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	<title>Comments on: From The Archives -- Memorializing Second-Class Soldiers</title>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/05/28/from-the-archives-memorializing-second-class-soldiers/#comment-21811</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 12:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a really good article about this, if anyone wants to discuss this aspect...

http://nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&amp;partner=MYWAY&amp;ei=5065

It&#039;s a long article, but a really good read..

Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a really good article about this, if anyone wants to discuss this aspect...</p>
<p><a href="http://nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&amp;partner=MYWAY&amp;ei=5065" rel="nofollow">http://nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&amp;partner=MYWAY&amp;ei=5065</a></p>
<p>It's a long article, but a really good read..</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/05/28/from-the-archives-memorializing-second-class-soldiers/#comment-21809</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 12:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;They were the main reason why I was so annoyed at even DEBATING torture by the US as a policy. &quot;What the heck?? That&#039;s what the freakin&#039; Nazis did!&quot; was my reaction. &quot;Ve haff vays of makink you talk...&quot; was a cliche, for Pete&#039;s sake...&lt;/I&gt;

One really can&#039;t compare the war against terrorism with WWII...

On the plus side of that equation, we&#039;re not dropping nukes on or fire-bombing whole cities, just to take out infantry or infrastructure or deep water ports.

What worked in WWII is not feasible in the here and now..  

Just as what was abhorrent in WWII is a necessity in the here and now..

One only has to point to the decimation of Al Qaeda to know beyond any doubt that torture IS effective AND is a useful tool..

It&#039;s not the first tool we should pull out of our toolbox..  But we shouldn&#039;t discard it any more than a mechanic would discard a perversely over-sized wrench..  

The logical and rational thought process is, &quot;I/We might need this some day.&quot;


Michale.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They were the main reason why I was so annoyed at even DEBATING torture by the US as a policy. "What the heck?? That's what the freakin' Nazis did!" was my reaction. "Ve haff vays of makink you talk..." was a cliche, for Pete's sake...</i></p>
<p>One really can't compare the war against terrorism with WWII...</p>
<p>On the plus side of that equation, we're not dropping nukes on or fire-bombing whole cities, just to take out infantry or infrastructure or deep water ports.</p>
<p>What worked in WWII is not feasible in the here and now..  </p>
<p>Just as what was abhorrent in WWII is a necessity in the here and now..</p>
<p>One only has to point to the decimation of Al Qaeda to know beyond any doubt that torture IS effective AND is a useful tool..</p>
<p>It's not the first tool we should pull out of our toolbox..  But we shouldn't discard it any more than a mechanic would discard a perversely over-sized wrench..  </p>
<p>The logical and rational thought process is, "I/We might need this some day."</p>
<p>Michale.....</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/05/28/from-the-archives-memorializing-second-class-soldiers/#comment-21805</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 05:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hawk Owl -

OK, I&#039;m impressed that you have a 442nd shoulder patch.

I&#039;ve never seen &quot;Bad Day at Black Rock&quot; but I will check it out on Netflix.  I grew up watching WWII movies on Saturday afternoon TV, because they were cheap for the local stations to put on.  Seen a lot of them, but not all (still never seen &quot;From Here To Eternity&quot; I&#039;m ashamed to admit).

They were the main reason why I was so annoyed at even DEBATING torture by the US as a policy.  &quot;What the heck??  That&#039;s what the freakin&#039; Nazis did!&quot; was my reaction.  &quot;Ve haff vays of makink you talk...&quot; was a cliche, for Pete&#039;s sake...

Sigh.

Anyway, I will check it out.  Favorite WWII move (for amusement) &quot;Kelly&#039;s Heroes&quot; (for war scenes) &quot;Tora Tora Tora&quot;...

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hawk Owl -</p>
<p>OK, I'm impressed that you have a 442nd shoulder patch.</p>
<p>I've never seen "Bad Day at Black Rock" but I will check it out on Netflix.  I grew up watching WWII movies on Saturday afternoon TV, because they were cheap for the local stations to put on.  Seen a lot of them, but not all (still never seen "From Here To Eternity" I'm ashamed to admit).</p>
<p>They were the main reason why I was so annoyed at even DEBATING torture by the US as a policy.  "What the heck??  That's what the freakin' Nazis did!" was my reaction.  "Ve haff vays of makink you talk..." was a cliche, for Pete's sake...</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>Anyway, I will check it out.  Favorite WWII move (for amusement) "Kelly's Heroes" (for war scenes) "Tora Tora Tora"...</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Hawk Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawk Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 01:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m old enough to have been a boy during WW II who was tremendously impressed by the soldiers returning home, their stories especially.   I began collecting the shoulder patches they wore and derived much pleasure like may kids that age in learning about the various units&#039; insignia (the 442nd RCT included) I collected.

My eyes were first opened to the issue you&#039;ve mentioned so trenchantly when I saw one of the most powerful movies in my lifetime as a teen ~ Spencer Tracy in &quot;Bad Day at Black Rock, which still stirs intense feelings whenever I&#039;ve seen it on the Movie Channel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm old enough to have been a boy during WW II who was tremendously impressed by the soldiers returning home, their stories especially.   I began collecting the shoulder patches they wore and derived much pleasure like may kids that age in learning about the various units' insignia (the 442nd RCT included) I collected.</p>
<p>My eyes were first opened to the issue you've mentioned so trenchantly when I saw one of the most powerful movies in my lifetime as a teen ~ Spencer Tracy in "Bad Day at Black Rock, which still stirs intense feelings whenever I've seen it on the Movie Channel.</p>
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