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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17964</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that calling a black man a &quot;monkey&quot; is a racial slur..

But calling a white man a &quot;monkey&quot; is not???

To be perfectly honest, I never knew that..&lt;/i&gt;

now you know. in 1983 howard cosell apparently didn&#039;t know, and his career took a big hit because of it. all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that calling a black man a "monkey" is a racial slur..</p>
<p>But calling a white man a "monkey" is not???</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, I never knew that..</i></p>
<p>now you know. in 1983 howard cosell apparently didn't know, and his career took a big hit because of it. all</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17963</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2011 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;that&#039;s because monkey is a well known racist slur. it&#039;s not a double-standard if the same words would take on a different meaning depending on who they reference. the hypocrisy you&#039;re attempting to reference may very well exist, but that is absolutely not an example of it.&lt;/I&gt;

So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that calling a black man a &quot;monkey&quot; is a racial slur..

But calling a white man a &quot;monkey&quot; is not???

To be perfectly honest, I never knew that..

I guess I have led a sheltered life...

Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>that's because monkey is a well known racist slur. it's not a double-standard if the same words would take on a different meaning depending on who they reference. the hypocrisy you're attempting to reference may very well exist, but that is absolutely not an example of it.</i></p>
<p>So, if I understand you correctly, you are saying that calling a black man a "monkey" is a racial slur..</p>
<p>But calling a white man a "monkey" is not???</p>
<p>To be perfectly honest, I never knew that..</p>
<p>I guess I have led a sheltered life...</p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17962</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The higher a monkey climbs on the pole the more you can see his butt.&quot;
-David Axelrod, referring to Newt Gingrich

If anyone had said this about Obama, accusations of racism would have been screamed to the high heavens...
&lt;/i&gt;

michale,

that&#039;s because monkey is a well known racist slur. it&#039;s not a double-standard if the same words would take on a different meaning depending on who they reference. the hypocrisy you&#039;re attempting to reference may very well exist, but that is absolutely not an example of it.

here&#039;s a reverse example: if you called obama &quot;wall street&#039;s bitch,&quot; it would not be inherently hypocritical in the least that the same comment leveled at michelle bachmann would be labeled sexism. for hypocrisy to exist, the comment would have to mean the same thing when leveled at both individuals.

&lt;b&gt;&quot;you keep using that word. i don&#039;t think it means what you think it means.&quot;
~the princess bride&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>"The higher a monkey climbs on the pole the more you can see his butt."<br />
-David Axelrod, referring to Newt Gingrich</p>
<p>If anyone had said this about Obama, accusations of racism would have been screamed to the high heavens...<br />
</i></p>
<p>michale,</p>
<p>that's because monkey is a well known racist slur. it's not a double-standard if the same words would take on a different meaning depending on who they reference. the hypocrisy you're attempting to reference may very well exist, but that is absolutely not an example of it.</p>
<p>here's a reverse example: if you called obama "wall street's bitch," it would not be inherently hypocritical in the least that the same comment leveled at michelle bachmann would be labeled sexism. for hypocrisy to exist, the comment would have to mean the same thing when leveled at both individuals.</p>
<p><b>"you keep using that word. i don't think it means what you think it means."<br />
~the princess bride</b></p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17926</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grrrrrrrr....

Forgot to preview....

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grrrrrrrr....</p>
<p>Forgot to preview....</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17925</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, in the hypocrisy moment...

&lt;B&gt;&quot;The higher a monkey climbs on the pole the more you can see his butt.&quot;
-David Axelrod, referring to Newt Gingrich

If anyone had said this about Obama, accusations of racism would have been screamed to the high heavens...

Michale....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, in the hypocrisy moment...</p>
<p><b>"The higher a monkey climbs on the pole the more you can see his butt."<br />
-David Axelrod, referring to Newt Gingrich</p>
<p>If anyone had said this about Obama, accusations of racism would have been screamed to the high heavens...</p>
<p>Michale....<br />
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17922</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Means of doing &lt;b&gt;anything&lt;/b&gt; are sometimes ineffective.  Means of doing various things are sometimes so obviously ineffective that even the person doing it has to know it won&#039;t work, at least at accomplishing ing the supposed purpose.  In such cases, there&#039;s quite often another purpose involved.  

&quot;Usually so laughably ineffective as to be harmless&quot; isn&#039;t in the definition of boycott, because it goes without saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Means of doing <b>anything</b> are sometimes ineffective.  Means of doing various things are sometimes so obviously ineffective that even the person doing it has to know it won't work, at least at accomplishing ing the supposed purpose.  In such cases, there's quite often another purpose involved.  </p>
<p>"Usually so laughably ineffective as to be harmless" isn't in the definition of boycott, because it goes without saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17910</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Boycotts can be a form of coercion, or attempted coercion. &lt;/I&gt;

One would be hard pressed to come up with an example of a boycott that ISN&#039;T coercive...

Coercive is the very definition of boycott.

&lt;I&gt;boy·cott ?[boi-kot] 
verb (used with object)&lt;/I&gt;
&lt;B&gt;1.to combine in abstaining from, or preventing dealings with, as a means of intimidation or coercion: &lt;i&gt;to boycott a store.&lt;/I&gt; &lt;/B&gt;
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/boycott

&lt;I&gt;Coercion can be justified or unjustified,&lt;/I&gt;

Any coercion that hurts innocent people, it would be hard to justify...

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  You probably won&#039;t find a more firm believer in the mantra, &quot;The Ends Justifies The Means&quot; than I...

But there are some instances where it is not applicable..

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Boycotts can be a form of coercion, or attempted coercion. </i></p>
<p>One would be hard pressed to come up with an example of a boycott that ISN'T coercive...</p>
<p>Coercive is the very definition of boycott.</p>
<p><i>boy·cott ?[boi-kot]<br />
verb (used with object)</i><br />
<b>1.to combine in abstaining from, or preventing dealings with, as a means of intimidation or coercion: <i>to boycott a store.</i> </b><br />
<a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/boycott" rel="nofollow">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/boycott</a></p>
<p><i>Coercion can be justified or unjustified,</i></p>
<p>Any coercion that hurts innocent people, it would be hard to justify...</p>
<p>Don't get me wrong.  You probably won't find a more firm believer in the mantra, "The Ends Justifies The Means" than I...</p>
<p>But there are some instances where it is not applicable..</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boycotts can be a form of coercion, or attempted coercion.  They can also be a token action that reinforces the boycotter&#039;s awareness of and support for the cause, with no expectation of any effect on the boycott-ee.  

Coercion can be justified or unjustified, and have various degrees of legitimacy.  The fact that it takes the form of a boycott isn&#039;t of great importance in determining which such judgments rightly apply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boycotts can be a form of coercion, or attempted coercion.  They can also be a token action that reinforces the boycotter's awareness of and support for the cause, with no expectation of any effect on the boycott-ee.  </p>
<p>Coercion can be justified or unjustified, and have various degrees of legitimacy.  The fact that it takes the form of a boycott isn't of great importance in determining which such judgments rightly apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17890</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 11:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CW,

&lt;I&gt;Strong language seems to be coming from both sides, you&#039;re right about that. &lt;/I&gt;

Thank you.  That&#039;s all I was saying!   

Jeezus, I never thought I would have to FIGHT anyone to say that the Right is acting like a bunch of assholes...  

&lt;I&gt;Married with Children got boycotted? I&#039;ve heard of the Coors beer one, but not that one. Why? Because the show was so moronic? My wife just about ruined my enjoyment of &quot;Futurama&quot; recently by pointing out that Leloo was the voice of the MWC wife. (Shudder)&lt;/I&gt;

Ya never knew!??  Yea..  Katie Segal..  She&#039;s actually a pretty good actress.  Showed up in a couple episodes of LOST, plus a bunch of other shows I can&#039;t recall right now..

Anyways, yea, there was a big boycott of McDonalds when MWC first aired by the Right Wing groups.  Had debates with my cousin into the wee hours of the morning over the complete and utter nonsense of one group trying to impose their morality over another group..  

Hmmmmm  Funny.  After that, I was never invited back to the family reunions...  :D

&lt;I&gt;Boycotting, like talking points, is a tool -- a hammer is neither &quot;good&quot; nor &quot;evil,&quot; it&#039;s just a tool. It depends on how you use it, but that&#039;s a subjective decision for all.&lt;/I&gt;

I disagree...  Boycotting, like terrorism is inherently evil.  While both are, in fact, tools as you say, they are probably the ONLY &quot;tools&quot; that I can think of that ARE inherently evil..

Because Boycotting, like terrorism, counts on collateral damage, to be effective.  They both target innocent people.

I&#039;ll have to respectfully disagree with you on the value of boycotting.  

Unlike others here (not you)my opinion is the same, whether we&#039;re talking about a boycott from the Right or a boycott from the Left..


NYPoet,

&lt;I&gt;katey sagal is actually a pretty good singer and character actress. she just had the misfortune, if one can call it that, to become famous for a part in a bad show.&lt;/I&gt;

It wasn&#039;t THAT bad..  Had it&#039;s funny moments..  Ed O&#039;Neil is now in MODERN FAMILY, a show which should be right up ya&#039;alls alley... 

It&#039;s hilarious..  I highly recommend it...

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CW,</p>
<p><i>Strong language seems to be coming from both sides, you're right about that. </i></p>
<p>Thank you.  That's all I was saying!   </p>
<p>Jeezus, I never thought I would have to FIGHT anyone to say that the Right is acting like a bunch of assholes...  </p>
<p><i>Married with Children got boycotted? I've heard of the Coors beer one, but not that one. Why? Because the show was so moronic? My wife just about ruined my enjoyment of "Futurama" recently by pointing out that Leloo was the voice of the MWC wife. (Shudder)</i></p>
<p>Ya never knew!??  Yea..  Katie Segal..  She's actually a pretty good actress.  Showed up in a couple episodes of LOST, plus a bunch of other shows I can't recall right now..</p>
<p>Anyways, yea, there was a big boycott of McDonalds when MWC first aired by the Right Wing groups.  Had debates with my cousin into the wee hours of the morning over the complete and utter nonsense of one group trying to impose their morality over another group..  </p>
<p>Hmmmmm  Funny.  After that, I was never invited back to the family reunions...  :D</p>
<p><i>Boycotting, like talking points, is a tool -- a hammer is neither "good" nor "evil," it's just a tool. It depends on how you use it, but that's a subjective decision for all.</i></p>
<p>I disagree...  Boycotting, like terrorism is inherently evil.  While both are, in fact, tools as you say, they are probably the ONLY "tools" that I can think of that ARE inherently evil..</p>
<p>Because Boycotting, like terrorism, counts on collateral damage, to be effective.  They both target innocent people.</p>
<p>I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on the value of boycotting.  </p>
<p>Unlike others here (not you)my opinion is the same, whether we're talking about a boycott from the Right or a boycott from the Left..</p>
<p>NYPoet,</p>
<p><i>katey sagal is actually a pretty good singer and character actress. she just had the misfortune, if one can call it that, to become famous for a part in a bad show.</i></p>
<p>It wasn't THAT bad..  Had it's funny moments..  Ed O'Neil is now in MODERN FAMILY, a show which should be right up ya'alls alley... </p>
<p>It's hilarious..  I highly recommend it...</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17888</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nypoet22 -

Oh, now, that&#039;s &lt;em&gt;much&lt;/em&gt; more like it!

Heh.

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nypoet22 -</p>
<p>Oh, now, that's <em>much</em> more like it!</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17887</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CW,

try watching &quot;sons of anarchy&quot; - she&#039;s the matriarch of a biker gang.</description>
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<p>try watching "sons of anarchy" - she's the matriarch of a biker gang.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17886</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DerFarm -

I elected myself king of this site.  As for king of the universe, well, if I had that power, I would now hold Andy Rooney&#039;s job.  Heh.

I&#039;ve always been a supporter of boycotts, in a non-partisan way, the same way I&#039;m a supporter of political protest, in a non-partisan way.  I think I&#039;ve been pretty consistent on this, although Michale does indeed like to attempt yanking my chain on the issue every now and then... my favorite was his &quot;boycotts = economic terrorism&quot;... still chuckle when I think about the twisted logic behind THAT one....

I&#039;m still working on the comment thingie.  The &quot;pre-wrap&quot; didn&#039;t work, but I&#039;ve got a request out for advice from a WordPress expert user group, to see why things that should be working don&#039;t seem to be.  Patience, patience... other commenters here have been begging for a preview function for YEARS now... heh.

nypoet22 -

Yeah, that&#039;s what my wife says too, but somehow the mental image of a sexy purple-haired one-eyed alien is forever tarnished by the MWC associations, for me at least.  I can&#039;t picture her now without picturing a gigantic hairdo.    (shudder).

Heh.

-CW

PS.  Hey everyone, we&#039;re HALFWAY to our fundraising goal!  Woo hoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DerFarm -</p>
<p>I elected myself king of this site.  As for king of the universe, well, if I had that power, I would now hold Andy Rooney's job.  Heh.</p>
<p>I've always been a supporter of boycotts, in a non-partisan way, the same way I'm a supporter of political protest, in a non-partisan way.  I think I've been pretty consistent on this, although Michale does indeed like to attempt yanking my chain on the issue every now and then... my favorite was his "boycotts = economic terrorism"... still chuckle when I think about the twisted logic behind THAT one....</p>
<p>I'm still working on the comment thingie.  The "pre-wrap" didn't work, but I've got a request out for advice from a WordPress expert user group, to see why things that should be working don't seem to be.  Patience, patience... other commenters here have been begging for a preview function for YEARS now... heh.</p>
<p>nypoet22 -</p>
<p>Yeah, that's what my wife says too, but somehow the mental image of a sexy purple-haired one-eyed alien is forever tarnished by the MWC associations, for me at least.  I can't picture her now without picturing a gigantic hairdo.    (shudder).</p>
<p>Heh.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
<p>PS.  Hey everyone, we're HALFWAY to our fundraising goal!  Woo hoo!</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17883</link>
		<dc:creator>nypoet22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My wife just about ruined my enjoyment of &quot;Futurama&quot; recently by pointing out that Leloo was the voice of the MWC wife. (Shudder)&lt;/i&gt;

katey sagal is actually a pretty good singer and character actress. she just had the misfortune, if one can call it that, to become famous for a part in a bad show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My wife just about ruined my enjoyment of "Futurama" recently by pointing out that Leloo was the voice of the MWC wife. (Shudder)</i></p>
<p>katey sagal is actually a pretty good singer and character actress. she just had the misfortune, if one can call it that, to become famous for a part in a bad show.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17876</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn Chris,

You take a perfectly good flame war and douse it with flame retardant ... in Michale&#039;s case Intellectual Retardant.

Who died and elected you king of the universe.

And you STILL haven&#039;t fixe the damn preview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn Chris,</p>
<p>You take a perfectly good flame war and douse it with flame retardant ... in Michale's case Intellectual Retardant.</p>
<p>Who died and elected you king of the universe.</p>
<p>And you STILL haven't fixe the damn preview.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17875</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DerFarm [5] -

That&#039;s a good point about knowing the local lay of the political landscape -- a point a lot of national political operatives miss frequently.

Michale [8] -

OK, THAT was funny, I have to admit!

dsws [9] -

Had lots to do this weekend, but it should be back to normal (half-broken, but normal) by now.

Kevin [11] -

I have to respect anyone who puts Heinlein in with Hemingway and Kipling... Kidding aside, that is an excellent article.  The flip side to Ronald Reagan&#039;s &quot;I never left the Democratic PArty, they left me.&quot;

dsws [14] -

I&#039;m still going to file &quot;Y&#039;all&quot; in &quot;colloquialisms&quot; personally.  I would go with &quot;any aid or comfort&quot; in the spirit of the eitherness of the statement.

DerFarm [20] -

Reminds me of the (intentially) oxymoronic bumpersticker: &quot;Death to all fanatics!&quot;  Heh.

Michale [22] -

Do tell.  Got a link?  Hadn&#039;t heard of it...

[26] -

Oh, OK, there we go.  Well, I support both sides&#039; right to boycott each other.  Strong language seems to be coming from both sides, you&#039;re right about that.  But I have no problem with duelling boycotts.

To be scrupulously full-disclosurey, there is no Lowe&#039;s near me, so I&#039;m not affected either way.

[37] -

Married with Children got boycotted?  I&#039;ve heard of the Coors beer one, but not that one.  Why?  Because the show was so moronic?  My wife just about ruined my enjoyment of &quot;Futurama&quot; recently by pointing out that Leloo was the voice of the MWC wife.  (Shudder)

In general -

Boycotts are as all-American as apple pie.  Before and during the Revolution, many businesses were boycotted by the &quot;Patriots&quot; (rebels), and many businesses were destroyed and their prorpietors ridden out of town on a rail, tar and feathered, or both.  We&#039;ve been boycotting businesses which don&#039;t share our politics since BEFORE our country was born.  Boycotting, like talking points, is a tool -- a hammer is neither &quot;good&quot; nor &quot;evil,&quot; it&#039;s just a tool.  It depends on how you use it, but that&#039;s a subjective decision for all.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DerFarm [5] -</p>
<p>That's a good point about knowing the local lay of the political landscape -- a point a lot of national political operatives miss frequently.</p>
<p>Michale [8] -</p>
<p>OK, THAT was funny, I have to admit!</p>
<p>dsws [9] -</p>
<p>Had lots to do this weekend, but it should be back to normal (half-broken, but normal) by now.</p>
<p>Kevin [11] -</p>
<p>I have to respect anyone who puts Heinlein in with Hemingway and Kipling... Kidding aside, that is an excellent article.  The flip side to Ronald Reagan's "I never left the Democratic PArty, they left me."</p>
<p>dsws [14] -</p>
<p>I'm still going to file "Y'all" in "colloquialisms" personally.  I would go with "any aid or comfort" in the spirit of the eitherness of the statement.</p>
<p>DerFarm [20] -</p>
<p>Reminds me of the (intentially) oxymoronic bumpersticker: "Death to all fanatics!"  Heh.</p>
<p>Michale [22] -</p>
<p>Do tell.  Got a link?  Hadn't heard of it...</p>
<p>[26] -</p>
<p>Oh, OK, there we go.  Well, I support both sides' right to boycott each other.  Strong language seems to be coming from both sides, you're right about that.  But I have no problem with duelling boycotts.</p>
<p>To be scrupulously full-disclosurey, there is no Lowe's near me, so I'm not affected either way.</p>
<p>[37] -</p>
<p>Married with Children got boycotted?  I've heard of the Coors beer one, but not that one.  Why?  Because the show was so moronic?  My wife just about ruined my enjoyment of "Futurama" recently by pointing out that Leloo was the voice of the MWC wife.  (Shudder)</p>
<p>In general -</p>
<p>Boycotts are as all-American as apple pie.  Before and during the Revolution, many businesses were boycotted by the "Patriots" (rebels), and many businesses were destroyed and their prorpietors ridden out of town on a rail, tar and feathered, or both.  We've been boycotting businesses which don't share our politics since BEFORE our country was born.  Boycotting, like talking points, is a tool -- a hammer is neither "good" nor "evil," it's just a tool.  It depends on how you use it, but that's a subjective decision for all.</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17874</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Gee Whiz Bashi,

&lt;B&gt;To Our Valued Customers:

As some of you may have heard, Lowe’s Home Improvement has recently come under fire from the Florida Family Association (FFA) for advertising on cable TV’s TLC – The Learning Channel.

Specifically, they have asked us to terminate all adverting until that network removes the television reality show, All-American Muslim. It is the FFA’s concern that this show portrays an American Muslim family in a positive light, as they go about their lives as home-owners struggling to realize the American Dream held dear by so many of us. The FFA has asked that we spend our advertising dollars only on television shows that portray American Muslims as enemies of our country. They have called for a boycott of Lowe’s Home Improvement stores until we have agreed to their demands.&lt;/B&gt;


Apparently, another Left Wing site claims there was a boycott by the Right...

Even our own Matt Osborne claims that there was a &quot;pressure campaign&quot;...

&lt;B&gt;Florida Family Association, best-known for their campaign against Disney’s “Gay Day,” are so terrified of a new TLC show about Muslims living in America that they’ve engaged in an advertiser pressure campaign. Bank of America and Lowe’s have already removed their ads, and FFA claims dozens more have followed suit. Their website calls the show&lt;/B&gt;
&lt;I&gt;osborneink.com/2011/12/duggars-okay-muslims-not.html&lt;/I&gt;

So, here are the facts...

A radical Right Wing group threatened a boycott of Lowes&#039; if they didn&#039;t drop advertising of the TLC show...

Lowes&#039; caved into that radical group&#039;s demands..

The Left didn&#039;t like that the poor Muslims were being picked on (apparently the Left doesn&#039;t give a rip when CHRISTIANS are attacked and ridiculed, but that&#039;s another debate) and didn&#039;t like that the Right&#039;s boycott threat against Lowes&#039; worked..  

So, the LEFT threatened their OWN boycott of Lowes&#039;...

Get that??!!  The Left didn&#039;t like that Lowes&#039; caved in to the RIGHT&#039;s boycott (pressure campaign) so they threatened their OWN boycott...

Jeezus H Christ, you need a frak&#039;in playbill to keep track of all of this..

Interesting question, though...  Is a Left Wing boycott ALSO called a &quot;pressure campaign&quot;??  Just wanna get my terminology straight..

Ya gotta admire the twisted logic..

After all is said and done, it appears that YOU (Bashi) think that the Left Wing boycott is OK, but the Right Wing boycott (or &quot;pressure campaign&quot; as some would call it)  stinks..

Now THERE&#039;S a shocker, eh??  :D

My opinion, of course, has remained constant..

Boycotts from the Right or the Left all suck.  They are stoopid and moronic and invariably hurt the very people the boycott&#039;ers claim to represent or want to protect..

But what the hell..  It was good for a half dozen posts or so... :D

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Gee Whiz Bashi,</p>
<p><b>To Our Valued Customers:</p>
<p>As some of you may have heard, Lowe’s Home Improvement has recently come under fire from the Florida Family Association (FFA) for advertising on cable TV’s TLC – The Learning Channel.</p>
<p>Specifically, they have asked us to terminate all adverting until that network removes the television reality show, All-American Muslim. It is the FFA’s concern that this show portrays an American Muslim family in a positive light, as they go about their lives as home-owners struggling to realize the American Dream held dear by so many of us. The FFA has asked that we spend our advertising dollars only on television shows that portray American Muslims as enemies of our country. They have called for a boycott of Lowe’s Home Improvement stores until we have agreed to their demands.</b></p>
<p>Apparently, another Left Wing site claims there was a boycott by the Right...</p>
<p>Even our own Matt Osborne claims that there was a "pressure campaign"...</p>
<p><b>Florida Family Association, best-known for their campaign against Disney’s “Gay Day,” are so terrified of a new TLC show about Muslims living in America that they’ve engaged in an advertiser pressure campaign. Bank of America and Lowe’s have already removed their ads, and FFA claims dozens more have followed suit. Their website calls the show</b><br />
<i>osborneink.com/2011/12/duggars-okay-muslims-not.html</i></p>
<p>So, here are the facts...</p>
<p>A radical Right Wing group threatened a boycott of Lowes' if they didn't drop advertising of the TLC show...</p>
<p>Lowes' caved into that radical group's demands..</p>
<p>The Left didn't like that the poor Muslims were being picked on (apparently the Left doesn't give a rip when CHRISTIANS are attacked and ridiculed, but that's another debate) and didn't like that the Right's boycott threat against Lowes' worked..  </p>
<p>So, the LEFT threatened their OWN boycott of Lowes'...</p>
<p>Get that??!!  The Left didn't like that Lowes' caved in to the RIGHT's boycott (pressure campaign) so they threatened their OWN boycott...</p>
<p>Jeezus H Christ, you need a frak'in playbill to keep track of all of this..</p>
<p>Interesting question, though...  Is a Left Wing boycott ALSO called a "pressure campaign"??  Just wanna get my terminology straight..</p>
<p>Ya gotta admire the twisted logic..</p>
<p>After all is said and done, it appears that YOU (Bashi) think that the Left Wing boycott is OK, but the Right Wing boycott (or "pressure campaign" as some would call it)  stinks..</p>
<p>Now THERE'S a shocker, eh??  :D</p>
<p>My opinion, of course, has remained constant..</p>
<p>Boycotts from the Right or the Left all suck.  They are stoopid and moronic and invariably hurt the very people the boycott'ers claim to represent or want to protect..</p>
<p>But what the hell..  It was good for a half dozen posts or so... :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17873</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, you got caught red handed not vetting the links you post to back up an argument you made. Again. Descending in to the juvenile is not going to change that fact...


That&#039;s what you are, what am I?
That&#039;s what you are, what am I?
That&#039;s what you are, what am I?

Yawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, you got caught red handed not vetting the links you post to back up an argument you made. Again. Descending in to the juvenile is not going to change that fact...</p>
<p>That's what you are, what am I?<br />
That's what you are, what am I?<br />
That's what you are, what am I?</p>
<p>Yawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17872</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;B&gt;The FFA is better known for boycotts of advertisers to get a transgender character removed from the teen drama Degrassi — which FFA termed “salacious and irresponsible propaganda” — and spending its spare time monitoring the behavior of park patrons at Disney World’s “Gay Days”. (No, really.) Seeing their cries of terror at the homosexual threat falling on increasingly deaf ears, they have branched out into paranoid attacks on Muslims&lt;/B&gt;
&lt;I&gt;secularnewsdaily.com/2011/12/12/should-secular-minded-americans-boycott-lowes/&lt;/I&gt;

Oh, yes...

The FFA would never stoop to boycotts..

I guess you were right and I was wrong, Bashi..

The FFA is in the right here....  :^/

I guess you&#039;ll argue ANY point, as long as it&#039;s a point that I am making..  :D

Well, that&#039;s kewl too..  Allows me more posts...  :D

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The FFA is better known for boycotts of advertisers to get a transgender character removed from the teen drama Degrassi — which FFA termed “salacious and irresponsible propaganda” — and spending its spare time monitoring the behavior of park patrons at Disney World’s “Gay Days”. (No, really.) Seeing their cries of terror at the homosexual threat falling on increasingly deaf ears, they have branched out into paranoid attacks on Muslims</b><br />
<i>secularnewsdaily.com/2011/12/12/should-secular-minded-americans-boycott-lowes/</i></p>
<p>Oh, yes...</p>
<p>The FFA would never stoop to boycotts..</p>
<p>I guess you were right and I was wrong, Bashi..</p>
<p>The FFA is in the right here....  :^/</p>
<p>I guess you'll argue ANY point, as long as it's a point that I am making..  :D</p>
<p>Well, that's kewl too..  Allows me more posts...  :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17871</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 22:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am defending the left of a specific accusation of  hyprocrisy that you did not prove.

&lt;i&gt;But, we are agreed.. It&#039;s is ridiculous that the Left would threaten a boycott of Lowe&#039;s and BofA for their actions...&lt;/i&gt;

I think this is a valid action and not ridiculous at all. It would be better to send letters but a boycott works. If people can prove to lowes and other corporations that more money is to be lost listening to this group than ignoring them it lessens this groups power. Which to me is a good thing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am defending the left of a specific accusation of  hyprocrisy that you did not prove.</p>
<p><i>But, we are agreed.. It's is ridiculous that the Left would threaten a boycott of Lowe's and BofA for their actions...</i></p>
<p>I think this is a valid action and not ridiculous at all. It would be better to send letters but a boycott works. If people can prove to lowes and other corporations that more money is to be lost listening to this group than ignoring them it lessens this groups power. Which to me is a good thing...</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17870</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I see no mention of boycott stated or implied.&lt;/I&gt;

Really????

&lt;B&gt;I encourage you to stop supporting this show with your advertising dollars.&lt;/B&gt;

Seems like the threat is implied..  The &quot;or else&quot; is plain...  At least to people who live in the real world..

But, let me get this straight.

You are DEFENDING the FFA???

Boy, ONE of us is really confused.

But, we are agreed..  It&#039;s is ridiculous that the Left would threaten a boycott of Lowe&#039;s and BofA for their actions...


Michale....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I see no mention of boycott stated or implied.</i></p>
<p>Really????</p>
<p><b>I encourage you to stop supporting this show with your advertising dollars.</b></p>
<p>Seems like the threat is implied..  The "or else" is plain...  At least to people who live in the real world..</p>
<p>But, let me get this straight.</p>
<p>You are DEFENDING the FFA???</p>
<p>Boy, ONE of us is really confused.</p>
<p>But, we are agreed..  It's is ridiculous that the Left would threaten a boycott of Lowe's and BofA for their actions...</p>
<p>Michale....<br />
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17869</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yes, Bashi... The Left would never engage in hypocrisy... :D&lt;/i&gt;

You are arguing a specific case of hyprocrisy that you seem unable to back up with evidence. 

As the group in question has a pre-formatted email I can tell you exactly what those emails say:

&lt;i&gt;Please do not support TLC propaganda.	

The Learning Channel&#039;s new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law.

The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to the liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish.

One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated &quot;I really am American.  No ifs and or buts about it.&quot;  This scene would appear to be damage control for the Dearborn Police who have arrested numerous Christians including several former Muslims for peacefully preaching Christianity.

Many situations were profiled in the show from a Muslim tolerant perspective while avoiding the perspective that would have created Muslim conflict thereby contradicting The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America.

Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.

I encourage you to stop supporting this show with your advertising dollars.&lt;/i&gt; 

I see no mention of boycott stated or implied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yes, Bashi... The Left would never engage in hypocrisy... :D</i></p>
<p>You are arguing a specific case of hyprocrisy that you seem unable to back up with evidence. </p>
<p>As the group in question has a pre-formatted email I can tell you exactly what those emails say:</p>
<p><i>Please do not support TLC propaganda.	</p>
<p>The Learning Channel's new show All-American Muslim is propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Sharia law.</p>
<p>The show profiles only Muslims that appear to be ordinary folks while excluding many Islamic believers whose agenda poses a clear and present danger to the liberties and traditional values that the majority of Americans cherish.</p>
<p>One of the most troubling scenes occurred at the introduction of the program when a Muslim police officer stated "I really am American.  No ifs and or buts about it."  This scene would appear to be damage control for the Dearborn Police who have arrested numerous Christians including several former Muslims for peacefully preaching Christianity.</p>
<p>Many situations were profiled in the show from a Muslim tolerant perspective while avoiding the perspective that would have created Muslim conflict thereby contradicting The Learning Channel’s agenda to inaccurately portray Muslims in America.</p>
<p>Clearly this program is attempting to manipulate Americans into ignoring the threat of jihad and to influence them to believe that being concerned about the jihad threat would somehow victimize these nice people in this show.</p>
<p>I encourage you to stop supporting this show with your advertising dollars.</i> </p>
<p>I see no mention of boycott stated or implied.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17868</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

&lt;I&gt;One legislator. Right. Real good Michale, Real good. I forsee a solid future for you in Fox News.&lt;/I&gt;


&lt;B&gt;Unfortunately, most political intolerance comes when someone decides that THIS intolerance (fill in the blank) is justified because of circumstances ... the ends justify the means.&lt;/B&gt;

I just mention it..  :D


Bashi,

&lt;I&gt;I agree it is, but so far you have not proven the hypocrisy from the left angle.&lt;/I&gt;

Yes, Bashi...  The Left would never engage in hypocrisy...  :D

You Left Wing Warrior, you!   :D

The Right wings calls for letters to the advertisers...  

What do you think those letters were saying??

Probably much the same thing when Right Wing groups wanted to boycott McDonalds and other advertisers of the MARRIED WITH CHILDREN show...

You can play semantic games all ya want..  

But it&#039;s clear that the Right Wing group was threatening a boycott of the advertisers of that TLC show..

Why else do you think the advertisers caved??

NOW the Left wing is slamming the advertisers for caving into the Right Wing boycott...

I guess the Left thinks that only THEIR boycotts should be adhered to...

Like I said...  Hilarious...  :D

Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF,</p>
<p><i>One legislator. Right. Real good Michale, Real good. I forsee a solid future for you in Fox News.</i></p>
<p><b>Unfortunately, most political intolerance comes when someone decides that THIS intolerance (fill in the blank) is justified because of circumstances ... the ends justify the means.</b></p>
<p>I just mention it..  :D</p>
<p>Bashi,</p>
<p><i>I agree it is, but so far you have not proven the hypocrisy from the left angle.</i></p>
<p>Yes, Bashi...  The Left would never engage in hypocrisy...  :D</p>
<p>You Left Wing Warrior, you!   :D</p>
<p>The Right wings calls for letters to the advertisers...  </p>
<p>What do you think those letters were saying??</p>
<p>Probably much the same thing when Right Wing groups wanted to boycott McDonalds and other advertisers of the MARRIED WITH CHILDREN show...</p>
<p>You can play semantic games all ya want..  </p>
<p>But it's clear that the Right Wing group was threatening a boycott of the advertisers of that TLC show..</p>
<p>Why else do you think the advertisers caved??</p>
<p>NOW the Left wing is slamming the advertisers for caving into the Right Wing boycott...</p>
<p>I guess the Left thinks that only THEIR boycotts should be adhered to...</p>
<p>Like I said...  Hilarious...  :D</p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17867</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And all are consistent with what I posted before. Muslim groups/left groups are calling for the boycott not the right as you have argued would be hypocrisy. 

All the stories have a variation on:

&lt;b&gt;The retail giant stopped advertising on TLC&#039;s &quot;All-American Muslim&quot; after a conservative group known as the Florida Family Association complained, saying the program was &quot;propaganda that riskily hides the Islamic agenda&#039;s clear and present danger to American liberties and traditional values.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

The Florida Family Association&#039;s website does not call for a boycott. It calls for those who agree to send an email to complain to sponsors and get them to not sponsor the show. It looks like that is pretty much all this group does.  

&lt;i&gt;Like I say, guys.. I AGREE with you.. It&#039;s a bunch of hulaballooo about nothing....

It&#039;s completely inane and moronic...&lt;/i&gt;

I agree it is, but so far you have not proven the hypocrisy from the left angle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all are consistent with what I posted before. Muslim groups/left groups are calling for the boycott not the right as you have argued would be hypocrisy. </p>
<p>All the stories have a variation on:</p>
<p><b>The retail giant stopped advertising on TLC's "All-American Muslim" after a conservative group known as the Florida Family Association complained, saying the program was "propaganda that riskily hides the Islamic agenda's clear and present danger to American liberties and traditional values."</b></p>
<p>The Florida Family Association's website does not call for a boycott. It calls for those who agree to send an email to complain to sponsors and get them to not sponsor the show. It looks like that is pretty much all this group does.  </p>
<p><i>Like I say, guys.. I AGREE with you.. It's a bunch of hulaballooo about nothing....</p>
<p>It's completely inane and moronic...</i></p>
<p>I agree it is, but so far you have not proven the hypocrisy from the left angle.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17866</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS --

ONE California legislator?  Please.

You can find ONE California legislator in favor of damn near anything from naming a green initiative after Pol Pot to open carry of AK-47&#039;s in the statehouse.

One legislator.  Right.  Real good Michale, Real good.  I forsee a solid future for you in Fox News.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS --</p>
<p>ONE California legislator?  Please.</p>
<p>You can find ONE California legislator in favor of damn near anything from naming a green initiative after Pol Pot to open carry of AK-47's in the statehouse.</p>
<p>One legislator.  Right.  Real good Michale, Real good.  I forsee a solid future for you in Fox News.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17865</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

You truly do epitomize the venerable ostrich, don&#039;tcha??  :D

If you choose to stick yer head in the sand, fine...  It&#039;s nice and safe there, I realize...  :D

Bashi,

Actually, those links were taken from the first page of the link I sent..

Like I say, guys.. I AGREE with you..  It&#039;s a bunch of hulaballooo about nothing....

It&#039;s completely inane and moronic...

But it IS happening...  :D

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF,</p>
<p>You truly do epitomize the venerable ostrich, don'tcha??  :D</p>
<p>If you choose to stick yer head in the sand, fine...  It's nice and safe there, I realize...  :D</p>
<p>Bashi,</p>
<p>Actually, those links were taken from the first page of the link I sent..</p>
<p>Like I say, guys.. I AGREE with you..  It's a bunch of hulaballooo about nothing....</p>
<p>It's completely inane and moronic...</p>
<p>But it IS happening...  :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17864</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. Your search did not link to that. Those stories said complained only.</description>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17863</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many CA lawmakers?  Don&#039;t know.  no reference
How many Leftist blogs?  Don&#039;t know.  no reference
Who on the Left Blogosphere?  Don&#039;t know.  No reference.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many CA lawmakers?  Don't know.  no reference<br />
How many Leftist blogs?  Don't know.  no reference<br />
Who on the Left Blogosphere?  Don't know.  No reference.</p>
<p>Like I said.  Change your name to Bill O'Reilly.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17862</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 21:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Bashi...  Apparently you and DF are &quot;missing something&quot;...  ;D



&lt;B&gt;After the Lowe&#039;s home-improvement giant pulled its ads from TLC&#039;s All-American Muslim reality show, a local state senator this weekend helped sparked what appears to be an all-out movement to boycott the chain&#039;s stores.&lt;/B&gt;
&lt;I&gt;laweekly.com/informer/2011/12/lowes_boycott_muslim_all-american_sen_ted_lieu.php&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;B&gt;LOS ANGELES – Angry calls for boycotting Lowe’s Home Improvement, the national hardware chain, are gaining support after the giant retail pulled its ads from a reality TV show on American Muslims, Bikyamasr website reported on Monday, December 12.

Calling the Lowe’s decision “un-American” and “naked religious bigotry,” Senator Ted Lieu, a Democrat from Torrance, started calls for boycotting the giant retail. &lt;/B&gt;
&lt;I&gt;onislam.net/english/news/americas/454982-lowes-face-boycott-over-tlc-muslim-show.html&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;B&gt;LOS ANGELES (KTLA) -- A California senator is threatening a boycott against homebuilding supply chain Lowe&#039;s after it pulled advertising from the reality TV show &quot;All-American Muslim.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
&lt;I&gt;ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-lowes-pulls-ads-from-muslim-reality-show,0,570740.story&lt;/I&gt;


Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Bashi...  Apparently you and DF are "missing something"...  ;D</p>
<p><b>After the Lowe's home-improvement giant pulled its ads from TLC's All-American Muslim reality show, a local state senator this weekend helped sparked what appears to be an all-out movement to boycott the chain's stores.</b><br />
<i>laweekly.com/informer/2011/12/lowes_boycott_muslim_all-american_sen_ted_lieu.php</i></p>
<p><b>LOS ANGELES – Angry calls for boycotting Lowe’s Home Improvement, the national hardware chain, are gaining support after the giant retail pulled its ads from a reality TV show on American Muslims, Bikyamasr website reported on Monday, December 12.</p>
<p>Calling the Lowe’s decision “un-American” and “naked religious bigotry,” Senator Ted Lieu, a Democrat from Torrance, started calls for boycotting the giant retail. </b><br />
<i>onislam.net/english/news/americas/454982-lowes-face-boycott-over-tlc-muslim-show.html</i></p>
<p><b>LOS ANGELES (KTLA) -- A California senator is threatening a boycott against homebuilding supply chain Lowe's after it pulled advertising from the reality TV show "All-American Muslim."</b><br />
<i>ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-lowes-pulls-ads-from-muslim-reality-show,0,570740.story</i></p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17861</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bashi,

Conservative groups in FL and other states threatened to boycott Lowe&#039;s because of it&#039;s advertising on the TLC show about Muslim families..

Lowes&#039; caved in and pulled their advertising from the show..

Now, the LEFT (in the form of California lawmakers, PACs and Leftist Blogs) have cried out that they will push a boycott of Lowes&#039; if Lowes&#039;s doesn&#039;t  restore it&#039;s advertising.

Like I told DF, ya&#039;all are preaching to the choir as to how utterly ridiculous it all is..

But YOU tell that to the Leftist blogs and California lawmakers that are pushing this crap..

They won&#039;t take my calls...   :D


Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bashi,</p>
<p>Conservative groups in FL and other states threatened to boycott Lowe's because of it's advertising on the TLC show about Muslim families..</p>
<p>Lowes' caved in and pulled their advertising from the show..</p>
<p>Now, the LEFT (in the form of California lawmakers, PACs and Leftist Blogs) have cried out that they will push a boycott of Lowes' if Lowes's doesn't  restore it's advertising.</p>
<p>Like I told DF, ya'all are preaching to the choir as to how utterly ridiculous it all is..</p>
<p>But YOU tell that to the Leftist blogs and California lawmakers that are pushing this crap..</p>
<p>They won't take my calls...   :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17859</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay, yer preaching to the choir..

It&#039;s the LEFT that&#039;s hyperventilating over the fact that Lowes&#039; pulled it&#039;s advertising from the TLC show..

It&#039;s actually hilarious..

Lowes&#039; pulled it&#039;s advertising from the show on threats from the Right of a boycott..

NOW, the LEFT is threatening to boycott Lowes&#039; &lt;B&gt;*BECAUSE*&lt;/B&gt; Lowes&#039; pulled it&#039;s advertising...

How frak&#039;in hilarious is that!!!???  :D

Simply more evidence that, when it comes to being political fanatics, there really isn&#039;t any difference between the Right and the Left...


Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay, yer preaching to the choir..</p>
<p>It's the LEFT that's hyperventilating over the fact that Lowes' pulled it's advertising from the TLC show..</p>
<p>It's actually hilarious..</p>
<p>Lowes' pulled it's advertising from the show on threats from the Right of a boycott..</p>
<p>NOW, the LEFT is threatening to boycott Lowes' <b>*BECAUSE*</b> Lowes' pulled it's advertising...</p>
<p>How frak'in hilarious is that!!!???  :D</p>
<p>Simply more evidence that, when it comes to being political fanatics, there really isn't any difference between the Right and the Left...</p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: BashiBazouk</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17858</link>
		<dc:creator>BashiBazouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh..am I missing something? I did not go beyond the first page but according to all the stories I read a conservative christian group &lt;b&gt;complained&lt;/b&gt;, not boycotted mind you, but complained about a Lowes Ad. Lowes pulled it and now some parts of the left in addition to muslim groups are calling for a boycott/talking about calling for a boycott. Where exactly is the right&#039;s boycott that the left is complaining about, cuss it&#039;s ain&#039;t in the stories your search linked to...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh..am I missing something? I did not go beyond the first page but according to all the stories I read a conservative christian group <b>complained</b>, not boycotted mind you, but complained about a Lowes Ad. Lowes pulled it and now some parts of the left in addition to muslim groups are calling for a boycott/talking about calling for a boycott. Where exactly is the right's boycott that the left is complaining about, cuss it's ain't in the stories your search linked to...</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17856</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THAT&#039;S what your talking about????

But I don&#039;t see actual boycotting going on.  EVERY SINGLE ENTRY on the first page uses terms like:
weigh boycott
Considering calling for
facing backlash
weigh boycott
heard expressions of anger, calls for boycott
so on, and so on, and so on.

These aren&#039;t boycotts.  Coor&#039;s Beer -- now THAT was a boycott.  I still won&#039;t drink that horse piss.  But this?

Nah.  You&#039;re hyperventilating over nothing but words from the same people quoted over and over again.  Change you name to Bill O&#039;reilly and try again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THAT'S what your talking about????</p>
<p>But I don't see actual boycotting going on.  EVERY SINGLE ENTRY on the first page uses terms like:<br />
weigh boycott<br />
Considering calling for<br />
facing backlash<br />
weigh boycott<br />
heard expressions of anger, calls for boycott<br />
so on, and so on, and so on.</p>
<p>These aren't boycotts.  Coor's Beer -- now THAT was a boycott.  I still won't drink that horse piss.  But this?</p>
<p>Nah.  You're hyperventilating over nothing but words from the same people quoted over and over again.  Change you name to Bill O'reilly and try again.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17855</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 20:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

Seriously???

You haven&#039;t heard of this???

What kind of politico are you!??  :D

http://www.google.com/search?q=Muslim%20Lowes%20Boycott&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;source=hp&amp;channel=np


Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF,</p>
<p>Seriously???</p>
<p>You haven't heard of this???</p>
<p>What kind of politico are you!??  :D</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Muslim%20Lowes%20Boycott&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;source=hp&amp;channel=np" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=Muslim%20Lowes%20Boycott&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;source=hp&amp;channel=np</a></p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17854</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crazy
1. Affected with madness; insane.
2. Informal: Departing from proportion or moderation

Gee, I must no longer be part of the Left.  I haven&#039;t heard of this boycott.  A quick review of my Hysterical Left blogs show no mention of this boycott.  

But after all, its Michale who is posting this.  It MUST be true.  Even if there is no reference.    Who&#039;d a thunk it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crazy" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crazy</a><br />
1. Affected with madness; insane.<br />
2. Informal: Departing from proportion or moderation</p>
<p>Gee, I must no longer be part of the Left.  I haven't heard of this boycott.  A quick review of my Hysterical Left blogs show no mention of this boycott.  </p>
<p>But after all, its Michale who is posting this.  It MUST be true.  Even if there is no reference.    Who'd a thunk it?</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17853</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;All of the sudden boycotts are evil, wrong and completely uncalled for...&lt;/I&gt;

Don&#039;t get me wrong.  My opinion of boycotts is the same, no matter where they come from..

It&#039;s tantamount to economic terrorism that invariably hurts the very people the boycott&#039;ers claim to represent or want to protect...

That opinion remains, regardless of what agenda the boycott serves..

I just think it&#039;s ironic that the Left, who has made boycott&#039;ing practically a national past-time, would be so hysterical about a Right inspired boycott...


Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>All of the sudden boycotts are evil, wrong and completely uncalled for...</i></p>
<p>Don't get me wrong.  My opinion of boycotts is the same, no matter where they come from..</p>
<p>It's tantamount to economic terrorism that invariably hurts the very people the boycott'ers claim to represent or want to protect...</p>
<p>That opinion remains, regardless of what agenda the boycott serves..</p>
<p>I just think it's ironic that the Left, who has made boycott'ing practically a national past-time, would be so hysterical about a Right inspired boycott...</p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17852</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, Michale, WHEN does intolerance become &quot;any means to the desired end&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Michale, WHEN does intolerance become "any means to the desired end"?</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17851</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another note...

Hypocrisy at it&#039;s finest...

The Left is always ready to use the power of boycotts at the drop of a dime..

But let a conservative movement use boycotts to further THEIR agenda and the Left and the Hysterical Left goes apeshit...

I am, of course, referring to the Lowes&#039; boycott against the TLC show showing Muslim American families...

All of the sudden boycotts are evil, wrong and completely uncalled for...

As I said....  Hypocrisy at it&#039;s finest...

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another note...</p>
<p>Hypocrisy at it's finest...</p>
<p>The Left is always ready to use the power of boycotts at the drop of a dime..</p>
<p>But let a conservative movement use boycotts to further THEIR agenda and the Left and the Hysterical Left goes apeshit...</p>
<p>I am, of course, referring to the Lowes' boycott against the TLC show showing Muslim American families...</p>
<p>All of the sudden boycotts are evil, wrong and completely uncalled for...</p>
<p>As I said....  Hypocrisy at it's finest...</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17847</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DF,

&lt;I&gt;Unfortunately, most political intolerance comes when someone decides that THIS intolerance (fill in the blank) is justified because of circumstances ... the ends justify the means.&lt;/I&gt;

I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself...  :D

Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DF,</p>
<p><i>Unfortunately, most political intolerance comes when someone decides that THIS intolerance (fill in the blank) is justified because of circumstances ... the ends justify the means.</i></p>
<p>I couldn't have said it better myself...  :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17845</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the Stonekettle article and was totally blown away.  He hit the nail exactly on the head, and explained it in such a way that anyone not braindead and/or brainwashed can understand it.  Not an easy task.

I particularly liked his reference to the bumber sticker: Tolerance is for those who lack conviction.  The end result of intolerance is far too easy to see to be mistaken here.  Unfortunately, most political intolerance comes when someone decides that THIS intolerance (fill in the blank) is justified because of circumstances ... the ends justify the means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the Stonekettle article and was totally blown away.  He hit the nail exactly on the head, and explained it in such a way that anyone not braindead and/or brainwashed can understand it.  Not an easy task.</p>
<p>I particularly liked his reference to the bumber sticker: Tolerance is for those who lack conviction.  The end result of intolerance is far too easy to see to be mistaken here.  Unfortunately, most political intolerance comes when someone decides that THIS intolerance (fill in the blank) is justified because of circumstances ... the ends justify the means.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17843</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 13:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsws -
When I got excited about the I said it first, I meant that I said it on my blog.  I&#039;m not really sure about the standards of conduct about linking to your own blog in someone else&#039;s blog.  It feels like its not quite right ... like knocking calling someones son an old geezer.  Not quite done, don&#039;cha know.

As far as aid and/or comfort, it would depend upon how badly you wanted to mess up the donor.  Giving $$$ to a homeless person while cursing him for his smell is giving aid but not comfort.  Giving that same homeless man a rose and telling him to take heart, things will get better is giving him comfort but not aid (from the point of view of the donor).  Doing both would be aid and comfort.  So why do you want to hang this dude anyway???

Parenthetically, I believe the term OR is &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;correct&lt;/a&gt;.  The intent is clearly to treat the accessory as a principal, and the inducement of charging is clearly up to the the prosecuting entity.

What the hell happened to the Preview????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dsws -<br />
When I got excited about the I said it first, I meant that I said it on my blog.  I'm not really sure about the standards of conduct about linking to your own blog in someone else's blog.  It feels like its not quite right ... like knocking calling someones son an old geezer.  Not quite done, don'cha know.</p>
<p>As far as aid and/or comfort, it would depend upon how badly you wanted to mess up the donor.  Giving $$$ to a homeless person while cursing him for his smell is giving aid but not comfort.  Giving that same homeless man a rose and telling him to take heart, things will get better is giving him comfort but not aid (from the point of view of the donor).  Doing both would be aid and comfort.  So why do you want to hang this dude anyway???</p>
<p>Parenthetically, I believe the term OR is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiding_and_abetting" rel="nofollow">correct</a>.  The intent is clearly to treat the accessory as a principal, and the inducement of charging is clearly up to the the prosecuting entity.</p>
<p>What the hell happened to the Preview????</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17841</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsws,

&lt;I&gt;New question for grammatical/semantical nitpickery: Should that have been &quot;any aid or comfort&quot; instead of &quot;any aid and comfort&quot;? Obviously, I went with &quot;and&quot;.&lt;/I&gt;

Of course, if you are a MY COUSIN VINNY aficionado, then....

&lt;B&gt;&quot;aidn&#039; an&#039; abetin&#039;!&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Sheriff Farley, MY COUSIN VINNY

:D

Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dsws,</p>
<p><i>New question for grammatical/semantical nitpickery: Should that have been "any aid or comfort" instead of "any aid and comfort"? Obviously, I went with "and".</i></p>
<p>Of course, if you are a MY COUSIN VINNY aficionado, then....</p>
<p><b>"aidn' an' abetin'!"</b><br />
-Sheriff Farley, MY COUSIN VINNY</p>
<p>:D</p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17840</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsws,

&lt;I&gt;Total war is so catastrophic that it will happen at most once more. &lt;/I&gt;

&lt;B&gt;&quot;I don&#039;t know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but I do know that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Albert Einstein

&lt;I&gt;Taking von Clausewitz&#039;s romantic notions seriously was part of the soil the Great War and its sequel grew in. Teddy Roosevelt loved a great struggle. You could have a &quot;splendid little war&quot; then.&lt;/I&gt;

&lt;B&gt;Capt. Ramsey: &quot;You do qualify your remarks. If someone asked me if we should bomb Japan, a simple &#039;Yes. By all means sir, drop that fucker, twice!&#039; I don&#039;t mean to suggest that you&#039;re indecisive, Mr. Hunter. Not at all. Just, uh... complicated. Course, that&#039;s the way the Navy wants you. Me, they wanted simple.&quot;
    
Hunter: &quot;Well, you certainly fooled them, sir.&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: [chuckles] &quot;Be careful there, Mr. Hunter. It&#039;s all I&#039;ve got to rely on, being a simple-minded son of a bitch. Rickover gave me my command, a checklist, a target and a button to push. All I gotta know is how to push it, they tell me when. They seem to want you to know why.&quot;

Hunter: &quot;I would hope they&#039;d want us all to know why, sir&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: &quot;At the Naval War College it was metallurgy and nuclear reactors, not 19th-century philosophy. &#039;War is a continuation of politics by other means.&#039; -Von Clausewitz.&quot;
    
Hunter: &quot;I think, sir, that what he was actually trying to say was a little more -&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: &quot;- Complicated?&quot;

Hunter: &quot;Yes the purpose of war is to serve a political end but the true nature of war is to serve itself.&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: [Laughing] &quot;I&#039;m very impressed. In other words, the sailor most likely to win the war is the one most willing to part company with the politicians and ignore everything except the destruction of the enemy. You&#039;d agree with that.&quot;

Hunter: &quot;I&#039;d agree that, um, that&#039;s what Clausewitz was trying to say.&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: &quot;But you wouldn&#039;t agree with it?

Hunter: &quot;No, sir, I do not. No, I just think that in the nuclear world the true enemy can&#039;t be destroyed.&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: [Chuckling, tapping glass] &quot;Attention on deck. Von Clausewitz will now tell us exactly who the real enemy is.&quot;

Capt. Ramsey: &quot;Von?&quot;

Hunter: &quot;In my humble opinion, in the nuclear world, the true enemy is war itself.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-CRIMSON TIDE


&lt;I&gt;New question for grammatical/semantical nitpickery: Should that have been &quot;any aid or comfort&quot; instead of &quot;any aid and comfort&quot;? Obviously, I went with &quot;and&quot;.&lt;/I&gt;

My two cents..

From a legal standpoint, I am of the opinion that &quot;aid or comfort&quot; should be the correct choice, of the two you gave..

However, to be perfectly accurate in the description of the legal charge, I think &quot;aid and/or comfort&quot; would be the best choice.

CW,

WOOT!!!!!  :D  Still have lots o&#039; time!!!  :D

Michale...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dsws,</p>
<p><i>Total war is so catastrophic that it will happen at most once more. </i></p>
<p><b>"I don't know what weapons World War III will be fought with, but I do know that World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."</b><br />
-Albert Einstein</p>
<p><i>Taking von Clausewitz's romantic notions seriously was part of the soil the Great War and its sequel grew in. Teddy Roosevelt loved a great struggle. You could have a "splendid little war" then.</i></p>
<p><b>Capt. Ramsey: "You do qualify your remarks. If someone asked me if we should bomb Japan, a simple 'Yes. By all means sir, drop that fucker, twice!' I don't mean to suggest that you're indecisive, Mr. Hunter. Not at all. Just, uh... complicated. Course, that's the way the Navy wants you. Me, they wanted simple."</p>
<p>Hunter: "Well, you certainly fooled them, sir."</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: [chuckles] "Be careful there, Mr. Hunter. It's all I've got to rely on, being a simple-minded son of a bitch. Rickover gave me my command, a checklist, a target and a button to push. All I gotta know is how to push it, they tell me when. They seem to want you to know why."</p>
<p>Hunter: "I would hope they'd want us all to know why, sir"</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: "At the Naval War College it was metallurgy and nuclear reactors, not 19th-century philosophy. 'War is a continuation of politics by other means.' -Von Clausewitz."</p>
<p>Hunter: "I think, sir, that what he was actually trying to say was a little more -"</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: "- Complicated?"</p>
<p>Hunter: "Yes the purpose of war is to serve a political end but the true nature of war is to serve itself."</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: [Laughing] "I'm very impressed. In other words, the sailor most likely to win the war is the one most willing to part company with the politicians and ignore everything except the destruction of the enemy. You'd agree with that."</p>
<p>Hunter: "I'd agree that, um, that's what Clausewitz was trying to say."</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: "But you wouldn't agree with it?</p>
<p>Hunter: "No, sir, I do not. No, I just think that in the nuclear world the true enemy can't be destroyed."</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: [Chuckling, tapping glass] "Attention on deck. Von Clausewitz will now tell us exactly who the real enemy is."</p>
<p>Capt. Ramsey: "Von?"</p>
<p>Hunter: "In my humble opinion, in the nuclear world, the true enemy is war itself."</b><br />
-CRIMSON TIDE</p>
<p><i>New question for grammatical/semantical nitpickery: Should that have been "any aid or comfort" instead of "any aid and comfort"? Obviously, I went with "and".</i></p>
<p>My two cents..</p>
<p>From a legal standpoint, I am of the opinion that "aid or comfort" should be the correct choice, of the two you gave..</p>
<p>However, to be perfectly accurate in the description of the legal charge, I think "aid and/or comfort" would be the best choice.</p>
<p>CW,</p>
<p>WOOT!!!!!  :D  Still have lots o' time!!!  :D</p>
<p>Michale...<br />
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17838</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Update:&lt;/strong&gt;

Woo hoo!  We&#039;ve passed halfway towards our fundraising goal!

I&#039;ll get to answering comments a bit later, as I spent all weekend hanging lights and dealing with trees and other seasonal stuff.

Just wanted to say &quot;Woo hoo!&quot;  Less than halfway to go, folks...

:-)

-CW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Update:</strong></p>
<p>Woo hoo!  We've passed halfway towards our fundraising goal!</p>
<p>I'll get to answering comments a bit later, as I spent all weekend hanging lights and dealing with trees and other seasonal stuff.</p>
<p>Just wanted to say "Woo hoo!"  Less than halfway to go, folks...</p>
<p>:-)</p>
<p>-CW</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17836</link>
		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stonekettle wrote, as linked in &lt;b&gt;[11]&lt;/b&gt;:
&lt;i&gt;Until there is a fundamental change in human nature, war and conflict will be a necessary evil.&lt;/i&gt;

The tendencies in human nature that have contributed to violent conflict will persist until and unless there is a sufficient change in human nature to remove them.  That&#039;s darn near a tautology.  However, those tendencies need not continue always to lead to the particular sort of large-scale, organized, unlimited conflict that constitutes war.

Total war is so catastrophic that it will happen at most once more.  Everyone should be able to understand that it must be prevented, almost no matter what.  Limited war looks different now, in that light, than it did when it was a fool&#039;s detour on the way to total war.  

Taking von Clausewitz&#039;s romantic notions seriously was part of the soil the Great War and its sequel grew in.  Teddy Roosevelt loved a great struggle.  You could have a &quot;splendid little war&quot; then.

Today, even after learning the lessons of Viet Nam, we could still try to have a splendid little war, to offer any would-be Teddy Roosevelt the chance to prove his manhood.  We did try, and the result was a fiasco.

Even as human nature stays the same, the institutions and calculations can change.

--

On the main point of the article, he&#039;s right.  Or rather, he&#039;s correct: he has become &quot;left&quot; despite having stayed in the same place.  I&#039;ve moved to the right over the years, objectively, as I&#039;ve tried to find any and all grains of truth in positions I disagree with.  I&#039;ve gained some appreciation for old-fashioned conservatism.  But I&#039;ve gone from center-left to far-left as the political spectrum has shifted to the right much, much faster than I have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stonekettle wrote, as linked in <b>[11]</b>:<br />
<i>Until there is a fundamental change in human nature, war and conflict will be a necessary evil.</i></p>
<p>The tendencies in human nature that have contributed to violent conflict will persist until and unless there is a sufficient change in human nature to remove them.  That's darn near a tautology.  However, those tendencies need not continue always to lead to the particular sort of large-scale, organized, unlimited conflict that constitutes war.</p>
<p>Total war is so catastrophic that it will happen at most once more.  Everyone should be able to understand that it must be prevented, almost no matter what.  Limited war looks different now, in that light, than it did when it was a fool's detour on the way to total war.  </p>
<p>Taking von Clausewitz's romantic notions seriously was part of the soil the Great War and its sequel grew in.  Teddy Roosevelt loved a great struggle.  You could have a "splendid little war" then.</p>
<p>Today, even after learning the lessons of Viet Nam, we could still try to have a splendid little war, to offer any would-be Teddy Roosevelt the chance to prove his manhood.  We did try, and the result was a fiasco.</p>
<p>Even as human nature stays the same, the institutions and calculations can change.</p>
<p>--</p>
<p>On the main point of the article, he's right.  Or rather, he's correct: he has become "left" despite having stayed in the same place.  I've moved to the right over the years, objectively, as I've tried to find any and all grains of truth in positions I disagree with.  I've gained some appreciation for old-fashioned conservatism.  But I've gone from center-left to far-left as the political spectrum has shifted to the right much, much faster than I have.</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New question for grammatical/semantical nitpickery: Should that have been &quot;any aid or comfort&quot; instead of &quot;any aid and comfort&quot;?  Obviously, I went with &quot;and&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New question for grammatical/semantical nitpickery: Should that have been "any aid or comfort" instead of "any aid and comfort"?  Obviously, I went with "and".</p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 22:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m happy just so long as þe expert hasn&#039;t given any aid and comfort to the doctrine of inherency.

&lt;i&gt;I said it first (12/2/11)!&lt;/i&gt;

I admit I&#039;ve bought into the Romney ascendancy in recent months.  But back in June I couldn&#039;t take him seriously as a front-runner: http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/06/13/the-2012-republican-presidential-field/#comment-14734

(The other &quot;front-runner&quot; at the time was none other than Sarah Palin.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm happy just so long as þe expert hasn't given any aid and comfort to the doctrine of inherency.</p>
<p><i>I said it first (12/2/11)!</i></p>
<p>I admit I've bought into the Romney ascendancy in recent months.  But back in June I couldn't take him seriously as a front-runner: <a href="http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/06/13/the-2012-republican-presidential-field/#comment-14734" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/06/13/the-2012-republican-presidential-field/#comment-14734</a></p>
<p>(The other "front-runner" at the time was none other than Sarah Palin.)</p>
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		<title>By: nypoet22</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>update on &quot;y&#039;all&quot;

the resident expert has nothing to add to what i wrote. it&#039;s a second person pronoun contraction, both nominative and objective, gender neutral, familiar plural but can also be used either as the formal singular (which no longer exists in standard english, e.g. thou/thee), or collective (your type).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>update on "y'all"</p>
<p>the resident expert has nothing to add to what i wrote. it's a second person pronoun contraction, both nominative and objective, gender neutral, familiar plural but can also be used either as the formal singular (which no longer exists in standard english, e.g. thou/thee), or collective (your type).</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so sorry to be off topic yet again, but this guy keeps hitting it out of the park...

http://www.stonekettle.com/2011/12/everybodys-so-different-i-havent.html

This should be required reading for everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm so sorry to be off topic yet again, but this guy keeps hitting it out of the park...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stonekettle.com/2011/12/everybodys-so-different-i-havent.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.stonekettle.com/2011/12/everybodys-so-different-i-havent.html</a></p>
<p>This should be required reading for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17827</link>
		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 15:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many bloggers and news organizations are currently proclaiming the reality that ROMNEY HAS LOST.

I&#039;m not so sure that it&#039;s a done deal but &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;I said it first (12/2/11)!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many bloggers and news organizations are currently proclaiming the reality that ROMNEY HAS LOST.</p>
<p>I'm not so sure that it's a done deal but <b><i>I said it first (12/2/11)!</i></b></p>
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		<title>By: dsws</title>
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		<dc:creator>dsws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 14:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m running it like this for 12 hours or so to see if it appears the same to everyone else.&lt;/i&gt;

Yep, that&#039;s how it shows up for me in Firefox (on Ubuntu Linux).  ... Just checked Chrome, and it shows the same there too.

Even though Saturday had come and gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I'm running it like this for 12 hours or so to see if it appears the same to everyone else.</i></p>
<p>Yep, that's how it shows up for me in Firefox (on Ubuntu Linux).  ... Just checked Chrome, and it shows the same there too.</p>
<p>Even though Saturday had come and gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17814</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 20:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On another, unrelated note.....

http://www.funnyjokeshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/391876_10150517132986654_386056616653_10748477_255610661_n.jpg

Ever have one of those days at the office??   :D


Michale...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On another, unrelated note.....</p>
<p><a href="http://www.funnyjokeshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/391876_10150517132986654_386056616653_10748477_255610661_n.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.funnyjokeshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/391876_10150517132986654_386056616653_10748477_255610661_n.jpg</a></p>
<p>Ever have one of those days at the office??   :D</p>
<p>Michale...<br />
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AND ANOTHER THING!!!!

I don&#039;t watch any tv (I actually don&#039;t have one) but I do read 3 newspapers.

In the past 2 weeks (more or less) there have several pieces about Elizabeth Warren, several about Karl Rove/AXR/big outside $$$ and NOT several about Scott Brown.

If I were a major party incumbent running for state-wide office, I&#039;d be kinda weirded out that my opponent and a sneered at ally were out newsing me in a small state.

I don&#039;t think this will keep up and the article imbalance will right itself, all else being equal.  But an incumbent being behind in both the polls and newscycle impact has got to be worrying. But then anyone who thinks Rove actually cares what Brown thinks would buy my land in SE Louisiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND ANOTHER THING!!!!</p>
<p>I don't watch any tv (I actually don't have one) but I do read 3 newspapers.</p>
<p>In the past 2 weeks (more or less) there have several pieces about Elizabeth Warren, several about Karl Rove/AXR/big outside $$$ and NOT several about Scott Brown.</p>
<p>If I were a major party incumbent running for state-wide office, I'd be kinda weirded out that my opponent and a sneered at ally were out newsing me in a small state.</p>
<p>I don't think this will keep up and the article imbalance will right itself, all else being equal.  But an incumbent being behind in both the polls and newscycle impact has got to be worrying. But then anyone who thinks Rove actually cares what Brown thinks would buy my land in SE Louisiana.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the Rovian non-knowledge of Massachusetts.

I lived most of my adult life in the Deep South.  Down there admiring persons courage, integrity and honour is roughly akin to dating a girl with a nice personality.  You might admire it, but you don&#039;t vote it.

Pretty much goes for up here, except for a term called &lt;a href=&quot;http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moxie&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;moxie&lt;/a&gt;.  &quot;courage and aggressiveness; nerve.&quot;  
The definition is not really accurate.  

An example would be if a young man (say 10yo) stood up to a more or less equal bully and defeated him in a fist fight ... that would be described as COURAGE.  Now a situation where an 8yo girl calls a 10yo boy (YOUR SON) a shithead and then proceeds to make a fistfight of it ... win, lose or draw, THAT would be moxie.  You don&#039;t admire the act, you admire the sheer unmitigated gall of the person doing it.

The difference between the South and the NE is that the NE is willing to vote for moxie ... even if you don&#039;t like the person, the person&#039;s politics, or the person&#039;s manner.

I&#039;ve heard the term moxie applied to Elizabeth Warren.  Not to Scott Brown.  Karl Rove does not know the term at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the Rovian non-knowledge of Massachusetts.</p>
<p>I lived most of my adult life in the Deep South.  Down there admiring persons courage, integrity and honour is roughly akin to dating a girl with a nice personality.  You might admire it, but you don't vote it.</p>
<p>Pretty much goes for up here, except for a term called <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/moxie" rel="nofollow">moxie</a>.  "courage and aggressiveness; nerve."<br />
The definition is not really accurate.  </p>
<p>An example would be if a young man (say 10yo) stood up to a more or less equal bully and defeated him in a fist fight ... that would be described as COURAGE.  Now a situation where an 8yo girl calls a 10yo boy (YOUR SON) a shithead and then proceeds to make a fistfight of it ... win, lose or draw, THAT would be moxie.  You don't admire the act, you admire the sheer unmitigated gall of the person doing it.</p>
<p>The difference between the South and the NE is that the NE is willing to vote for moxie ... even if you don't like the person, the person's politics, or the person's manner.</p>
<p>I've heard the term moxie applied to Elizabeth Warren.  Not to Scott Brown.  Karl Rove does not know the term at all.</p>
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		<title>By: DerFarm</title>
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		<dc:creator>DerFarm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 15:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in the land of Massholes, we watch with baited breath (no really, lots of fishing going on up here) for the next kitchen sink to be slung at Mizz Warren.  All the first set of ads did was to increase name recognition.

Karl Rove has not lost his touch, he just doesn&#039;t know didly about small state politics.  Karl Rove&#039;s entire playbook consists of (re-)defining the public personna of the opposition nominee.  In a large state where the nominee is not well known, this is relatively easy if you have the $$$ (see:Ohio/Kerry).  In a small state ... not so much.  Quite frankly, Warren could visit and speak at every damn population center &gt; 500 in the State in the next 6 months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in the land of Massholes, we watch with baited breath (no really, lots of fishing going on up here) for the next kitchen sink to be slung at Mizz Warren.  All the first set of ads did was to increase name recognition.</p>
<p>Karl Rove has not lost his touch, he just doesn't know didly about small state politics.  Karl Rove's entire playbook consists of (re-)defining the public personna of the opposition nominee.  In a large state where the nominee is not well known, this is relatively easy if you have the $$$ (see:Ohio/Kerry).  In a small state ... not so much.  Quite frankly, Warren could visit and speak at every damn population center &gt; 500 in the State in the next 6 months.</p>
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
		<link>http://www.chrisweigant.com/2011/12/09/ftp191/#comment-17807</link>
		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Unless Wall Street is giving Democrats hundreds of thousands of dollars.. Then, the Democratic Party is Wall Street&#039;s bitch.&lt;/I&gt;

For the record, there is no doubt in my mind that the GOP is ALSO Wall Street&#039;s bitch..

But at least the GOP is pretty straight-forward about it..


Michale.....
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Unless Wall Street is giving Democrats hundreds of thousands of dollars.. Then, the Democratic Party is Wall Street's bitch.</i></p>
<p>For the record, there is no doubt in my mind that the GOP is ALSO Wall Street's bitch..</p>
<p>But at least the GOP is pretty straight-forward about it..</p>
<p>Michale.....<br />
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		<title>By: Michale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Obama also gave a wowzer of a good speech this week in Kansas,&lt;/I&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t consider a 3-Pinocchio speech to be a &quot;wowzer&quot;.. Oh, I&#039;ll grant you, the rhetoric was good.  But it usually is...

But the speech was short on facts.  And the facts it DID state were so horribly mangled to fit a certain agenda, they were completely useless..

It was a great campaign speech.  But Obama is always at his best when he is campaigning..

He is always at his worst when governing, however..

We need a &quot;wowzer&quot; of a governing speech....


&lt;I&gt;For her campaign getting stronger by the week, and for her strong reaction to the Rove ads (more on this in the talking points), Elizabeth Warren is our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week this week.&lt;/I&gt;

I won&#039;t begrudge ya&#039;all this, as it&#039;s likely the ONLY bright spot Dems will see in the 2012 Elections.

&lt;I&gt;She overruled science for purely political reasons.&lt;/I&gt;

That&#039;s the Obama administration in a nutshell..

&lt;I&gt;For shame, Secretary Sebelius. For shame, President Obama. So much for making &quot;science-based&quot; decisions, eh? &lt;/I&gt;

I saids it before and I&#039;ll says it again..

This is what happens when our president and our government uses policy based evidence making instead of evidence based policy making..

&lt;I&gt; Democrats are for consumers, not Wall Street&lt;/I&gt;

Unless Wall Street is giving Democrats hundreds of thousands of dollars..  Then, the Democratic Party is Wall Street&#039;s bitch.

&lt;B&gt;&quot;I know that you&#039;re talking because I see your lips moving, but I can&#039;t understand you because I don&#039;t speak little bitch.&quot;&lt;/B&gt;
-Demon, SUPERNATURAL, Caged Heat

Ya lose the real good effect in print, but trust me.  When you hear it, this line was pure gold..  :D


&lt;I&gt;Recess!&lt;/I&gt;

Oh yes, King Obama gets to override Congress once again..  

I really have to wonder what ya&#039;all will say when the next GOP president wields this kind of power... It&#039;s going to be interesting, to say the least..  :D


&lt;I&gt;Two million checks will stop&lt;/I&gt;

Can I ask ya&#039;all something???

Where is the incentive to go find a job, if the government is going to keep paying you and paying you NOT to work???

I mean, seriously..  OVER TWO YEARS!!!?????

If a person can&#039;t find a job in six months, then there is something seriously wrong.

Unemployment should cease after 6 months...

&lt;I&gt;(1.) an ad against her saying she&#039;s with the Occupy Wall Street crowd, which was closely followed by (2.) an ad against her implying she has a much-too-cozy relationship with Wall Street. Really -- you just can&#039;t make this stuff up, folks. &lt;/I&gt;

Is that really such a stretch??

President Obama does it all the time..

Says he is with the now-defunct Oowzwers, yet spoons with Wall Street....

Why can&#039;t Warren be doing the same thing??


PREVIEW is looking great, CW!!!  :D


Michale
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama also gave a wowzer of a good speech this week in Kansas,</i></p>
<p>I wouldn't consider a 3-Pinocchio speech to be a "wowzer".. Oh, I'll grant you, the rhetoric was good.  But it usually is...</p>
<p>But the speech was short on facts.  And the facts it DID state were so horribly mangled to fit a certain agenda, they were completely useless..</p>
<p>It was a great campaign speech.  But Obama is always at his best when he is campaigning..</p>
<p>He is always at his worst when governing, however..</p>
<p>We need a "wowzer" of a governing speech....</p>
<p><i>For her campaign getting stronger by the week, and for her strong reaction to the Rove ads (more on this in the talking points), Elizabeth Warren is our Most Impressive Democrat Of The Week this week.</i></p>
<p>I won't begrudge ya'all this, as it's likely the ONLY bright spot Dems will see in the 2012 Elections.</p>
<p><i>She overruled science for purely political reasons.</i></p>
<p>That's the Obama administration in a nutshell..</p>
<p><i>For shame, Secretary Sebelius. For shame, President Obama. So much for making "science-based" decisions, eh? </i></p>
<p>I saids it before and I'll says it again..</p>
<p>This is what happens when our president and our government uses policy based evidence making instead of evidence based policy making..</p>
<p><i> Democrats are for consumers, not Wall Street</i></p>
<p>Unless Wall Street is giving Democrats hundreds of thousands of dollars..  Then, the Democratic Party is Wall Street's bitch.</p>
<p><b>"I know that you're talking because I see your lips moving, but I can't understand you because I don't speak little bitch."</b><br />
-Demon, SUPERNATURAL, Caged Heat</p>
<p>Ya lose the real good effect in print, but trust me.  When you hear it, this line was pure gold..  :D</p>
<p><i>Recess!</i></p>
<p>Oh yes, King Obama gets to override Congress once again..  </p>
<p>I really have to wonder what ya'all will say when the next GOP president wields this kind of power... It's going to be interesting, to say the least..  :D</p>
<p><i>Two million checks will stop</i></p>
<p>Can I ask ya'all something???</p>
<p>Where is the incentive to go find a job, if the government is going to keep paying you and paying you NOT to work???</p>
<p>I mean, seriously..  OVER TWO YEARS!!!?????</p>
<p>If a person can't find a job in six months, then there is something seriously wrong.</p>
<p>Unemployment should cease after 6 months...</p>
<p><i>(1.) an ad against her saying she's with the Occupy Wall Street crowd, which was closely followed by (2.) an ad against her implying she has a much-too-cozy relationship with Wall Street. Really -- you just can't make this stuff up, folks. </i></p>
<p>Is that really such a stretch??</p>
<p>President Obama does it all the time..</p>
<p>Says he is with the now-defunct Oowzwers, yet spoons with Wall Street....</p>
<p>Why can't Warren be doing the same thing??</p>
<p>PREVIEW is looking great, CW!!!  :D</p>
<p>Michale<br />
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		<title>By: Osborne Ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osborne Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[The bill] is a mad solution to an imaginary problem.&quot;

Tilting at windmills of their own construction.</description>
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<p>Tilting at windmills of their own construction.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weigant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Weigant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 06:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Beta Testing Continues...&lt;/strong&gt;

Two changes, everyone.

(1) There is now a &quot;Donate!&quot; button in the top menu.  Let me know if it looks weird.  

It takes you directly to the PayPal donate page, which might be a little confusing.  I can make this point to the &quot;Holiday Fundraising Drive!&quot; page, if people think that might be better, so let me know.

(2) The Preview is half-broken, and half-fixed.  What it now shows me are: correct pagaraph breaks and single line breaks, and correct tags like &quot;bold&quot; -- but in the wrong font, and with no word-wrap (long paragraphs just trail off to the right side...)

I know this is semi-broken, but I&#039;m running it like this for 12 hours or so to see if it appears the same to everyone else.  I&#039;ll set it back to the other semi-broken state on Saturday, promise.  It&#039;s just kind of a test.

Anyway, that&#039;s it for now.

&lt;strong&gt;-CW&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p>Two changes, everyone.</p>
<p>(1) There is now a "Donate!" button in the top menu.  Let me know if it looks weird.  </p>
<p>It takes you directly to the PayPal donate page, which might be a little confusing.  I can make this point to the "Holiday Fundraising Drive!" page, if people think that might be better, so let me know.</p>
<p>(2) The Preview is half-broken, and half-fixed.  What it now shows me are: correct pagaraph breaks and single line breaks, and correct tags like "bold" -- but in the wrong font, and with no word-wrap (long paragraphs just trail off to the right side...)</p>
<p>I know this is semi-broken, but I'm running it like this for 12 hours or so to see if it appears the same to everyone else.  I'll set it back to the other semi-broken state on Saturday, promise.  It's just kind of a test.</p>
<p>Anyway, that's it for now.</p>
<p><strong>-CW</strong></p>
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