I'll go to my grave getting that one backwards, too. ;D

You could if you were ever hired to "counsel" the "council"...

Yuk Yuk Yuk :D

Couldn't resist... :D

Michale....

I don't think that's representative of the norm. It's pretty standard practice to say "the government," when referring to the federal government, and "state government," or "city counsel," etc., when referring to other levels of government.

http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/NAACP-Empty-Hall.jpg

:D

Michale.....

She's got a point there, Bashi...

When people talk about the government in the context of the upcoming election and/or ObamaCare, it's not really a stretch to assume that the FEDERAL Government is the government mentioned...

When you hear "Senator Barack Obama" do you think Chicago State Senator or US Congress Senator??

On another note, I see that the Obama Campaign is still whining and crying about Romney's Tax Returns....

Romney could shut them up quite easily...

All he has to say is "I'll release the requested Tax Records as soon as President Obama releases the requested School Records"..

We KNOW that Obama will never do that.

So, that will end that particular discussion...

Michale.....

But can you prove that all the respondents to this poll took "government" to mean federal government? What percentages either way? How would it influence the poll outcome?

Do you stand behind the validity of this poll from a best practices rather than political belief standpoint?

According to whom?

Or do you have another general term to cover local, state as well as federal government?

People generally specify a state/local government they're referring to. Same way with titles: "Senator" refers to a U.S. Senator, unless you want to cite a state Senator, in which case you specify it. That's the general rule of thumb.

With 65% citing government involvement, in general, as the cause, including the president (27%) and congress (26%), who passed CrapCare? No.

The no was in disagreement to my response that ended in a yes? taking the opposite stand...

"The government" is a term that generally refers to the federal government.

I'm sure the far right thinks so, the rest of Americans would take it to mean government in general. Or do you have another general term to cover local, state as well as federal government? But in the end it's not how you or I view the term but how the responders to this poll view the term...

I think it's just at odds with your political beliefs, which isn't sitting too well with you.

Bull. Give me a real polling outfit to do a similar poll with best practices and I'll accept it. Post a inflammatory headline of bad journalism making questionable extrapolations to a poll that is quite obviously poorly conducted and you will get called on it.

Example: I have no problem with the Rasmussen poll you posted in post [64] even though I might want it to come out differently.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303343404577518990180932640.html?mod=WSJ_Election_RIGHTTopCarousel_1

Did I say that or did you say that? I believe I said "including."

I mean how many were referring to their local state laws when picking that? I don't know, do you?

"The government" is a term that generally refers to the federal government.

I get it supports your political beliefs but come on...

I think it's just at odds with your political beliefs, which isn't sitting too well with you.

I thought you might like this.. :D

And {Romney} expertly used education reform as a wedge between the president and his supporters in the audience, earning sustained applause when arguing that "candidates cannot have it both ways" -- i.e., Obama must choose between advancing education reforms and protecting teachers' unions.
http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/07/romney-steps-up-his-game-with.php

The point is, ObamaCare is not HealthCare reform.

It's not going to bring down costs.

And it's going to add TRILLIONS to the debt over the next 10 years..

So, let's take stock..

Doctors hate ObamaCare.

Costs are going to rise.

Many Americans will NOT be able to keep the Health Plans they had..

It's a huge tax increase...

These are the facts...

ObamaCare is simply a debacle from A to Z...

That's an opinion.. :D

Michale....

I mean how many were referring to their local state laws when picking that? I don't know, do you?

I get it supports your political beliefs but come on...

With 65% citing government involvement, in general, as the cause, including the president (27%) and congress (26%), who passed CrapCare? No.

So 21% think it's discriminatory, and there are 21% of self-defined liberals in this country. Coincidence? ;D

Well, as I said the poll asked about current changes in the medical system. Not specifically Obamacare. And not specifically government involvement in the medical system. That would skew the data somewhat, would you not agree?

The question:

7.Who’s most to blame for current problems in medicine? (Choose three)

President - 27.2%
Congress - 25.8%
Government involvement in general - 65.2%
Hospitals - 7.0%
Health plans/insurance - 49.5%
Third-party payers - 41.5%
Lawyers - 41.5%
Patients - 7.3%
Doctors/Medical professionals - 12.1%
Medicare/Medicaid - 15.4%

So, the blame goes to Government involvement in general first. This could be local/state as well as federal. Insurance, third party payers and lawyers in a virtual tie for second and Congress and the president tied for a distant third. Hard to get the premise that 83% are against Obamacare from that, yes?

Then there is the poll it's self. It was Faxed. The respondents had a month to reply. 36,000 were faxed. They know 16,227 were confirmed delivered to a fax machine and 699 replied, 4.3%. I'm not sure how that compares to more professional polling but it seems like a small enough response rate to skew the results somewhat, though in which direction, I'm not sure. In any rate not exactly the best practices in polling…

So, yes I find the poll it's self questionable but not half as bad as the journalism reporting on it...

Too bad that was not the question asked in the "poll".

1. How do current changes in the medical system affect your desire to practice medicine?

I'm re-energized - 4.6%

Makes me think about quitting - 82.6%

Unsure/no opinion - 12.8%

I've seen both of you trash polls you did not agree with.

Sounds a bit like what you're doing with this doctors' poll, Bashi.

Take a smidgeon of that skepticism and apply it to this poll (link to the raw poll data in the link you posted) and see what you come up with...

I generally view all data, including any verbatims that might be included. You?

True...

But voting ONLY for American Citizens IS a constitutionally protected right...

Any illegal vote denigrates, lessens and nullifies a LEGAL vote...

My point is, if the NAACP demands ID for their racist club, then surely they can see the logic of demanding an ID for voting..

Something FAR MORE important than their racist club..

Michale.....

It's like the Left just doesn't care how blatantly their hypocrisy shows...

not that there isn't plenty of hypocrisy to go around on both the left and the right, but that comparison is really apples and oranges.

being a member of the NAACP (or attending their events) is not a constitutionally protected right. they're a non-government entity that can deny entry to anyone they choose. not so for voting.

The NAACP went euphoric over Eric Holder talking about how bad Voter ID laws are...

Yet, the NAACP required ID for anyone attending!??

It's like the Left just doesn't care how blatantly their hypocrisy shows...

Michale

Well, considering that he won in 2008 with 53% of the vote, they've got to be concerned that he's in the 40's. He surely doesn't have the following now that he had then.

Comments???

Looks like we won't need Iran to set off a Mid-East conflagration....

Michale.....

Exactly..

The euphoria for Gay Marriage, Illegal Amnesty and ObamaCare....

And NOTHING changes..

Those who support him, still (for the most part) support him and those who oppose him are given MORE incentive to oppose him..

I mean, after the big ObamaCare "win", wouldn't you expect a bump in the polls???

After giving amnesty to illegals, wouldn't you think it would show in the polls???

About the only thing that is showing Obama sinking (and sinking fast) is the fundraising...

If the election were held today, Obama would likely lose...

Michale.....

funny, i read the polls as absolutely nothing turning anyone for OR against him who didn't feel that way already.

No immigration bounce for President Obama
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/president-obama-gets-no-immigration-bounce/2012/07/10/gJQAG2tkaW_blog.html?wprss=rss_the-fix

That's what I can't understand about Obama. Everything he is doing is turning NPAs, Independents and even core supporters (Religious blacks) against him...

I would LOVE to be a fly on the wall at Obama Campaign Headquarters (AKA, The Oval Office) and learn exactly what the hell they are thinking...

Michale.....

So, we DO agree about polls!! :D

I knew we had something in common... :D

Michale....

Too bad that was not the question asked in the "poll". And I use that term very loosely. I've seen both of you trash polls you did not agree with. Take a smidgeon of that skepticism and apply it to this poll (link to the raw poll data in the link you posted) and see what you come up with...

How good can ObamaCare be if over 80% of doctors are willing to quit their careers over it???

Michale.....

http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/09/report-83-percent-of-doctors-have-considered-quitting-over-obamacare/

I was, if George Bush was slamming Kerry for sending jobs overseas..

Doesn't it seem kinda hypocritical to you to slam someone for sending jobs overseas and then not being squeaky clean in the AMERICAN FIRST department??

Call me silly, but it seems to me that someone should make sure their own house is in order before casting stones...

Wouldn't you agree???

Michbale.....

Kinda, sorta, maybe. Well, the the shell at any rate.

Just out of curiosity, were you going on about the made in Canada thing when George W. Bush was driving around in his made in Canada bus during his "Yes, America can" tour in 2004?

Though I hope the right keeps up with line of attack as I hear there is a second bus just like it, for the republican nominee...

No red lines yet???

Astonishing.....

Michale.....

The hypocrisy of the Left is in full bloom.... :^/

Tell ya what...

When Obama releases his school records, Romney will release all his tax returns...

Fair??? :D

Michale

"There's a different theory. Mitt Romney wants to take that bus -- probably a bus made in Switzerland or Bermuda -- "
-Robert Gibbs, Obama Campaign Advisor
http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/07/09/gibbs_on_economy_obama_has_pulled_the_bus_out_of_the_ditch.html

You mean, as opposed to the Vader Bus that Obama tools around in...

THAT WAS MADE IN CANADA!!???

Could Obama's campaign really be any more moronic...

Michale.....

But I don't think that's the change that we, the Americans who voted for him, had in mind...

Michale...

Wow. Likely Voters, no less.

ROFL! A bit before my time, as well. They'll probably have it on the American Movie Classics channel, now that he's passed away. That was the movie that made him his name. ;D

David: Nigel Tufnel, Spinal Tap

Great, great movie. I may have to go and watch it now. Again. For the zillionth time. Remember the Stonehenge set? And when Derek got trapped in the pod on stage? Hahaha!

I was actually a bit surprised Chris that you neglected to use one of the best lines ever about Obama's bus :)

-David

On the other hand, there is evidence to show that Obama's election was the result of a secret conspiracy by the Borg to assimilate the planet..... :D

"ASSIMILATE THIS!!!"
-Worf, STAR TREK VIII: First Contact

:D

Michale....

Obama's ideas aren't working..

Democrat's ideas are NOT working..

Contrast that to the report above that, in all states that elected GOP leadership in 2010, the economic situation is much better and getting better, faster....

This a clear, concise and undeniable choice to voters..

It's a choice between ideas that work and ideas that don't...

If Romney has more than two brain cells to rub together, that should be his ad for the month...

Ideas that work. Ideas that don't...

Michale.....

New Republican governors rapidly bringing down unemployment in their states
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-republican-governors-rapidly-bringing-down-unemployment-their-states

Awwwwwww, you stole my thunder!!

It's funny.. All the Left (and people around here (not that I lump ya'all in with the Left :D) ) claim gloom and doom if the GOP ever gets back in control..

Yet, this study indicates that the country will prosper under GOP Control.. :D

Joshua,

now that's just silly. the title of first marketed and affirmative action president belongs to JFK. in the present day his status as catholic or his media savvy campaign may seem insignificant, but my understanding of the time period is that both were as big a deal then as the marketing of obama was in 2008.

That was a little before my time... I was a little over a month old when JFK was killed.

(As an aside, apropos of nothing, did you know that the writers of Star Trek TOS had floated a story idea whereas Kirk et al travel back in time and had a hand in the JFK assassination.. The story was shelved after a fan revolt..)

But, I don't think you can claim that JFK's election was solely based on Marketing. He came from a political family and had very diverse military/political experiences prior to being elected. By comparison, Obama had no relevant experience that would indicate he could be president.

With regards to the claim of JFK being an Affirmative Action President, this is also not valid as being a Catholic was not being in a minority group..

Just like, when Romney is elected President, he couldn't be called an Affirmative Action President, just because he is Mormon, because Mormon is not a minority group..

Obama's election was completely, solely and unequivocally based on Marketing and Affirmative Action...

It's easy to prove. Simply ask yourself one question.

Would Obama have been elected if everything about him would be the exact same it is in the here and now, except that Obama was white???

If you answer that question honestly, you would have to say 'no'..

CB,

Aww, it's like the end of an era. Remember "Marty"?

That also, was a bit before my time. :D

Michale.....

Aww, it's like the end of an era. Remember "Marty"?

now that's just silly. the title of first marketed and affirmative action president belongs to JFK. in the present day his status as catholic or his media savvy campaign may seem insignificant, but my understanding of the time period is that both were as big a deal then as the marketing of obama was in 2008.

The Original McHale (no relation) has died...

Oscar-winning film star Ernest Borgnine dies at 95
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2012/07/08/oscar-winning-film-star-ernest-borgnine-dies-at-5/#ixzz204oimkWh

MicHale....

After four or five repetitions of the above, the screen has two Obamas.

Two or three. Then have him morph into Newt Gingrich a little faster. Maybe they could even work in Dukakis.

Which is mind boggling, considering what the 60s were all about... :D

Michale.....

I think it's the case for anyone on the Right, i.e., hard-core conservatives, Republicans and Right-leaners (which includes swing voters who are leaning that way re: CrapCare, as they have since the get-go, which is why there continues to be a majority in favor of repeal).

nonetheless, my impression is that most voters don't see healthcare as a states' rights issue.

The majority of Americans don't want more federal government in their lives; they want less. There have been polls out there reporting that for years. Like so:

58% Say An Overly Powerful Government Is A Bigger Danger Than A Weak One
As they have for years, Americans feel a government that is too powerful is a bigger problem than a government that is not powerful enough...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_2012/58_say_an_overly_powerful_government_is_a_bigger_danger_than_a_weak_one

There's another from early June that says...

51% See Federal Government As Threat to Their Rights
Just over half (51%) of Americans continue to believe that the government is more of a threat to individual rights than a protector of them.... only 34% of Adults in this country regard the federal government more as a protector of individual rights....

That's where the ire over the "mandate" has always come from. And that's what I don't think the Left realizes — including O himself.

any criticism of obamacare's substance is a boomerang that will rebound on romney faster than you can say "flip-flop."

Not among those who know the difference between a state creating a "mandate" for a program and the federal government doing it. The latter is when folks start to feel something in their gut that says "Wait a second..." Again, I think that's the part that the Left just does not "get," because they're perfectly comfortable with the federal government assuming this level of power.

The problem with #28 is that Obama didn't run on "It's going to take a while" or "It's not going to happen in my first term" did he??

If he had, he wouldn't be held as responsible as he is...

He ran on a platform of "HOPE" and "CHANGE".. He sold the American People a false bill of goods.. The only HOPE the American people have now is that we can CHANGE things back to prosperity...

For all intents and purposes, Obama is the first "marketed", the first Affirmative Action president this country has ever had...

Michale.....

wow, obama should read that verbatim, then after he reads it reveal the source.

I think people who understand states' rights, and want less federal control in their lives [snip] already know this.

perhaps for hardcore conservatives that's the case. nonetheless, my impression is that most voters don't see healthcare as a states' rights issue. i'm not generally in the habit of giving advice for the righties to run with, but it's a strange year. if romney wants to win, the cons need to stop trying to attack the substance of obamacare (which is where romney is weak) and jump straight to the centralized power issue.

(e.g. obama wants to force every single state to be the same as massachusetts. governor romney believes that every state is unique and should decide for itself how to help make health care more affordable.)

as much as it may sting, there's really no use in splitting hairs on health care policy differences. any criticism of obamacare's substance is a boomerang that will rebound on romney faster than you can say "flip-flop."

I think people who understand states' rights, and want less federal control in their lives (as in the majority of Americans, whom none too coincidentally have been against CrapCare from the start) already know this. The Left, OTOH, who's inclined to support more federal control, seem to be the ones who don't get the major difference between RomneyCare and CrapCare. And that includes Obama. He still seems to think that all he has to do is explain CrapCare's contents and benefits to bring folks around to accepting, if not loving, it. He doesn't understand that too much control in the federal government's hands has always been the thing that the majority of Americans have been against.

CW: I think this is the reason Romney's sticking like glue to the subject of the economy: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/june_2012/31_give_obama_positive_marks_on_handling_economic_issues

here in the reality-based land of weigantium, it's perfectly valid to emphasize the distinction between similar policies enacted at the state and federal levels. yes, there are some things that state and local governments are much better equipped to handle than the feds. however, in the world of PR and advertising, i don't see an easy way to get the average american of average intelligence to understand how romneycare and obamacare, though practically identical, are completely different. to be clear, i'm not saying you're wrong about the difference. what i am saying is that it's still probably a losing proposition for your side to spend energy on it with the general public.

joshua

Except that O came into national office like it was the second coming of the Lord and Savior, with 500 campaign promises under his belt and Kool-Aiders swooning at his feet (including the press). "Hope and change," remember? "Yes, we can!" So his feet are little bit more to the fire when it comes to NOW claiming, "Well, I didn't mean we could do it overnight." O's problem is that he sure as hell made it sound like he could. And now here he is, three and a half years later, with unemployment still higher than when he had entered office.

As an aside, I think the Left is just blowing money with those ads that scrutinize Romney's governor's record. Every time I hear O, himself, point the finger and talk about it, the first thing I think is, "Well, what about YOUR record, Mr. President?" I just know that same reaction has to be going on in the heads of many a viewer/voter out there. That approach just begs for a comparison to be made. I think it's bad strategy and just plain bad advertising, on the part of the Left, and Team-O, as well. I don't think the Lefty PAC is gonna get the ROI that makes that type of advertising worthy of throwing big bucks behind. I think they'll end up singing to the choir at the end of the day.

Not to mention, I don't believe the average voter is particularly interested in the politics of Massachusetts, where Republican Romney had a hard-core Dem congress in the bluest of all blue states. Compare that to O, who came into the presidency with major majorities in both the House and Senate, who gave him virtually everything he had asked for, and STILL we have 8.2% unemployment. And O's never even had a solid Republican congress; the Dems still hold the Senate. I think the Left's advertising that would be relevant if Romney were running for reelection in Massachusetts. But it's too apples-and-oranges to make any real impact on the national level, IMO.

...which Pelosi, Reid and O just found out from the Supreme Court.

Further, what may work for States would be complete chaos for the Federal Government..

Yet, to this day, O keeps comparing CrapCare to RomneyCare, like he thinks a state program and a federal program are one and the same thing and executed in the same manner. To this day, I don't think he understands the difference between state governments and the federal government, and which can do what, how and why. I'm not even sure, from the way he's talking, that he's yet to "get" that the federal government can't "mandate" under the Commerce Clause.

There is one problem with your idea..

One MAJOR problem...

What the States can do and what the Federal government can do are two completely different things.

Further, what may work for States would be complete chaos for the Federal Government..

Trying to compare effective State practices and extrapolating those practices over to Federal practices is like trying to force a round peg into a Quadrotriticale hole...

:D

Oh... and...

"Welcome to the Party, pal!!!!"
-John McClane, DIE HARD

:D

Michale.....

First off, welcome to the site. Your first comment was held for moderation, but from now on your comments should appear here instantly. As long as you post only one link per comment (multiple links comments are held for moderation to protect against comment spam).

As to your idea, here's what wound up on the cutting room floor this week, which is surprisingly similar:

Read the following quote:

You guys are bright enough to look at the numbers. I came in and the jobs had been just falling right off a cliff, I came in and they kept falling for 11 months. And if you are going to suggest to me that somehow the day I got elected, somehow jobs should have immediately turned around, well that would be silly. It takes awhile to get things turned around. We were in a recession, we were losing jobs every month. I’m very pleased that over the last a two, two and a half, years we’ve seen pretty consistent job growth.

Obama on the campaign trail, right?

Wrong. Mitt Romney from a 2006 press conference. Here's the story, and a handy video made by a group called American Bridge.

The ad would be something akin to what you suggested, just with slightly different text.

-CW

Yea, it's going to be a nightmare, if Obama is re-elected...

"Total breakdown of basic social services worldwide-- rioting, mass religious hysteria. Total chaos. You can imagine. Basically the worst parts of the Bible."
-Billy Bob Thornton, ARMAGEDDON

:D

Michale.....

I think that's the area I'm talking about. When I tuned in, you had your camera facing an area where it looked like you did repairs.

I trust you've seen this:
The tax man cometh to police you on health care
http://apnews.myway.com//article/20120707/D9VS2E3O0.html

"Your 'best!? Losers always whine about their 'best'. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
-Sean Connery, THE ROCK

:D

Not to be a nudge, but the floor in the store needs sweeping, Michale.

You should see the area BEHIND the camera.. :D The Front is immaculate compared to the back.. :D

Michale....

Not to be a nudge, but the floor in the store needs sweeping, Michale. Why is it that men never think to sweep the floor? (Can I be your virtual business partner?)

Well, I guess Obama has tried everything else..

Maybe whining will score points with the Independents and NPAs...

Michale.....

Open with a split screen Obama and Romney. Obama says how pleased he is that the Supreme Court validated his Health Care Program; Romney says he will kill Obamacare his first day in office.

No for the fun. A quick clip of Obama making a comment about Obamacare followed by Romney making the same comment about "MassCare". This is followed by a slight morph of Romney to look a tad like Obama.

After four or five repetitions of the above, the screen has two Obamas.

Or, in the case of O and the mandate, against it before he was for it.

Good catch.. Obama derided and ridiculed the term "Obamacare", almost calling it a "slur"..

Right up until it became politically advantageous to embrace it... Which he promptly did...

So Obama was against ObamaCare before he was for it.. :D

CW,

Holy crap, yer awake!! :D

But tell me, did you appreciate the poetry of "At night, the ice weasels come"?

Enquiring minds want to know. Matt Groening's a genius, in my humble opinion...

I must admit, I am an uncultured swine....

"Hay Ham! Look!!! I'm Picasso!!"
"I.... I don't get it."
"You uncultured swine!!!"
-Toy Story

Michale.....

Obama has been the "leisure President" of the decade...

Do Dems REALLY want to open the flood gates of ALL the hundreds of thousands of pictures that exist of Obama out playing and campaigning when he should be leading???

Im just sayin'...

Michale.....

Yeah, I'm actually awake for comments (for once).

But tell me, did you appreciate the poetry of "At night, the ice weasels come"?

Enquiring minds want to know. Matt Groening's a genius, in my humble opinion...

:-)

-CW

Obama camp: GOP spending 'could cost us the election'
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/07/obama-camp-gop-spending-could-cost-us-the-election/1#.T_fgSnBTdDQ

No, it won't be the +8% unemployment, snail's-pace growth, $15.6T debt, historic downgrade, and/or the country wanting his CrapCare repealed. Nah, it'll all be the fault of the other guy's spending.

Somebody, please stick their hand up in a strategy meeting and get all outside-the-boxey with a suggestion that "perhaps Greyhound One is a little, I don't know... intimidating..." and then send the damn thing into the body shop for a better color scheme. Until that point, we'll just have to keep giving out these default MDDOTW awards every so often, on slow weeks, we suppose

Oh, it gets better...

Obama is using the Vader Bus to go all around the country, ripping Romney for allegedly out-sourcing jobs..

The bus?? It was built in Canada...

(including every single "Obama surrogate" out there being interviewed on television)

Do you REALLY think you want to call out the Obama surrogates???

Because, if the past is any indication, they sure have been doing a bang up job... For Romney...

Michale.....

I don't know the history of this bill. Often is the time when one side sneaks something in there. I really don't know. But the point is not the House or Senate; it's Obama and his veto pen.

But here's a present for you (since you made such a stink about it last week) -- some of us are keeping score better, and Obama broke his word on taxing the under-$250Ks a long time ago, for two specific groups: customers of tanning salons, and cigarette smokers. Obama signed new federal taxes on both, years back. Make of it what you will, and you're welcome for reminding you of the fact.

ROFL! I appreciate the sentiment, but I already knew that. You KNOW I know every bad thing that O does. I'm an aficionado.

"At night, the ice weasels come." That's downright poetic, when you think about it.

Hahahaha. I forgot to tell you how much I loved that line.

Or, in the case of O and the mandate, against it before he was for it.

You can, just not at the same pay grade: a Congressional "vacation" consists of long hours begging for money. There's a slot open in front of our 7-11 if you want to experience it first-hand.

BWAH hah hah hah! Now THAT was funny! Best laugh I've had all week, thanks...

:-)

-CW

You can, just not at the same pay grade: a Congressional "vacation" consists of long hours begging for money. There's a slot open in front of our 7-11 if you want to experience it first-hand.

what I have dubbed "Greyhound One" -- a new concept in presidential conveyances: the presidential bus

I actually saw Ground Force One rolling through Boston. It was white with huge blue letters saying "United States" along the side and "Ground Force One" on the back. Of course, just as with Air Force One, it's not a specific vehicle; it's any vehicle of the relevant type that happens to be tapped for presidential use. Anyway, they don't all have the Vader look.

Punctuate your ad copy with the repeated use of "Flip. Flop." Bonus points for working in an Etch A Sketch at the end. Make your suggestions in the comments, as always.

"For it before he was against it" is a timeless classic.

Then why didn't the Tea Partiers strip it out in the House? If the Tea Partiers cared, they could have stopped this. They didn't.

Plenty of blame to go around, in other words.

I think (I'm not totally up on the subject, I admit) that the state governments were the ones who pushed this, because it is basically a tax dodge, at the state level.

But here's a present for you (since you made such a stink about it last week) -- some of us are keeping score better, and Obama broke his word on taxing the under-$250Ks a long time ago, for two specific groups: customers of tanning salons, and cigarette smokers. Obama signed new federal taxes on both, years back. Make of it what you will, and you're welcome for reminding you of the fact.

:-)

I'm in a weird mood tonight.

"At night, the ice weasels come." That's downright poetic, when you think about it. Sounds like something Tolstoy could have written, in fact.

-CW

Blue York? Why am I not surprised? Still, the point is that O holds the veto pen. He can stop this. He, in fact, can make a hero of himself by saving these jobs. Instead, he'll close down this industry (and it's not the first industry he'll be putting a regulatory hurting on) all while simultaneously claiming that Romney is a job destroyer.

While I'm thinking of it, I read a terrific article that explains the role of a Bain with a very simple comparison to a lemonade stand. Thought you might like it: http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/who-offshored-my-lemons--20120705?mrefid=skybox

I've heard this is a thing in NYC, too.

But remember, Republicans in the House passed this too. Obama's not singlehandedly doing anything on his own, here.

-CW

"A tiny amendment buried in the federal transportation bill to be signed today by President Barack Obama will put operators of roll-your-own cigarette operations in Las Vegas and nationwide out of business at midnight.

Robert Weissen, with his brothers and other partners, own nine Sin City Cigarette Factory locations in Southern Nevada, including six in Las Vegas, and one in Hawaii. He said when the bill is signed their only choice is to turn off their 20 RYO Filling Station machines and lay off more than 40 employees."
http://www.lvrj.com/business/roll-your-own-cigarette-operations-to-be-snuffed-out-161539845.html

This is also the perfect example of why Republicans are forever saying that too much regulation hurts business.

The reason O can't make a charge like this is because he's guilty of it himself. How many times has he infuriated the Left over this? You folks called them "cave-ins," but they can just as easily be labeled flip-flops.