or Bush.

Touche' :D

Michale.....

that's not entirely true. romney got applause for criticizing the president's hypocrisy on education. romney's own stance is just as awful, however. he'll shoot education in the face instead of stabbing it in the back like obama has.

Its a truism that you can't solve a problem until you can identify it. Money in politics isn't the problem, we are the problem. And an uninformed, unsophisticated, and irrational electorate is the kiss a death for any democracy.

Just curious..

Was the electorate this way in 2008???

Joshua,

that in a nutshell explains why the obama administration has been so awful for teachers and teachers unions. in response to his incredibly harmful support of the privatization agenda, how did teacher unions respond? by their enthusiastic endorsement. *sigh*

Romney got a standing ovation from the NAACP (yea, THAT NAACP) for his stance on education...

Something to consider..

"Luke, your destiny is with the Dark Side"

:D

Michale.....

A Romney/Rice ticket would blow Team Obama out of the water.

It would be the biggest landslide since Reagan whipped Carter....

Michale.....

I have it on EXTREMELY powerful authorities that, ah, it ain't gonna be Condi.

This is one of those times when I hope you're wrong.. :D

Though, that would make for a very interesting vice presidential debate. :)

Condi would clean Ol' Joe's clock... :D

Michale.....

I have it on EXTREMELY powerful authorities that, ah, it ain't gonna be Condi.

Though, that would make for a very interesting vice presidential debate. :)

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashcm.htm

If Romney chooses Condi for VP, Obama might as well just pack it in and go home...

Michale.....

that in a nutshell explains why the obama administration has been so awful for teachers and teachers unions. in response to his incredibly harmful support of the privatization agenda, how did teacher unions respond? by their enthusiastic endorsement. *sigh*

And the only reason it works is because we have toothless laws regarding libel and slander coupled with an amazingly gullible electorate. As long as this is true candidates have no choice but to play the game. A game enabled by the media, encouraged by the media and which profits only the media.

Looking toward a constitutional amendment is whistling in the wind. It'll never happen. The media won't let it happen. The court won't let it happen. The Constitution is only a piece of paper. It can't protect anyone or anything. Its always been understood that if the people want to maintain any rights they would have to defend them.

But in our hyper-partisan uncompromisingly willful ignorance we'd rather be right than realistic. We'd rather win than be well-governed. We'd rather tear everyone down rather than lift everyone up and let others get ahead of us. And we expect others to solve our problems, without any help or effort from us, because we've no intention of taking personal responsibility ourselves for what our representatives do. Though we're more than willing to try to hurt them even if it hurts us too if we think we're not being catered to.

Its a truism that you can't solve a problem until you can identify it. Money in politics isn't the problem, we are the problem. And an uninformed, unsophisticated, and irrational electorate is the kiss a death for any democracy.

This is for all you CAT people out there.. :D

http://tinyurl.com/6tbctax

Michale.....

For the record, I know ya'all aren't saying that, exactly..

But it's undeniable that ya'all ARE advocating embracing SuperPACs, which is a difference only in magnitude..

I know, I know. Ya'alls argument is, "But Michale, what else can we do!??"

I don't know what the Left can do..

But it seems to me that standing by the principles the Left lays down would garner them MUCH more respect and goodwill from the American voters..

I mean, seriously..

When the Citizens United/SuperPACs ruling came down, the Left went apeshit, claiming that the ruling "was a threat to our Democracy!!"

Now, what's an Independent/NPA to think about the Left when the Left embraces SuperPACs??? Embraces this gross and perverse "threat to our Democracy"??

It seems to me that the Independents and NPAs are left with only two possibilities..

1. The Left lied when they claimed that SuperPACs were "a threat to our Democracy"...

or

B. If it will advance their agenda, the Left doesn't mind utilizing this "threat to our Democracy"...

Either option is unpalatable to an American considering voting for Democrats..

What can the Left do???

"If we are to be damned, let us be damned for what we really are."
-Captain Jean Luc Picard, STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION

Michale.....

The Left decried SuperPACs as the most evil of evils..

But then it hit them.

"Hay!! We can get money and influence doing it too!!"

And now, SuperPACs are the most goodest of the good... :D

It's tough being right so often.. :D

Don't get me wrong.. I completely understand where ya'all are coming from... It's the 'If you can't beat em, join em" mentality..

But, damn.. I caught a lot of flack for claiming that the Left will do exactly what the Left ended up doing..

It's hard as hell trying to figure out where ya'all's red lines are.. :D

Michale.....

You know, now that you ask, I'm not so sure. There are a bunch of IRS classifications like "503(c)" and the like, and some you can advocate only issues, and some candidates. But I've never actually dug into the details post-Citizens United. Maybe I should have checked before including that line...

-CW

They still have to avoid The Phrase? I thought that was thrown out, and the only thing that's forbidden is for the actual candidate to coordinate with their campaign.