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	<title>Comments on: Predicting Florida: Newt&#039;s Petard</title>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/01/30/predicting-florida-newts-petard/#comment-19220</link>
		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 02:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With 92% reporting, here&#039;s the results: 

Romney, Mitt	GOP	742,281	  47%
Romney, Not     GOP     828,621   52%

&lt;i&gt; FL was expected to be a Romney state and the national Party establishment favors Romney. It&#039;s speculation, but it sounds plausible on first hearing. &lt;/i&gt; 

Here&#039;s some more rampant speculation. What&#039;s the effect of Paul and Santorum running? A win for Romney. 

Think about it. If you wanted to split the base, how would you do it? 

First, you&#039;d pick someone who was a pure evangelical. Someone to peel off the evangelical vote. Someone like Santorum. 

Second, you&#039;d run a libertarian. Who&#039;s supposedly more Libertarian than anyone? Paul. 

Ok. Pure speculation. But regardless of intent, the result is a split Tea Party. This should be a lesson to the establishment Republicans. If you want to win, split the Tea Party vote. 

-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 92% reporting, here's the results: </p>
<p>Romney, Mitt	GOP	742,281	  47%<br />
Romney, Not     GOP     828,621   52%</p>
<p><i> FL was expected to be a Romney state and the national Party establishment favors Romney. It's speculation, but it sounds plausible on first hearing. </i> </p>
<p>Here's some more rampant speculation. What's the effect of Paul and Santorum running? A win for Romney. </p>
<p>Think about it. If you wanted to split the base, how would you do it? </p>
<p>First, you'd pick someone who was a pure evangelical. Someone to peel off the evangelical vote. Someone like Santorum. </p>
<p>Second, you'd run a libertarian. Who's supposedly more Libertarian than anyone? Paul. </p>
<p>Ok. Pure speculation. But regardless of intent, the result is a split Tea Party. This should be a lesson to the establishment Republicans. If you want to win, split the Tea Party vote. </p>
<p>-David</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the RNC decided to go along with the Florida Republican Party&#039;s decision to hold their primary early and winner-take-all, letting the 50% delegate allocation count as penalty for both -- perhaps because FL was expected to be a Romney state and the national Party establishment favors Romney.  It&#039;s speculation, but it sounds plausible on first hearing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the RNC decided to go along with the Florida Republican Party's decision to hold their primary early and winner-take-all, letting the 50% delegate allocation count as penalty for both -- perhaps because FL was expected to be a Romney state and the national Party establishment favors Romney.  It's speculation, but it sounds plausible on first hearing.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/01/30/predicting-florida-newts-petard/#comment-19218</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to see heads explode and view the internicine bloodbaths by wildly overeducated college level children try &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anarchy.no/abc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anarchist Black Cross&lt;/a&gt; where they essentially define everyone but a couple of hundred people worldwide as &quot;NOT ANARCHIST&quot;.

sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to see heads explode and view the internicine bloodbaths by wildly overeducated college level children try <a href="http://www.anarchy.no/abc.html" rel="nofollow">Anarchist Black Cross</a> where they essentially define everyone but a couple of hundred people worldwide as "NOT ANARCHIST".</p>
<p>sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2012/01/30/predicting-florida-newts-petard/#comment-19217</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[2]&quot;at what point the Ron Paulites realize that the GOP is not their party.&quot;

Elizabeth is right.  The Paulites that are actually thinking about electing or influencing RonPaul don&#039;t think at all.  They have no reason to leave the R party, because they are perfectly at home there at this time.  Their political philosophy can be summed up by: I GOT MINE.  STAY AWAY 

Defining Libertarianism is quite difficult, because the 2 main branches (Left and Right) have only one thing in common:  A profound distrust of coercive associations (re: government). 

I&#039;ve discussed the political process with a lot of people who consider themselves to be Right Libertarian.  Uniformly, they consider the elective process to be fatally flawed, and participate only to promote discussion of alternative ideas of association.  Their support of &quot;mainstream&quot; Libertarians like Ron Paul is predicated on the realization that candidates such as RP have no chance to win.  This is a war for the soul of mankind.  A revolution dedicated to changing the paradigm of government itself.  To actually win a post in the current setup would defeat the cause.  An excellent treatment of their ideas is found in &lt;a href=&quot;http://books.google.com/books/about/Realizing_freedom.html?id=8W9YL4pQ2DsC&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Realizing Freedom&lt;/a&gt;.  Oh, and the ones that I knew thought that Ayn Rand was a weirdo ... and a terrible author.

Left Libertarianism has as many different variants as there are bacteria in cheese.  Paul Goodman wrote NY Times OpEd in 1968 that gives a good &quot;feel&quot; for left &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ditext.com/goodman/flag.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anarchism&lt;/a&gt; in the late &#039;60&#039;s.  It should be noted that most LL supporters will have nothing to do with electoral system.  Both the IWW and the CNT forbid member unions from endorsing any candidate running for political office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[2]"at what point the Ron Paulites realize that the GOP is not their party."</p>
<p>Elizabeth is right.  The Paulites that are actually thinking about electing or influencing RonPaul don't think at all.  They have no reason to leave the R party, because they are perfectly at home there at this time.  Their political philosophy can be summed up by: I GOT MINE.  STAY AWAY </p>
<p>Defining Libertarianism is quite difficult, because the 2 main branches (Left and Right) have only one thing in common:  A profound distrust of coercive associations (re: government). </p>
<p>I've discussed the political process with a lot of people who consider themselves to be Right Libertarian.  Uniformly, they consider the elective process to be fatally flawed, and participate only to promote discussion of alternative ideas of association.  Their support of "mainstream" Libertarians like Ron Paul is predicated on the realization that candidates such as RP have no chance to win.  This is a war for the soul of mankind.  A revolution dedicated to changing the paradigm of government itself.  To actually win a post in the current setup would defeat the cause.  An excellent treatment of their ideas is found in <a href="http://books.google.com/books/about/Realizing_freedom.html?id=8W9YL4pQ2DsC" rel="nofollow">Realizing Freedom</a>.  Oh, and the ones that I knew thought that Ayn Rand was a weirdo ... and a terrible author.</p>
<p>Left Libertarianism has as many different variants as there are bacteria in cheese.  Paul Goodman wrote NY Times OpEd in 1968 that gives a good "feel" for left <a href="http://www.ditext.com/goodman/flag.html" rel="nofollow">Anarchism</a> in the late '60's.  It should be noted that most LL supporters will have nothing to do with electoral system.  Both the IWW and the CNT forbid member unions from endorsing any candidate running for political office.</p>
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		<title>By: akadjian</title>
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		<dc:creator>akadjian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; For me, the much more interesting question is at what point the Ron Paulites realize that the GOP is not their party. &lt;/i&gt; 

Or the evangelical Christians ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> For me, the much more interesting question is at what point the Ron Paulites realize that the GOP is not their party. </i> </p>
<p>Or the evangelical Christians ...</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Florida is breaking not just one but two Republican Party rules in tomorrow&#039;s primary -- it wasn&#039;t supposed to vote this early, and it was supposed to award its delegates proportionally. Florida ignored both rules, and will be a winner-take-all state, meaning Mitt will walk away with all its delegates.&lt;/i&gt;

They can choose when to vote: that&#039;s a state action, under their control.  But how on earth can they ignore the rule about proportional delegates, and issue a decision on behalf of the RNC credentials committee?  The national convention is in their state, but that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s their show.  Or does it?  

If I were setting these &quot;rules&quot;, I think I would be looking into booking a convention center in Ohio about now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Florida is breaking not just one but two Republican Party rules in tomorrow's primary -- it wasn't supposed to vote this early, and it was supposed to award its delegates proportionally. Florida ignored both rules, and will be a winner-take-all state, meaning Mitt will walk away with all its delegates.</i></p>
<p>They can choose when to vote: that's a state action, under their control.  But how on earth can they ignore the rule about proportional delegates, and issue a decision on behalf of the RNC credentials committee?  The national convention is in their state, but that doesn't mean it's their show.  Or does it?  </p>
<p>If I were setting these "rules", I think I would be looking into booking a convention center in Ohio about now.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

I&#039;m not sure the Ron Paul supporters think things through that clearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>I'm not sure the Ron Paul supporters think things through that clearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Osborne Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the much more interesting question is at what point the Ron Paulites realize that the GOP is not their party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the much more interesting question is at what point the Ron Paulites realize that the GOP is not their party.</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>romney, gingrich, santorum. they&#039;re the ones with signs in my neighborhood, so i&#039;m going with that order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>romney, gingrich, santorum. they're the ones with signs in my neighborhood, so i'm going with that order.</p>
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