A world w/o 7 of 9 would be a dreary place indeed... :D

Wish I had one of those "What If" machines to see what this country would be like if Jack & Jeri Ryan were still happily married.... :D

Michale.....

I think it'd be interesting to see a Cain-Obama match, for obvious reasons. I thought the Fiorina-Boxer race for Senate out here was interesting too, because both being women was barely even mentioned as an issue. This fulfilled a feminist quote (which I am too lazy to look up) from years earlier about a woman running for office: "It won't be a big day when a woman runs for high office, it will be a big day when TWO women run for that office, and nobody even notices."

Same sort of dynamic with Cain-Obama, although you can bet that it WILL be noticed, big time. Maybe the next time it happens, it'll be no big deal, though. Progress is slow....

dsws [8] -

I (and Michale with me) will never forget that Seven Of Nine created Barack Obama The Politician. [Hint: Look up Jeri Ryan, and why her husband dropped out of the race.]

:-)

dsws [9] -

Romney might do better if there were two strong anti-Romneys at the same time... I'm just sayin'...

-CW

Woops Double negative there...

Strike that to read...

"I doubt that the economy was a big factor in the 2004 Illinois Senate race...."

To expand on that (perhaps needlessly) barring a major terrorist attack in the next 12 months, the economy will the be numero uno issue of the 2012 election..

It's actually ironic. Given Obama's foreign policy and CT successes of the last couple years, a major terrorist attack on US proper might be a big boon to his re-election campaign.

Who would have thunked that a Carter-esque Democrat President could actually be saved by a terrorist attack on US soil...

"Strange times..."
-Dean Winchester, SUPERNATURAL

Michale.....

With race not a factor,

I wish I had your faith in humanity..

As much as I would love to see that, I just can't see race NOT being a factor..

and establishment Republicans not taking their candidate seriously,

You are, of course, assuming Cain would not be taken seriously... :D

Obama would win in a walk.

I doubt that the economy wasn't a big factor in the 2004 Illinois Senate race....

Michale.....

There can be only one anybody-but-Romney pick-of-the-week. Well, one at a time, anyway.

A lot like the dynamics of the 2004 election for US Senator from Illinois after Jack Ryan was out of the running. With race not a factor, and establishment Republicans not taking their candidate seriously, Obama would win in a walk.

I have to agree... It's weird..

And a total turn-off to me...

It's why I could never get into MadMen... :D

Michale.....

Heheheh. I just don't understand what the smoking shot has to do w/ anything else. It's just bizarre.

Hay, I thought I was the smoking nazi around here... :D

3) Herman is going to put the "United" back in United States? Did he just really say that?

Why not??

It worked for Barack There-Are-No-Red-States-Are-No-Blue-States-Only-United-States Obama..

The difference is, we NOW know that Obama was full of bovine feces....

Time will tell if Cain is as well...

"That rhymes Marge, and you know it!!"
-Homer Simpson

:D

Michale....

1) Is that Herman Cain's campaign manager endorsing Herman Cain? He couldn't find anyone else?
2) Why is he smoking?
3) Herman is going to put the "United" back in United States? Did he just really say that?

-David

What do ya'all think the dynamics of a Cain v Obama would be like..

On the surface, it would seem to eliminate "the race card" completely. No one could make race an issue because both candidates are black.

However, I think the reality though would be just the opposite..

Given the acrimony and the US vs THEM mentality that has been growing exponentially in political circles.....

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ed4439d4-fbeb-11e0-9283-00144feab49a.html

..... I think that race would become MORE of an issue.

A prelude to what an Obama v Cain contest could look like came with Cain's statement that Obama never really had "the black experience".. Whatever that is...

A Cain v Obama contest would be a really interesting event to witness, to be sure...

Michale.....

Lemme ask ya something, Matt...

How would you feel if a large group of Americans pointed to your statements against Cain and accused you of being racist. Especially with your "bring on Alan Keyes, I mean Herman Cain." statement. This group could throw the accusation at you, that you think all black people look alike..

Think about it, Matt.. In your mind, you have perfectly legitimate and reasonable issues with Cain and what he stands for.

How would it make you feel if a large group of your fellow Americans reduced all your reason and logic down to one blatantly false accusation.

You don't like Cain because you are a racist..

Hope this makes you think for a moment...

Here's a possibility, Chris. Suppose the process starts to play out next Summer, and Obama leads the winner by a mile. Is it fair to say the GOP will throw its attention and money on taking the Senate? Because that worries me.

You have nothing to worry about, Matt.

Barring some cataclysmic catastrophe that gives Democrats the opportunity to be the saviors of the known universe, the GOP will gain the White House and the Senate with ease..

2012 will make 2010 look positively like a Left Love fest by comparison..

Remember, you heard it here first... :D

Michale....

And please: bring on Alan Keyes, I mean Herman Cain. Please, I haven't been this happy about a matchup since Tim James threw his pandering hat in the ring and stepped into the lens in what seemed to be an "awkward pauses" routine. Cain will flame out, too. He can't help himself.

But I have to say I'm also excited by Newt. He's still at one in ten -- not bad, having lost as many staffers as Bachmann and still going on credit. Can he take Romney?

Here's a possibility, Chris. Suppose the process starts to play out next Summer, and Obama leads the winner by a mile. Is it fair to say the GOP will throw its attention and money on taking the Senate? Because that worries me.